Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2010

[SSridhar]

^Saar, agreement in 1893, not 1993...

Bhairav, I thought I said the treaty lapsed in 1993.

[SSridhar]

The US came close to sending its Special Forces twice into TSP: Bush

U.S. came on the verge of marching its special forces into Pakistan to smash Taliban and Al-Qaeda safe havens twice, post 9/11 and then again in mid-2008, but the country's rulers each time thwarted the attempt, said Mr. Bush.

The former military dictator General Pervez Musharraf had frustrated him from the move by conjuring up a spectre of a revolt in Pakistan and the possibility of militants taking over the reins of power and the country's nuclear arsenal, {putting guns at others' head(s) by putting gun to its own head} he said.

And then in 2008 he himself changed his mind and instead ordered deployment of drones. {So, Musharraf himself wanted the drones to be employed. What happened to sovereignty etc ? The Pakistani governments, both military and civilian, as well as the military have taken their people for a royal ride all these years.}

Breaking his silence on the tumultuous days after the dreadful 9/11 terror attacks on the U.S., Mr. Bush said General Musharraf and Pakistani Generals had always sought to misled him by saying it was Indians who were influencing Americans against Pakistan.

He says post 9/11 some in the Pakistan intelligence services maintained relationship with the Taliban and provided them safe havens. {Those 'some' could not have done all that without the ISI Chief and Gen. Musharraf wholeheartedly supporting that. In fact, it was their policy that these 'some' implemented. The US and Bush are again unwilling to say that openly.} “In almost every conversation we had, Musharraf accused India of wrongdoing. Four days after 9 /11, he told me that Indians were trying to equate us with terrorists and trying to influence your mind. {The US should have had tons of proof for the PA's nexus with the terrorist groups. Why didn't Bush confront Musharraf then and there ? In the immediate aftermath of 9/11, that would have sent a very strong message to the Pakistanis} As a result, the Pakistani military spent most of its resources preparing war with India,” he wrote. “A related problem was that Pakistani forces pursued the Taliban much aggressively, than they pursued Al-Qaeda.”

[A_Gupta]

Dronacharyas as angels:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melissa-r ... 81289.html

Difficult as it may be for the pro-chaos isolationists to believe, civilian sources from within the Khyber Pakhtunkwa have stated that locals call the Predator drones operated by the CIA "angels," because of the relief they provide in delivering communities from Taliban oppression. The Amnesty report also clearly shows that the drones are causing a tiny fraction of the damage being inflicted on the people of northwest Pakistan by the Taliban and its allies.

[KLNMurthy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ehsan-aza ... 79296.html

Pakistan has nuclear weapons to hedge against India, but the demise of Islamic militancy, which will spark Pashtun nationalism, could bring a real doomsday to Pakistan[/color]. This is Pakistan's empty nest syndrome.

Guys, explain this to me. Without TSP-sponsoreed LET Islamic militancy (terrorism) harassing India over imaginary and concocted grievances, TSP has no leverage, none at all over India. But why would absence of TSP-sponsored Taliban Islamic militancy spark Pashtun nationalism? Or put another way, why is Pashtin nationalism absent just because currently TSP-sponsored Taliban Islamic militancy rules the roost? Why are the 2 mutually exclusive?

Pashtuns have a credible liberal nationalist meme from late Frontier Gandhi and his descendants, in addition to the taliban meme. Awami national party in power in NWFP (now called khyber-pakhtoonkhwa) is relatively liberal and left-wing. Balochis also have this meme. These memes are suppressed now due to Taliban backed by Pakjabi army. If that force is removed, the liberal nationalist memes will have room to assert themselves.

[KLNMurthy]

[ISLAMABAD, Nov 9: Shocked by the US support for India’s bid for a permanent seat in the United Nations’ Security Council (UNSC), Pakistan has conveyed its disappointment to the American ambassador here and told him the move could have serious repercussions for the conflict-ridden region and reform of the world body.

There is something artificial about this

They were briefed before the visit about this probably

you mean like the drone attacks and the public nautanki about "violation of soverignty " ?

We should make a list of some of the common "design patterns" used by TSP. Map out their playbook in other words.

[KLNMurthy]

...


