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Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 09 Apr 2026 09:41
by uddu
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Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 09 Apr 2026 19:19
by uddu
There should be 50 percent reservation for All Hindus, Buddhist's, Jains and Sikhs. Also there should be an act similar to the SC/ST act line for line for protection of Hindus, Buddhist's, Jains and Sikhs against the discrimination and injustice and crimes including the horrible inhumane crimes being committed on them during the colonial times of British and Islamic rule.
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In the 1990s, I published a long list of atrocities by Muslims invaders in India based on the writings of THEIR OWN scribes and historians. The originals are in Arabic, Turkish, Persian in various museums/archives in those countries.
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Roughly 1,400 years of racist and violent Islamic colonialism, driven by thousands of wars and battles, brought approximately 20% of the Earth’s surface under their control. They brutally purged these territories of every culture that inhabited the land. They continue to expand under the commands of the Quran and the Sunnah of Muhammad.

List of major wars, conquests, raids, and battles in which Muslim forces attacked or conquered non-Muslim entities – expanded and updated with emphasis on the Indian subcontinent, Africa, Asia, and Europe (including hundreds of significant events).

The list includes major battles, campaigns, and raids (not every small raid or local battle, as there were thousands). Organized chronologically. Based on historical documentation.

610–632: Period of Muhammad (Arabian Peninsula)

624: Battle of Badr – against pagan Quraysh tribes.
625: Battle of Uhud – against Quraysh.
627: Battle of the Trench – against Quraysh and pagan tribes.
627: Siege of Banu Quraiza (Arabia) – Campaign against a Jewish tribe following the Battle of the Trench, resulting in the execution of the adult males and enslavement of others.
628: Conquest of Khaybar – against Jewish tribes.
630: Conquest of Mecca – against pagan Quraysh.
629: Battle of Mu'tah – first raid against Byzantium (Christians).
630: Tabuk raid – against Byzantium and Christians.

632–661: Rashidun Caliphate

632–633: Ridda Wars – against Arabian tribes (some non-Muslim).
634: Battle of Ajnadayn – against Byzantium.
636: Battle of Yarmouk – conquest of Syria and the Levant from Christian Byzantines.
636: Battle of al-Qadisiyyah – against Sassanids (Zoroastrians).
637: Conquest of Jerusalem – from Christians.
637–642: Full conquest of Persia.
639–642: Conquest of Egypt – against Byzantium.
644–651: Completion of Persia and Armenia conquests.
643: Naval raids on Debal (Sindh, India) – Initial caliphate maritime expeditions against the Hindu-ruled port of Debal.

661–750: Umayyad Caliphate

647–709: Conquest of North Africa (Maghreb) – against Christian/pagan Berbers and Byzantium (Carthage 698).
670–711: Naval raids on Sicily, Rhodes, Cyprus, Italy (Christians).
711–714: Conquest of Sindh (Pakistan/India) – against Hindus (Muhammad bin Qasim vs. Chach dynasty).
711: Battle of Guadalete – conquest of Spain from Christian Visigoths.
712–718: Full conquest of Al-Andalus (Spain and Lisbon).
717–718: Second siege of Constantinople – against Byzantium.
732: Raid into France – Battle of Tours (Poitiers) against Christian Franks.
673–751: Conquest of Central Asia (Bukhara, Samarkand) – against Turks, Sogdians, and China (Battle of Talas 751).
664–738: Early Arab raids into India (Sindh and Rajputs).
724–738: Campaigns of al-Junayd (India) – Major Umayyad invasions into central and western India, including raids on Ujjain, Malwa, and Gujarat.

750–1000: Abbasid Caliphate + early dynasties

800–900: Naval raids on Italy, Sardinia, Corsica, Rome (Christians).
9th–10th centuries: Raids on southern Italy and Rome.
827–902: Conquest of Sicily – against Byzantium.
846: Raid on Rome (Italy) – Aghlabid forces from the Maghreb and Sicily entered the Tiber, looting the Basilicas of St. Peter and St. Paul Outside the Walls.
904: Sack of Thessalonica (Byzantium) – A fleet led by Leo of Tripoli captured the Byzantine city; historical records note the slaughter and enslavement of over 20,000 Christians.
1015–1016: Invasion of Sardinia – Forces of Mujahid al-Amiri from Al-Andalus occupied portions of the Christian island to establish a permanent base.
1001–1027: 17 raids by Mahmud of Ghazni into India – against Hindus (destruction of temples in Mathura, Somnath, Punjab, Gujarat; hundreds of thousands killed).
1024–1030: Additional conquests in India (Somnath).

1000–1200: Seljuks, Ghaznavids, Ghurids

1064: Conquest of Christian Armenia – by Seljuk Turks.
1071: Battle of Manzikert – against Byzantium.
1070–1085: Conquest of Jerusalem, Syria, Antioch – against Byzantium.
1175–1206: Campaigns of Muhammad of Ghor (Ghurids) into India – conquest of Delhi, Punjab (Battle of Tarain 1192 vs. Rajputs); 1204 conquest of Bengal (Bakhtiyar Khilji).
1193: Destruction of Nalanda University (India) – Ghurid commander Bakhtiyar Khilji destroyed the Buddhist center, slaughtering the inhabitants and burning the library.
1192–1206: Founding of Delhi Sultanate – widespread conquests against Hindus.

1200–1500: Delhi Sultanate, Timur, early Ottomans

1206–1526: Expansion of Delhi Sultanate (Mamluk, Khalji, Tughlaq dynasties) – hundreds of battles against Rajputs, Vijayanagara, southern Indian kingdoms (Madurai 1310–1311, Alauddin Khalji; temple destructions).
1294: Raid on Devagiri (India) – Alauddin Khilji’s expedition against the Hindu Yadava dynasty, resulting in massive plunder and tributary status.
1311: Siege of Madurai (India) – Malik Kafur’s campaign in the far south; systematic looting of temples and seizure of gold and elephants.
1300s+: Conquests in southern India (Madurai Sultanate).
1400: Timur’s Caucasian Invasions – Systematic raids against Christian Georgia and Armenia, characterized by the destruction of hundreds of churches and mass capture.
1398: Timur (Tamerlane) invasion of India – conquest of Delhi, mass slaughter (50,000–80,000 killed), massive looting.
1300–1350: Ottomans conquer Anatolia and cross into the Balkans (Bulgaria, Serbia).
1354–1396: Ottoman conquests in the Balkans (Battle of Maritsa 1371, Battle of Kosovo 1389 – against Serbs, Hungarians, Bulgarians Christians).
1396: Battle of Nicopolis – against European Crusaders.
1453: Conquest of Constantinople – end of Byzantium.
1480: Conquest of Otranto (Italy) – Ottoman forces seized the city and executed 813 residents who refused to adopt the new ideology.

