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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 10:46
by Prem
The partition of India
BC, Good Ridence, Why the need 2 Justify Your own Existence
One common allegation against Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the leader of the Muslim League, is that he, in league with the British, effectively blocked alternative solutions to the Hindu-Muslim problem other than a partition of the subcontinent. Is the allegation valid?
The communal problem in the British India centred on Muslims’ apprehension that in the absence of adequate constitutional safeguards, they would be overwhelmed by the majority Hindus politically and economically. The Congress most of the time would deny either that the communal problem existed, or that it was serious enough to warrant even special safeguards for Muslims, to say nothing of a separate Muslim state.In the first place, when the plan was presented to the Congress, it tried to get the Mission’s assurance that in the event the Congress accepted the plan while the League rejected it, power would be transferred to the Congress. The Mission gave the assurance. As the plan fell short of Muslim demand for a separate state, the Congress was certain the League would turn it down, thus prompting the British to hand over power to the Congress; the 1937-39 Congress provincial governments had already given Muslims a taste of Hindu rule. Jinnah did not want that and thus decided that the League should accept the constitutional scheme.
In the second place, the Congress had unleashed the propaganda that the partition of India was a British scheme and that Jinnah and the League were merely a tool to execute the scheme. The Congress would also accuse Jinnah of obstructing the independence of India by pressing for the partition. Jinnah wanted to refute these allegations and tell his critics that he was as keen for independence from British imperialism and a settlement of the Hindu-Muslim problem as Gandhi, Nehru and Azad were.
The third reason for Jinnah to accept the plan was that he saw in it seeds of Pakistan. The proposed units, two of which were to comprise Muslim majority provinces, were to be given full autonomy. Moreover, each region after 10 year could opt out of the federation and proclaim independence. And the units were to be created on the basis of religion – the same basis on which the demand for Pakistan rested.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 10:52
by rajanb
I thought

that interest was a cutlet item? That too usurious rate of 18%.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 10:55
by partha
Jo Lawhore mein G woh India aur Srilanka men bhi G
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/aug/14 ... or-sex.htm
Renowned cricket umpire Asad Rauf has been caught on the back foot following allegations by an Oshiwara-based model that the former Pakistan first-class cricketer sexually exploited her for several months after promising marriage.
Leena Kapoor has sent a written complaint (copy with MiD DAY) to the office of Pratap Dighavkar, DCP, zone IX. She has mentioned that she had met Rauf through a mutual friend in Sri Lanka six months ago. They exchanged numbers and then stayed together in the country for three days.
On reaching Mumbai, she fell ill. Rauf came over to see her and their bond grew stronger. Kapoor says Rauf committed at the time that he would marry her and get her a new flat. He told her he was married and had two kids, but his religion allowed him to have more than one wife and his family would give its consent.
The two kept meeting, often when Rauf — who is a member of ICC Elite Umpire Panel — would come over to India to officiate in tournaments including the IPL. “I asked him several times about the marriage and he would always tell me that it would happen soon,” Kapoor told MiD DAY.
Kapoor said that a few days earlier she tried calling Rauf, but there was no response from his side. Five days ago, he allegedly called her up saying he didn’t know her and didn’t want any further interactions with her.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 10:56
by Gus
Hiten wrote:Just received a phone call from a pakistan number...
Just wondering if these are just wrong number calls. What is the scam here?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 11:05
by Lilo
Gus wrote:Hiten wrote:Just received a phone call from a pakistan number...
Just wondering if these are just wrong number calls. What is the scam here?
This is the Scam.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 8#p1305318
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 11:23
by abhijitm
This day pakistan got independence from freedom.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 13:35
by SSridhar
I am pretty sure that the Pakis are doing this with an ulterior motive (or, in other words, normal Paki behaviour). But, has anybody convincingly explained how this scam works ?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 13:36
by SSridhar
abhijitm wrote:This day pakistan got independence from freedom.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 13:41
by Anujan
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/08/14/ ... CoKn8ie5vs
Awami Muslim League (AML) leader Sheikh Rasheed Ahmed on Monday in a unexpected move requested Taliban leader Mullah Omar to permit Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf (PTI) for its Waziristan march.