² That really is the empty-nest theory. This is what a perceptive Winston Churchill wrote: “A Pashtun is at peace when he is at war. Tribe wars with tribe. The people of one valley fight with those of the next. To the quarrels of communities are added the combats of individuals. Khan assails Khan, each supported by his retainers. Every tribesman has a blood feud with his neighbor. Every man's hand is against the other, and all against the stranger. “ The Pakistanis therefore want to keep them engaged so that they won't rake up inconvenient issues. Make no mistake. The Pashtunistan issue can unravel Pakistan very, very quickly than all the other issues put together. Remember that the Deobandi organizations such as JUI or Mawdudi's JI passed into Pashtun hands a long time back.

³ The two are not mutually exclusive. One simply has priority over the other due to exigencies of events and Pakistni elites want to keep it this way because it masks Pashtun nationalism.

Churchill, for all his intellect, was a diehard racist and stereotyper. We shouldn't ignore his observations but should filter them through what we know of him and his times. Ultimately we should form our own profiles of various groups like Pashtuns. Here are a couple of aspects of Pashtuns that make me think that reality is more complex than Churchill's simplistic model:

1. Pashtuns were also empire builders--e.g., Sher Shah Suri, Grand Trunk Road, foundations of modern revenue system etc.

2. Pashtuns (as I mentioned in a different post) also exhibited what I call moral curiosity (how to build a moral and just society based on religious principles interpreted in liberal fashion), see Khan Abdul Ghafar Khan's efforts and their continuation by his son & grandson.

3. Pashtuns may be warlike but they also apparently cherished the periods of stability & development, earlier under Ahmed Shah Abdali and more recently under Zahir Shah.

Pashtuns have every right to want to reunite their homeland by erasing the Durand line and I think once they have done that they will move towards a stable and relatively progressive regime.

[Joseph]

They simply want Pashtun lands on the Pakistani side to integrate naturally with Afghanistan. As we all know, Afghanistan was the only country that opposed UN membership of Pakistan. Roughly 30% of the PA is Pashtun. The heaviest concentration of Pashtuns is in Karachi. Quetta is under Pashtun control. There have been frequent skirmishes along the Af-Pak border before 1979.

...So, the Pashtunistan time-bomb is ticking and will not go away. Besides, there is no warmth for Pakistanis in Afghan hearts because of history.

...Make no mistake. The Pashtunistan issue can unravel Pakistan very, very quickly than all the other issues put together. Remember that the Deobandi organizations such as JUI or Mawdudi's JI passed into Pashtun hands a long time back.

What do the scenarios look like for the PA and Karachi if the Pashtunistan issue becomes dominant?

Would the Pashtuns in Karachi be sympathetic to Pashtunistan and be disruptive to the transportation sector that they are a key part of?

[ajit_tr]

My political victimisation

My official residence at Parliament Lodges in Islamabad has been sealed off for the past three days. I have no access to my personal belongings or official papers and am unable to serve my people effectively as an MNA.
Who is behind this? Two senators from Balochistan who have no respect for rule of law or for women

[VikramS]

This post is not exactly on topic, but relevant.

Of late I have noticed that the TSP thread continues to slip down the list of active threads. The BENIS thread seems to be higher up most of the time. Though I do not like searching for it, I feel good that on BRF we are thinking beyond TSP and pakistaniyat; except when looking for humor.

Hopefully not in a distant future, this thread may actually end up on Page 2-3; and become as irrelevant as TSP should, and hopefully will, be.

[Prem]

Message for PoakPashus!!
Wen Jiabao is visiting India in Dec and has selceted highly symbolic date of Dec16 to land in India to cut off symbiotic cord with Poak . Onlee thing to discuss is the numbers of slices of Pizza-E-Poak to be carved and shared.

[Mahendra]

The Chinese didn't come in 71 but arrived exactly 40 years later

[Rupesh]

NEW YORK: Former President Pervez Musharraf has said missile tests of Ghauri I and Ghauri II failed and Dr. Qadeer Khan is well aware of all this, Geo News reported.

He said those goods, which Dr. Qadeer would import or export, would be exempted from checking at customs therefore none dared to touch them. Only Dr. Qadeer Khan is responsible for nuclear proliferation.

Supporting his decision to place precincts upon AQ Khan, Musharraf said he provided protection to Dr Qadeer Khan by means of putting ban on him as foreign forces were becoming mad to take him from Pakistan.