1500–1700: Ottomans, Mughals, Safavids, Barbary states

1521: Conquest of Belgrade – against Hungarians.
1522: Conquest of Rhodes – against Hospitaller Knights.
1526: Battle of Mohács – conquest of Hungary.
1526: Babur founds Mughal Empire in India – conquests against Hindus (Panipat 1526 vs. Lodi).
1529: First siege of Vienna – against Habsburgs.
1529–1543: Jihad of Ahmad Gragn (Africa) – Adal Sultanate invasion of the Christian Ethiopian Empire with Ottoman support; burning of cathedrals and large-scale territorial shifts.
1530–1700: Mughal expansion in India (Akbar, Aurangzeb) – hundreds of battles against Rajputs, Marathas, Sikhs, Hindus (destruction of hundreds of temples).
1565: Battle of Talikota (India) – Coalition of Deccan Sultanates defeated the Hindu Vijayanagara Empire, followed by the total destruction of the imperial capital.
1567–1568: Siege of Chittorgarh (India) – Mughal Emperor Akbar’s conquest of the Rajput fort, followed by the execution of approx. 30,000 Hindu civilians.
1565: Siege of Malta – against Christian knights.
1570: Conquest of Nicosia (Cyprus) – Ottoman siege resulting in the slaughter of an estimated 20,000 Christian inhabitants.
1571: Battle of Lepanto (defeat, but earlier naval raids).
1669: Conquest of Crete – against Venice.
1683: Second siege of Vienna – against Europe.
Barbary raids (North Africa, 1500–1800): Hundreds of naval and land raids on European coasts (Italy, Spain, France, England, Iceland 1627 – North African corsairs raided the Icelandic coast, capturing approximately 400 individuals for the slave trade) – plunder and enslavement of Christians (hundreds of thousands of captives).
West Africa: Almoravid jihads (1050–1140) against pagan Ghana; Almohad (12th century) against Christians and pagans.

1700–1900: Ottomans, late Mughals, jihads in Africa

1714–1718: Ottoman wars against Venice and Austria.
1730–1900: Ongoing Ottoman wars in the Balkans, Greece, Russia (against Christians).
India: Late Mughal wars against Marathas and Hindus; 1857 Sepoy Mutiny (Muslim component against British).
Africa: Fulani jihads (1804–1808, Usman dan Fodio) – conquest of Hausa, founding of Sokoto Caliphate against pagans and mixed groups.
1850s: Jihad of Al-Hajj Umar Tal (Mali/Senegal) – conquest of Bambara kingdoms.
1820–1822: Turco-Egyptian Conquest of Sudan – Military expeditions to secure control over the upper Nile and capture slaves from non-Muslim populations.
1881–1899: Mahdist revolt in Sudan – against Egypt/British (including Christians).

1900–present: Modern period

1914–1918: World War I – Ottomans against the Allies (Britain, France, Russia – Christian powers).
1915: Systematic Genocides in Anatolia – The elimination of Armenian, Greek, and Assyrian Christian populations by the Ottoman state apparatus.
1947–1948: 1948 War – Arab states against Israel.
1965, 1971: Indo-Pakistani wars – Pakistan against India.
1967, 1973: Arab-Israeli wars.
1979–1989: Jihad in Afghanistan – Mujahideen against Soviets.
1992–1995: Bosnian War – Bosniaks against Christian Serbs.
1999: Kosovo War – Albanians against Serbs.
2001+: War in Afghanistan – Taliban against USA.
2003–2011: Insurgents in Iraq – against USA.
Africa: Boko Haram (2004–present, Nigeria) against Christians; Al-Shabaab (Somalia) against Christians/West; ISIS in the Sahel (Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso) against Christians and governments.
2008: Mumbai attacks – Pakistani jihadists against India.
2014–2019: ISIS Caliphate – against Yazidis, Christians, Shiites, West.
2014–present: Hamas/Hezbollah against Israel (repeated operations).
2021: Taliban return – conquest of Afghanistan (against non-Muslim minorities).
1921: Moplah Uprising (India) – Attacks by the Mappila community against the Hindu population in Malabar, involving massacres and forced ideological changes.

Additional notes on specific regions:

Indian subcontinent: Hundreds of additional battles in the Delhi Sultanate and Mughal Empire (against Rajputs, Vijayanagara, Ahom in Assam).
Africa: Additional jihads in the west (17th–19th centuries) against pagans; Arab slave trade in East Africa.
Asia: Timur’s conquests (1370–1405) in Central Asia, Persia, India, Georgia (against Christians); Mughal/Timurid raids.
Europe: Hundreds of Barbary raids + Ottoman wars in the Balkans (1700–1900); Crimean Tatar (Muslim) raids on Russia/Ukraine.

The list includes only Muslim initiatives against non-Muslims. Wars between Muslims are not included.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 09 Apr 2026 19:58
by uddu
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Met Shri Prakash Kshatriya (Karaga Prakash), who serves as Banka Dasayya, at Lalbagh this morning. We had a wide discussion about the rich legacy of Bengaluru Karaga.

More than just a festival, Karaga is an 800-year-old tradition of devotion and history. The powerful sound of the banka heralds the arrival of Draupadi, carrying deep cultural and spiritual significance.

From Veerakumaras to priests and devoted families, Karaga is a true collective effort - symbolising unity, faith and Bengaluru’s living heritage.

More about some of the prominent members of the festival -

1. Karaga Priest (Karagadhari): The central figure who carries the Karaga, symbolising Draupadi, following strict rituals and traditions.

2. Veerakumaras: Devoted youth who act as protectors of the Karaga, displaying courage and unwavering faith.

3. Banka Dasayya: Leads the procession with the distinctive banka sound, signalling the arrival of the Karaga and warding off evil.

4. Ghante Poojaris: Perform key rituals and maintain the spiritual rhythm of the procession with sacred chants and bell ringing.

5. Kulapurohitas: Spiritual guides who oversee rituals, initiate participants, and ensure adherence to tradition.

6. Chakravarthi Family (Yajamanas): Custodians who manage the organisation, finances, and continuity of the festival.

7. Trishula Bearers (Potharaja lineage): Provide protection and add vigour to the procession with their symbolic presence.

8. Women (Aarti Bearers): Devotees who welcome the Karaga with aarti, rangoli, and prayers, adding grace and devotion to the celebration.

All in all, this is a tradition we must cherish and carry forward.

