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Trump announces an ‘External Revenue Service’

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^^The proposed ERS appears to be essentially hiving off some of the money-collecting functions of the existing CBP (Customs & Border Protection) into a different agency. Then the CBP would be focused only on border protection/immigration functions.

I suppose there could be some efficiency gains here, but not sure if they will be substantial. Until we get more information, it seems mostly like "busy work" to distract his support base.

For reference:

Existing CBP collections (tariffs/duties etc): < $100 B/yr
Existing IRS collections: $4.7 T/yr
US exports: $3 T/yr
US imports: $3.8 T/yr

Since Trump is hoping to hugely increase the collections from tariffs, he is probably wanting to create a separate agency for that. But the trade numbers and likely reciprocal tariffs don't make much of a case for substantial "external revenue" collections.

It is unclear how this affects the existing IRS. If the proposed ERS will also be responsible for taxing foreign income of corporates/individuals, and IRS only the US income, it would probably be chaos and create more bureaucracy. If Trump is planning to stop income taxation (i.e. close IRS altogether) and rely on tariff collections, that would appear to be a financial disaster.
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https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1879246034494435834
Jim Ferguson @JimFergusonUK

🚨 INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT: TRUMP AND MUSK VS. KAMALA HARRIS AND BRITISH LABOUR 🚨


The gloves are off. War Declared.

Donald Trump and Elon Musk have declared "war" on Kamala Harris and Keir Starmer's Labour Party, accusing them of orchestrating an illegal transatlantic alliance to meddle in the 2024 U.S. presidential election.

The Allegations:
🔴 Labour operatives, led by Sofia Patel, allegedly sent Britons to swing states like North Carolina, Nevada, and Pennsylvania to campaign for Harris, offering travel assistance and housing.

🔴 Labour’s dark tactics, including their strategy to “kill Twitter” through regulatory pressure and shaming advertisers, mirror their playbook for boosting Starmer’s leadership.

🔴 The Trump campaign alleges “illegal foreign national contributions” and coordination between Labour and Harris’ campaign, including shared messaging and resource strategies.

The Fallout:

Labour’s Head of Operations, Sofia Patel, has nuked her LinkedIn profile, but erasing evidence doesn’t undo the alleged wrongdoing.

Trump’s legal team has filed a formal FEC complaint, demanding an investigation into this unholy alliance.

Elon Musk, infuriated by Labour’s efforts to destroy Twitter, has thrown his weight into exposing Labour and Harris’ collusion.

What’s at Stake:

“The Labour Party apparently wants a like-minded U.S. president,” said Susie Wiles, a senior Trump strategist.

Labour’s actions have been labeled a “perfidious plan” to undermine Trump and bolster Harris through foreign interference.

The Bigger Picture:

This isn’t just about an election—it’s about sovereignty. Allegations of illegal cooperation, shared messaging, and even Starmer’s strategists meeting with Harris’ team raise serious questions about Labour’s role in the U.S. election.

With 7 days until President Trump reclaims the Oval Office, this scandal threatens to engulf Starmer, Harris, and their teams in a diplomatic firestorm.

This is more than meddling—it’s a full-blown transatlantic conspiracy. Justice is coming.
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vijayk wrote: 15 Jan 2025 04:35 https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1879246034494435834
Jim Ferguson @JimFergusonUK

INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT: TRUMP AND MUSK VS. KAMALA HARRIS AND BRITISH LABOUR

The gloves are off. War Declared.

Donald Trump and Elon Musk have declared "war" on Kamala Harris and Keir Starmer's Labour Party, accusing them of orchestrating an illegal transatlantic alliance to meddle in the 2024 U.S. presidential election.

The Allegations:
Labour operatives, led by Sofia Patel, allegedly sent Britons to swing states like North Carolina, Nevada, and Pennsylvania to campaign for Harris, offering travel assistance and housing.

Labour’s dark tactics, including their strategy to “kill Twitter” through regulatory pressure and shaming advertisers, mirror their playbook for boosting Starmer’s leadership.

The Trump campaign alleges “illegal foreign national contributions” and coordination between Labour and Harris’ campaign, including shared messaging and resource strategies.