A domestic terrorist requesting a foreign terrorist to permit future Pakistan PM to march into Pakistan territory

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 14:02
by Pratyush
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 15:57
by Neela
Heard on local Radio. Interview with ordinary Pakis on their independence day.
1. Street vendor.
....
Who can afford to buy flags when they are so expensive. We barely manage to feed out children.
.....
2. IT Student in University
......blah blah blah...Pakistanis have become synonymous with Taliban and the image of Pakistan has taken a severe beating the last few years. If I go online and make friends on Facebook or online gamers, once they know I am from Paaakistan, they kick me out.
3. Middle income male head of family.
.....
There is just dejection and despair everywhere! Every institution has failed. The entire system must be cleaned and we should restart again. The politicians must go first!
......
That for you gentlemen, is a summary of the Independence day! The promised land of milk, honey, goats and ayeshas was just a mutated dream from a Indian movie! in reality , what they got for a mountain of sin is the pleasure of rotting in
hell Pakistan, their own Muslim brotahs kicking them in their nuts as they squeal, and the waiting for the sweet coming of death which delivers them their relief!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 17:11
by KJo
partha wrote:Jo Lawhore mein G woh India aur Srilanka men bhi G
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/aug/14 ... or-sex.htm
Renowned cricket umpire Asad Rauf has been caught on the back foot following allegations by an Oshiwara-based model that the former Pakistan first-class cricketer sexually exploited her for several months after promising marriage.
Leena Kapoor has sent a written complaint (copy with MiD DAY) to the office of Pratap Dighavkar, DCP, zone IX. She has mentioned that she had met Rauf through a mutual friend in Sri Lanka six months ago. They exchanged numbers and then stayed together in the country for three days.
On reaching Mumbai, she fell ill. Rauf came over to see her and their bond grew stronger. Kapoor says Rauf committed at the time that he would marry her and get her a new flat. He told her he was married and had two kids, but his religion allowed him to have more than one wife and his family would give its consent.
The two kept meeting, often when Rauf — who is a member of ICC Elite Umpire Panel — would come over to India to officiate in tournaments including the IPL. “I asked him several times about the marriage and he would always tell me that it would happen soon,” Kapoor told MiD DAY.
Kapoor said that a few days earlier she tried calling Rauf, but there was no response from his side. Five days ago, he allegedly called her up saying he didn’t know her and didn’t want any further interactions with her.
What is sadder is how Indian girls fall for this nonsense from Pakis. I believe this "love jihad" is being played in Londonistan also.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 17:45
by anupmisra
abhijitm wrote:This day pakistan got independence from freedom.
Good one. And the next day, India celebrates the separation of pakistan.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 18:37
by anupmisra
Pakistan is for Islam
And the ghost of djinnah lies well and truly buried.
Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Monday said Pakistan came into being in the name of Islam and no power could dare eliminate Islam from the country
.. no one had the right to impose his will on others, adding that Pakistan and Islam were synonym to each other
...the armed forces were not the sole stakeholders
AoA! The general has spoken.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 19:15
by sudhan
Rony wrote:ADB wants Pakistan to bow before India
Pakistan does not need financial support of Asian Development Bank if rulers really want to construct the dam and are serious to resolve water and power issues in the country, it could be built using local resources.
Djinn economics..
Soon an porki engineer from will come out with ground breaking "Technology".. and declare that..
Djinns can be milked!!
Unlimited resources, AoA!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 19:46
by Dipanker
partha wrote:Jo Lawhore mein G woh India aur Srilanka men bhi G
http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/aug/14 ... or-sex.htm
Renowned cricket umpire Asad Rauf has been caught on the back foot following allegations by an Oshiwara-based model that the former Pakistan first-class cricketer sexually exploited her for several months after promising marriage.
