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^^Punjab election drama. Typical AAP brand of tamasha.

Khalistani movement never died if one interacted even a little with sikhs in US/Canada/UK. All the kids who were being fed poison in the 90s/00s, finally grew up. Internet/forums/social media also made the reintroduction of the same poison back into India much easier.
Government is going to have to figure out their strategy sooner than later on dealing with new shahbeg singhs (I figured that is also part of the reason why they took back the laws because they got relayed, from the army leadership, a sense of the growing underlying resentment among the Sikh soldiers).

vmalik wrote:Khalistani movement never died if one interacted even a little with sikhs in US/Canada/UK. All the kids who were being fed poison in the 90s/00s, finally grew up. Internet/forums/social media also made the reintroduction of the same poison back into India much easier.
Government is going to have to figure out their strategy sooner than later on dealing with new shahbeg singhs (I figured that is also part of the reason why they took back the laws because they got relayed, from the army leadership, a sense of the growing underlying resentment among the Sikh soldiers).

If this is the case then the repeal of the laws will further embolden such sentiment. By telling these people that one more push and we will beat the Indian government.

Pratyush wrote:

vmalik wrote:Khalistani movement never died if one interacted even a little with sikhs in US/Canada/UK. All the kids who were being fed poison in the 90s/00s, finally grew up. Internet/forums/social media also made the reintroduction of the same poison back into India much easier.
Government is going to have to figure out their strategy sooner than later on dealing with new shahbeg singhs (I figured that is also part of the reason why they took back the laws because they got relayed, from the army leadership, a sense of the growing underlying resentment among the Sikh soldiers).

If this is the case then the repeal of the laws will further embolden such sentiment. By telling these people that one more push and we will beat the Indian government.

Kicking the can down the road... If there was a political handbook for democracy, I'm sure that move is probably among the first ones written.
It was pretty clear to me that Namo/Shah don't want to push Sikhs into a corner, when they allowed these goons to play Jat/Jutt unity card... No such unity exists. Amit Shah of 10 years ago could have defeated that card in a week (canal issue is the easiest. Then get Army to increase Jat quota so they don't have to pass themselves off as sikhs to get in. There is a long list).

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1472412760948412417

Section 144 imposed in Alappuzha district of Kerala: A Alexander, District Collector

BJP OBC Morcha State Secy Renjith Sreenivasan was allegedly killed in Alappuzha this morning. Y'day, KS Shan, State Secy, Social Democratic Party of India, was allegedly killed in district

Kerala CM Pinarayi Vijayan condemns the two alleged murders in Alappuzha: CMO

NSFW picture in the link below
BJP leader Ranjeet Sreenivas hacked to death in Alappuzha

The attackers barged into his house and hacked him. He was getting ready for his morning walk. He was killed on the spot. His body is currently at the general hospital. It will be brought to his house after the postmortem.

Something sinister is going on in Punjab. There was death due to sacrilege allegations in farmer's protest Now we have this in Golden Temple. In both the cases accused is not alive.

Why would someone jump to grab a sword while on darshan? It is very clear that he was quickly controlled. Yet he is dead.

What is clear that someone is promising something to young men and then making them do their bidding and also ensuring that they are killed; before they spill the beans. What is saving the day is the mobile video which is coming out quickly and not letting rumors spread.

The press as usual is adding spice (imaginary details) to the whole story, but mobile video is conveying the true picture.

Very sorry state of affairs of our society and country. Politicians have lost all the humanity and are luring unsuspecting men to their death.

While BJP leaders gets killed in kerela , commies businesses thrive in Bangalore. One notice from bbmp or health department will get all commie super markets closed but the impotency of the BJP is known to everyone. Once I become the leader, why care about the cadre?

SinghS wrote:Something sinister is going on in Punjab. There was death due to sacrilege allegations in farmer's protest Now we have this in Golden Temple. In both the cases accused is not alive.

Why would someone jump to grab a sword while on darshan? It is very clear that he was quickly controlled. Yet he is dead.