ಲಾಲ್ ಬಾಗ್ ನಲ್ಲಿ ಇಂದು ಬೆಳಿಗ್ಗೆ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ಕರಗದಲ್ಲಿ ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯರಾಗಿ ವಿಶೇಷ ಕಾರ್ಯ ನಿರ್ವಹಿಸುವ ಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಕ್ಷತ್ರಿಯ ( ಕರಗ ಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ಎಂದೇ ಪ್ರಖ್ಯಾತರು) ರನ್ನು ಭೇಟಿಯಾದೆ. ನಮ್ಮ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆಯಾಗಿರುವ ಕರಗದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಅವರು ನೀಡಿದ ಮಾಹಿತಿ ನಿಜಕ್ಕೂ ರೋಚಕ ಅನ್ನಿಸಿದ ಕಾರಣ ತಮ್ಮೊಂದಿಗೆ ಹಂಚಿಕೊಳ್ಳುತ್ತಿದ್ದೇನೆ.

ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ಕರಗ ಎಂದರೆ ಅದು ಕೇವಲ ಉತ್ಸವವಲ್ಲ; ಅದು 800 ವರ್ಷಗಳ ಅಖಂಡ ಭಕ್ತಿ ಮತ್ತು ಇತಿಹಾಸದ ಸಂಗಮ. ತಾಯಿ ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯ ಆಗಮನಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ಕಾಯುವ ಕೋಟಿ ಕಣ್ಣುಗಳಿಗೆ ಭರವಸೆಯ ಧ್ವನಿಯೇ 'ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯ'ನವರ ಕಹಳೆ. ಈ ಪರಂಪರೆಯ ಹಿಂದಿರುವ ಆಳವಾದ ಭಾವನೆಗಳ ಕಥೆಯೇ ಒಂದು ಅದ್ಭುತ. ಪ್ರಕಾಶ್ ರಂತಹ & ಇತರ ಕುಟುಂಬಗಳು ಕಳೆದ 800 ವರ್ಷಗಳಿಂದ ಅಖಂಡವಾಗಿ ನಡೆಸಿಕೊಂಡು ಬರುತ್ತಿರುವ ಸಂಪ್ರದಾಯದ ಹಿಂದಿರುವ ಇತಿಹಾಸ ಅಧ್ಯಯನ ಯೋಗ್ಯವಾದುದು.

ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ರಾಜಧಾನಿ ಮೈಸೂರು ನಗರಕ್ಕೆ ದಸರಾ ಹೇಗೆ ಭೂಷಣವೋ ನಮ್ಮ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿಗೆ ಐತಿಹಾಸಿಕ ಕರಗವು ಕಳಶ ಪ್ರಾಯ.

ಧರ್ಮರಾಯಸ್ವಾಮಿ ದೇವಸ್ಥಾನದಿಂದ ಕರಗ ಹೊರಡುವಾಗ ಇಡೀ ನಗರವೇ ಭಕ್ತಿಭಾವ ಪರವಶತೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಮೀಯುತ್ತದೆ. ಅಂತಹ ಸಮಯದಲ್ಲಿ ಮೊದಲು ಕೇಳಿಸುವುದೇ ಬಂಕಾದಾಸಯ್ಯನವರ ಕಹಳೆಯ ನಾದ. ಈ ನಾದವು ತಾಯಿ ದ್ರೌಪದಿ ಬರುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾಳೆ ಎಂಬ ಸೂಚನೆಯನ್ನು ಭಕ್ತರಿಗೆ ರವಾನಿಸುತ್ತದೆ. ಇದು ತಲೆಮಾರುಗಳಿಂದ ನಡೆದು ಬಂದಿರುವ ದಿವ್ಯ ಸಂಪ್ರದಾಯ.

ಬಂಕಾ ಎನ್ನುವುದು ಒಂದು ವಿಶಿಷ್ಟವಾದ ವಾದ್ಯ. ಇದನ್ನು ನುಡಿಸುವ ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯನವರು ಕರಗ ಉತ್ಸವದ ಅವಿಭಾಜ್ಯ ಅಂಗ. ಇವರು ಕೇವಲ ವಾದ್ಯಗಾರರಲ್ಲ; ಇವರು ಪಾಂಡವರ ಕಾಲದ ಸೇನಾಪಡೆಗಳ ಸಂಕೇತವಾಗಿ ನಿಲ್ಲುತ್ತಾರೆ, ಶಿಸ್ತು ಮತ್ತು ಭಕ್ತಿಯ ಪ್ರತೀಕವಾಗಿ ದಾರಿಯುದ್ದಕ್ಕೂ ಸಾಗುತ್ತಾರೆ.

ಕರಗ ಹೊತ್ತ ವೀರಕುಮಾರರ ಹೆಜ್ಜೆಗಳಿಗೆ ಈ ಬಂಕಾ ನಾದವು ಒಂದು ಆವೇಶವನ್ನು ತುಂಬುತ್ತದೆ. ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯ ಶಕ್ತಿಯ ಅವತಾರವಾಗಿ ಕರಗ ಸಾಗುವಾಗ, ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯನವರ ಕಹಳೆಯು ದುಷ್ಟ ಶಕ್ತಿಗಳನ್ನು ದೂರವಿರಿಸಿ, ದೈವಿಕ ಕಳೆಯನ್ನು ಹೆಚ್ಚಿಸುತ್ತದೆ ಎಂಬ ನಂಬಿಕೆ ಅಚಲವಾಗಿದೆ.

ಎಷ್ಟೇ ಆಧುನಿಕತೆ ಬಂದರೂ, ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ಗಲ್ಲಿ ಗಲ್ಲಿಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಮೊಳಗುವ ಈ ಪುರಾತನ ಕಹಳೆಯ ಶಬ್ದ ನಮ್ಮನ್ನು ಕ್ಷಣಕಾಲ ಇತಿಹಾಸದ ಪುಟಗಳಿಗೆ ಕರೆದೊಯ್ಯುತ್ತದೆ. ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯನವರ ಕುಟುಂಬದವರು ಇದನ್ನು ವಂಶಪಾರಂಪರ್ಯವಾಗಿ ಒಂದು ಪವಿತ್ರ ಕಾಯಕವೆಂದು ಭಾವಿಸಿ ನಡೆಸಿಕೊಂಡು ಬರುತ್ತಿರುವುದು ಶ್ಲಾಘನೀಯ.

ವಹ್ನಿಕುಲ ಕ್ಷತ್ರಿಯರು ನಡೆಸಿಕೊಂಡು ಬರುತ್ತಿರುವ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ಕರಗದ ವಿಶೇಷತೆಯೇ ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯನ್ನು ಶಕ್ತಿದೇವತೆಯಾಗಿ ಆರಾಧಿಸುವುದು. ಈ ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯನವರ ಸೇವೆಯು ಸಮುದಾಯಗಳ ನಡುವಿನ ಬೆಸುಗೆಯನ್ನು ಸಾರುತ್ತದೆ. ಭಕ್ತಿ ಮತ್ತು ಕಲೆಗೆ ಯಾವುದೇ ಜಾತಿ-ಧರ್ಮದ ಹಂಗಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂಬುದಕ್ಕೆ ಈ ಐತಿಹಾಸಿಕ ಘಟನೆಯೇ ಸಾಕ್ಷಿ.

