Re: The Curious Case of Daood Gilani alias David Headley & co
Posted: 17 Dec 2009 10:57
STRATFOR is clearly trying to protect American interests and prevent potential embarrassments.
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Come to think of it, it seems like they even had access to Bhatt Jr. So everybody on this side of the border is fair game!!RayC wrote: Brinda Karat raised a pointed question. If India US relationship is that great, how come they can interrogate Kasab and we cannot interrogate Headley?
"I can't comment on an ongoing investigation, but any suggestion that this individual worked for the CIA is flat wrong," CIA spokesperson Marie E Harf said when specifically asked about Headley and his links with CIA.
"Rana's visa papers have been found. We are tracing those of Headley," Minister of State for External Affairs Shashi Tharoor told mediapersons
English translation: Headley never applied for Visa, most probably traveled on Indian passport to IndiaSSridhar wrote:Shashi Tharoor on missing Visa papers"Rana's visa papers have been found. We are tracing those of Headley," Minister of State for External Affairs Shashi Tharoor told mediapersons
SSridhar ji,SSridhar wrote:The CG at Chicago claims that Rana submitted all documents and he was convinced it was a genuine case deserving multiple visit visa. Apparently, Rana applied and was granted visa in circa 2006. The CG should have extraordinary memory to remember these details 4 years later especially when the papers are now missing and there is no way for the CG to refer back to the file.
Besides, the CG's claim that Rana had become a Canadian citizen recently and hence his Pakiness would have disappeared is extremely naive and dangerous. Are these IFS officers for real ?
Another confusing thing for me is why is the present CG defending Rana's visa if he assumed the Chicago post only in 2007 and Rana was given visa in 2006 itself ? Am I missing something ?
New Delhi, Dec 17 (PTI) Investigators probing the role of David Headley in India have stumbled upon the evidence that a Pakistani woman stayed with the US terror suspect as his wife at Mumbai's Taj hotel, a target of Lashkar-e-Taiba militants during the 26/11 attacks last year.
While government sources refused to give any further information, well placed sources within the investigating agency do not rule out the possibility that the woman, who visited India in 2007 posing as Headley's wife, could have been used for carrying out recce of the targets.
This information was shared with the FBI which allegedly feigned ignorance about the same.
The woman travelled to Mumbai from Pakistan alone and stayed in the five star hotel for a few days before returning to the neighbouring country, the sources said.
photo seems to be Tahawwur Hussain Rana.Neela wrote:Atleast you have some place to vent your anger on this!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2 ... ..1&v=info
Agree of course. The question is how much did the Americans know, and when, and why is it that they are telling us about 6-8 months after the attacks and not earlier? If they suddenly have a spirit of India-US bhai chara, why arent they allowing direct access to him?Rangudu wrote:Ramana garu
But we still cannot jump to Unkil plotted 26/11 type claims. That is what I was cautioning against. Not that you have made any such claims, but some others have and I hope we can be more careful than that.
Headley and Rana may be big news in India, but in the US they are part of a small but worrying trend. In July 2009, a terrorist group of at least eight members was busted in North Carolina. Seven were arrested; the eighth had already vanished into Pakistan. In September, Najibullah Zazi — an Afghan-American who among other things drew inspiration from videos of Mumbai televangelist Zakir Naik — was arrested for conspiring to carry out bombings in New York.
These were not stray incidents — as the case of a Muslim US army doctor who went on a shooting spree at a Texas military base may have been. Like with Headley-Rana, they indicated meticulous planning and the structure of a terror organisation. They also suggested America’s economic and integrative model, exemplary as it is, does not necessarily firewall it from immigrants unable to throw off an innate extremism.
All these years America has believed such imperfect immigration to be a British problem. Indeed, the 800,000 strong British-Pakistanis have been regarded as the Western-located community most likely to produce jihadists.
At a Brookings Institution discussion in Washington, DC, shortly after the 26/11 attacks in Mumbai, intelligence veteran Bruce Riedel spoke of the “Pakistan-isation of al-Qaeda”: “More and more of its activities outside of the South Asian arena, and particularly in Western Europe, used Pakistanis, principally… [from] the United Kingdom, but also Pakistanis in Denmark, Germany, and Spain.” At the same event, strategic affairs specialist Stephen Cohen reckoned British Pakistanis were “al-Qaeda’s number one target today for recruiting individuals that can be used to target both the United Kingdom and the United States”.