What is clear that someone is promising something to young men and then making them do their bidding and also ensuring that they are killed; before they spill the beans. What is saving the day is the mobile video which is coming out quickly and not letting rumors spread.

The press as usual is adding spice (imaginary details) to the whole story, but mobile video is conveying the true picture.

Very sorry state of affairs of our society and country. Politicians have lost all the humanity and are luring unsuspecting men to their death.

Who are the victims?

Maybe killing is just a bit much? Maybe it is an opportunity to be better than desert cults? Maybe there will be some soul searching in the dharma protectors? Maybe dharma pride can be shown in different ways other than killing? Maybe appreciating other faith restraints when worse sacrileges were committed? Maybe emotions are fanned for a specific reason to fill leadership vacuum?

It looks like it is a race to the bottom...I think there is a leadership vacuum in Tamilnadu and Punjab ( unlike WB, KL - where bad leaders are well positioned ) where more burning platforms will be created for new "leaders"

If there are any moderate sikhs left then they should be worried why there is even less condemnation about these barbaric lynching in their community then there is in Pakistan after a blasphemy accused gets killed. Even if its taqiyah one comes across atleast few muslims condemning on social media about killing in the name of blasphemy , but page after page on social media platforms has sikhs celebrating these killings as some sort of perverted victory. A community which falls so much that they are incapable of even introspection has a rough future.

Paper is worth more than a human life.


I must say I am developing new appreciation for Hindus’ forebear ance. There is nothing to emulate from recent actions of some panjabis.

vimal wrote:^^Punjab election drama. Typical AAP brand of tamasha.

election related- Yes. AAP drama-No. There is something more sinister. My early guess is that someone is trying to create a divide first, and a Vote bank from it that can be leveraged in the elections.

Many questions remain but lets wait for the section/Vote bank to emerge and see which party backs it to get the clear picture.

https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/stat ... 8699146243

Every single politician, from the INC to PLC to SAD to BJP to AAP has condemned the alleged desecration of Guru Granth Sahib but not spoken a word leave aside condemn, the horrific lynching that followed. This is how easily you normalise killing for blasphemy. Why blame Pakistan.

I think what is also being conveyed by the silence is that the more radicalized and extremist you are, the better terms you get from the state; and this fact becomes a lot truer if done close to elections.

m_saini wrote:https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/stat ... 8699146243

Every single politician, from the INC to PLC to SAD to BJP to AAP has condemned the alleged desecration of Guru Granth Sahib but not spoken a word leave aside condemn, the horrific lynching that followed. This is how easily you normalise killing for blasphemy. Why blame Pakistan.

I think what is also being conveyed by the silence is that the more radicalized and extremist you are, the better terms you get from the state; and this fact becomes a lot truer if done close to elections.

And they wouldn't be wrong in that assumption. As we saw with the recent anti-farm bill riots and the subsequent reversal of the laws, if you can monopolize violence and intimidation then you control the narrative and momentum.

the problem is now every 'minority' even caste based might get a template of how to get their demands met ... and our Police well God knows what era they live in... when it comes to Hindus they are distinctly in the Colonial era and when it comes to the rest they are like UN troops.
All these K*stanis if they have so much hot blood should be asked to cross over and get Lahore - even at least K****rpur - looks like some medieval bloodlust is on them they have got used to easy life in peaceful India. Rather action on the outside than inside, all pissful countries have known about that for ages

S_Madhukar wrote:the problem is now every 'minority' even caste based might get a template of how to get their demands met ... and our Police well God knows what era they live in... when it comes to Hindus they are distinctly in the Colonial era and when it comes to the rest they are like UN troops.
All these K*stanis if they have so much hot blood should be asked to cross over and get Lahore - even at least K****rpur - looks like some medieval bloodlust is on them they have got used to easy life in peaceful India. Rather action on the outside than inside, all pissful countries have known about that for ages

law and order is a state subject until it's not.