The Fallout:

Labour’s Head of Operations, Sofia Patel, has nuked her LinkedIn profile, but erasing evidence doesn’t undo the alleged wrongdoing.

Trump’s legal team has filed a formal FEC complaint, demanding an investigation into this unholy alliance.

Elon Musk, infuriated by Labour’s efforts to destroy Twitter, has thrown his weight into exposing Labour and Harris’ collusion.

What’s at Stake:

“The Labour Party apparently wants a like-minded U.S. president,” said Susie Wiles, a senior Trump strategist.

Labour’s actions have been labeled a “perfidious plan” to undermine Trump and bolster Harris through foreign interference.

The Bigger Picture:

This isn’t just about an election—it’s about sovereignty. Allegations of illegal cooperation, shared messaging, and even Starmer’s strategists meeting with Harris’ team raise serious questions about Labour’s role in the U.S. election.

With 7 days until President Trump reclaims the Oval Office, this scandal threatens to engulf Starmer, Harris, and their teams in a diplomatic firestorm.

This is more than meddling—it’s a full-blown transatlantic conspiracy. Justice is coming.



vijayk ji,


the britshits badly need to be taken down a peg or two or three


it was very foolish of them to leave behind such a vivid trail, literally getting caught with their pants down and not to mention, the horrendous dangers of pissing off an adversary like trumpwa


no wonder mylapore maami was so hostile to trump and his wife during carter's funereal


A subset of these very same forces interfered in the "farmer's protests", orchestrated the dilli riots, as well as, influencing the recent Indian general elections where they acted against Modi ji and the BJP by manipulating the media, the opposition, wokes, commies and the urban naxals.


The GoI needs to take care of business here too.
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^^ Absolutely ... this British scums/Mi9 are behind every threat to us ... jihadi, Paki, Khakistani ... nothing makes me happier to see the Labour party noses rubbed against the floor and kept under check ...
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chetak wrote: 15 Jan 2025 01:35 Trump announces an ‘External Revenue Service’
lol...all the drama with ramaswamy and DOGE and this guy goes ahead and creates another department. :rotfl:
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Is it true that Tumpwa has not invited either Kier the 'Labour Kartha/Dartha' or the entitled 'First Family' of the 'Britanisthan'!!!
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Jay wrote: 15 Jan 2025 08:01
chetak wrote: 15 Jan 2025 01:35 Trump announces an ‘External Revenue Service’
lol...all the drama with ramaswamy and DOGE and this guy goes ahead and creates another department. :rotfl:
I thought that is what the Customs department is for. Trump can create ERS and transfer all the staff from IRS and claim he reduced the wasteful expenditure of the Fed Govt.
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SRajesh wrote: 15 Jan 2025 12:45 Is it true that Tumpwa has not invited either Kier the 'Labour Kartha/Dartha' or the entitled 'First Family' of the 'Britanisthan'!!!

SRajesh ji,
Donald Trump’s top U.K. ally Nigel Farage will attend the incoming U.S. president’s inauguration, despite a public spat with Trump pick Elon Musk.

Reform U.K. confirmed Tuesday that Farage — who leads the right-wing populist party — will be present at Trump’s second inauguration as president on January 20.

Farage is a longstanding ally of Trump, having first lent his support during the 2016 presidential campaign. He endorsed Trump again in both 2020 and 2024.

Trump described the Reform U.K. boss as “handsome” during a rally last year, and has given rare interviews on British television to Farage’s GB News program. Farage also attended Trump’s inauguration in 2016.

Speaking on LBC Tuesday, Farage said he will be in the U.S. for four or five days over the inauguration — and that while there he intends to speak with billionaire Trump ally Elon Musk, after a fall-out sparked by their differing views on the far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

Farage insisted too that Trump will remain his ally, despite his war of words with Musk.

“I’ve been a friend of Donald Trump’s for a decade, I’ve been very supportive of him, he’s been very supportive of me,” Farage said.

“I can’t see that changing for a moment,” he added.

