Operation Sindoor - Post Conflict Analysis

[Lisa]

^The above is now new,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TERCOM

More easily available, yes.

[ShauryaT]

Bottom line: China has quantity, and China has economic staying power, both of which Pakistan never had. A war that drags on for months, and in which Indian cities, towns, highways etc. are visibly degraded (in the eyes of Indian citizens) while reciprocal damage against China (even if it happens) is never seen-- imagine what our oppositions parties will do with that as a resource for political messaging.

We have to think very hard on the ways we can make China hurt worse than it can hurt us. Unlike with Pakistan, time and size are not on our side against that enemy. Again, I'm not trying to be defeatist or say it can't be done, just pointing out the need for realism.

All true, yet a few things are on our side. China has a huge logistics tail to get its assets and use them from the high plateau. This logistics infrastructure would be prone to disruption, along with a toll the high altitude takes on men and material, for sustained operations. China has its main eastern sea board threats to contend with and is rather unlikely to prioritize the threat from India, primarily due to the fact that China already sits pretty with its occupation of Tibet and banks on India not being a revisionist. The ROI from such a venture for China does not add up, except in an attempt to hinder India's rise. If the above remains true, then I have posited, who is the hunter and the hunted on the LAC is a matter of debate. With about half a dozen or less passes ideal for brigade+ level of modernized forces, the only opportunity for China is to conduct a hybrid war, where the disparities in capacities manifest. While we work on reducing this capacity disparity, the one capacity that we ought to invest in is the ability to inflict damage on the eastern sea board, as a means of deterrence for mischief on the LAC. It means LR bombers, use of ballistic missiles in a non-strategic role along with other missiles and investments into a truly formidable SSN fleet. I do not think we have the capacity to invest into being a continental and a maritime power together. We cannot do it all and hence hard choices should be made. My leanings are towards offensive capacities in the maritime domain and defensive for the continental domain.

[sanjaykumar]

However instead of offensive operations on the eastern seaboard from 2500 km away, India needs to base it’s arsenal 150-200 km away.

[Amber G.]

Indian Ambassador to Russia Vinay Kumar says:

The first outcome of the visit is that there is full understanding of the threat that terrorism emanating from Pakistan poses to the larger international community, not only India. Second, there is a complete understanding that this threat needs to be tackled... It has been stated by Russian officials yesterday that the fight has to be joined, and there is unflinching support for the fight against terrorism. There is also an understanding that it cannot be business as usual and that there is a need to take a tough stand. While we all want this problem to be resolved through political and diplomatic means, India has the right to defend itself if Pakistan does not stop using terrorism as a state policy."

[Amber G.]

"Ek ko caliphate ka nostalgia hai, doosre ko Kashmir ka obsession—yeh dosti hum nahi todenge"

Ankara’s sharp tongue and soft spot for Islamabad might just qualify for an honorary spot in Pakistan’s defence budget. As Munir cozied up under the Bosphorus-- Is this brotherhood, or just another episode of “Enemies of my enemy get VIP seating”.

(Turkiye is the 1st foreign visit of top Pakistani civilian & military leadership since attacking India earlier this month. India confirmed the usage of Turkish drones (wreckage with India) in the Pakistani attack. Since then ties have been on a free fall between India & Turkiye).

[RCase]

^^^
Has Failed Marshall Ass Manure donned civilian clothes after his promotion to become Fcuker of Mulk to represent Pakistan in meet with Turkey?

[bala]

If you are wondering about Kirana Hills, Aadi Achint does a deep dive into the topic.

Aadi Achint claims that the Kirana hills is a joint US/Pak nuke program. US Bulletin of Atomic scientists, sept 11, 2023 has an article on Pak land nuclear weapons. It says, Sargodha was an area during 1983- 1990 multiple (24) sub critical tests were conducted under A Q Khan using the name Kirana-1. TELs were deployed in the complex. India has known about this activity for a long time. A recent dawn article claims drones fell near the kirana hills on May 10, 2025. So clearly India hit the hills. India used steep dive vesion of brahmos.

An american aircraft B350 AMS twin propeller, small aircraft is a nuclear sniffer. This was sold to pak land in 2010 to PAF by Americans. America gave 100 million to Pak land during 2007 - 2013 to safeguard their nuclear weapons. This craft was flown by the PAF to ascertain whether there was nuclear radiation due to the strike by India. BTW India's war plan against Pak land actually starts from Sargodha and kirana hills.