ನಮ್ಮ ಹಿರಿಯರು ಉಳಿಸಿಕೊಟ್ಟ ಈ ಮಹಾನ್ ಪರಂಪರೆಯನ್ನು ಮುಂದಿನ ಪೀಳಿಗೆಗೆ ದಾಟಿಸುವುದು ನಮ್ಮ ಕರ್ತವ್ಯ. ಕರಗದ ಪ್ರತಿ ಹಂತದಲ್ಲೂ ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯನವರಂತಹ ನಿಸ್ವಾರ್ಥ ಸೇವಕರ ಶ್ರಮವಿದೆ. ಅವರ ಕಹಳೆಯ ಧ್ವನಿ ನಮ್ಮ ಸಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಯ ಜಾಗೃತಿಯ ಧ್ವನಿಯೂ ಹೌದು.

ರಾಷ್ಟ್ರಪತಿ ದ್ರೌಪದಿ ಮುರ್ಮು ರವರಿಂದ ಪ್ರಶಂಸೆ :
ಇತ್ತೀಚೆಗಷ್ಟೇ ರಾಷ್ಟ್ರಪತಿ ದ್ರೌಪದಿ ಮುರ್ಮು ರವರು, ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿಗೆ ಭೇಟಿ ನೀಡಿದ ಸಂದರ್ಭದಲ್ಲಿ ನನ್ನ ಮನವಿಯ ಮೇರೆಗೆ , ಶ್ರೀ ಧರ್ಮರಾಯ ಸ್ವಾಮಿ ದೇವಸ್ಥಾನದ ಅಧ್ಯಕ್ಷರಾದ ಶ್ರೀ ಚಳ್ಳೆರೆ ನಾರಾಯಣಸ್ವಾಮಿ ರವರನ್ನು ಭೇಟಿಯಾಗಿದ್ದು, ಕರಗದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಮಾಹಿತಿ ಪಡೆದುಕೊಂಡು ತಮ್ಮ ಹೆಸರಿಗೂ, ದ್ರೌಪದಿ ಆರಾಧನೆಯ ಈ ವಿಶೇಷ ಆಚರಣೆಗೂ ಇರುವ ಸಂಬಂಧ, ಹಿನ್ನೆಲೆ ತಿಳಿದುಕೊಂಡು ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ಐತಿಹಾಸಿಕ ಕರಗದ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆ ವ್ಯಕ್ತಪಡಿಸಿದ್ದು ಗಮನಾರ್ಹ.

ಕರಗ - ಸಾಮೂಹಿಕ ಕಾರ್ಯ:
ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ಕರಗ ಶಕ್ತ್ಯೋತ್ಸವವು ಕೇವಲ ಒಬ್ಬ ವ್ಯಕ್ತಿಯಿಂದ ನಡೆಯುವ ಹಬ್ಬವಲ್ಲ, ಇದು ನಿರ್ದಿಷ್ಟ ಜವಾಬ್ದಾರಿಗಳನ್ನು ಹೊತ್ತ ವಿವಿಧ ಗುಂಪುಗಳ ಸಾಂಘಿಕ ಶ್ರಮ. ತಿಗಳ ಸಮುದಾಯದ (ವಹ್ನಿಕುಲ ಕ್ಷತ್ರಿಯರು) ವಿಭಿನ್ನ ಪಾತ್ರಧಾರಿಗಳ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ತಿಳಿದುಕೊಂಡಾಗ ಕರಗದ ಹಿಂದಿನ ಶ್ರಮ ಅರ್ಥವಾಗುತ್ತದೆ.

1) ಕರಗ ಪೂಜಾರಿ (ಕರಗಧಾರಿ) :
ಇವರು ಉತ್ಸವದ ಕೇಂದ್ರಬಿಂದು. ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯ ಸ್ವರೂಪವಾದ 'ಕರಗ'ವನ್ನು ತಲೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಹೊತ್ತು ಸಾಗುವವರು. ಇವರನ್ನು ತಿಗಳ ಸಮುದಾಯದ ನಿರ್ದಿಷ್ಟ ಮನೆತನಗಳಿಂದ ಕಟ್ಟುನಿಟ್ಟಾದ ಪದ್ಧತಿಗಳ ಮೂಲಕ ಆಯ್ಕೆ ಮಾಡಲಾಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಮೆರವಣಿಗೆಯ ದಿನ ಇವರು ಸ್ತ್ರೀ ವೇಷ ಧರಿಸಿ (ಬಳೆ, ಸೀರೆ, ಮಂಗಳಸೂತ್ರ), ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯ ಸಾಕಾರ ರೂಪದಂತೆ ಕಂಗೊಳಿಸುತ್ತಾರೆ.

2) ವೀರಕುಮಾರರು
ಇವರು ಕರಗದ ಅಂಗರಕ್ಷಕರು. 'ಕುಲಪುರೋಹಿತ'ರಿಂದ ದೀಕ್ಷೆ ಪಡೆದ ಸುಮಾರು 500 ರಿಂದ 1000 ಜನ ಯುವಕರು ಈ ಗುಂಪಿನಲ್ಲಿರುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಇವರು ಕೈಯಲ್ಲಿ ಬರಿಗತ್ತಿ (ಅಲಗು) ಹಿಡಿದಿರುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಕರಗವು ಸಾಗುವಾಗ, ಘೋಷಣೆ ಕೂಗುತ್ತ ಸಾಗುತ್ತಾರೆ.ಇದು ಅವರ ಶೌರ್ಯ ಮತ್ತು ದ್ರೌಪದಿಯ ಮೇಲಿರುವ ಭಕ್ತಿಯ ಸಂಕೇತ. ಕರಗ ಹೊತ್ತ ಪೂಜಾರಿಗೆ ಯಾವುದೇ ತೊಂದರೆಯಾಗದಂತೆ ಸುತ್ತಲೂ ರಕ್ಷಣಾ ಕವಚದಂತೆ ಸಾಗುತ್ತಾರೆ.