The U.K. government is yet to confirm who will attend the inauguration on its behalf, though typically Britain’s ambassador to the U.S. — currently Karen Pierce while Peter Mandelson waits in the wings to take over — would attend for the British government.
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So Farage supports Trump, Starmer supports Harris. All in the open.
Seems interference from UK is bad for the other side, though not as bad as covert interference from Roos
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vijayk wrote: 15 Jan 2025 04:35 🔴 Labour operatives, led by Sofia Patel, allegedly sent Britons to swing states like North Carolina, Nevada, and Pennsylvania to campaign for Harris, offering travel assistance and housing.
Let's see. Promiscuous citizenship arrangements between the USA and UK mean plenty of people hold both passports. It would not be unusual or foreign interference if they sponsored dual citizens to help in USA elections.
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Now that tik tok is banned in the USA, I suppose they will not be able to lecture India or others about free speech rights. Their argument is Chinese govt controlling the company and that affects US national security. True that. National security should always trump (even if Trumpy does not like it - he wanted to negotiate about the ban) free speech whether it is in the USA or India. Few years ago when I was in China, there were always warnings in Hotels when I used the internet, that they are REQUIRED to report all our activity to the Govt. Google search hid lots of stuff (it showed different results in expat community or when I used remote desktop).
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An American view of US, Russia, China, India, Pakistan strategic history:
https://youtu.be/LbkO84MsmyM?si=wFluA6eRmDMtn8cS

I recommend, especially for newbies. It is from an American perspective, but does mention the chief strategic concerns of each of the players at each time period, the methods used to advance their goals, and the actions that boomeranged. Also provides a basic framework in which to understand geopolitical strategy.
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Watch Marco Rubio for the first time in US history targets China as bigger threat than Russia. The US Deep State is uncomfortable with this new thrust since they are part and parcel of the Chinese threat to the US.

US President-elect Donald J. Trump's pick for Secretary of State Marco Rubio during his Senate confirmation hearing said it lies on America to address the China issue since the 'once developing' nation now threatens America as a tech and trade adversary.



// the Dems have consistently aided China to become a threat to the US. China is also a threat to India and the rest of Asia. Chinese greed and land grabbing knows no limit, they have a dispute with all neighbors including Russia. Time for the Indian handlers to exploit this opening by the US to its advantage.
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saip wrote: 17 Jan 2025 21:06 Now that tik tok is banned in the USA, I suppose they will not be able to lecture India or others about free speech rights. Their argument is Chinese govt controlling the company and that affects US national security. True that. National security should always trump (even if Trumpy does not like it - he wanted to negotiate about the ban) free speech whether it is in the USA or India. Few years ago when I was in China, there were always warnings in Hotels when I used the internet, that they are REQUIRED to report all our activity to the Govt. Google search hid lots of stuff (it showed different results in expat community or when I used remote desktop).



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With TikTok facing a potential ban in the United States, more than 700 million users have shifted over to REDNote, another Chinese video-sharing app that resembles ByteDance’s TikTok. Some creators are also flocking to Lemon8, YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels, which also offer a TikTok-like vertical video scrolling interface.

While REDNote has already secured the number one app spot on the Apple App Store, the problem with the app is that several UI elements are still in Mandarin, and the majority of content on the platform is created by Chinese users, albeit with a few exceptions.

Capitalising on the trend, Duolingo announced it is launching a new AI-powered video calling feature for Android phones that helps you learn Mandarin. In a recent post on X (previously Twitter), Duolingo said that the app has seen 216 per cent growth in new Mandarin learning in the United States, which can be attributed to US users trying to learn the language to use REDNote.
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With TikTok facing a potential ban in the United States, more than 700 million users have shifted over to REDNote....
How do you have 700 million users in a country with less than 350 million people?
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saip wrote: 18 Jan 2025 20:56
With TikTok facing a potential ban in the United States, more than 700 million users have shifted over to REDNote....
How do you have 700 million users in a country with less than 350 million people?
There are approx 500 million firearms in the US
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Hope our leaders and the government are taking in the torrent of change that is awaiting us. We may have had some insight into much of this already but our capability to take advantage of the time and the opportunities has been minimal.