Leena Kapoor has sent a written complaint (copy with MiD DAY) to the office of Pratap Dighavkar, DCP, zone IX. She has mentioned that she had met Rauf through a mutual friend in Sri Lanka six months ago. They exchanged numbers and then stayed together in the country for three days.
On reaching Mumbai, she fell ill. Rauf came over to see her and their bond grew stronger. Kapoor says Rauf committed at the time that he would marry her and get her a new flat. He told her he was married and had two kids, but his religion allowed him to have more than one wife and his family would give its consent.
The two kept meeting, often when Rauf — who is a member of ICC Elite Umpire Panel — would come over to India to officiate in tournaments including the IPL. “I asked him several times about the marriage and he would always tell me that it would happen soon,” Kapoor told MiD DAY.
Kapoor said that a few days earlier she tried calling Rauf, but there was no response from his side. Five days ago, he allegedly called her up saying he didn’t know her and didn’t want any further interactions with her.
One thing I don't understand, these Paki so easily commit "zina" (adultery/fornication/rape), punishment for which according to Sharia Law is stoning to death.
Does that mean even though they are muslim but they have scant regard for Islamic Laws?
Either that or it is o.k. sexually exploit an infidel/kafir as per Islamic Law?
These Paki exhibit the same behaviour whether in UK, or Greece, or anywhere else.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 19:51
by Aditya_V
I think there is no Zina if woman is considered a Right Hand possesion obtained in Jihad. So in this case the Leena Kapoor might just be a right hand possesion
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 20:47
by Sushupti
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 21:12
by anupmisra
So, today is the day when everyone in pakisatan trots out the famous djinnah dreams of paki secularity. Even though that he said those words is debatable, I took another crack at what he actually meant:
“You (meaning all approved tall, fair and tight arsed pakistani muslims) are free (to rob, cheat, rape, and hound others), you (dark skinned kafirs and others who are destined to burn in hell) are free to go to your (small, dark, and musty) temples, you (lucky sunnis) are free to go to your (wide open, pure and clean) mosques or (unless you want to be halaled or wajib-ul-kataled) any other place of (<gasp>) worship in this (one god-given and religiously-rabid) State of Pakistan. You may (think that you) belong to any (accursed and na-pak) religion or cast (that is fit only for cleaning our streets and toilets) or creed (other than those of us whose forefathers came from Turkey and Iran) – that has (so you think) nothing to do with the (singular) business of the State (i.e., of loot, pillage and be a general pain-in-the-ass-to-others).”
Ameen!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 21:30
by Prem
http://dawn.com/2012/08/14/at-least-20- ... -military/
Clash in Orakzai kills at least 20 militants, five soldiers: officials
KAAL AYYA: At least five Pakistani soldiers were killed on Tuesday as security forces launched a decisive strike on the Dolanai mountain top in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 20 militants in the battle for the Taliban stronghold, security officials said.At least 18 other soldiers were also reported to be injured in the clash.According to some officials, security forces killed up to 25 militants as they overran the Dolanai mountaintop — located in Ghaljo tehsil of Orakzai agency – taking control of the strategic stronghold of Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) commander Mullah Toofan after fierce fighting.Frontier Corps spokesman Major Fazul confirmed 25 militants had been killed, further claiming that seven others injured in the gun battle, while security forces lost only three soldiers and 19 others, including a captain, were injured.Other sources said five soldiers had died during the operation and 18 soldiers, who were injured, had been shifted to various hospitals via helicopter.However, a report by Reuters quoting unnamed military officials said the clash began when militants ambushed a military patrol. The report said 20 militants as well as five soldiers were killed, with 18 other soldiers injured in the ambush.Another report by the Associated Press (AP) said 30 militants were killed when insurgents ambushed security forces during a routine search in the region. The report quoted government official Jam Ill Khan, administrator for Parachinar, the capital of