this is still about the elections, first UP and then punjab.

they are looking for a way to get back to the dilli borders once again, well in time to set up before the elections.

any action of the GoI before the elections will have a blowback.

possibly, the UP elections can be preponed by a bit but the one in punjab cannot because the congis control that state.

this is a well oiled machinery that is operating from offshore safe havens and funneling in money via hawala and the BIF are gaming the play dynamically

the isi is a major player because it is also a major beneficiary and the congis are entirely complicit in this

m_saini wrote:https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/stat ... 8699146243

Every single politician, from the INC to PLC to SAD to BJP to AAP has condemned the alleged desecration of Guru Granth Sahib but not spoken a word leave aside condemn, the horrific lynching that followed. This is how easily you normalise killing for blasphemy. Why blame Pakistan.

I think what is also being conveyed by the silence is that the more radicalized and extremist you are, the better terms you get from the state; and this fact becomes a lot truer if done close to elections.

Using Ppapuji’s analogy for Hindus and Hindutva should they be termed Khalistani and not Sikh

What I am posting is not true political news however it is true history which happned in Kashmiri and is still happening

I was lucky to see the pre-release of the movie THE KASHMIR FILES. It was the best factoid movie from India I have ever seen, It is gut wrenching to see as to what happened to the Kashmiri Pandits. If you get a chance please see the movie, I do not know if it will be shown in India in its original format censors might play havoc. The movie is based on true incidents, the data on the incidents was collected over a period of four years.

Met the director Vivek Ranjan Agnihotriand and the heroine of the movie at the showing, he is truly inspiring and brave man. Vivek Ranjan jee exposed the true colors of Islamic terrorism and the Left leaning ideology off JUN and its impact on students (brain washing) all names were changed because of legal implications. Now there are fatwas against Vivek Ranjan Jee

The film documents the genocide and the exodus of over 500,000 Kashmiri Hindus in some great detail. It also depicts the barbarism and gore of the terrorist violence perpetrated on the Kashmiri Hindus.

The killing of Krishna’s father, one of the most gut-wrenching scenes of the film, is based on the true story of a young engineer named B.K. Ganjoo. When the terrorists attacked his house in Kashmir, Ganjoo hid in a rice container in the attic. Ganjoo’s neighbour and a long-time friend told the terrorists about it. The terrorists killed Ganjoo and forced his wife to eat his blood-soaked rice in front of the rest of the family, including her two young children.

The terrorists gave Kashmiri Hindus three choices—Raliv (convert to Islam), Galiv (die), or Chaliv (flee). The “Raliv, Galiv ya Chaliv” threats were announced frequently from local mosque loudspeakers. Many had this threat posted on their house doors and walls. The film shows the plight of Kashmiri Hindus who were forced to live in tents as immigrants in their own country while the rest of India remained utterly oblivious.

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who gains from chaos in Punjab or Hindu vs Sikh in election?
-congress is incumbent and seen as weak cos they can't control riots / chaos , loses .
-BJP is out of race and any nuisance can pan out as national security so it is unlikely to do it
-AAP will gain! They support Khalistanis and with Sikhs drifting towards them they are net gainer.

In all likelihood this has AAP written all over, however centre with intel security at disposal should have inkling of it.

While it may well be some khalikhopdi or AAP elements fermenting trouble ,its not like there hasn't been blasphemy based lynching before in PJ. Its just that these barbaric deeds get more air now thanks to whatsapp and social media platforms. I am curious to see how this plays out in future when a significant number of sikhs convert to Christianity, will there be a holy war between the two factions ? For all the (deserved) flak peaceful "liberals" get for not speaking up against radicalization of their community and hate mongering mullahs, the sikh intellectuals and liberals are guilty of exactly the same.

I no longer subscribe to this idea that Akalis and others are some secular gang and do not support khalis. If anything Akalis are overground khalis now.

