Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012
Posted: 24 Oct 2012 23:28
Ramana - in that 98 cruise missile attack, several ISI officers were also killed. Hamid Gul was mighty pissed and fulminated a lot.
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Now there will be regular fires in factories working for western companies and the number of victims dead in the fire would be bloated to get more compensation!darshhan wrote:Saala bahut jaada de diya in pakis ko.Rohit_K wrote:German textile retailer Kik puts value on a Pakistani: Offers $1,930/- per Victim in Karachi Factory Fire
Are you sure you are not referring to the Kunduz airlift in Nov 2001? That was when the pakis evacuated all the top AQ and Taliban commanders including their own people to Pakistan just before Kunduz was taken by the NA.ramana wrote:RamaY, To add to shiv's data:
- On Sept 12th, 2001 Rawalpindi airspace was closed to allow a series of flights from Kabul. Speculation was its the "clown jewels" being brought back from "strategic depth" provided by Taliban.
The Republican challenger also called foreign aid a potential “pathway” to “get the Muslim world to be able to reject extremism on its own.”
Jim is right that Romney’s comments have more to do with drawing a nominal distinction between himself and Obama. Nevertheless he seems to misunderstand the purpose of aid to Pakistan, which is primarily about maintaining some measure of diplomatic leverage over a perennially unstable nuclear power, rather than democratic evangelism or promoting humanitarianism. Here are a few facts, for context:\
Since 9/11 Pakistan has received a little more than $25 billion in military and nonmilitary aid, according to the Congressional Research Service. Last year they received $3.5 billion, about 1.7 percent of Pakistan’s GDP, slightly down from the 2010 high-water mark of $4.4 billion. In 2014 the $1.5 billion in annual nonmilitary aid allocated by John Kerry and Richard Lugar’s 2009 Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act runs out.That aid program was already conditioned by the certification of certain things, among them democratic reforms and the assurance that the aid can be effectively disbursed, which is decidedly not a given. In September, Secretary of State Clinton waived those in the interest of national security (something Bush did multiple times during his presidency).So even if there were reason to believe that foreign aid can act as a sort of carrot to incentivize democratic reforms or free speech protections or whatever Romney’s idea of civil society is, there’s an unbroken bipartisan history of waiving such conditions.
nachiket wrote:Are you sure you are not referring to the Kunduz airlift in Nov 2001? That was when the pakis evacuated all the top AQ and Taliban commanders including their own people to Pakistan just before Kunduz was taken by the NA.ramana wrote:RamaY, To add to shiv's data:
- On Sept 12th, 2001 Rawalpindi airspace was closed to allow a series of flights from Kabul. Speculation was its the "clown jewels" being brought back from "strategic depth" provided by Taliban.
Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, who is a "proclaimed offender" in the Benazir Bhutto assassination case, on Wednesday announced that he will contest the upcoming general elections from Chitral, a constituency in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.
Musharraf, 69, made the announcement while addressing the elders of Chitral via a video-link from Dubai, the Express Tribune reported. The former President who ruled Pakistan between 1999 and 2008, had formed a party called the All Pakistan Muslim League (APML) and had vowed to end his self-exile to contest the elections in the country.
If true, then a terror strike against India is imminent.Anujan wrote:grapevine says that LeT has been losing cadres to HUM and JeM after they got political ambitions and formed duffer e bakistan council.
Dont believe anything that presidential candidates say during debates. Obama's strategy is to equate Romney with George Bush -- who remains one of America's most unpopular president. What did George Bush do? Lowered taxes on wealthy, removed regulations and went to war on a drop of a hat.Jhujar wrote:http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... sonianism/
Romney’s Foreign Aid Wilsonianism
Ah, the famous Jyoti Malhotra who had warned 2 days back about how a new India would avenge the 2002 riots if Modi becomes PM ( return to darkness article).Our host and friend, journalist Jyoti Malhotra, was visibly squirming because we were getting late for a reception in Amritsar.
She just exploded when an official opened the toilet bag of one of the women parliamentarians, as if suspecting her of trying to smuggle drugs.
"You can't do that! For God's sake, they are parliamentarian guests," she protested.
Jyoti wanted the customs officials to show some courtesy but they were adamant -- as if to prove to us how strong the Indian bureaucracy was. It was funny that at one stage we, the Pakistanis, were trying to arbitrate between the two warring Indians!