3) ಬಂಕಾ ದಾಸಯ್ಯರು, ಉದ್ದನೆಯ ಲೋಹದ ಶಂಖದಂತಹ ವಾದ್ಯವನ್ನು (ಬಂಕಾ) ಊದುತ್ತಾ ಮೆರವಣಿಗೆಯ ಮುಂದೆ ಸಾಗುತ್ತಾರೆ.ಈ ನಾದವು ದುಷ್ಟ ಶಕ್ತಿಗಳನ್ನು ಓಡಿಸುತ್ತದೆ ಮತ್ತು ಕರಗವು ಬರುತ್ತಿದೆ ಎಂದು ಭಕ್ತರಿಗೆ ಮುನ್ಸೂಚನೆ ನೀಡುತ್ತದೆ. ಇವರು ಇಲ್ಲದೆ ಕರಗ ಒಂದು ಹೆಜ್ಜೆಯೂ ಮುಂದೆ ಸಾಗುವುದಿಲ್ಲ.

4) ಗಂಟೆ ಪೂಜಾರಿಗಳು,
ಕರಗದ ಧಾರ್ಮಿಕ ವಿಧಿವಿಧಾನಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಇವರ ಪಾತ್ರ ಬಹಳ ದೊಡ್ಡದು. ಕರಗದ ಮೆರವಣಿಗೆಯ ಉದ್ದಕ್ಕೂ ಇವರು ಗಂಟೆ ಬಾರಿಸುತ್ತಾ ಸಾಗುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಹಬ್ಬಕ್ಕೆ ಸಂಬಂಧಿಸಿದ ಮಂತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ಪಠಿಸುವವರು ಮತ್ತು ಶಾಸ್ತ್ರಗಳನ್ನು ನಡೆಸಿಕೊಡುವವರು ಇವರೇ.

5) ಕುಲಪುರೋಹಿತರು
ತಿಗಳ ಸಮುದಾಯದ ಆಧ್ಯಾತ್ಮಿಕ ಗುರುಗಳು. ಕರಗ ಪೂಜಾರಿಗೆ ದೀಕ್ಷೆ ನೀಡುವುದು, ವೀರಕುಮಾರರಿಗೆ ಕಂಕಣ ಕಟ್ಟುವುದು ಮತ್ತು ಕರಗಕ್ಕೆ ಬೇಕಾದ ಪವಿತ್ರ ಮಂತ್ರೋಚ್ಚಾರಣೆಗಳನ್ನು ಮಾಡುವುದು ಇವರ ಹೊಣೆ. ಹಬ್ಬದ ಪ್ರತಿಯೊಂದು ಧಾರ್ಮಿಕ ಹೆಜ್ಜೆಯೂ ಇವರ ಮಾರ್ಗದರ್ಶನದಲ್ಲೇ ನಡೆಯುತ್ತದೆ.

6) ಚಕ್ರವರ್ತಿ ಮನೆತನ (ಯಜಮಾನರು)
ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ಕರಗದ ಉಸ್ತುವಾರಿಯನ್ನು ಸಮುದಾಯದ ಹಿರಿಯ 'ಯಜಮಾನರು' ನೋಡಿಕೊಳ್ಳುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಉತ್ಸವದ ವ್ಯವಸ್ಥೆ, ಹಣಕಾಸಿನ ನಿರ್ವಹಣೆ ಮತ್ತು ಸಂಪ್ರದಾಯಗಳು ಎಲ್ಲಿಯೂ ಲೋಪವಾಗದಂತೆ ನೋಡಿಕೊಳ್ಳುವ ಆಡಳಿತಾತ್ಮಕ ಜವಾಬ್ದಾರಿ ಇವರದ್ದು.

7) ಮಹಿಳೆಯರ ಪಾತ್ರ (ಆರತಿ ಎತ್ತುವವರು)
ಕರಗವು ಸಾಗುವ ಪ್ರತಿ ಮನೆಯ ಮುಂದೆ ತಿಗಳ ಸಮುದಾಯದ ಮತ್ತು ಇತರ ಭಕ್ತ ಮಹಿಳೆಯರು ಧೂಪಾರತಿ ಬೆಳಗುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಇದು ದೇವಿಗೆ ನೀಡುವ ಗೌರವ. ಕರಗ ಬರುವ ಹಾದಿಯನ್ನು ನೀರು ಹಾಕಿ ತೊಳೆದು, ರಂಗೋಲಿ ಹಾಕಿ ಸ್ವಾಗತಿಸುವುದು ಇವರ ಕಾಯಕ.

ಇಷ್ಟೆಲ್ಲ ಮಹತ್ವ, ಐತಿಹಾಸಿಕ ಹಿನ್ನೆಲೆಯುಳ್ಳ ಕರಗವು ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಹೆಮ್ಮೆ ಎನ್ನುವದು ವಿಶೇಷ.

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Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 11 Apr 2026 15:04
by uddu
https://x.com/eOrganiser/status/2042540153923866914
@eOrganiser
Sabarimala Women Entry Case: Supreme Court says Mandir rituals must be followed, stresses limits of judicial role

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 15 Apr 2026 08:03
by uddu
https://x.com/Jijith_NR/status/2044090879657562155
@Jijith_NR
India served as a major hub for the early dispersal of modern humans!

Why they hid this from you?

Not just a transit zone, but India was the foundational population center for all non-African humans!

It shaped the gene pool of West Eurasia (Europe, Iran), East Asia (China, Japan), and Oceania.

This is map of Human Genome Project. Here African migration directly comes into India through Arabian & South Iranian seashore through Gujarat.

This entry happened in 75,000 to 55,000 BCE. mtDNA M, Y-DNA F.

Migration from East Africa (via Bab-el-Mandab strait, into Arabian Peninsula), into southern coastal Iran, and then entry into India (Gujarat). This is also called the "Southern Route" of human migration from Africa.

Humans exit in two paths.

1) through west towards Iran, Central Asia & Europe in ~45,000 to 35,000 BCE. mtDNA U, Y-DNA R1.

This is supported by the basal Eurasian ancestry found in ancient Near Eastern genomes and a "genetic trail from India to Europe".

2) through east towards Iran, China and South East Asia in 50,000 to 40,000 BCE. mtDNA M, R; Y-DNA C, K2b.

Y-DNA haplogroups C, D, and K found in East Asians, Papuans, and Aboriginal Australians derived from it.

Then what happened to the "Northern Route" also known as the "Levantine Route" (via Sinai and Israel into West Asia)?

North via Sinai Peninsula to Levant (Israel, Jordan) to Anatolia to Eurasia

Dating: ~100,000 BCE (older).

No genetic continuity between those early Levant humans and later Eurasians! Died out or were absorbed by Neanderthals. No trail of mtDNA M or N (which all Eurasians descend from) through this route!

So, it’s often called a "failed migration".

All non-African humans today descend from mtDNA haplogroups M & N, and Y-DNA haplogroups C, D, F. These are not present in the early Levant fossils. Their oldest surviving branches are in India, Southeast Asia, and Oceania, not the Levant.

Ancient Eurasian genomes do not match the 100k-year-old Levantine fossils genetically.