the neighboring Kurram agency.The reports could not be independently verified as journalists have restricted access in the tribal regions, while the remoteness of Orakzai region makes it impossible to verify the government’s accounts. Militants also often dispute official military figures or death tolls.The Pakistan military has been conducting operations against militants in Orakzai for months.Speaking to Dawn.com, Political Tehsildar Ham IED Khan said that the fall of Dalonai would help in advance towards Tor Samaat, which is the home town of TTP commander Mullah ‘Toofan’ (Urdu for storm).Several militant groups are active in the northwestern semi-autonomous tribal regions, near the border with Afghanistan, including the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its offshoots, responsible for many of the bombings across the country in recent years.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 21:46
by member_23370
Sorry but if a woman is stupid enough to fall for a paki guy she deserves it. I have no sympathies for such dimwits. A good paki is always a dead paki. The woman herself is an adulteress who knew that the paki vermin was married and had kids and a wife. So I so no reason to play her up as the victim. She is the same as one of the stupid girls that tiger woods slept with.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 22:00
by Mihaylo
Bheeshma wrote:Sorry but if a woman is stupid enough to fall for a paki guy she deserves it. I have no sympathies for such dimwits. A good paki is always a dead paki. The woman herself is an adulteress who knew that the paki vermin was married and had kids and a wife. So I so no reason to play her up as the victim. She is the same as one of the stupid girls that tiger woods slept with.
Darwin's law. She deserved what she got and I hope she doesn't breed.
-M
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 22:05
by Charlie
Swapandas Gupta in 2006
The Mumbai spirit is to political mobilisation what the Upanishads are to Hinduism — a mass of abstractions which establishes intellectual superiority in a climate of political servitude. It is a manifestation of both fear and defeatism, and is likely to be interpreted as such by Islamists. There is a feeling in the Muslim community, quite openly articulated in Pakistan, that Hindus lack the mental wherewithal to wield power. “We were rulers here for 800 years. Inshaallah, we shall return to power once again,” threatened the Shahi Imam of Delhi’s Jama Masjid on July 17, after accusing the authorities of targeting every “bearded man” in the country. The Shahi Imam is a loose cannon who defies the expedient stereotype of the pious maulvi. What then will they say of the belief, again widespread in Pakistan, that the problem with Hindus is their deep sense of inferiority vis-á-vis Muslims? This, of course, is a peculiarly North Indian phenomenon but it continues to shape Indo-Pak diplomacy. The good UP small-town Hindu genuflects before the so-called “refined Urdu” of the Muslim feudals while his Punjabi counterpart drools over the greasy food served in the bylanes of Lahore. Together they add up to the foreign policy conclusion that the rogue State be given another chance to affirm its allegiance to a composite culture
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 22:11
by ramana
I said many times Urdu is a Indian language in Persian/Arabic script. Bring it back into Devanagari as a parallel path.
The Arabised Persians/Arabs hardly have any culture.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 22:25
by member_22872
One thing I don't understand, these Paki so easily commit "zina" (adultery/fornication/rape), punishment for which according to Sharia Law is stoning to death.
Does that mean even though they are muslim but they have scant regard for Islamic Laws?
I think islam doesn't proscribe fornication/adultery/rape/having kids with kafurs. I think they fully support such practices for the reason that it will make kafurs suffer and embrace islam if married to them, and/or if such a relationship begets progeny, that gives them bragging rights for showing the right place of kafur women and if they have kids, they end up being musalman anyways...good for them in what ever way they see it, so sharia doesn't apply here...kafur hindus are animals onlee.
Added later:
May be I am wrong, sharia applies alright only when it involves a muslim woman and a kafur. Then sharia comes into full force and he is marked for waji-bull-cutlet.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 22:29
by lakshmikanth
^^^^ Every WKK woman should experience atleast one Baki man.