Aadi also has an aircraft loss picture of Pak land:

* 2 JF 17 (1 air to air, 1 on takeoff)
* 2 F-16 (1 air to air, 1 ground)
* 1 Mirage 3
* 1 Saab 2000
* 1 IL-78 refueler
* 1 C-130 transport

His estimate is 15 B loss for Pak land. The Indian Army has devasted Leepa Valley in PoK.
BTW in OIC Indonesia, Egypt and Bahrain blocked Pak land's anti India move in Jakarta.

Pakistan Kirana Hills & Indian Airforce, Pakistan Army is Hiding, US Pakistan Nuke Program

[Luxtor]

^^^
Has Failed Marshall Ass Manure donned civilian clothes after his promotion to become Fcuker of Mulk to represent Pakistan in meet with Turkey?

That failed fcuker is getting ready to declare himself president of fcukedupstan and throw the Sharif brothers in prison, like mushyrat did after the Kargil arse whipping. That's why the civilian clothing.

[Luxtor]

P.S. ....is dimran khan still is prison? He's been awfully quiet for months now.

[ramana]

Grok summary of Akashteer

https://x.com/i/grok/share/4HDJElbGRw0uHIvIDiHCbFXBx

[RCase]

The RESULTS from the missile firing on Muridke! See for yourself the power of the missiles fired! Reporter walks through the debris of Admin Block, Mosque and shows an adjacent house that was shattered. Clean holes in the roof where the missile penetrated. Clock stopped at 12:25 at time of impact. Shrapnel from missile (hope the experts can figure out which one). Reporter keeps apologizing for walking with his shoes on and asking for forgiveness from Allah Talla. Interviews a couple of guys. At least one of them looks like a jehadi. Keeps insisting this was a civilian place that was a 'dispensary and educational institution'. Due to FATF, the Pak Govt. 'cleansed' the place and made into a civilian establishment! Overall, enjoy guys! Good to see the damage assessment and the truth slowly coming out!

After India’s Attack on Muridke: Ground Reality Exposed

In this exclusive live report, senior analyst Habib Akram visits the mosque in Muridke that was targeted by India’s missile strike on the night of May 6-7. He reveals the actual destruction and exposes the truth behind India’s claims of killing terrorists. Watch the full ground reality and stay informed.

[RCase]

Bahawalpur destruction tour. Seems like it was a Brahmos. Debris shows Russian/ English signage - 'detachable handling assembly'. Clean hit is the middle of the roof (Damn, the accuracy is wonderful). Stupid reporter claims that Modi (fascist, hindutava, RSS...) might have destroyed the mosque, but Allah's name is still intact on the side walls of the roof. Full of Paki Islamic propagandu. Shows up the papers of a student 'Ali Raza' writing about 'The rights of non-Muslims in Islamic society' , that too in English! Wow, madrasa education standards in Pakistan is pretty high and thought provoking! Enjoy the power of the Brahmos. #Let the Brahmos Fly!

Modi Targets Bahawalpur’s Subhan Mosque

In this episode of "Live With Jami" (EP80), journalist Ajmal Jami provides an on-the-ground report from Bahawalpur, shedding light on the aftermath of the attack and the emotional toll on the local community. He also discusses the broader implications of the escalating tensions between the two nuclear-armed neighbors.

[ashthor]

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/morn ... s-and-more

Pakistan's Nur Khan Airbase Hit Harder Than Initially Reported

New satellite images from The Intel Lab reveal that there was extensive damage to Pakistan’s Nur Khan airbase in Rawalpindi following India’s strikes during Operation Sindoor. An entire complex, a part of which was hit, has now been demolished, suggesting the damage to sustained was more extensive than previously thought.

[bala]

The interviewer remarks that AM Bharti mentioned that India did not hit a nuclear site. Tom says this was sarcasm, and furthermore says that India - Pak have a nuclear list in which Kirana Hills is not mentioned. Tom also believes that Pak stored all their so called nuke devices in Kirana Hills, which was hit by India in multiple places. Effectively Pak land has lost all such devices.

