Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Jan 04, 2014

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 05 Feb 2014 19:42

anupmisra wrote:A Bridge Too Far

A farce gone too far

Surrendering to terrorists never brings peace.

On the contrary, surrendering to terrorists will bring them such peace as they've never known before, they should try it mash'allah.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 05 Feb 2014 19:46

kish wrote:S..........................
Citizenship form to add questions on terrorism, genocide, military training

US Federal immigration authorities announced that they are scrapping the current form for immigrants to apply for US citizenship and replacing it in 90 days with a longer and more complex form that includes numerous new questions about the applicant’s links to terrorist groups, genocide, militias, prisons and military training....................

Question: If you remove those Bakistanis with "links to terrorist groups, genocide, militias, prisons and military training" from a list, any list, how many Bakistanis are left in the list?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Feb 2014 19:47

But, the Constitution is not one of the four or five that Pakistan has had since 1947. They want Shariah. Insh'a Alla'h, they will get it.

member_22799 · Post by **member_22799** » 05 Feb 2014 20:00

The Innovation that enhanced Pakistan's Position as a leader in Technology.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Feb 2014 22:35

And, out come the preconditions to the TTP-proTTP talks. ‘Without sharia, TTP won't accept talks’.

Negotiators representing Pakistani Taliban insurgents said Wednesday there was no chance of peace in Pakistan until the government embraces Islamic Sharia law and US-led forces withdraw completely from neighboring Afghanistan

“Without sharia law, the Taliban won't accept (the talks) even one per cent”

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 05 Feb 2014 22:40

They are merely asking for the enforcement of article 2B of the constitution.

2B.
Supremacy of the Quran and Sunnah
(1)
The Holy Quran and Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) shall be the supreme law of Pakistan.
Explanation:- In the application of this clause to the personal law of any Muslim sect, the expression "Quran and Sunnah" shall mean the Quran and Sunnah as interpreted by that sect.
(2)
The Federal Government shall be under an obligation to take steps to enforce the Shariah, to establish salat, to administer zakat, to promote amr bil ma'roof and nahi anil munkar (to prescribe what is right and to forbid what is wrong), to eradicate corruption at all levels and to provide substantial socio-economic justice, in accordance with the principles of Islam, as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.
(3)
The Federal Government may issue directives for the implementation of the provisions set out in clauses (1) and (2) and may take the necessary action against any state functionary for non-compliance of the said directives.

joygoswami · Post by **joygoswami** » 05 Feb 2014 23:09

Frankly I dont understand why Pa'akistan is not accepting the Law created by the all merciful. They are missing out an opportunity to become better than their kaffir neighbors atlast. The need of the hour is more islam, they are not very islamic right now. India should take some responsibility and make them more islamic. Future Pakistan could be beautiful like these pics below.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Feb 2014 00:01

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26027405

Ex-UKIP spokesman Mujeeb Bhutto 'was Pakistan gang leader'

Fellow gets caught. Gets political asylum claiming danger to life from pakistan. Then joins a political party in Britain condemning immigration.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Feb 2014 00:04

Anujan wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26027405

Ex-UKIP spokesman Mujeeb Bhutto 'was Pakistan gang leader'

Fellow gets caught. Gets political asylum claiming danger to life from pakistan. Then joins a political party in Britain condemning immigration.

I don't know whether this is ridiculous or funny. Maybe both. Bartania seems to have left behind its brain in one of its former colonies.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Feb 2014 04:25

Anujan wrote:Fellow gets caught. Gets political asylum claiming danger to life from pakistan. Then joins a political party in Britain condemning immigration.

He is against legal immigration (based on skills, education, capital inflows...). He is not against immigration for asylum seekers based on perceived persecution.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Feb 2014 04:41

By the by, good news. ‘Asiatic lion spotted in PoK national park’

An endangered subspecies of big cats has been spotted in a national park of PoK, much to the gladness of conservationists, a wildlife official claimed here on Tuesday.

Over the last five years, the wildlife department had been occasionally receiving reports about sighting of a lion by the residents or shepherds

However, international agencies have reported that the land of the pure does not have any lions in the wild. It is the same for tigers.

Critically endangered lion now found only in India
Tigers

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Feb 2014 04:51

^
Did badmash escape to PoK national park fearing coo?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 05:38

^He is a jackal, or a jackass or a bit of both (no insult to these intelligent and hard-working animals).

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Feb 2014 05:39

^
jackass you mean?

btw, I thought he was "Lion of Punjab"?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 05:42

partha wrote:^
jackass you mean?

btw, I thought he was "Lion of Punjab"?

partha, what an insult to Lala Lajpat Rai ?

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 06 Feb 2014 06:14

partha wrote:^
jackass you mean?

btw, I thought he was "Lion of Punjab"?

No, he is the loin of Panjab!