After layers of multiple checks we thought we were finally through, only to be stopped again at the last gate, get out, and register ourselves separately with the -- equally infamous -- (east) Punjab 'pullas'.
Why does Romney get a pass when the Ayatollahs dont for what they shoot out of their backsides? We should be as prepared as Israel is for the Ayatollahs.Anujan wrote:Dont believe anything that presidential candidates say during debates. Obama's strategy is to equate Romney with George Bush -- who remains one of America's most unpopular president. What did George Bush do? Lowered taxes on wealthy, removed regulations and went to war on a drop of a hat.Jhujar wrote:http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... sonianism/
Romney’s Foreign Aid Wilsonianism
Romney is trying to argue two things (1) He is not Obama (2) He is not George bush.
It is very important that he takes "Peaceful unkil" avatar to reassure the public that he wont go wage war and get US into another 10 year war. So he puts forth stupid ideas like "I will export kittens to Pakistan, they will see harmless peaceful cats and become all lovable onleee".
Boss, I may have missed this article, where is it?sum wrote: Ah, the famous Jyoti Malhotra who had warned 2 days back about how a new India would avenge the 2002 riots if Modi becomes PM ( return to darkness article).
Watch for this disgusting spectacle enacted many times as Amank ki tamsahs goes on and on. Indian DDM, WKKS, and other assorted cowards will be going into a self flagellating tizzy at the slightest perceived offence to their TSP RAPE counterparts. Can you imagine the field day these perverts would have if say Modi or an RSS spokesman or BJP politician were to say anything against Aman Ki Tamasha?It was funny that at one stage we, the Pakistanis, were trying to arbitrate between the two warring Indians!
habal wrote:To understand her you need to be part of DB grapevine.
Pakistan now occupies the last spot in the global gender gap index among the countries of Asia-Pacific region, according to the Global Gender Gap Report 2012 published by the World Economic Forum on Wednesday.
Pakistan lost the 133rd position due to a decline in perceived wage equality. Pakistan lags behind the global average on all the four sub-indexes — economic participation and opportunity, educational attainment, health and survival, and political empowerment. It now occupies the last spot in the region.
Countries such as Iceland, Bolivia, Switzerland, Saudi Arabia, Lesotho, Yemenand others have made much progress relative to their own situation in 2006.
It's called 'paid content'Anujan wrote:I am yet to comprehend any article that Jyoti Malhotra has ever written. I have no idea how that lady became a writer.
Graffiti in urban centres of Balochistan’s Makran Division has completely changed in two years. “Long live independent Balochistan” and “Down with pro-parliament parties” have replaced pronouncements about separatist leaders being traitors.
All that has changed; the separatists are no longer in hiding. They are, in fact, so visible and strong that now they can force any town to close down whenever they want.
In far-flung rural parts of Makran Division, the separatists are virtually running a parallel government.
Jyoti Malhotra is a brainless woman. This is what she said about Sha Rukh Khan's frisking in the USAOur host and friend, journalist Jyoti Malhotra, was visibly squirming because we were getting late for a reception in Amritsar.
She just exploded when an official opened the toilet bag of one of the women parliamentarians, as if suspecting her of trying to smuggle drugs.
"You can't do that! For God's sake, they are parliamentarian guests," she protested.
Jyoti wanted the customs officials to show some courtesy but they were adamant -- as if to prove to us how strong the Indian bureaucracy was.
How abut "Sure India has its immigration rules and I Jyoti Malhotra, a toothless ranting journalist did not inform the officials in advance and put up a big drama to impress my Paki guests".Still, the question here is not so much about whether India and Indians should protest formally and informally the US systematic questioning of India's VIPs such as (Shah Rukh Khan, in 2009 and now), frisking and the request to remove shoes, coat, etc (former president Abdul Kalam in 2009) or simply a "pat-down' (former Indian ambassador to the US Meera Shanker last year), but what American protocol expects in return.
Sure, the US has its rules and especially after the 9/11 incidents, some of their immigration procedures border on the offensive. The rest of the world has understood the extraordinary nature of these procedures since 9/11.
Recent observations on TV by Pakistan’s aspiring Prime Minister, Imran Khan, on the Hamid Mir show, represent this dangerous equivocation. As an Indian I would worry about his reluctance to say, despite being asked repeatedly, that it is wrong for Pakistanis to go across into Afghanistan for jihad. Transferred to the Indian context, it means that he would approve activities of the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba in India assessed by many as the biggest terrorist threat to India. This is the mindset of someone who is described as an emancipated liberal.