‘Pakistan Can’t Deploy…’: War Expert Exposes Islamabad’s Nuclear ‘Secret’ After India’s Op Sindoor

Military expert Tom Cooper slams Pakistan’s missile response to India's anti-terror strikes. Cooper explains why Pakistan's nuclear deterrence is now useless, how India neutralized key nuclear facilities, and why Islamabad’s actions were reckless and unprofessional. Cooper also reveals chilling details about India’s precise retaliation and Pakistan’s failed escalation tactics.

[Bharadwaj]

Murid is also damaged. Detresfa porkis ka pura nikhaal diyaa. These shameless beggars have nowhere to hide.

https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1926820593942298752 ---> This report spotlights damage at Pakistan’s Murid Airbase - the Indian Air Force strike has caused structural damage to a Command & Control building, a section of the roof has collapsed as well, likely causing internal damage.

[Aditya_V]

Do we have pics of what was hit on PAF base in Skardu, it was mentioned in one of the IAF Briefings

[Hriday]

See the video of missile interception in the link.
https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/192669 ... b4VjA&s=19

This is a Fatah-2 SRBM.

Unlike Fat 1,F 2 has a two pulse srm.The 2nd pulse is used close to the target in order to carry our evasive manoeuvres and also to increase terminal vel.

You can clearly see that the solid motor is thrusting.

Direct hit by our Akash.

[Hriday]

I had earlier posted a video of a Pakistani fighter jet crash in Kashmir. But India's official statement by Air Marshal A K Bharti is that we don't have the Pakistan's fighter jet wreckage inside India. So ultimately it means India is now not telling the truth?

That gives a hope that we need not worry about Pakistan nuclear threat. I remember reading a few Bharat Rakshak articles stating the same that Pakistan don't possess sufficient nuclear weapons to deter India.

https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/192656 ... UTOig&s=19

Pampore.

The wreckage of the shot down JF-17 is burning.

There were many instances of our journalists talking about PAF jets crashing in J&K.

Before someone says that DG Air said that there no wreckages on our side, he also said that we didn’t strike Kirana Hills. But we did.

As per news reports India had denied the existence of any Pakistan fighter jet wreckage. See the link below.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 082943.cms

...
Bharti said at a press briefing. “We have downed a few Pakistani planes,” he added, while declining to specify the number, citing ongoing technical assessments. “Pakistani aircraft were prevented from entering Indian airspace, so we don’t have wreckage, but we are certain of the hits.”
...
At the end of the briefing, Bharti reaffirmed, “We are prepared. We have acted with restraint and precision. But any further provocation will be met with full force.”

[Hriday]

Map of Kirana hills nuclear and conventional weapons storage site by Jaidev Jamval shared by Arihant Ray in X. Tunnel entrances, guard posts, location of Indian missile strike, etc can be seen.

[SSridhar]

Is Fateh-2 a North Korean MLRS that straddles an SRBM definition?

From the video it appears that it is Akash that is thrusting, not the incoming Paki missile. Akash thrusts all the way to the interception point. The incoming missile is in a free fall, terminal ballistic phase.

I would also doubt if it would be Fateh-2 because it may not be in production, unless it has been imported from NoKo.

[Vayutuvan]

Bahawalpur destruction tour.
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Enjoy the power of the Brahmos #Let the Brahmos Fly!

Mogambo bahut khush hua. Both videos are a must watch.

[Cyrano]

What one would expect to see is a lot of mangled bodies of jihadis and blood splattered all over. While some could have vaporised when the missile hit, in terms of sheer number of jihadis hoorified Balakot was perhaps more bang for the buck. But as the good general said it's their job to count the body bags!

[A_Gupta]

The metal debris found in Pampore, Kashmir is of a Mirage add-on fuel tank.

[vaibhavs]

The metal debris found in Pampore, Kashmir is of a Mirage add-on fuel tank.

Anything on the Bhatinda crash, could it be a Rafale? Not that it matters since we absolultely smoked the inbred piglets this time around.

[Amber G.]

EAM Jaishankar’s interview with German newspaper FAZ:

Q:

Do we have America to thank for the ceasefire, as Washington portrays it?

A:

The truce was agreed between the DGMOs of India and Pakistan directly. The morning before, we effectively hit and incapacitated Pakistan’s main airbases and air defence systems. So I thank the Indian military, because it was its action that made Pakistan say: We are ready to stop.