This is the Peter Anderson interview of Marc Anderson who claims to be an "unpaid intern" for DOGE. https://youtu.be/YqeI7iViRmE?si=TxAj8NrqfmhCnAzd

The last 20 mins are especially salient for India.
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Is the good old game of institutional money laundering back in the land of Milk & Honey? As if there was shortage of crypto digital currencies, a new digital cryptocurrency/coin ($TRUMP) *allegedly* tied to new el prezident went live recently, few days before inauguration. Prices ran from few cents to approx. $30 in very short span of time taking the valuation to approx. $6 billion.

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/18 ... 2168249386

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/0 ... s-in-hours

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/official-trump/

Is it possible to buy influence in the incoming administration by buying some of these coins? :wink:
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saip wrote: 18 Jan 2025 20:56
With TikTok facing a potential ban in the United States, more than 700 million users have shifted over to REDNote....
How do you have 700 million users in a country with less than 350 million people?

saip ji, this is across multiple platforms in the US, with many of the amrikis presenting on multiple platforms

With TikTok facing a potential ban in the United States, more than 700 million users have shifted over to REDNote, another Chinese video-sharing app that resembles ByteDance’s TikTok. Some creators are also flocking to Lemon8, YouTube Shorts and Instagram Reels, which also offer a TikTok-like vertical video scrolling interface.
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vijayk wrote: 15 Jan 2025 05:35 ^^ Absolutely ... this British scums/Mi9 are behind every threat to us ... jihadi, Paki, Khakistani ... nothing makes me happier to see the Labour party noses rubbed against the floor and kept under check ...
+101 .. the East India company might have gone, these buggers are now after the resources of other countries .. esp Ukraine to start with
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Whatever, the 700 million figure still sounds like Shanghai/Sialkot statistics.
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chanakyaa wrote: 19 Jan 2025 00:04 Is the good old game of institutional money laundering back in the land of Milk & Honey? As if there was shortage of crypto digital currencies, a new digital cryptocurrency/coin ($TRUMP) *allegedly* tied to new el prezident went live recently, few days before inauguration. Prices ran from few cents to approx. $30 in very short span of time taking the valuation to approx. $6 billion.

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/18 ... 2168249386

https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/0 ... s-in-hours

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/official-trump/

Is it possible to buy influence in the incoming administration by buying some of these coins? :wink:
Land of Milk & Honey or Land of CON men!! :rotfl: What a joke this country has become!

One is a zombie and no one knows who is in charge! Another is running crypto scams before inauguration ...

https://x.com/PhilHollowayEsq/status/18 ... 1228587504
Joe has been signing executive orders without knowing what he’s signing, and not remembering what he’s signed
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Hindenburg Research, that had issued a report "exposing" malpractice in Adani's companies, and causing their market value to crash, is closing shop. The Indian Supreme Court had found the Hindenburg report had little substance. A lot of Indian investors lost a lot of money over this. Would this give an Indian court jurisdiction over Hindenburg just like the Americans used the "US investors' money was use" to indict Adani's associates with bribery in India?

In general it leads to a question that probably merits a thread of its own - does the Government of India recognize the various forms of economic warfare against India, and what is its strategy to handle it? IMO, India does not realize the knives that will out for it as it rises in the world economic rankings.
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It’d only be fitting if we open an investigation ourselves in India, to know who were the Indian faces involved in hammering Indian cos down based on their fake allegations.

We’d come out as wimps if we don’t open our own investigation



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Looks like Vivek R has gotten a talking to, Since his stand for H1Bs the wignats have been seething and he's having to take a little bit of a break from the spotlight. Wondering if it's a momentary break or has trump been spooked enough to sideline him.

Musk made the same comments but he's white so the leash is much much longer.
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Plain reading of deploying military to the border implies less scope for foreign wars.

Trump to issue 10 executive orders
The planned orders include declaring a national emergency to deploy military personnel to the border, suspending refugee resettlement and ending birthright citizenship
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AkshaySG wrote: 21 Jan 2025 01:16 Looks like Vivek R has gotten a talking to, Since his stand for H1Bs the wignats have been seething and he's having to take a little bit of a break from the spotlight. Wondering if it's a momentary break or has trump been spooked enough to sideline him.