To a question, Musharraf said Dr. Qadeer Khan was an expert at Metallurgy science and did some work in nuclear enrichment whereas other scientists played major role in making Pakistan nuclear power but only considering him being hero, is injustice to other scientists.

Admitting that a letter he received from former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, he said BB wrote me a letter, carrying three names whom she thought would attack on her, but I believe that Baitullah Mehsood assassinated her.

Those three persons, indicated in her letter, were Pervez Ilahi, Brig (Retd.) Ijaz Shah (SS.. who are these guys )and General (retd.) Hameed Gul, he said.

link

[Cosmo_R]

As said before, the BSF needs (or already has) some pot-bellied pandus to shut the gate at the end of the day who chews paan and farts/belches on cue as the Pakis lower their flag.

Better yet, televise a daily global Wagah Idol booty shaking Bollywood dance contest. Remember gora chix doing that a while back? Well, enterprising Bollywood 'producers' can get free content for all the 100s of TV channels that have little to offer. There are 197 countries (plus Pakistan) whose boyz and girls would love to be on TV....

It would be a very Chaplinesque move.

[Charlie]

It was February 2004 and Chandar D. Sahay, then India’s top intelligence official, had just received intercepted cables sent by Pakistan-based jihadists planning a third attempt on General Pervez Musharraf’s life. Without hesitation and with his prime minister’s blessings, Mr Sahay sent the intercepts and other crucial information to General Ehsan ul-Haq, Pakistan’s intelligence chief. The assassins made their attempt. Their bid was foiled.

Such was the value placed by India on the life of the Pakistani leader that decades of distrust were set aside in that moment. Mr Sahay understood that Pakistan’s extremists had become an uncontrollable force, unmanageable by even their own creators inside Pakistan’s army and intelligence machinery. The terrorists, he reasoned, were now everyone’s problem and only joint action would get them under control.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/89759e30-eb6f ... z14vOGyIvM

[ramana]

It was the very same ISI that plotted Mrs Gandhi's killing in 1984 by Sikh extremists.

[jrjrao]

Here is proof once again of BRF's greatest contribution to the Angrezi lexicon, which is the forever living word-- "musharraf".

Speaking from his musharraf, is the clown himself, talking yesterday to the Council of Foreign Relations in NY:

...as far as India is concerned, India is trying to create -- I mean, if I'm allowed to be very, very frank, India's role in Afghanistan is to create an anti-Pakistan Afghanistan. That is very clear to me. Their consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad our actually involved in creating trouble in Pakistan. They've had no other role.

There is no need of consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad. Why shouldn't the consulate be somewhere in the north, facing Uzbekistan or Takijistan? This is just -- their intention is quite -- very clear.

And we know that -- (our ?) terrorist, Pakistan terrorist, sitting in Kabul, goes to India, he is received there by intelligence agents. And I am not saying something which I don't know. I know it. I've seen photographs of it.

So therefore, I think there is a -- Pakistan is being wronged by India...

Then, Lawrence Wright of the New Yorker asks this question:
"Sixty-three years ago, India and Pakistan were one country, and now they're two and have both gone through very difficult periods of time. But now India seems to be a rising nation, the possibility of being on the Security Council.
In terms that you just used to describe Pakistan -- failed state, bankrupt state -- what accounts for the difference in the development of those two countries, in your opinion? What is -- what are the factors that separate success from failure?"

Here is the noisy musharraf, in response:

(In my nine years at the helm) we were declared one of the 11 -- next 11 countries of the world -- economically vibrant, next 11 countries of the world.
Our GDP growth was between 7 (percent) and 8 percent. In 2006, it was 8.4 percent. Our GDP grew from $63 billion to $170 billion. Our exports went from $7.8 billion to $18-1/2 billion. Our GDP went from $63 billion to $170 billion. The per capita income went from $430 to $1,000. Maybe it is higher than India today -- even today. So with this (view ?) of indicators, our FDI rose from $400 million to $8.4 billion.

So what I am trying to say is Pakistan has all the potential, sir, maybe -- maybe -- potential of faster growth than India.

QUESTIONER: And the -- and the factors that are holding it back are what?