Modern human genetic bottleneck (~60–70k years ago) aligns better with the "southern dispersal model"

The Levantine route reflects early exploratory dispersals of Homo sapiens. But it is considered a dead-end migration with no genetic legacy in present-day humans.

The "southern route" , as seen in National Geographic HGP map, remains the strongest model.
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Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 15 Apr 2026 18:26
by uddu
https://x.com/Chris_Iwanek/status/2044054425463865634
@Chris_Iwanek
TIL: The earliest known inscription in the Mongolian language, dated 6-7th century AD, had been written in... the Brahmi script.

Source: https://unesco.org/en/memory-world/insc ... s-tolgoi-1
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Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 17 Apr 2026 13:33
by uddu
https://x.com/i/status/2044702134399390191
@sringerimath
In the wake of the deeply distressing and alarming incidents, and the concerns it raises for the well-being of society and the values of Sanatana Dharma, Jagadguru Shankaracharya Sri Sri Vidhushekhara Bharati Mahaswamiji underscores the pressing need for constant awareness of the evolving circumstances across the country, vigilance towards vulnerabilities that may arise in the absence of due alertness, and a renewed emphasis on imparting strong dharmic samskaras to all.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 17 Apr 2026 13:54
by uddu
https://x.com/i/status/2044670546840002992
@sgurumurthy
A must read article on Sabarimala case by a revered Jain Sadhu. It has deep implications for the religious soverignty of Indic faiths which do not invade other faiths like Abrahamic faiths do. This is extremely crucial for dharmic faiths
Full article: https://lawbeat.in/articles/the-unfinis ... en-1578651

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 17 Apr 2026 13:55
by uddu
https://x.com/i/status/2044629873386566064
@Jijith_NR
Today another nail on the coffin of AIT/ AMT.

There was a paper in 2024 which shows Steppe spoke non-IE languages at one time and spread it to Europe before it got the Indo European Languages from its south.

Nobody wants to talk about it.

Not any Aryan Invason / Migration enthusiast!

Because it turns what they believed so far, just upside down!

Yes, there was such an important study result!

The author's view was that IE (Indo European) came to the Steppe from Iran or from around Caspian Sea.

But there was nothing that prevented it coming from North West India.

Etruscan, North Caucasus and Uralic are non-IE languages still spoken in Steppe.

Basque is another non-IE language spoken in Europe.

The lost non IE language of Europe & Steppe could be related to them.

The paper is titled:-
“Origins and spread of Indo‑European languages: an alternative view”.

Google it!🔥

It was published in Ancient DNA Era.

It details about a "non‑Indo‑European (non-IE)" language substrate on the Steppe, predating the arrival of Indo‑European languages, originating from the South Caucasus or Iran, with possible links to extant languages like North Caucasian, Uralic, Etruscan, or Basque.

This non IE language was code named NEBA language.

NEBA stands for North Eurasian Basal Ancestry.

Yamnaya and related Steppe farmers spoke this non-IE language.

The paper notes that Indo‑European (IE) languages moved eastward into the Caucasus or Anatolia.

This direction vector of IE origin points to North West India as the source of all IE languages.

In 2018, David Reich argued for Steppe Origin of IE languages. That is 8 years ago already!

In 2023, Heggarty et al. have already moved the mainstream IE scholarship to conclude that Steppe is not the primary homeland or primary source of IE languages.

He proposed the "southern origin" theory of IE languages by 2023 itself.

He and his co-authors used language phylogenetics and genetic data to argue that Proto‑Indo‑European began south of the Caucasus, in the northern Fertile Crescent, with only one branch later moving northward onto the Steppe and spreading through Europe.

Here we note, this Fertile Cresent and the South of Caucasus are on the path of a migration from North West India to westward towards Europe.

We are now in 2026 as we move towards North West Indian IE homeland theory.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 17 Apr 2026 20:30
by uddu
https://x.com/i/status/2044977019998679353
@ravianantapuri
Former Indian cricketer Anil Kumble and his wife Chethana Kumble are seen promoting the beauty of Sanskrit by speaking it fluently in this video.

It’s inspiring to see a sporting icon use his influence to highlight the richness of one of the world’s oldest languages. Wonderful!

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 20 Apr 2026 16:41
by Manish_Sharma
https://x.com/Kal_Chiron/status/2046063 ... 49957?s=20
The problem of unearned moksha or breakage of prākrutik bonds is best explained through the story of gayāsura.

Gayasura was an asura who lived in the Treta Yuga and was an ardent devotee of Shri Vishnu. He performed severe tapas, which pleased Vishnu.

As a fruit of his intense tapas - Shri Vishnu granted him a boon. Gayasura requested that anyone who saw him or touched him should be instantly liberated and attain salvation (Moksham). This disturbs the fundamental cosmic balance of karma siddhanta.

This is in a way similar to Christian concept of “substitutional atonement” (Christ suffering on behalf of humanity - so that entire humanity believing in him gets free pass to heaven irrespective of their karma profile). Who knows perhaps Xians got this from story of gayāsura.

Anyways - story wraps up neatly as always in any Hindu purana. While he was prostrating on ground to be substrate for yagña, dèvatās placed a large stone on gayāsura and Shri vishNu placed his foot on the stone thereby pinning the asura down (thus creating vishnupada of Gaya temple).

Point is - unearned moksha makes system unstable. That is why Christians and Muslims cannot fathom long timelines of their world. They need to have definitely end point for their cosmology.

Moksha is to be attained as result of your upasana that you have done over the course of multiple births. The mango must ripen on its own - through its internal tapas. If the plucker starts plucking willy nilly then system collapses.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 21 Apr 2026 12:52
by Manish_Sharma
https://x.com/MumukshuSavitri/status/20 ... 54990?s=20
Ignorance and illiteracy dripping from every word.

Before any Mughal stepped foot in India we had:

Over two dozen major languages and dozens of regional dialects with copiously vast amounts of literature written millennia before Islam was born.

At least 16 clearly distinct fully-developed regional cuisines and dozens of sub-cuisines dating back millennia before Mughals. (Documented pre-Mughal recipes in Nala’s Paka Darpanam, Manasollasa, Lokopakara, Lokaprakasha, Manasollasa, Sarangadhara Samhita)

At least 264 documented and systemized musical Ragas as recorded by Sharngadeva in Sangita Ratnakara (13th c. pre-Mughal). They were the common foundation of both later traditions:
Hindustani (North Indian) & Carnatic (South Indian)

8 major Painting schools and at least 16 major schools of sculpture before 13th c.

140 + technically elaborate manuals on royal, residential & temple architecture, garden design and iconography alone, besides innumerable incomparable temples, forts, caves and palaces long before Mughals ever stepped foot in India.

