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IIRC, the IA is OK with pullback if the lines are agreed to on a map and signed off by both sides.

Cosmo_R wrote:IIRC, the IA is OK with pullback if the lines are agreed to on a map and signed off by both sides.

RajeshA wrote:

SSridhar wrote:"The two leaders discussed matters relating to the socio-economic development and protection of environment, an official spokesman said."

Right! McCain discussing the environment! May be if he had brought Al Gore along, the explanation may have been more believable.

McCain is a nobody (absolute zero) and Omar Abdulla is 1% more than nobody in India.

Diamer Basha, to be located on the Indus River, would provide 4,500 megawatts of power, roughly the country's current shortfall, though it would take some eight years to build.

shiv wrote:LOL! I think this McCain (loser to black man Ombaba) is being given too much importance. He is simply visiting onlee. Nothing will change in Siachen. Please archive this statement and haul me up anytime in the next five years if I am wrong. The US is mostly begging Pakistan for help and is hardly going to get sympathy in India. McCain is a nobody (absolute zero) and Omar Abdulla is 1% more than nobody in India.

shiv wrote:LOL! I think this McCain (loser to black man Ombaba) is being given too much importance. He is simply visiting onlee. Nothing will change in Siachen. Please archive this statement and haul me up anytime in the next five years if I am wrong. The US is mostly begging Pakistan for help and is hardly going to get sympathy in India. McCain is a nobody (absolute zero) and Omar Abdulla is 1% more than nobody in India.

ramana wrote: LOL! I think this McCain (loser to black man Ombaba) is being given too much importance. He is simply visiting onlee. Nothing will change in Siachen. Please archive this statement and haul me up anytime in the next five years if I am wrong. The US is mostly begging Pakistan for help and is hardly going to get sympathy in India. McCain is a nobody (absolute zero) and Omar Abdulla is 1% more than nobody in India.


Since Adalai Stevenson in the mid 1950s, loosing American Presidential candidates meddle in Cashmere.

It makes them feel important on world stage.

Acharya wrote: Never allow americans to meddle in Kashmir and
Kashmir reached it zenith before most of civilization.
Indian Kashmir has been around even before America was born.

At least 30 people were killed and one million people affected as floods triggered by heavy monsoon rains have devastated parts of southern Pakistan.

Chief minister Qaim Ali Shah of the southern Sindh province said the rains and breaches in canals had affected about one million people in six districts.

Badin district has been hit hardest by monsoon rains and some parts of it are under four to five feet of water. Eighty per cent of crops in the district have been destroyed and hundreds of villages have been submerged due to a breach in Asia's biggest saline nullah.

Besides Badin, the floods have affected the districts of Tando Mohammad Khan, Mirpurkhas, Thar, Umerkot and Tando Allahyar.

In Punjab, heavy rains have caused flash floods in Sialkot and Kasur districts.

The current flooding has stemmed from heavy rains across Pakistan, as opposed to last year when torrential downpours in the north sent a series of floods cascading through the country as rivers overflowed their banks

A_Gupta wrote:Meta-question: why is McCain's visit to J&K being discussed on the TSP thread? I do not concede TSP any locus standi in J&K, so why would an American senator visiting TSP and J&K in sequence make that different?

CRamS wrote:
What leverage does India have over US? Soon after Pokhran-II, BJ Clinton said "we will come down on these guys like a ton of bricks", and soon after HalfBright stared this Kashmir is a nuke flashpoint mantra. And this is only the tip of the ice berg. US can cause heartburn to India over Kashmir if they choose to. At the UN, US proposes, and the rest dispose. There would be no Kashmir issue but for US/UK perfidy in the UN, and of course Nehru's colossal blunder.

RajeshA wrote:
Right! McCain discussing the environment! May be if he had brought Al Gore along, the explanation may have been more believable.

Acharya wrote:

CRamS wrote:
Do you want India to capitulate and let them run the country. Best of luck to them.
At the peak of the US global reach they had the support of the entire world to back them
Now in the opposite spectrum they have less leverage over India.

krisna wrote:30 killed as heavy rains cause flood in Pakistan

watch for more news in the coming weeks.