One main aspect that's overlooked for a long time is letting the Sikh Holy places to be in Pakistan. This over decades created a mindset in Sikhs having to look across the border and some elements within India utilizing it for political gains. Not to speak of the propaganda from Pakistan and West. Going forward we have to resolve it for long term stability as and when PoK retake happens or otherwise.

rajkumar wrote:

SBajwa wrote:Why can't the judges be elected in India by people like MPs and MLA's along with district attorney, etc

Trust me you don't want to go their. It will bring nothing but ruin, just go and look at US states which have elected judges.

Agree. This happens when the political system becomes corrupt, the Judiciary will go corrupt with it. So at times such corrupt ones will rule before getting removed by people and until removed even judiciary will come under them and cause damage. It can't be the current system as well. Must be a transparent process based on All India exams as suggest by the President.

The current lynchings will be utilized to target Sikhism as bad bad. Already articles are appearing in Western press with that intention. The same way HIndu's were targeted earlier until they united. First thing that they did was to create lynching that will remove Hindu support to the Sikhs. You must have noticed that the Hindu response to this lynching was on similar lines to the earlier one. So once the Hindu support to Sikhs are removed, it's easier to target the Sikh community. Hope the Sikh community is able to see through it. Once the upcoming elections are won, the conversion business will go full swing. It will not take much time after that to create a situation like that's happening in Somalia-Tigray.

It is amazing that Sikhs have so much contempt for Hindus but they don't mind thousands of Sikhs converting to Christianity. Sikhism is a dying faith. Outlook did a cover story on the same about 10 years back. New generation doesn't want to keep a turban. Also, there is an undercurrent of lumpenization and violence in the community, and bullying of Hindus. Church will be hugely successful in such a decaying society.

sanjayc wrote:It is amazing that Sikhs have so much contempt for Hindus but they don't mind thousands of Sikhs converting to Christianity. Sikhism is a dying faith. Outlook did a cover story on the same about 10 years back. New generation doesn't want to keep a turban. Also, there is an undercurrent of lumpenization and violence in the community, and bullying of Hindus. Church will be hugely successful in such a decaying society.

there is a reason that the archbishop of canterbury came to punjab and prostrated at the jalianwalla site to say "sorry" whereas, in actual fact the queen and her govt ignored the event, possibly because of liability and reparation issues.

Despite best efforts made quietly by the britshit establishment, the GoI ignored both the archbishop of canterbury and meaningless the event itself


The archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, lies on the ground at the Jallianwala Bagh memorial

“I cannot speak for the British government … but I can speak in the name of Christ and say this is a place of both sin and redemption, because you have remembered what they have done and their names will live, their memory will live before God. And I am so ashamed and sorry for the impact of this crime committed here.”



Amritsar, 100 years on, remains an atrocity Britain cannot be allowed to forget

Amritsar, 100 years on, remains an atrocity Britain cannot be allowed to forget


Mihir Bose
Tue 10 Sep 2019

“I cannot speak for the British government … but I can speak in the name of Christ and say this is a place of both sin and redemption, because you have remembered what they have done and their names will live, their memory will live before God. And I am so ashamed and sorry for the impact of this crime committed here.”

Hindus, Christians, Muslims and Sikhs were killed in April 1919 when they gathered in Amritsar, in Punjab, then part of British India. They were protesting peacefully after earlier riots over the arrest of pro-independence leaders.


Under the orders of Brig Gen Reginald Dyer, an Anglican, British troops opened fire. According to official figures, 379 people were killed and about 1,200 wounded, though other estimates suggested much higher casualties.

Winston Churchill condemned the massacre in the House of Commons, saying it was “an extraordinary event, a monstrous event, an event which stands in singular and sinister isolation”.

In 2013, David Cameron became the first serving prime minister to visit the site of the killings, bowing his head in honour of the victims. The episode was “deeply shameful” and should never be forgotten, he said, but he stopped short of apologising.

This year Theresa May called the killings a “shameful scar” in British-Indian history but also stopped short of formally apologising.