MUSH:....et me -- I didn't want to come -- now, I don't believe in being too India-centric. I know Pakistan can deliver, irrespective of what India is doing. I don't know, I mean, we are in the world very fond of comparing India is the biggest democracy, biggest secular democracy in the world. Well, they killed 3,000 of Muslims in Gujarat. Nobody said anything. So therefore, this is the projection that is given. They are projected with China. I don't think there is any comparison between rise of China and India. China is a country where 500 million people have been drawn out of poverty. Has India done that? No, not at all. There is stark poverty in India -- stark poverty. People sleep and people are born and die on the footpaths.

But in Pakistan, that doesn't happen, sir. Nobody is that hungry.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/23355/co ... arraf.html

[CRamS]

jrjrao

And this terrorist is embraced by the morons in India at Hindustan Times Summit, India Today summit etc.

I saw an ad last night on Faux nooge that gola will be on, I think at 10 PM or thereabouts. Now that my man Keith Olberman is back on MSNBC and here to stay on the 8 PM slot, hopefully I don't have to choose the terrorist over him .

[Brad Goodman]

Musharraf: No rush against anti-India militants

WASHINGTON — Pakistan's former leader Pervez Musharraf called Wednesday for a more gradual approach against Islamic militants such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, saying they enjoyed sympathy for fighting India.

Musharraf acknowledged that Lashkar-e-Taiba and like-minded groups such as Jaish-e-Mohammad were "involved in terrorism in Pakistan" but said they have been "very popular" for fighting Indian rule in divided Kashmir.

"Since they were going to Kashmir and fighting the Indian army, it went along with the psyche of the people of Pakistan -- with everyone," Musharraf said.

[SureshP]

More Flickering tubelights

SECOND EDITORIAL: Abandoning project jihad

According to a report by the BBC, the Pakistani state is allegedly still involved in the training and funding of militants in Kashmir. Not that this allegation is new, but it has managed to stir up some vehement denials by the government. The foreign ministry terms the report “baseless” and “malicious”. The report claims that the radicalisation of militants to fight in Kashmir and the arms and money being funnelled to them for their Kashmir jihad are being supplied by the country’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI). Some Kashmiri fighters claim this ISI intervention has had the effect over the years of changing this largest regional nationalist cause into a religious one. Others claim the ISI is saving these militants for a rainy day so that they may be used as bargaining chips in any negotiations with India while keeping India tied up in conflict.

To gain strategic depth in Afghanistan, the Pakistani establishment has been nurturing the Afghan faction of the Taliban militants, much like this report suggests it has been doing for the Kashmiri militants. Pakistan has been saving the Afghan Taliban as a trump card for a centre-stage seat in Afghanistan after the US/Nato troops withdrawal. Such allegations are hardly a secret by now for the country, the region and the world at large. Therefore, whilst the BBC report is old news, it has ignited some fresh thought and recommendations on the topic.

The intelligence establishment has to learn to prioritise and put the country first. Enough of dual policies, war games and the sponsoring of militants which, although the government is denying, it seems at the very least to be tolerating. The Pakistani militants we were using for Afghanistan have turned on the state and engulfed it in the flames of terrorism. This report, if true, confirms that we have not learnt from past mistakes and could suffer similar consequences if and when these insurgents decide to turn on Pakistan as well.

Pakistan is in a state of increasing state failure. No institution seems salvageable and we are having trouble managing what little resources we have. To stake everything on a claim on Kashmir when we are hard put to it to manage our domestic affairs is increasingly too high risk to be continued with equanimity. India is progressing globally at breakneck speed and could eventually trigger an internal collapse in this country without firing a single shot, a la the Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War. We must abandon this militant adventurism we have embarked upon on many fronts and work hard on the process of dialogue leading to regional peace. *

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg3_1

[Prem]

Any Poakological Analysis

[Prem]

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... n-Pakistan[/b]
Shireen M Mazari