In contrast the Mughals borrowed Persian for their courtly language, had no cuisine to speak of, and ZERO technical manuals on art or architecture. Not even ONE single Timurid manual on art & architecture exists as opposed to 141+ Hindu technical manuals on ancient art & architecture alone.

And India has always had a hoary tradition of unsurpassed religious syncretism thousands of years before the Mughals ever got here. The only Mughal “syncreticism” was in collectively destroying Hindu, Buddhist and Jain places of worship, gods and goddess & sacred books.

Your blatantly ahistorical drivel has nothing to do with real history.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 21 Apr 2026 22:31
by Manish_Sharma
https://x.com/Jijith_NR/status/2046447376437821660?s=20
Puranas does the unthinkable!🔥

Three Puranas - Matsya, Vayu and Brahmanda - preserve the names of every king who ruled after the Kurukshetra War and before the historical king Mahapadma Nanda!🔥

They preserve even the period each king ruled, to the minutest detail!🔥

This detailing continues for every king of Nandas, Mauryas, Sungas, Kanvas and Satavahanas with Guptas mentioned as a group.

We show here upto Mahapadma Nanda's coronation.

Ever seen all these names together in one picture?

While the Buddhist and Jain sources preserve many events related to a few of these kings as they interacted with Buddha or Mahavira, only the Puranas preserved the full chronology from the Kurukshetra War to the rule of the Nandas, Mauryas, Sungas, Kanvas, and Satavahanas.

But the most important shock it gives is this:-

Puranas make sense only if the Kurukshetra War is dated to 1793 BCE or in the dates close to it.🔥

A simple glance at this research will tell you this.

Look at the table with every king who ruled after the Kurukshetra War upto the coronation of Mahapadma Nanda.

One column has their regnal years based on Kurukshetra War dated to 1793 BCE.

Another column based on the 3138 BCE as the Kurukshetra War - a representative date for the 3200-3000 BCE period.

Now here is the fun!🔥

When you put 3138 BCE as the Kurukshetra War, all these kings become contemporary to the Sarasvati Sindhu Civilisation and its Early, Mature and Late Harappan phases!

You all know this great civilisation thrived in North West India in the region of the Sarasvati, Sindhu and their tributary networks.

But these kings ruled to their east along the Ganga, Sarayu, Gandaki and Shona in UP and Bihar.

Are you able to detect the anomaly?🔥

Not even a single mention of the great Sarasvati Sindhu Civilisation in any of the Puranas as contemporary to any of these kings! 🔥

You all know that, when the Early and Mature Phases of the Sarasvati Sindhu Civilisation were thriving in 3300-1900 BCE, its eastern region around the Ganga was less developed and less prosperous.

But, those who date the Kurukshetra War in 3200-3000 BCE want to argue that these kings ruled as the poor eastern neighbours of the highly prosperous IVC / Harappan / Sarasvati Sindhu Region along the Ganga Basin!

But they have no evidence to show the prosperity of Ganga basin in 3300-1900 BCE compared to the prosperity of Sarasvati and Sindhu in the same period to the west of Ganga!🔥

Contrast this with our chronology.

We correctly identify 3300-1900 BCE Early and Mature Harappan phases of Sarasvati Sindhu Civilization as the Rgvedic Period.

Our Santanu lived in 1950-1850 BCE, and the Kurukshetra War is dated to 1793 BCE.

Then the regnal periods of these kings correctly align with the Late Harappan Period and its continuity upto 364 BCE when the coronation of Mahapadma Nanda happened as per the mainstream chronology!🔥

Not even one year added or subtracted!🔥

Every king aligns perfectly well. 🔥

Including Jarasandha's son Sahadeva, who was killed in the Kurukshetra War, his last descendant Ripunjaya, and the later Magadha kings like the famous Bimbisara and Ajatasatru as correctly contemporary to Buddha in the 6th and 5th century BCE, Mahanandin and his ouster by Mahapadma Nanda in 364 BCE.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 00:33
by Rudradev
Manish_Sharma wrote: 21 Apr 2026 22:31 https://x.com/Jijith_NR/status/2046447376437821660?s=20
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Contrast this with our chronology.

We correctly identify 3300-1900 BCE Early and Mature Harappan phases of Sarasvati Sindhu Civilization as the Rgvedic Period.

Our Santanu lived in 1950-1850 BCE, and the Kurukshetra War is dated to 1793 BCE.

Interesting, but here's the problem with this chronology.

The Sarasvati Sindhu Valley Civilization is now established to have originated approximately in 6000 BCE https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 337748.cms

So 3300 BCE is not an "Early" phase of the SSVC. It had been around for nearly 2700 years by that point, in centres like Bhirrana and Rakhigarhi.

If according to these folks the "Rgvedic Period" began only in 3300 BCE, are we to believe there was a pre-Vedic civilization in SSVC from 6000 BCE to 3300 BCE?

I don't think it's possible. The linguistic evolution of Sanskrit across the Mandalas of the Rg Veda itself, as demonstrated by Shrikant Talageri, must have taken much longer than the period between 3300-1900 BCE (i.e. 1400 years). It is likely to have been thousands of years. Languages do not change swiftly without the sudden and massive intercession of foreign cultures, and there is no archeological or paleogenetic evidence of any such intercession in the Indian subcontinent at this time. Also, the Rg Veda contains memories that range from very primitive, stone-age life (poetic analogies for the discovery of fire) to descriptions of vast, organized political and economic entities (the empire of Sudas and the Dasarajna war). These are accounts of a civilizational history spanning much longer than 1400 years.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 11:44
by Manish_Sharma
https://x.com/ShreeHistory/status/20471 ... 61803?s=20

The scent of biryani rising from a pot in Hyderabad or Lucknow carries the weight of history, yet the story told on menus often obscures the dish's true lineage. Popular convention attributes the recipe to the Mughal Empire, suggesting a Persian import that arrived with Babur in the sixteenth century. This narrative fits neatly into colonial frameworks that favored foreign origins for Indian sophistication, but linguistic and textual evidence suggests a far older and more indigenous ancestry. The very word biryani is often traced to the Persian birinj biryan, meaning fried rice, yet this etymology rests on shaky ground. The Persian word for rice, birinj, does not appear in Old Persian. It emerges in Middle Persian as a loanword from the Sanskrit vrīhi. Rice itself is not native to Iran, and the vocabulary traveled north from the Indian subcontinent where Oryza sativa was domesticated. Even the cooking method implied in the name connects to the Sanskrit root bhṛjjati, meaning to fry or roast. Both components of the supposed Persian phrase derive from Indic sources.