Musk made the same comments but he's white so the leash is much much longer.
Sir, I do not know the source of your information, here are some of publicly know facts:
VR wants to run for the governership of Ohio
The campaign will kick off in couple of months
He will be focusing on state issues to win the race
If he focuses on H1B in Ohio the Dems will eat him alive and that would be the end of his political carrear

As for "gotten a talking to" who would do that?
Musk also got his ass chewed out by the rightwing crowed
Believe me VR is not the type who will step away from spotlight (right from his high school days in Cincinnati, Ohio).
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‘Gender is unchangeable’: Donald Trump expected to sign an executive order defining sex as either ‘male’ or ‘female’




America will have only two genders-Male and Female, announces Trump



President-elect Donald Trump will sign executive orders to dismantle diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and recognize only two sexes, male and female, upon taking office.

These orders will also stop federal funding for gender ideology promotion and transition medical procedures, indicating imminent further actions on similar topics.


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr
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chetak wrote: 21 Jan 2025 02:51 ‘Gender is unchangeable’: Donald Trump expected to sign an executive order defining sex as either ‘male’ or ‘female’




America will have only two genders-Male and Female, announces Trump



President-elect Donald Trump will sign executive orders to dismantle diversity, equity, and inclusion programs and recognize only two sexes, male and female, upon taking office.

These orders will also stop federal funding for gender ideology promotion and transition medical procedures, indicating imminent further actions on similar topics.


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr
thats one good thing !! .. the lgbtq non sense has reached ridiculous proportions
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chetak wrote: 19 Jan 2025 00:12
saip wrote: 18 Jan 2025 20:56
How do you have 700 million users in a country with less than 350 million people?

saip ji, this is across multiple platforms in the US, with many of the amrikis presenting on multiple platforms
A one-minute google search gives the true figure: about 170 million TikTok users in the US. About 100 million are active users as of Dec 2024.

They do have about 1.5 billion users worldwide. I don't know what this "700 million" is about. Maybe it means that 700 million users/content creators around the world are nervous (i.e. losing their US contacts/viewers) and are switching.
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VinodTK wrote: 21 Jan 2025 02:22
AkshaySG wrote: 21 Jan 2025 01:16 Looks like Vivek R has gotten a talking to, Since his stand for H1Bs the wignats have been seething and he's having to take a little bit of a break from the spotlight. Wondering if it's a momentary break or has trump been spooked enough to sideline him.

Musk made the same comments but he's white so the leash is much much longer.
Sir, I do not know the source of your information, here are some of publicly know facts:
VR wants to run for the governership of Ohio
The campaign will kick off in couple of months
He will be focusing on state issues to win the race
If he focuses on H1B in Ohio the Dems will eat him alive and that would be the end of his political carrear

As for "gotten a talking to" who would do that?
Musk also got his ass chewed out by the rightwing crowed
Believe me VR is not the type who will step away from spotlight (right from his high school days in Cincinnati, Ohio).
Well now he's officially out of DOGE https://apnews.com/article/vivek-ramasw ... ce=Twitter

Secondly look at his tweeting frequency and content before the H1 issue and after, He's essentially taken a 2-3 week noticable hiatus when every other Trump guy was on a victory lap.

Ohio gubernatorial election isn't till Nov 26 and unlike the presidency the campaign doesn't really pick up heat till much later this year. If they wanted to im pretty sure they could have had him continue w Elon and rack up some policy wins/ efficiency cuts etc

And doge isn't an elected role so it's not like he would had responsibilities for votes or bills tying him to DC like a cabinet position would so it being taken away.

In Politics you will never get confirmations of each decision but reading the room it does paint a picture that there has been some blowback for Vivek
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drnayar wrote: 21 Jan 2025 02:54
chetak wrote: 21 Jan 2025 02:51
thats one good thing !! .. the lgbtq non sense has reached ridiculous proportions
It's really not a "good thing". The excesses of "LGBTQ+" policies/activists definitely must be curtailed, and yes some of the DEI policies have been pretty "out there".