Just curious , won't the hotels take in passport copies and if so Taj would have the records and the room number
Mahesh Butt keeps saying that Rahe-Ullu Butt approached the police voluntarily. But he fails to mention that his son's name was retrieved from Headley's email and authorities were already looking for Rahe-Ullu Butt. By voluntarily going to police, he saved some heat on his musharraf.Amber G. wrote:Also: From TOI:
Mahesh Bhatt, the baap of all the talkers
From the above linkKaran Dixit wrote:Mahesh Butt keeps saying that Rahe-Ullu Butt approached the police voluntarily. But he fails to mention that his son's name was retrieved from Headley's email and authorities were already looking for Rahe-Ullu Butt. By voluntarily going to police, he saved some heat on his musharraf.Amber G. wrote:Also: From TOI:
Mahesh Bhatt, the baap of all the talkers
TOI and Mah-e-sh Butt are the only ones who have cleared Rah-ul ButtWhile the allegations were quickly cleared,
Visa plot thickens
Pioneer News Service | New Delhi
Missing files: Consulate says none, Tharoor insists yes
http://www.dailypioneer.com/223553/Visa ... ckens.html
SMK is another rehman malikgandharva wrote:Visa plot thickens
Pioneer News Service | New Delhi
Missing files: Consulate says none, Tharoor insists yes
http://www.dailypioneer.com/223553/Visa ... ckens.html
Rangudu wrote:Ramana garu
With your post above regarding the analyses of experts such as B.Raman and some here dismissing "Headley = US Agent" theories, my request to is to consider the diference between claims such as (a) Unkil is cagey/reluctant to help India beyond a point and (b) CIA is behind 26/11
That Headley had something going with the DEA was known from Day-1. More recently it is becoming clear that other US agencies may have known more and may have known about 26/11. Also, given that Headley got deeply tied into LeT/ISI senior level network, calling him a double agent is reasonable.
But we still cannot jump to Unkil plotted 26/11 type claims. That is what I was cautioning against. Not that you have made any such claims, but some others have and I hope we can be more careful than that.
ramana wrote:BRF has had threads on intel ops almost since the inception. And BRF members commentaries on KRC report were lauded by the writers.
So folks here do know how hings work. WRT US and TSP nothing is infeasible. They have deep links.
Right now the terrorist rewarding Musharraf is getting paid for 'lectures' in some american university. Reflection of the disconnect in the minds of the educated illiterates. http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 10#p79021018 Dec 2009, 0854 hrs IST
Al-Qaeda and HuJI commander Ilyas Kashmiri has issued a chilling warning to India in a letter that he sent to terror outfits. Kashmiri says he knows the routes to send suicide bombing squads into the country. Ilyas Kashmiri, the face of the Al Qaeda in NWFP is now training guns on India. TIMES NOW has accessed the copy of Kashmiri's letter, sent to various jehadi outfits calling for more terror attacks in India -- underlining a new strategy to spread terror.
TIMES NOW's Pradeep Dutta reports, "There are intelligence inputs that with US turning heat on Ilyas Kashmiri, this military strategist is said to have shifted his base from Waziristan to Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) where he is trying to activate Lashkar and HuJI cadre to relaunch fidayeen attack in Jammu and Kashmir and other areas."
A copy of the letter signed by Ilyas Kashmiri which intelligence sleuths say is drafted in pure military language reads, "Mujahideen, some suicide persons launching be made, who should penetrate among enemies, sacrifice their lives for noble cause and kill many others."
Ilyas Kashmiri in this letter also claims of having knowledge of safer infiltration routes from where he can easily sneak in suicide squad meant for suicide mission in India. The letter reads, "I know many other routes through which I can easily and safely enter my suicide forces in different states of India. And for this purpose I do not need any permission of a ruler."
It is a threat that has security forces concerned and are bracing for the worst. To thwart any such attempts by the terror outfits the security forces in Jammu and Kashmir are already taking effective counter measures. It is because of these effective and vigilant steps that after Chinore encounter in the heart of Jammu City - in which fidayeen squad of Lashkar were involved - terrorists have failed to carry out any successful fidayeen attack.
Kashmirs was once a blue-eyed boy of President General Pervez Musharraf. He got a cash award from the president for slitting the throat of an Indian Army officer in the year 2000 but after 9/11, he became a suspected terrorist.
Reports say that Headley had a "traditional Muslim" wife in the US and girlfriends all over the world. This woman may be a girlfriend type posing as his wife...ramana wrote:Whats a Moroccan wife? is it like Dutch wife(like AQK) a marriage of convienence for this Headless guy?
This is getting ridiculous.
She likely has because Headley's India trips were for TSP.ramana wrote:What if she is his contact with the TSP agencies?
As far as we know there are no pictures of this Headley formerly known as Gilani. All pictures to date are sketches and shoddy passport pictures.Kasab’ said he was interrogated by four foreigners. “Chaar gore aye the. Usme ek Headley tha. [Four white people had come. One was Headley].” David Coleman Headley is now in the custody of the FBI for his alleged involvement in 26/11.
Karan Dixit wrote:Mahendra,
I noticed one more thing about Rahe-Ullu Butt. He says that he was under impression that Headley was CIA man on mission and yet this *** showed Headley around in Mumbai. Rahul Bhatt has provided logistical support to Headley. There is no doubt about that. For that alone he needs to be in prison till NIA clears him about "whether he knew the true identity of Headley".
Why is this anti-national not in prison?