[chetak]

[Manish_P]

^ why not? It has worked so far...

[Deans]

^ why not? It has worked so far...

Yes, what the journos don't understand, is there is a difference between the world they would ideally like to see and the reality we
have to live with.

[A_Gupta]

Anything on the Bhatinda crash, could it be a Rafale? Not that it matters since we absolultely smoked the inbred piglets this time around.

The photo from Bhatinda purporting to be the tail of a Rafale is almost certainly a fake. If it was a Rafale there would be no reason to fake it.

[ramana]

AGupta Good logic!

RCase please post more videos as you find them

[nandakumar]

^ why not? It has worked so far...

Yes, what the journos don't understand, is there is a difference between the world they would ideally like to see and the reality we
have to live with.

I think the article is meant to nudge/prod the Government into taking a principled stand against voting along with the 'Big' nations when resolution for sanctioning additional financial package of relief to Pakistan. Currently the Government goes along with consensus of the West when IMF Board resolution comes up for voting. Granted, we don't have the voting strength to veto a proposal. However at some stage we must.

[RCase]

Bahawalpur Destruction Tour.

Usual propagandu of only women and children were the targets. Indian missiles have a way of only picking out women and children, but never any men. This is a walking tour from a different perspective. Habitation quarters totally smashed. In this video one can see scraps of clothes, but pretty much it is bricks and broken windows and doors. The 'house' has been completely flattened. Intel must have figured out this particular building housed some HVTs. The complex is pretty sprawling and in the background one can see the mosque and now the Pakis have cordoned off that area even for these press guys. Interesting to note that they interview a guy who says they were just common folks with a backdrop of a bunch of police (or is it Pak Fauj?).
The missile debris is neatly laid out on a lawn and is meant for propagandu. No cordoning off the missile debris.

India Attack update | Bahawalpur’s Subhan Mosque

[bala]

In this YT by Lt. Gen P R Shankar (retd) provides snippets of people in Pak land providing some damaging comments against Pak land and their army. Take a look. Also many pictures of damage are shown.

1. A senator in Pak parliament openly dissing the Pak defence minister's comment
2. A woman who has relatives in PAF saying that drones from India are swarming the place
3. Another dude saying Lahore's AD system was taken out, the heart of Pak is Lahore and effectively Pak has a heart attack.
4. Another dude is openly panicked due to the incessant drones/missiles of India
5. Islamabad airport was overwhelmed with rich people wanting to flee Pak
6. There is satellite photo of the devastation of Jacobabad (where F-16s are housed)
7. Another satellite photo of Sargodha
8. Entrance to Kirana hills (10 km from Sargodha) hit photo.
9. Rahim Yar Khan cratered runway
10. Bolari hangar damaged
11. Muridke
12. SH-15 artillery gun which failed big time

SHOULD I BUY A CHINESE WEAPON SYSTEM?



When Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan sometime back, China fired a bunch of missiles. The report during those times was that the missiles were inaccurate. Since then China has not fired another missile towards Taiwan, they fired some into the eastern seaboard of China. In May-June 2024 a Chinese nuclear submarine sank, wall street journal reported. Many other nations using chinese equipment have reported mal-function of chinese equipment. The Chinese tanks in tank demo in Russia lost a wheel.

BTW Lt. Gen Shankar openly said this: what India did to Pak in Sindoor, India can do this to China.

[pravula]

Bahawalpur Destruction Tour.

There is no trace of cement or even mud on most of those bricks Most of them have a clean brand mark!!

[RCase]

Bahawalpur Destruction Tour - Hospital Visit.