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 07:17

Self Determination - Kashmiris' Right: Nawaz Sharif - meena Menon, The Hindu

Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Wednesday said India should accept Kashmiris’ right to self-determination, and invited it to resolve the issue peacefully through dialogue.

Addressing a joint sitting of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir Assembly and Kashmir Council on Kashmir Solidarity Day in Muzaffarabad, Mr. Sharif said his government was ready to discuss all outstanding issues with India, including Kashmir. He invited India to engage in a “comprehensive sustained and result-oriented dialogue process.”

Unless the Kashmir issue was resolved, there would be uncertainty in the region, he said. He hoped India would respond positively to this invitation for a dialogue and fulfil the Kashmiri people’s aspirations to decide their fate. Fundamental rights and self-determination needed to be enforced, the Prime Minister said, adding the struggle of the Kashmiris was a reaction to the “atrocities” committed by Indian security agencies.

Bringing in the role of the international community, he said it could not be silent over the matter and Pakistan would continue to raise the issue until people got their rights.

Pakistan had initiated confidence-building measures to ease the plight of the Kashmiris, including trade across the Line of Control.

The government had proved its sincerity in 1998 and it again invited India for a dialogue to take things forward, Mr. Sharif said. Oppression and good ties could not go hand in hand {This is certainly a veiled nuclear threat}.

Mr. Sharif assured the Kashmiri people of Pakistan’s support and said the issue should be resolved in keeping with the United Nations resolutions.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 07:24

Rallies Mark Kashmir Solidarity Day - Meena Menon, The Hindu

Protest rallies and human chains accompanied by vociferous demands to free Kashmir from India marked Kashmir Solidarity Day on Wednesday.

In the capital, Jamaat-e-Islami, Difa-e-Pakistan Council and Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JUD) held separate rallies to protest the “atrocities” in Kashmir by Indian security agencies and demand that the Kashmiris be given the right of self-determination. “India ka ek iIaj, al Jihad al Jihad (only one solution for India and that's Jihad) “ shouted flag waving members of the JUD while speakers said that Kashmir could only be freed with a holy war. “India teri maut aayi, Lashkar aayi Lashkar aayi”(India your death has come, the fighters have come) screamed the modest crowd.

Abdullah Gul of the Anjuman Naujawan-e-Pakistan said there should be no trade or MFN status for India and it was time for the rise of Islamist forces. Dukhtaraan-e-Millat founder-chairperson Syed Asiya Andrabi, who addressed the JUD gathering on telephone, said India could capture Kashmir but not the hearts of its people. Kashmir can never be a part of India and she called on Pakistan to free it from “impure” India. She asked the Pakistan government to tell India that Kashmir was an integral part of Pakistan. Kashmir will be part of Pakistan, she declared.

The former ISI chief Lt. Gen. (retd.) Hamid Gul, said Kashmiris should be given the right to self-determination and they only had to choose between Pakistan and freedom. They will never opt to go with India, he said.

partha · Post by **partha** » 06 Feb 2014 07:45

SSridhar wrote:
partha wrote:^
jackass you mean?

btw, I thought he was "Lion of Punjab"?
partha, what an insult to Lala Lajpat Rai ?

SSji, let me correct my statement to reflect what exactly I meant - "I thought he was called "Lion of Punjab" by his supporters".

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 06 Feb 2014 08:36

As opposed to Badmash being the Lion of Pakjab , the fact is - Pakjab is in the Lien of Badmash.

Seriously , badmash owns a tame lion which used to be displayed in the rallies and jalsas of PML .
Maybe the a similar old lion owned by someone (many landlords keep tame Lions as pets in cages to show off their high H&D levels) was released into POK due to more and more unaffordability of meat in Pakiland.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 08:43

partha, I didn't mean you, I meant his supporters onlee.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Feb 2014 14:06

http://www.dawn.com/news/1085226/ttp-pe ... ian-attack

Apparently TTP's peshawar chief owned up to the hotel attack. He was ably assisted by Mast Gul.

Oldies would remember Mast Gul as the fella who was with the Hizbul Mujahideen and holed himself up in Charar-e-Sharif and set it on fire before escaping. Now he is upto some pious pursuits in Pakistan where he has joined the TTP in their Peshawar chapter.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 06 Feb 2014 14:46

What exactly does "Mast Gul" mean... Playful flower???

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 14:51

The resurgence of Mast Gul, the peace talks with TTP, JeM chief assembling his cadres in Muzzafarnagar after a gap of six years and delivering a fiery speech to them about India, the emerging denouement in Afghanistan are all pointing to J&K sooner than later.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 06 Feb 2014 15:30

partha wrote:^
Did badmash escape to PoK national park fearing coo?

partha Ji :

1. The PML(N) Chant is Sher Aya Sher Aya. Shere is Tiger. Lion is Sher E Babar ( I believe it means the One with the Mane)

2. In PML(N) Rallies they always exhibit the Tiger.

3. Pictures of Badmaash with his Tame / Chained Tiger

SSridhar wrote:The resurgence of Mast Gul, the peace talks with TTP, JeM chief assembling his cadres in Muzzafarnagar after a gap of six years and delivering a fiery speech to them about India, the emerging denouement in Afghanistan are all pointing to J&K sooner than later.