Writing on Facebook during a trip to Sri Lanka and India, Welby said visiting the memorial had aroused “a sense of profound shame at what happened in this place. It is one of a number of deep stains on British history.”

He added: “Learning of what happened, I recognise the sins of my British colonial history, the ideology that too often subjugated and dehumanised other races and cultures … We have a great responsibility to not just lament this horrific massacre but most importantly to learn from it in a way that changes our actions.”

responsibility how,................

by continuing to convert using fraudulent and duplicitous means

Bill to raise women's marriage age in House this week, govt may agree to scrutiny
Don't know if this is again a "one step forward, two steps backward" kind of move. Or is it that there is serious outcry from all parties, including Hindu community groups?

kvraghav wrote:While BJP leaders gets killed in kerela , commies businesses thrive in Bangalore. One notice from bbmp or health department will get all commie super markets closed but the impotency of the BJP is known to everyone.

Please also understand that RSS in KL also has the capability to murder their political rivals. Two months back, an RSS activist was killed in Palakkad by PFI/SDPI gang, and two days back an SDPI cadre was hacked to death. Now SDPI has murdered an RSS activist as well. The murder competition which was once between CPI(M) & BJP/RSS is now become SDPI/PFI & BJP/RSS. The commies have become eunuchs so much so that they are a B party of the various Muslim outfits (terror & non-terror). The Muslim outfits have the money & vote power to make the commies crawl at their feets, which also means police investigations and successful prosecution will not happen in cases where RSS/BJP cadre are victims.

BTW, how can you identify commie owned businesses in Bangalore and selectively shut them down? There are many businesses run by Keralites in Bangalore, but from what I know of them there are also BJP/RSS sympathisers out there. It is only the various "marts", "supermarkets" which are a monopoly of Muslims (Bairy community again from North Kerala districts or Mangalore side). They too generally get support of the local "secular" politician.

SinghS wrote:Why would someone jump to grab a sword while on darshan? It is very clear that he was quickly controlled. Yet he is dead.

My understanding is that there are three lynchings which have got Sikh 'fundamentalists' as the murderers. One was at the Farmer-terrorist camp site, second one is at Golden Temple, and there was also another one else where in Punjab. What is the religious identity of the victims?. Did not see that part getting mentioned. Were the dead people Hindus? If yes, is it this a deliberate plan to cause a Sikh v/s Hindu fight? If any one who makes regular visits to Gurudwaras other than Sikhs it could be Hindus.

https://theprint.in/india/how-christian ... es/775047/
Christianty on rise in Punjab, over 10% population overtly Christian now, mirroring TN of 90s. Small churches atop roof of small houses seen all over Punjab.

Sachin wrote: BTW, how can you identify commie owned businesses in Bangalore and selectively shut them down? There are many businesses run by Keralites in Bangalore, but from what I know of them there are also BJP/RSS sympathisers out there. It is only the various "marts", "supermarkets" which are a monopoly of Muslims (Bairy community again from North Kerala districts or Mangalore side). They too generally get support of the local "secular" politician.

Builder, jewellery and Super store are all commie backed. Example is Shobha and Lulu who are partners with DKS. Joyalukkas and Josalukkas also the same. Entire super market is peacefuls and i am sure they are commies. The BJP/RSS guys are mostly hard working non business people. You can easily target commies if needed, they are mostly into shady business. Comrade son was caught in smuggling and drug and is smug in Bangalore jail, remember? Heck even Karunanidhis daughters homes are here and all it takes is a violation notice from local BBMP guy. Congress played this with Jagan remember? One notice from BBMP on his palatial properties in Bangalore but he was lucky that Yeddi came along by then.

kvraghav wrote:Builder, jewellery and Super store are all commie backed. Example is Shobha and Lulu who are partners with DKS.

The fact that they are close to "secular" politicians means that any move to target them will not be very easy? Remember folks like DKS etc are not push overs.

Comrade son was caught in smuggling and drug and is smug in Bangalore jail, remember?