“If he is that fond of Indian culture, he should return to his ancestor’s lad Jati Umra,” he added while talking to media here at JI office. He said that the contents of Mian Nawaz Sharif’s statement were highly worrying for the entire nation. “He (Sharif) says that Muslims and Hindus worship same God. It sounds as if he is ignorant of basic teachings of Islam,” he maintained. He said that Nawaz Sharif’s claim that Hindus and Muslims possessed same culture and language was no more than a hilarious statement.

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The current flooding has stemmed from heavy rains across Pakistan, as opposed to last year when torrential downpours in the north sent a series of floods cascading through the country as rivers overflowed their banks


watch for more news in the coming weeks.

At least 17 people were killed including Pakistan Peoples Party’s (PPP) ex-MNA and leader Waja Karim Dad in incidents of firing and grenade attacks in Karachi on Wednesday.

AMERICA’S NEW GAME PLAN FOR PAKISTAN

AN INTERESTING ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN AN URDU WEEKLY “NEW YORK AWAM” DATED AUGUST 5-11, 2011

America’s New Game Plan:
Pakistan’s Nuclear Weapons Should be under the Control of the United Nations.

According to American media, USA has obtained support of Russia, France, U.K. and China for this proposal. America desires that in the month of September, this plan should be initiated.

Washington (News Desk): Pakistan and USA are heading for a confrontation which would result in complete annihilation. Obama Administration is prompting Pakistan to abandon production of nuclear materials/weapons. Media reports indicate that talks will start in the next U.N. session in September. In this connection, four recognized nuclear weapon states have already expressed their support to the US proposal. In this connection, it should also be noted that a couple of days ago, NBC Channel had reported that USA had a “snatch and grab” plan to capture about 100 nuclear weapons if it felt that there was a danger of atomic weapons falling into the wrong hands.

Recently, former President Musharraf said on the NBC Channel that this dangerous thinking could result in a war between Pakistan and the USA. The question of guarantee of safety of nuclear weapons had also come up before 9/11. But this time the USA with the help of nuclear nations will start a campaign and compel Pakistan to stop production of nuclear material/weapons and sign the treaty

According to American media, the USA has already obtained the consent of China. Recently, in a conference in Paris, Russia, France and Britain had supported the American proposal.

However one thing is not clear as to how China will permit India to emerge as a nuclear power in South Asia at the cost of Pakistan.

America and its allies are willing to sign this draft proposal next month in the UN Assembly. After that systematic campaign will start. So far Pakistan has successfully thwarted world body’s pressure. In this connection, Pakistan has also informed the comity of the nations that Pakistan would boycott any talks supporting American proposal.

Muppalla wrote:I got is via email and I don't have a link

AMERICA’S NEW GAME PLAN FOR PAKISTAN

AN INTERESTING ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN AN URDU WEEKLY “NEW YORK AWAM” DATED AUGUST 5-11, 2011

CRamS wrote: Here is my interpretation. Recall, as much as McCain gives a rodent's behind when it comes to environment, global warming, and any change in US consumption/lifestyle in combating them, environemntal issues become a big deal when it comes to India, specifically, US has been making some noises of late about Indian army in Siachen causing some environmental damaage or some crap like that. I don't have the specific news reports or links handy, but I do recall US pushing this angle to draw some concessions from India on Siachen.

shiv wrote: Sounds like something lifted out of Pakistan's Urdu press.

abhishek_sharma wrote:
Richard Holbrooke was making this argument.

shiv wrote:

Muppalla wrote:I got is via email and I don't have a link

AMERICA’S NEW GAME PLAN FOR PAKISTAN

AN INTERESTING ARTICLE PUBLISHED IN AN URDU WEEKLY “NEW YORK AWAM” DATED AUGUST 5-11, 2011


Sounds like something lifted out of Pakistan's Urdu press.

chetak wrote:
How does it matter from where it's published??