Not everything in "LGBTQ" can be conflated. Here Trump is specifically targeting "TQ", not the others.

But not being able to understand (and handle) gender and sex issues properly is Abrahamic cretinism which you think is "good". A few crypto-Xtians like Chatur Ramaswamy support it while fully knowing that it is not compatible with sanatana dharma.

The sanatana dharma acknowledges the gender and sex complexity and depicts it in multiple forms. In Bharat, three genders are officially recognized and have equal rights. An Indian citizen can list their gender as M, F, or T in documents. Most states in Bharat have "transgender welfare boards" (some of which are active, most have not started working yet). Are such things bad according to you, while Abrahamic cretinism is "good" ?

I hope Bharat will become a model country in handling such issues in a sensible manner. The world has suffered enough from Abrahamic cretinism. More from bharat sarkar:

Details of equal opportunity policy of 2024: https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereadd ... 075108.pdf

Summary here: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2024/02 ... er-people/
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AkshaySG wrote: 21 Jan 2025 03:53 ...
VinodTK wrote: 21 Jan 2025 02:22 ...
I thought Chatur - consummate brown-noser that he is - would get to hang around Trump much longer than Musk...but it does look like he has been quietly removed from DOGE and asked to run for OH governor in 2026...that is pretty risky since he may not even win the GOP primary. He has no base in OH as far as I know. He was also not picked to get Vance's vacated senate seat.

Looks like the racist MAGA "mini-war" on X over Indian H1Bs has claimed both Chatur and Laura Loomer (another Trump hanger-on).

From what I hear, the amount of abuse heaped on Indians by white MAGA people was really something.

Meanwhile I understand that "a flood" of lawsuits against DOGE will begin to be filed tomorrow in federal courts. I see that 3 suits have already been filed. It will be an interesting battle, including the public spectacle of governance chaos.
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KL Dubey wrote: 21 Jan 2025 04:56
AkshaySG wrote: 21 Jan 2025 03:53 ...
I thought Chatur - consummate brown-noser that he is - would get to hang around Trump much longer than Musk...but it does look like he has been quietly removed from DOGE and asked to run for OH governor in 2026...that is pretty risky since he may not even win the GOP primary. He has no base in OH as far as I know. He was also not picked to get Vance's vacated senate seat.

Looks like the racist MAGA "mini-war" on X over Indian H1Bs has claimed both Chatur and Laura Loomer (another Trump hanger-on).

From what I hear, the amount of abuse heaped on Indians by white MAGA people was really something.

Meanwhile I understand that "a flood" of lawsuits against DOGE will begin to be filed tomorrow in federal courts. I see that 3 suits have already been filed. It will be an interesting battle, including the public spectacle of governance chaos.



KL Dubey ji,


he was offered vance's vacated seat and trumpwa was quite set on this, but he wasn't keen because that seat only had two years left of its term


at this time, he does not seem too keen to run for political office, apart from his one aborted run at the presidency, but he may well be looking for a solid opportunity to build his own political capital


he is a smart guy with a mind of his own and may well have personal plans, not involving public office or even a political role. That DOGE nonsense will leave him highly unpopular with many voter communities and render him politically vulnerable, placing his future at considerable risk


He has already established, beyond any shadow of doubt, that he is a go getter, and will be an asset to any team that may offer him a significant position


from what I personally thought, he would have accepted some sort of "secretary" of this or that type of job to burnish his halo and pimp up the CV, and obviously he may have some sort of a plan in place that may get revised from time to time, based on how the new ecosystem pans out for him


all will be revealed, in the fullness of time
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chetak wrote: 21 Jan 2025 06:11 KL Dubey ji,

he was offered vance's vacated seat and trumpwa was quite set on this, but he wasn't keen because that seat only had two years left of its term
I doubt if Chatur had much of a choice in the matter. Its likely the Trump team is making this look like a "chanakyan" move to cover up/distract media attention from the already squabbling MAGA factions.