SSridhar Ji :

With all these going on our MMS along with those of the Congress-Neville Chamberlain Ilk still want Aman Ki Asha and providing Electricity, Gas etc. etc. to the Land of the Piure and Home of the Terrorists.

Cheers

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Feb 2014 16:16

‘Media ignoring Balochistan issue...’

I.A. Rehman, secretary general of the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan belly aches....

little attention being given to the Baloch population perhaps because it does not fetch electronic media good ratings

We have learnt nothing from the history

there was no freedom of expression even in Karachi where the media was being coerced to print at the will of the pressure groups

Mohammad Ali Jinnah said goodbye to the two-nation theory with the creation of Pakistan as the founder declared all the citizens equal irrespective of their religion, caste and creed

the slogan ‘udhar tum idhar hum’ was not chanted by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto but it had been coined by a news editor.

there was a ‘loot sale’ of the national assets

Authorities in Islamabad think us as beggars

Journalism has become a dangerous profession in Pakistan

Finally,

The curtain was brought down on the conference with a declaration calling for the media houses to respect privacy of citizens, do not give undue coverage to militant groups and their acts and particularly avoid the rampant use of music in news stories about blasts

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Feb 2014 16:27

JE Menon wrote:What exactly does "Mast Gul" mean... Playful flower???

More importantly why are they sitting in front of what appears to be a hand drawn picture of a carrot?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 06 Feb 2014 16:32

Dudes, doesn't the guy on the right look a bit like Dhoni, if he had long curly hair and wore a pakul? Don't tell me there's no resemblance....

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 06 Feb 2014 16:33

Also when lion/tiger couldnt be found, Badmash's supporters had to get creative.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 06 Feb 2014 18:07

Ok So who among the 2 clowns is Mast-Gul ?

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 06 Feb 2014 18:18

The one in the deferential position. No way can a Pakjabi give orders to a pakhtun in the taliban heirarchy.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 06 Feb 2014 18:19

Mast Gul is not one of them, he cannot be so young unless he has been gorging on the hapless Houbara.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Feb 2014 18:34

VikasRaina wrote:Ok So who among the 2 clowns is Mast-Gul ?

The happy one.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 06 Feb 2014 18:37

Paul wrote:The one in the deferential position. No way can a Pakjabi give orders to a pakhtun in the taliban heirarchy.

Are you forgetting Ham-eid Gul and Im-duh-Dim? Convert pakjabis to the core even though they will deny it.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Feb 2014 18:38

maybe it was dhoni in disguise? afterall he might be a raw agent?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Feb 2014 19:09

SSridhar wrote:The resurgence of Mast Gul, the peace talks with TTP, JeM chief assembling his cadres in Muzzafarnagar after a gap of six years and delivering a fiery speech to them about India, the emerging denouement in Afghanistan are all pointing to J&K sooner than later.

Ans also the elephant in the room, US. With India US relations hitting a net low, the India haters among US elite will have now full power to only ignore TSP's foray into India(J&K), but will actively encourage it.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 06 Feb 2014 19:24

Was confused whether should I put this nice Bloomberg articles about the respectable "sooth asians" in this thread. But thought some paki lurkers might read this and will be proud to be "sooth asian" (and not Indian)

why microsoft and everyone else loves South Asian CEOs

Enjoy.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 06 Feb 2014 19:33

abhijitm wrote:Was confused whether should I put this nice Bloomberg articles about the respectable "sooth asians" in this thread. But thought some paki lurkers might read this and will be proud to be "sooth asian" (and not Indian)

why microsoft and everyone else loves South Asian CEOs

Enjoy.

I didn't see one Paki or any any non Indian "sooth asian" name in that. But not to give any comfort to a TSP lurker, but has it not been the case that there have been a few TSP big wigs on wall st? Plus, I am sure Pakis are proud that their "humble" TFTA brethren Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, and some TSP doctor in UK, were all courted by elite western & Bollywood chics

.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 06 Feb 2014 19:52

CRamS wrote:I didn't see one Paki or any any non Indian "sooth asian" name in that.

C'mon CRamS, how will you? The article is specifically about the Indian CEOs.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 06 Feb 2014 21:20

from the article

With a TTP banner in the background, Hasaan was accompanied by Haroon Khan, alias Mast Gul, a leader of the Hezbul Mujahideen who had risen to fame following a gun battle with Indian security forces and his dramatic escape from Charrar-i-Sharif in India-held Kashmir in 1995. He hails from Sadda in Kurram tribal region.