Real sad day indeed. This is active sabotage is nothing else if all that is written is true ( and i cant think of why it will be false)sum wrote:A backroom deal has been concluded through questionable intermediaries with close ties to Pakistan.
Since November 2011, militaries of both India and Pakistan have held several rounds of talks to boost confidence-building measures. These meetings were held in Dubai (20-21 November 2011), Bangkok (23-25 February 2012) and Lahore (23-25 September 2012). Additionally, working group meetings took place in Chiang Mai (21 April 2012) and Palo Alto (30-31 July 2012). In the Track 2 round held in Lahore in September 2012, India and Pakistan signed an agreement to demilitarise Siachen despite the grave reservations of some members of the Indian delegation. The members who expressed reservations include a former ambassador, a former intelligence officer and two former officers from the Army and the Navy.
The decision to demilitarise, or rather withdraw from Siachen has been taken arbitrarily at the highest political level disregarding strong objections by successive army chiefs including the current chief, General Bikram Singh. He has even made a statement to the media opposing demilitarisation of the glacier.Holy %^#&@The Indian Government briefed the Lahore Track 2 team to keep in mind the Army’s stand that further talks would only be taken up after positions of both sides were authenticated on ground. The Indian Army’s concerns have clearly been ignored. The strategic importance of the Saltoro Ridge, especially in relation to Gilgit-Baltistan, Northern Areas, Shaksgam and Wakhan Corridor has been systematically obfuscated by a Government that retains far too much of power over electronic and print media. The Government has carried out a massive public relations exercise using gullible television channels to transmit the message that Siachen has no strategic significance. At one point, one so-called expert claimed that India holds the Karakoram Pass, which is a blatant lie. National dailies have refused to publish articles highlighting the enormous strategic disadvantage of withdrawing from Siachen. Similarly, this issue has not been debated on national television. There are rumours that the media is muffling any discussion on Siachen on the instructions of the Government.
The selection of Indian delegates who visited Lahore was incongruous. None of them had served in Siachen, not even the six army officers who were part of the delegation. The negotiating team did not bother to visit the conflict zone despite months of parleys with Pakistani officials at beautiful locations. Two former military officers in the delegation are infamous for their political connections. It is rumored that the Air Force four star officer is to be rewarded with an ambassadorship or governorship while the one star army officer is to be given another bag of carrots for towing the official line.
I am not sure if the article you are quoting is from any reputable or credible source. It could even be a Paki plant (along the lines of Obama going to apologize immediately articles that keep popping up). In any case, here is another article:Defence minister A K Antony, responding during the debate on defence matters in Rajya Sabha, even went to the extent of saying that nobody should expect dramatic results from the 13 th round of defence secretary-level Siachen talks to be held in Pakistan in the second week of June.
In the last few days, people across (read Pakistan Army chief Gen Ashfaq Kayani) are saying we (India) have hardened our position. Some are saying we have softened our position. We are neither hardening, nor softening...We are standing firmly where we were,'' said Antony.
"The two sides have to first agree on authentication of respective troop positions on the 110-km Actual Ground Position Line (AGPL) along the Saltoro Ridge, then delineation on map and ground'' and subsequently the final demarcation of the agreed border. It's our long-standing considered position,'' said Antony.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/aliens/37526 ... himalayas/Indian and Chinese authorities have confirmed the existence of an underground UFO base in the Himalayas. Kongka La is the low ridge pass in the Himalayas in the disputed India-China border area in Ladakh. The Chinese held northeastern part is known as Aksai Chin and Indian South West is known as Ladakh. This was where Indian and Chinese army fought major war in 1962. The area is one of the least accessed area in the world and by agreement the two countries do not patrol that part of the border.
“India has found an active UFO base in The Himalayas. We are working with China and the U.N. to discuss how to handle this alien incursion,” said Indian Defense Minister, A.K. Antony. “We do not want our people to be alarmed. We are confident we can contain this threat from an alien culture.”
The fools even watch those movies that we don't even care about. I reckon lot of mediocre directors and scriptwriters of bollywood are doing ok just because of low IQ pakis.partha wrote:hehe..this is the third review of Aiyaa movie by different people on etribune site
http://tribune.com.pk/story/455177/movi ... m-in-pain/
It looks like all they do is watch Bollywood movies, crib about Bollywood and then watch more Bollywood movies.