It might be the best cure for WKKism for women. One thing about elite Indian women (and most Massa women) I have learnt is that: when they are young (age is less than 30) they have this dream that some young prince on an impressive white horse would come riding along and sweep her off her feet.
On top of it many Indian elites have a deep hatred for the middle class and the poor in India, basically they hate India (because they hate themselves). Hence it is much easier for them to be impressed by people whom they consider are 'eliter' than they are.
Baki males grow up thinking they are Ghazis, they are the invaders who came riding from the West to loot and plunder and take what is theirs. They love themselves. They are far superior than anything Indian, and ofcourse all Indian women are their property.
These two are made for each other. They live in a delusional world with a distorted view of reality. They deserve each other.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 22:46
by shiv
anupmisra wrote:So, today is the day when everyone in pakisatan trots out the famous djinnah dreams of paki secularity. Even though that he said those words is debatable, I took another crack at what he actually meant:
“You (meaning all approved tall, fair and tight arsed pakistani muslims) are free (to rob, cheat, rape, and hound others), you (dark skinned kafirs and others who are destined to burn in hell) are free to go to your (small, dark, and musty) temples, you (lucky sunnis) are free to go to your (wide open, pure and clean) mosques or (unless you want to be halaled or wajib-ul-kataled) any other place of (<gasp>) worship in this (one god-given and religiously-rabid) State of Pakistan. You may (think that you) belong to any (accursed and na-pak) religion or cast (that is fit only for cleaning our streets and toilets) or creed (other than those of us whose forefathers came from Turkey and Iran) – that has (so you think) nothing to do with the (singular) business of the State (i.e., of loot, pillage and be a general pain-in-the-ass-to-others).”
Ameen!
+1
First post material
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 23:26
by anupmisra
lakshmikanth wrote:^^^^ Every WKK woman should experience atleast one Baki man... They deserve each other.
Every dhimmi (male or female) should experience a bit of islamiyat (if a baki is included in the deal, so much the better) at least once in his/her formative years. That self-induced bitterness against their own kind and culture will soon dissipate into reality.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 14 Aug 2012 23:45
by Dipanker
Bheeshma wrote:Sorry but if a woman is stupid enough to fall for a paki guy she deserves it. I have no sympathies for such dimwits. A good paki is always a dead paki. The woman herself is an adulteress who knew that the paki vermin was married and had kids and a wife. So I so no reason to play her up as the victim. She is the same as one of the stupid girls that tiger woods slept with.
You can't clap with one hand, just because the women is stupid, does not mean she exploitable material.
The person who exploits her ( Paki in this case ) taking advantage of her stupidity basically has no scruples. I will give you that Paki-satan as a whole a morally bankrupt nation.
Hopefully, Talibans are reading the newspaper and as per Ssharia Law stone him to death as punishment for committing adultery!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 00:09
by member_23370
Pakis have whatever is coming to them and rightly so. But I don't think stupid woman has any relevance to this thread. Also if she was willing to be his second/third /fourth wife then she deserves it completely. Sorry I do not hold the paki guilty, he was doing things per his nature. He is after all a paki a sub-human from the religion of a arabic pedophile. Why was she so stupid?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 00:26
by ramana
Bheeshma wrote:Pakis have whatever is coming to them and rightly so. But I don't think stupid woman has any relevance to this thread. Also if she was willing to be his second/third /fourth wife then she deserves it completely. Sorry I do not hold the paki guilty, he was doing things per his nature. He is after all a paki a sub-human from the religion of a arabic pedophile. Why was she so stupid?
Maybe she got fed on romantic notions of 'handsome' others in whom she would find acceptance?*
In end most things are piskological.
* Read Amy Tan who spouts that Asian/Chinese females should get hitched to caucasian males to escape traditional Chinese society!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 00:46
by nakul
I don't know why a woman would oblige when a man says this
He told her he was married and had two kids, but his religion allowed him to have more than one wife and his family would give its consent.