Comrade's son is now out on bail. And guess what he does now; he has become an advocate . And all said and done, do not know if the BJP folks did arm twist the comrade to get things done. Today political killings in Kerala are mainly between peacefools and RSS/BJP. Commies and RSS/BJP have a truce. The commies in Kerala work with islamists mainly because their (Gulf-hawala) money and the muscle and vote bank power. The Hindu comrades are now like the eunuchs who 'managed' the harems of Moguls.

uddu wrote:The current lynchings will be utilized to target Sikhism as bad bad. Already articles are appearing in Western press with that intention. The same way HIndu's were targeted earlier until they united. First thing that they did was to create lynching that will remove Hindu support to the Sikhs. You must have noticed that the Hindu response to this lynching was on similar lines to the earlier one. So once the Hindu support to Sikhs are removed, it's easier to target the Sikh community. Hope the Sikh community is able to see through it. Once the upcoming elections are won, the conversion business will go full swing. It will not take much time after that to create a situation like that's happening in Somalia-Tigray.

Why are we looking for such grand conspiracies when the community in question hasn't uttered a word against the lynching ? Half of them are celebrating lynchings of hapless poor people as some sort of a victory and the other half are putting together bizarre justifications as to why beabadi deserves death as a just punishment.

To me it seems that these lynching victims of excited hyper religious Sikhs were mentally ill.

Is this what Sikhs are taught? Ripping out paper means death?

Sikhs have become what they were not supposed to be, I guess chicken coming home to roost!

Ambar wrote:

uddu wrote:The current lynchings will be utilized to target Sikhism as bad bad. Already articles are appearing in Western press with that intention. The same way HIndu's were targeted earlier until they united. First thing that they did was to create lynching that will remove Hindu support to the Sikhs. You must have noticed that the Hindu response to this lynching was on similar lines to the earlier one. So once the Hindu support to Sikhs are removed, it's easier to target the Sikh community. Hope the Sikh community is able to see through it. Once the upcoming elections are won, the conversion business will go full swing. It will not take much time after that to create a situation like that's happening in Somalia-Tigray.

Why are we looking for such grand conspiracies when the community in question hasn't uttered a word against the lynching ? Half of them are celebrating lynchings of hapless poor people as some sort of a victory and the other half are putting together bizarre justifications as to why beabadi deserves death as a just punishment.

have the victims of the lynchings been identified yet..................

why the delay in doing so....

these days, all it takes is a fingerprint scan run through the AADHAR database onlee.

This is what the strong influence of religion on politics does to democracy, making it almost a theocracy in some parts of the country

Nobody can defend sacrilege but how can a man be lynched inside a religious place

are we really sickular or just pretending to be onlee

sanjayc wrote:It is amazing that Sikhs have so much contempt for Hindus but they don't mind thousands of Sikhs converting to Christianity. Sikhism is a dying faith. Outlook did a cover story on the same about 10 years back. New generation doesn't want to keep a turban. Also, there is an undercurrent of lumpenization and violence in the community, and bullying of Hindus. Church will be hugely successful in such a decaying society.

I think you are right.
My view is that 75-100 years Sikhism will be dead, a small following maybe, but practically dead.

The caste divide has destroyed it, political leaders are of such low quality, they just don't care.

I have listened to so called Jat Sikhs, saying with a straight face, "we are not a caste, we are a separate race"

Ambar wrote:

uddu wrote:The current lynchings will be utilized to target Sikhism as bad bad. Already articles are appearing in Western press with that intention. The same way HIndu's were targeted earlier until they united. First thing that they did was to create lynching that will remove Hindu support to the Sikhs. You must have noticed that the Hindu response to this lynching was on similar lines to the earlier one. So once the Hindu support to Sikhs are removed, it's easier to target the Sikh community. Hope the Sikh community is able to see through it. Once the upcoming elections are won, the conversion business will go full swing. It will not take much time after that to create a situation like that's happening in Somalia-Tigray.