Of course, everyone is trying to explain how it is the Indian economy and its vast market that has
pushed the US into the Hindutva lap, but that is only part of the picture. True the Indian market is
vast and orders placed for US goods will help the presently-strapped US economy, especially in
terms of saving jobs and so on – especially in the strategic arms and dual-use technology
sectors, including the nuclear industry. In fact, India and the US have been signing vast arms
deals since the 2000 Vision Document signed between Clinton and the Indians which formalised
what was already an evolving strategic relationship
One drone brought down by the PAF, which has claimed it has the technical capability, will send the correct message to the US also. As for the economy, if our IMF surrogates were shown the door and more focus was put on collecting taxes from those who should be paying rather than on simply breaking the back of the masses by constantly increasing indirect taxation, and corruption was truly rooted out with the big fish being netted first, there could be an economic turnaround. But for that an honest and dedicated leadership is required and that is invisible.Unfortunately, until we the nation can truly reject our traditional leaders, we will always be exposed to the murderous designs of the US. This is what lies at the heart of our problem with
the US. That is why the US will continue to give nuclear aid and support the Indian bid for the
UNSC, while raining down drone missiles and covering each dollar that may reluctantly have to
come our way with criticism and abuse!

[Prem]

http://public.dawn.com/2010/11/10/obama ... lysts.html

Just weeks after Pakistan’s latest round of “strategic dialogue” with the US in a bid to overcome mistrust, the warm embrace between Obama and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh stood in stark contrast.
“Pakistanis have to be more realistic on understanding India’s growing international role,” political analyst Hasan Askari told AFP.“India is investing in the United States while our economy is in bad shape. There is no Pakistani investment in the West, very little in the Middle East. We ask for money from the United States, while India does not.”Indian deals will funnel 10 billion dollars into the US economy, while under a US Congress bill American taxpayers fork out 1.5 billion a year for development in Pakistan with promises of another two billion dollars in military assistance.While Obama’s visit reflects the shift in power to emerging nations since the financial crisis, Pakistan is a considered client state with a Taliban and al Qaeda presence plotting to kill US soldiers and fanning the war in Afghanistan.Pakistan, whose status as a nuclear power still alarms the West, has been stifled by decades of military rule, recession and religious extremism.Its security forces are fighting a Taliban insurgency in the northwest.
Analysts say Islamabad should soften its foreign policy, dominated by the anti-Indian military, to avoid isolation as the United States looks to end the war against the Afghan Taliban.“In today’s world, defeat can be described in one way only: international isolation…Pakistan must learn to be more objective about the crisis it is facing internally,” wrote The Express Tribune in an editorial.“Pakistan can sort out this crisis through self-correction

[Pranav]

It was the very same ISI that plotted Mrs Gandhi's killing in 1984 by Sikh extremists.

This is another murky incident ... RK Dhawan was said to be involved, and Acharya says that some of the planning was done in the UK.

[Prem]

http://www.cfr.org/publication/23349/co ... video.html

Lying Mooshey, blinking eyes 1k miles a minute, talking about his chivalry.

[CRamS]

Guys, just seeing Mush on Faux noose. Mush was true to form, but the host, Greta something does the most bizzare equal equal. She asked Mush what she thought about India asking the US not to give TSP $7.5 billion (K-L bill), and instead give it to India . I mean how do these f%^&*ing dim-wits get to and such positions in the media and get paid big bucks.

One thing Gola said escaped me, perhpahs I didn't hear him well. He said some org pays him well, he travels the world giving lecture etc. Which is this org that is paying for Mush's kushy stay in London and jet setting him around the world to give lectures? Not bad for a terrorist.

[svinayak]

Guys, just seeing Mush on Faux noose. Mush was true to form, but the host,

Check how the Pak generals are worried. Mush looks worried that his country is going to hit the wall. Their policy needs change or else they have disaster

They are worried about Indian army

[Philip]

You've all heard that famous saying that "every court must have its clown..",the court jester to keep the monarch amused.However,after listening to Gen.Bandicoot's ranting-and-a-raving against India,it now appears that "every clown must have his court..!

More grave news from the land of the impure.

Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan 'for blasphemy'
A Christian woman has been sentenced to hang in Pakistan after being convicted of defaming the Prophet Mohammed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... phemy.html

[jrjrao]

Yesterday at the CFR. Today at the Atlantic Council, which was even carried by C-Span.

Somebody in DC is working hard to lubricate this musharraf pretty good. Get him ready for new Gubo missions in Isloo, is the thinking, I bet.

"I don't want to be Indo-centric, but I will still talk about India for all but 15 minutes out of this hour and a half show. My name is Musharraf, and I am a real musharraf", is what this hair-dye laden clown is saying in the video.