Same annoying guy who is the reporter. Just ignore his rants about only children and females and anti India diatribe. According to this doctor - 37 injured (all happened to be minor injuries). 14 dead on arrival, comprising of 3 children, 8 wimmens (one of whom was pregnant) and only 3 men. 33 have been discharged. Walk through in ward shows only two patients. One a young boy and another a female. The boy doesn't seem to have any lacerations or obvious wounds. His aunt says he is studying in the madrasa and speaks in rural Punjabi accent. (I was waiting for the boy to be speaking in fluent English... remember the prior video where this same reporter zoomed into a term paper written in English discussing the nuances of the rights of non-muslims living under Islamic rule ). The kid apparently fainted due to the explosion boom. His brother walked away with no injuries. The woman patient is supposed to have head injuries. (Maybe the docs on the forum can comment on this to educate this kaffir). See if you can catch the reporter have a quick word with the 'doctor' at the end. It almost feels like 'Thanks dude for playing the part'. Then he proceeds to speak with the Dy. Commissioner of Bahawalpur. He heard a few missiles strike at 12:35 am. (Not sure if the prior video showed masjid clock stuck at 12:25). Rushed to site and was about 500 m away from the site of initial strikes. Fourth missile hits after 18 min, but the grace of Allah nothing happens to these rescuers. Also implies that the strike was meant to take out the rescuers who had rushed to the initial strike scene. Finally, meets an autorickshaw driver outside the hospital and sure enough, Abdul is full of jazba to go do Ghazwa-e-Hind.

India Midnight Strikes: 4 Deadly Missiles Hit Subhan Mosque in Bahawalpur



Questions to the gurus...

1. If you are 500 m from the impact of a missile, wouldn't debris fly out to that distance? The TFTA Dy. Commissioner guy seems to have walked out of the shower, with no hint of even a scratch or trauma, even though he was less than 500 m from the impact site on that night.
2. A missile blast like this should have had more people in the hospital with shrapnel injuries. The 'patients' shown seem apparently untouched. No bandages and wounds visible.
3. The place has more police than visible doctors and nurses.
4. The ward is thronged by press guys with cameras and police than medical personnel.
5. I did not see enough equipment for a hospital, even for a ward.
6. One doesn't see a throng of ordinary people whose kin might be admitted to the hospital. Very orderly set of people just going about a regular day.
7. For a blast of these magnitude, 33 discharges out of 37 admissions this quick seems very suspicious. One would expect quite a few to have severe injuries.
8. How did the Dy. Commissioner know that an attack was coming to Bahawalpur and anticipating it?
9. The outside of the hospital (Operation Theater Complex) with just one lazy autorickshaw, parked police van and no ambulances or hustle and bustle seems a bit out of whack.

[RCase]

Bahawalpur Destruction Tour.

There is no trace of cement or even mud on most of those bricks Most of them have a clean brand mark!!

Fauji Cement - Leaves not a trace! Paki technology of invisible cement where the money goes directly to the jernails.

[Hriday]

https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/192082 ... WOxCQ&s=19

40N6 has a 400 km range.

40N6E has a 380 km range.

What’s significant is that this is a 40N6 missile. Not the export variant 40N6E.

Note that E is missing after 40N6. This is the same missile that Russia uses and not the downgraded export variant.

This took down the Erieye.

See the pictures in the link.
I guess since India is making great progress in missiles Russia sold us the best version available. We have AESA seekers for our MRSAM missile. The only thing missing for us or not reported is the pencil thin beam data uplink to avoid jamming and the ability to compare and select the target radar reflection from ground based radar and from the missile seeker that are part of S-400.

[drnayar]

Anything on the Bhatinda crash, could it be a Rafale? Not that it matters since we absolultely smoked the inbred piglets this time around.

The photo from Bhatinda purporting to be the tail of a Rafale is almost certainly a fake. If it was a Rafale there would be no reason to fake it.

Shouldn't the French be doing PR for their rafale instead of us

[Aditya_V]

https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/1927256914443858398

This is the crash site of a Saab 2000 Erieye in Dingra, Gujarat, Pakistan.

Shot down by our S-400.

Looks like the Pakis put the video on 8 May saying Indian Drone

https://x.com/PkMilitaryclub/status/1920212778750529862

There were Pakistani Twitter accounts noting a huge bang and crash on the Night of May 8-9th at the location but Paki media refused to cover it.

[vsunder]

Gulermak is a Turkish construction company with a large footprint in India in the Metro tunneling business. I was wondering why there was no oversight on them as soon as Sindoor started and in fact remarked to several that there will be an issue. Now comes this news that the Gulermak officials have fled from Kanpur where there were doing the tunneling for Line 2 of the Metro as a joint venture with SAM India. They are 80 crores in arrears with unpaid bills. At least 3 TBMs are active on Line 2 Gomati, Parvati and Saraswati. It is unclear now how the project will be completed and if the tunneling part will have to be retendered. With this Gulermak which is a major presence in Metro building in India is finished in India and will be blacklisted.

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