A few years down the line, he will say that to another woman. Is she okay with that?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 00:49
by anupmisra
Another paki conventional and delusional wisdom nailed.
Late Pak General exposes a lie his bosses spawned
In other words, Pakistan itself is primarily responsible for the terrible events that led to the forcible birth of Bangladesh.
The Hamoodur Rehman Commission has given a lie to the claim made by Pakistani authorities that they acted to pre-empt the Awami League's revolt.
Raja points to the several instances of suspicion between the Bengalis, who he claims termed the Pakistan Army personnel as "shala Punjabis"
Various estimates of those killed and raped have been given - the Bangladeshis have said that 3 million people were killed and some 200,000 women raped in the civil war. The Hamoodur Rehman Commission, which went by figures provided to them by the GHQ, put the figure of those killed at 26,000 and those raped in tens and twenties.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 00:51
by anupmisra
nakul wrote:I don't know why a woman would oblige when a man says this
He told her he was married and had two kids, but his religion allowed him to have more than one wife and his family would give its consent.
Its not true when a TFTA paki with deep bank balance says it. Even if it was, for a WKK it makes the TFTA more attractive and liberal than her own kind.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 00:54
by darshhan
Bheeshma wrote:Pakis have whatever is coming to them and rightly so. But I don't think stupid woman has any relevance to this thread. Also if she was willing to be his second/third /fourth wife then she deserves it completely. Sorry I do not hold the paki guilty, he was doing things per his nature. He is after all a paki a sub-human from the religion of a arabic pedophile. Why was she so stupid?
+1. We have more pressing issues at hand than to worry about some stupid *deleted*.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 01:06
by BijuShet
People please stay on Topic.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 01:16
by Prem
BijuShet wrote:People please stay on Topic.
What is the Topic?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 01:18
by anupmisra
Jhujar wrote:BijuShet wrote:People please stay on Topic.
What is the Topic?

Seeta kaun tha?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 02:33
by Dipanker
Bheeshma wrote:Pakis have whatever is coming to them and rightly so. But I don't think stupid woman has any relevance to this thread. Also if she was willing to be his second/third /fourth wife then she deserves it completely. Sorry I do not hold the paki guilty, he was doing things per his nature. He is after all a paki a sub-human from the religion of a arabic pedophile. Why was she so stupid?
I hold him guilty for committing adultery against the tenant of Islam a religion he follows. Therefore in Pakistan he should be punished by a group of Qadris and duly Qadrified as per Sharia Law. Qadris of Paki-satan are you listening?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) : 24 July 2
Posted: 15 Aug 2012 02:50
by Prem
The Two-Muslim theory
( Jinnah's Faithfool and Dhool Ke Fool)
http://dawn.com/2012/08/14/the-two-muslim-theory/
So when someone says ‘Muslims of Indo-Pak subcontinent’ with reference to our history, does this refer to one unanimous, monolithic block of people with no shades and diversity? I think it’s a big folly to ignore how divergent the political interests and ambitions of Muslims were in the period that ended on this day 65 years ago. A reintroduction to these groups and how the new state of Pakistan responded to their political aspirations might help us understand where we stand now.Pre-partition Muslims can be classified in many ways. For now I would put them into two larger groups and instead of laboring over an academically-sound definition of each, I will demonstrate my point by offering example of one person from each of these two groups.