Transcript and video:
http://www.acus.org/event/us-pakistan-r ... -musharraf

[Lalmohan]

prem-ji, in previous page you mention that pak has been exploiting pashtuns since 47... yes, but the seeds of this exploitation go back to 1857. the jihad faction of the deobandis decided that since the british empire could not be defeated from inside india, the jihad had to be taken first to dar-ul-islam and then from their solid base there to bring the jihad back to dar-ul-harb and re-establish the mughal empire and thence the caliphate. there began a deliberate effort then to relocate the 'movement' to afghanistan from UP/Bihar, which then culminates in the numerous pathan tribal insurrections of the north west frontier (not the first two afghan wars) against the british empire going on into the 1920's and 30's
all the frontier tribes - the mehsuds, ghilzais, etc., were already coopted into jihad since the 1860's and therefore found it a natural extension to participate in the invasion of kashmir in 47 and so on and so on...
i conclude therefore that the ideological fraternity between the islamists and the pak jarnails is a far older vibe than just zia... he may have resurrected it, but it was already there

[jagga]

Pakistan says it has refused to tone down the decades old border cereomony at the Wagah Border crossing with India.Earlier this year, India had suggested some of the gestures were too "hostile." Thousands of people come to watch the elaborate and enthusiastic ceremony just before dusk each day.

Pakistan defends spectacular Wagah border ritual

[Pratyush]

India ought to do so unilaterly.

on serious matters.

Pakistan Bakistan taxes own citizens to raise money for flood relief

[Philip]

"Follow the money..." Gen.Bandicoot is being promoted by vested outside interests because he is a "decisive" man,sorry...commando.His party would also be the retirement home for retd. Paki military men,who could continue their grip on power in pak through his party,actually a military outfit in mufti.He is acceptable to the west/US because of his track record,where when asked merely to stop support for theTaliban,he jumped onto the US's wagon at hyperersonic speed. His greed for moolah is also much less than the Zardars and Sharifs.With the country in such a state,as the old saying goes,"any port in a strom",and Mush-a-rat ,once disgraced can certainly be rehabilitated given the depths of esteem that the current crop of Paki rulers enjoy!

There is another angle to promoting Gen.M'rat.He was bold enough to take on India at Kargil.That makes him an attractive figure to those vested interests who want a strong Pak to deal with India and keep up pressure upon India over Kashmir.I suspect that some elements of the US establishment would be very happy to see the "return of the commando,sorry...clown".

[Arjun]

Pakistan defends spectacular Wagah border ritual

Guess they meant 'Spectacularly Ridiculous' border ritual.

Hope there is no backtracking from Indian side.

[jagga]

^^ Its just a show for the likes of WB, IMF and west. Pures will say, look we have increase the taxes and pakistanis are contributing in a BIG WAY. Now, Its your (world's) turn to become more generous towards pakistanis.
How much would pakis collect by above tax increase? Maximum few millions (in 2 digit). And, they would demand billions after that. Its nothing but drama to get more money from rest of the world.

[RajeshA]

Acharya garu,

My apologies, but posting those youtube videos sound to me as giving Pakistani propaganda too much space on BRF just to prove some point. Just my humble view!

[Pratyush]

Philiip,

What was it that Mcarthur said, Generals dont retire. They just fade away. (IF I have gotten it wrong blease correct.) It time for Mush to fade away in obscurity.

[rohiths]

Musharraf wanted to replace Jinnah's image with his own on Pak currency
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 906978.cms

[niran]

Philiip,

What was it that Mcarthur said, Generals dont retire. They just fade away. (IF I have gotten it wrong blease correct.) It time for Mush to fade away in obscurity.

maybe Mushy detected his car sunroof malfuctioning and the mechanics are unable to repair

[Pratyush]

Musharraf wanted to replace Jinnah's image with his own on Pak currency
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 906978.cms

Rohit,

100 lashes to you, have already posted this to benis dhaga.

[SSridhar]

Abandoning Project Jihad - Edit in DT

Pakistan is in a state of increasing state failure. No institution seems salvageable and we are having trouble managing what little resources we have. To stake everything on a claim on Kashmir when we are hard put to it to manage our domestic affairs is increasingly too high risk to be continued with equanimity. India is progressing globally at breakneck speed and could eventually trigger an internal collapse in this country without firing a single shot, a la the Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War. We must abandon this militant adventurism we have embarked upon on many fronts and work hard on the process of dialogue leading to regional peace.