The journey of the word pulao offers further confirmation. Often cited as the precursor to biryani, the term pilaf traveled west from India, not east from Persia. Its lineage begins with the Tamil puzhungal, meaning cooked rice, which entered Sanskrit as pulāka before moving into Persian as pelâv and Turkish as pilāf. The vocabulary of rice cookery moved outward from South Asia, carrying the knowledge of the grain with it. Textual records support this linguistic trail. The Tamil Sangam poem Purananuru, dated around 150 BCE, describes māṃsaudana, a dish of meat and rice sealed in a clay pot and buried in ash. This technique, known later as dum, appears in the Yājñavalkya Smṛti around 300 CE and is detailed in the Mānasollāsa by 1131 CE. These texts predate the Mughal arrival by centuries. The first illustrated recipe for biryani appears in the Nimatnama of the Mandu Sultanate around 1500 CE, prepared by Malabari Muslim cooks in the Deccan before Babur crossed the Khyber Pass.

Perhaps the most telling evidence comes from the Mughals themselves. Court records refer to the dish as Hindavi Laziz, which translates to Indian delicacy. This was an internal acknowledgment that the food was local rather than imported. The label biryani may have standardized under Persian court language in the seventeenth century, but the dish it described was already ancient. Geography provides the final confirmation. Rice does not grow in the Central Asian steppes that were the original Mughal homeland. Babur's own memoirs detail the crops of his native land, mentioning cereals and melons, but rice is conspicuously absent. Basmati rice grows exclusively in the foothills of the Indian subcontinent. A people without rice could not have invented a rice dish. Food historians like K.T. Achaya and Pushpesh Pant argue that biryani is essentially Indian, developed via the Deccan route rather than Delhi. The Britannica notes that the dish was first recorded in the Deccan region, suggesting arrival via sea trading routes rather than land conquest. The conclusion forced by linguistics and text is straightforward. Biryani is an Indian dish with Sanskrit and Tamil ancestry, traveling under a Persian label that is itself a Sanskrit loanword. The Mughals gave it a name and a courtly saffron gloss, but they did not give it its existence. The kitchen, like the genome, carries its true history in its chemistry and its words.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 11:49
by Manish_Sharma
Rudradev wrote: 23 Apr 2026 00:33
https://x.com/Jijith_NR/status/2046447376437821660?s=20

Interesting, but here's the problem with this chronology.

The Sarasvati Sindhu Valley Civilization is now established to have originated approximately in 6000

So 3300 BCE is not an "Early" phase of the SSVC. It had been around for nearly 2700 years by that point, in centres like Bhirrana and Rakhigarhi.


Rudradev ji, Could you please post these points on x to the poster? so he can correct himself

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 19:15
by Rudradev
Manish ji, I am on permanent vanvaas from X :lol:

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 19:42
by uddu
https://x.com/i/status/2047302782529765501
@ShefVaidya
I don’t know what exactly it is that Gautam Khattar said, but here is what Xavier had to say about Hindus in HIS own words! Screen shots are from his letters, available on http://archive.com. Anyone can access it and see for themselves! Cc
@DrPramodPSawant

https://x.com/ShefVaidya/status/1027030366723354624
@ShefVaidya
While researching for my upcoming book on Goan History, here is what I found, in the words of Francis Xavier himself. Yeah, the same Jesuit Missionary who is deified as 'Goemcho Saib' and whose body lies in a church in Old Goa. These are HIS words.
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Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 20:24
by Manish_Sharma
Rudradev wrote: 23 Apr 2026 19:15 Manish ji, I am on permanent vanvaas from X :lol:
It's twitter's loss loss...

I have messaged them let's see if they answer!

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 21:22
by uddu
https://x.com/i/status/2047291317835923927
@OpIndia_com
Jesuit priest Francis Xavier: How did the pioneer of the Portuguese “Goa Inquisition” die in China, and what is the controversy over his “relics”
Full article:https://www.opindia.com/2026/04/saint-f ... is-relics/

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 23 Apr 2026 21:41
by Manish_Sharma

https://www.dharmadispatch.in/commentar ... structions

How the Marxist Historians Fooled the Country Without Doing any Research on Hindu Temple Destructions
The full story of how Marxist Historians fabricated the fiction that Hindu Kings had a tradition of destroying temples without doing any research on the subject

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 24 Apr 2026 03:53
by Vayutuvan
Manish_Sharma wrote: 23 Apr 2026 11:44 https://x.com/ShreeHistory/status/20471 ... 61803?s=20
Yājñavalkya Smṛti around 300 CE and ...
I thought Yājñavalkya Smṛti is older than 300 CE.

As per Wikipedia (which more or less accepts dates by Western Indologists, i.e., preferring later dates than earlier dates) says the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yajnavalkya
Yajnavalkya or Yagyavalkya (Sanskrit: याज्ञवल्क्य, IAST: Yājñavalkya) is a Hindu Vedic sage prominently mentioned in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad (c. 700 BCE) and Tattiriya Upanishad.[1][2][3][4] Yajnavalkya proposes and debates metaphysical questions about the nature of existence, consciousness and impermanence, and expounds the epistemic doctrine of neti neti ("not this, not this") to discover the universal Self and Ātman.[5] Texts attributed to him include the Yajnavalkya Smriti, Yoga Yajnavalkya and some texts of the Vedanta school.[6][7] He is also mentioned in the Mahabharata as well as various Puranas, Brahmanas and Aranyakas.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 24 Apr 2026 04:26
by bala
I refer to Yagyvalkya in Anandam article वल्क्यः valkya means bark of tree.

All characters in Veda are fictional to illustrate a point. There may have been people with similar names in India like Shankaracharya. Adi Shankaracharya is only 1 person from Kerala Nambodiri priestly clan.

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 24 Apr 2026 06:25
by Vayutuvan
@bala ji, are you saying yagnyavalkya smrti is as late as 300 CE Tamiz Sangham literature is older than yagnyavalkya smrti? Of course, I accept that there are several people with the same name. Case in point, as you pointed out, are Shankara (another name for "Adi" Shiva) and advaita founder Shankara. By that token, "Adi" Shankara is "aadi" Shiva himself.

Are we to take Shiva to be a fictional character then?

Re: Tradition, Culture, Religion & Law in Indian Society

Posted: 24 Apr 2026 07:44
by bala
Vayutuvan wrote: 24 Apr 2026 06:25 Are we to take Shiva to be a fictional character then?
Yes, the Vedas and others refer to Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma as forces that govern this universe and aspects of their forces are described. In Hindu culture latitude is given to worship them in a form that is relatable to the human mind since the mind is not used to abstract concepts. All three forces are at play at all times. With pralay or dissolution these forces vanish and what remains is the brahman nothing else. The Nasadiya Sukta of the Rig Veda describes such a situation very beautifully (there is no text on earth which even talks about such things other than the Vedas!).