Why are we looking for such grand conspiracies when the community in question hasn't uttered a word against the lynching ? Half of them are celebrating lynchings of hapless poor people as some sort of a victory and the other half are putting together bizarre justifications as to why beabadi deserves death as a just punishment.

And this is the saddest part, the silence and justification of it.
I went to school in Southall and I tell you, people I used to know and think were quite liberal are justifying it. I don't know if they are doing so because they want to appear religious. But it is sickening.

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8 years our economy was in fragile 5 group now it's in BAA3 .

8 years ago in ease of doing business we were at 160 rank now one of the top performer it's 77.

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8 Years ago, it was a distant dream to hear from any Neta, now they respond to tweets and FB post

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Pratyush wrote:

vmalik wrote:Khalistani movement never died if one interacted even a little with sikhs in US/Canada/UK. All the kids who were being fed poison in the 90s/00s, finally grew up. Internet/forums/social media also made the reintroduction of the same poison back into India much easier.
Government is going to have to figure out their strategy sooner than later on dealing with new shahbeg singhs (I figured that is also part of the reason why they took back the laws because they got relayed, from the army leadership, a sense of the growing underlying resentment among the Sikh soldiers).

If this is the case then the repeal of the laws will further embolden such sentiment. By telling these people that one more push and we will beat the Indian government.

Agree with you about Gen 2 Khalistani movement in US & Canada. I have seen Khalistani emblem in vehicles of young Sikh uber drivers in Bay area and Seattle. It's a dangerous situation.

Hopefully GoI's retreat on the farm bill is a strategic retreat to buy time and figure out the next move, and not just a panicked surrender. They have to be very smart politically to get India safely past this danger.

SinghS wrote:Something sinister is going on in Punjab. There was death due to sacrilege allegations in farmer's protest Now we have this in Golden Temple. In both the cases accused is not alive.

Why would someone jump to grab a sword while on darshan? It is very clear that he was quickly controlled. Yet he is dead.

What is clear that someone is promising something to young men and then making them do their bidding and also ensuring that they are killed; before they spill the beans. What is saving the day is the mobile video which is coming out quickly and not letting rumors spread.

The press as usual is adding spice (imaginary details) to the whole story, but mobile video is conveying the true picture.

Very sorry state of affairs of our society and country. Politicians have lost all the humanity and are luring unsuspecting men to their death.

Are drugs a possible factor?

Yagnasri wrote:I no longer subscribe to this idea that Akalis and others are some secular gang and do not support khalis. If anything Akalis are overground khalis now.

You are probably aware that as far back as early post-independence days, there was a strong streak of identitarianism and separatism among of Akalis (mods: I am not tagging all Sikhs, or even all Akalis, just reviewing some history). The Punjabi Suba movement explicitly divided Sikhs from Hindus, Punjabi language from Hindi. Though it may not have ever gone as far as openly demanding a separate country, the implied threat was there, and ended up with creation of separate Punjab and Haryana states.

In the '80s Indira Gandhi wanted Congress to wrest control of Punjab politics away from Akalis, and for this purpose promoted Bhindranwale to undermine the Akalis by being even more extreme than them. (her idea was, first let us weaken the Akalis, Congress can then take over and deal with Bhindranwale, who is a small guy after all. Sort of like Chanakya promoting Parvata Raja against the Nandas, except Indira was no Chanakya). We know the rest of the story.

(This is an old Congress Party / Nehru family game. If you look at the district-level politics of united Andhra Pradesh in the late 20th century, you will see the same pattern: party high command will promote a worse factionist to beat an existing factionist belonging to the rival party, and then the worse factionist gets smart enough to realize that he doesn't need to be a servant of the party high command, and ends up making demands and becoming a minister himself (That is how YSR became CM.) The formula was the same in Hyderabad old City with engineered communal riots, till today we ended up with Owaisi brothers as uncrowned kings of huge parts of Hyderabad, and key power players.)