I find it harder to believe that he declined the senate seat due two only 2 years term, but instead was happy to be in DOGE which itself claims its work would be completed by July 2026 and will be wound up then.
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KL Dubey wrote: 21 Jan 2025 06:42
chetak wrote: 21 Jan 2025 06:11 KL Dubey ji,

he was offered vance's vacated seat and trumpwa was quite set on this, but he wasn't keen because that seat only had two years left of its term
I doubt if Chatur had much of a choice in the matter. Its likely the Trump team is making this look like a "chanakyan" move to cover up/distract media attention from the already squabbling MAGA factions.

I find it harder to believe that he declined the senate seat due two only 2 years term, but instead was happy to be in DOGE which itself claims its work would be completed by July 2026 and will be wound up then.

KL Dubey ji,

you can believe what you damn please

that was the discussion on SM.

Obviously he is not being offered what he thinks he deserves, but then again, no one wants to piss off a very unpredictable and also vengeful trump, so the guy is caught in a bad place, like between the devil and the deep blue sea, and so, his best option is to maybe ride it out and hope that something better comes up

The seat in the senate is a political wilderness with no upside to it, as he has no voter base or even the voter recognition advantage in vance's district

Moreover, if trumpwa buggers up his presidency, then vivek, trapped in the senate, will be mere road kill
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AkshaySG wrote: 21 Jan 2025 03:53 If they wanted to im pretty sure they could have had him continue w Elon and rack up some policy wins/ efficiency cuts etc
They just made their first efficiency "cut" - Chatur :lol: Sorry couldn't resist. Seems very French revolution-esque...those who thirsted to make heads roll found their own heads rolling a few rounds later.
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Dubey ji, what's this idle speculation on VR? Please do that on some SM channel.
Vivek was very much next to Trump and Vance families during swearing in. You seem to be getting some glee by saying VR is being sidelined.
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Here is the list of all 42 Executive Orders, Memoranda, and Proclamations Signed by President Donald Trump

1.Declaring a National Emergency at the Southern Border

2.Designating Mexican Drug Cartels as Foreign Terrorist Organizations

3.Reinstating the ‘Remain in Mexico’ Policy
4.Ending Birthright Citizenship for Children of Illegal Immigrants

5.Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism

6.Eliminating Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) Programs in Federal Agencies

7.Withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement

8.Declaring a National Energy Emergency

9.Reversing Electric Vehicle Mandates

10.Implementing ‘Schedule F’ for Federal Employees

11.Relocating U.S. Space Command Headquarters to Alabama

12.Pardoning Individuals Convicted in Relation to January 6 Events

13.Halting Federal Funding for Abortion Services

14.Suspending Security Clearances for Officials Linked to Hunter Biden Scandal

15.Establishing a Federal Bitcoin Reserve

16.Releasing Classified Documents on JFK, RFK, and MLK Assassinations

17.Reversing AI Regulation Policies

18.Imposing Tariffs on Imports from China, Mexico, and Canada

19.Reinstating the Ban on Transgender Military Service

20.Prohibiting Transgender Women from Participating in Women’s Sports

21.Halting Government Offshore Wind Leases

22.Renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America

23.Reverting Mount Denali to Mount McKinley

24.Freezing Federal Workforce Hiring

25.Easing Regulations on Oil and Gas Production

26.Pausing Congress’ TikTok Ban to Seek a U.S. Buyer

27.Reversing Biden-Era Immigration Policies

28.Pulling Out of the World Health
organisations

29.Eliminating Federal Funding for DEI Programs

30.Establishing the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

31.Reinstating the ‘Muslim Ban

32.Ending Birthright Citizenship

33.Reforming the Criminal Justice System

34.Banning Critical Race Theory in Federal Agencies

35.Demanding Increased NATO Contributions

36.Confronting China on Trade Practices

37.Ending the War in Ukraine

38.Supporting Law Enforcement

39.Promoting School Choice

40.Restricting Refugee Admissions

41.Increasing Federal Focus on Fentanyl Trafficking

42.Launching a National Infrastructure Plan

Source: https://x.com/HSirohiiii/status/1881541853075648854
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