Abdul Ghaffar Khan was born in 1890 to rural middle-class Pakhtun parents of Utmanzai, a small town in the present day district of Charssadda. At the age of 20 he opened a school in his village. He had woken up to the fact that his people have no future if they don’t educate themselves and their children. The tall, young man proved to be a zealous missionary. He would walk for miles from one village to the other with his simple message – educate yourself and abstain from violence. He was a devout Muslim, a five-timer namazi parhaizgar and would draw heavily from Islamic history and the Prophet’s sayings to rally fellow Pakhtuns. People joined him in droves. His arcane appeal matured into charisma, some would even give him a halo.In his 30s, he founded a social reform movement named Khudai Khidmatgar (Servants of God). By now he was named Badshah Khan or Bacha Khan. The movement, like many others of that era, gave its volunteers a uniform that was red and organised them on the pattern of a militia that was, in his words, armed “with the weapon of the Prophet – that is, patience and righteousness. No power on earth can stand against it.” It was only Bacha Khan who could unarm Pakhtuns who otherwise were considered quarrelsome and trigger-happy.The Red Shirts, as the volunteers of the movement were known as, were against the British rule and demanded self government. For the British, the then province of NWFP had great strategic importance. It was a so-called buffer against the Afghan government that was not friendly with the Raj and also against the Russians whom the British dreaded as their rivals.Pakhtun Muslims felt comfortable with Congress and that didn’t bear out of some personal friendship between the top leaders. Congress accommodated politics of budding smaller sub-national groups, offered them space for growth and opportunity to integrate with others without giving much consideration to religion. On the other hand, Bacha Khan did not owe his ‘fearlessness’ vis a vis Hindus to Pakhtun chivalric traditions, instead he had earned this confidence through successive electoral victories. He had a large constituency where Muslims were in majority. There were Hindus too but Pakhtun Muslims did not see Pakhtun Hindus as threat to their religion or politics.
Despite its vociferous campaign Muslim League could not ignite fears of Hindu domination in the support base of Bacha Khan. His comrades won the land mark elections of 1946 with a thumping majority. He opposed the Partition on the basis of religion, but it happened. His democratically elected government was dismissed 8 days after the independence, on 22 August, 1947 when Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah was the Governor General and Liaqat Ali Khan was the Prime Minister.
Nawabzada Liaqat Ali Khan was five-years younger to Bacha Khan. He was born in 1895 to a Muslim aristocrat family whose jagir starting at the eastern edge of Punjab (now Haryana) stretched into Uttar Pradesh. His family had cordial relations with the British. Some say the family gained fortunes and earned intimacy with the Raj, when his grandfather extended support to the British during the hard times of 1857. His father earned many a titles and honors too.Prime Minister Liaqat Ali is accredited with a number of ground breaking contributions. He decided to ally with the US in the Cold War divide; quashed a coup attempt by communists; promoted General Ayub to the highest rank and fought a war with India over Kashmir to name just a select few. His government ruled on ad hoc basis under temporary laws as it could not formulate and build a consensus on a constitution for the country.
Reasons were simple. They could not dig out a monarchy to rule the country nor could they install a Caliph. The constitution has to be based on democracy. But the problem was that Meerut was now in India. The most powerful Prime Minister serving for one of the longest periods in the history of Pakistan had no constituency in the country to contest elections from. A committed democrat and an active parliamentarian, he knew well that he and his political class had no, or at best a very shaky, future under a democracy. In contrast, Bacha Khan’s was a completely secure political position. It was impossible to democratically uproot him from his constituency. He had voters, volunteers and diehard loyalists.Six months after the death of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Prime Minister Liaqat Ali Khan moved the Objective Resolution in the Constituent Assembly that introduced Islam as the raison d’être of the new country. Religion was pitched against ones linguistic and cultural identity and faith was made to rival political interests.By declaring the entire country as one constituency and setting ones perceived Islamic credentials as the only qualification, Liaqat Ali Khan tried to create a constituency for his class – the politically insecure Muslim elite that had migrated from the Muslim minority provinces of India. But ironically, they could not sustain their hold on this constituency for long. Within a decade they were outdone by the Army in the game they had pioneered. They were declared incapable of defending the citadel of Islam. The army took over the ‘responsibility’ of keeping the country united in the name of Islam and secure from the conspirators who had strong democratic constituencies in the country.
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