Miscellaneous Pictures - Indian Military

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 04 Aug 2009 21:29

Rahul M wrote:nice one !

We should get this into BR Gallery as well

.

neeraj · Post by **neeraj** » 05 Aug 2009 13:42

Zittara aka Tavor

Source
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/army- ... or/497932/

rkhanna · Post by **rkhanna** » 05 Aug 2009 18:26

Zittara aka Tavor

Thats not the Zitara. The Zitara is the name given to the M-TAR SMG not the Tavor series AFAIK. While we do have ToT to build the Tavor we are only concentrating on the MTAR first and not the TAR-21

soutikghosh · Post by **soutikghosh** » 06 Aug 2009 00:25

One more pic of Sikhs in Royal Army

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2457 ... 7pr004.jpg

Signaller Simranjit 'Sim' Singh (right) and Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh are the first Sikhs to guard Her Majesty The Queen

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 06 Aug 2009 00:41

soutikghosh wrote:One more pic of Sikhs in Royal Army

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2457 ... 7pr004.jpg

Signaller Simranjit 'Sim' Singh (right) and Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh are the first Sikhs to guard Her Majesty The Queen

What is that run down buiding behind them , high schoool or library?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 06 Aug 2009 08:14

soutikghosh wrote:One more pic of Sikhs in Royal Army

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2457 ... 7pr004.jpg

Signaller Simranjit 'Sim' Singh (right) and Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh are the first Sikhs to guard Her Majesty The Queen

Why does the image look photoshopped to me?

KiranM · Post by **KiranM** » 06 Aug 2009 10:20

shiv wrote:
soutikghosh wrote:One more pic of Sikhs in Royal Army

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2457 ... 7pr004.jpg

Signaller Simranjit 'Sim' Singh (right) and Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh are the first Sikhs to guard Her Majesty The Queen
Why does the image look photoshopped to me?

It looks fake to me too. If you see the shadow made by the gun on the torso of the blokes, at the same angle, towards us, a large shadow of the building should be seen. But we dont.

sohamn · Post by **sohamn** » 06 Aug 2009 10:32

This is definitely an edited pic. Moreover in front of Buckingham the guards never pose like that, never. and it looks to me like the guards are standing outside, since the space between the palace and the boundary is not huge.

ParGha · Post by **ParGha** » 06 Aug 2009 16:24

shiv wrote:
soutikghosh wrote:One more pic of Sikhs in Royal Army http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2457 ... 7pr004.jpg Signaller Simranjit 'Sim' Singh (right) and Lance Corporal Sarvjit Singh are the first Sikhs to guard Her Majesty The Queen
Why does the image look photoshopped to me?

It is legit. The media is going gaga over their new duties for some time now, and the MoD is not shy of some free multi-cultural publicity either

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 06 Aug 2009 20:27

Prem wrote: What is that run down buiding behind them , high schoool or library?

that would be the former home of the duke of buckingham, appropriated by the crown and later used as a residence. currently used partly as one but more importantly as a living museum to generate funds for the upkeep of the estate

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 06 Aug 2009 22:06

What is the big deal about a few Sikhs serving in a foreign army ? People are falling over each other like India has taken back Kohinoor

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Aug 2009 01:48

depends on who'se falling over. there is a big PR issue in the UK about Sikh soldiers, its a visible sign that some communities are integrating and being a constructive part of the national picture. its a reminder to the natives that not all immigrants are bad people who want to blow you up in the underground or live off your taxes in free benefits. in that context, those images serve a purpose. its a bit like when governments send out broadcasts calling for "unity"... there's usually a reason behind why that call is required

sorry must go before someone labels me a raj apologist again, or tanaji thinks i am calling him a nazi

BajKhedawal · Post by **BajKhedawal** » 07 Aug 2009 06:42

Lalmohan wrote:depends on who'se falling over. there is a big PR issue in the UK about Sikh soldiers, its a visible sign that some communities are integrating and being a constructive part of the national picture. its a reminder to the natives that not all immigrants are bad people who want to blow you up in the underground or live off your taxes in free benefits. in that context, those images serve a purpose. its a bit like when governments send out broadcasts calling for "unity"... there's usually a reason behind why that call is required {As demonstrated couple of days ago when a Double Decker bus carrying 60 sardarni's to a excursion broke down and burnt. passing motorists shouted/gestured obscenities, some suggested the ladies get back on the burning bus}

sorry must go before someone labels me a raj apologist again, or tanaji thinks i am calling him a nazi

While Lal professors post makes sense from brit point of view, I somehow feel the issue to be a derogatory reminder to the Indians of rajmata victoria. I would rather die/kill than be in those sikh guards shoes.

I also think this is more of a brit snub to the French turban ban.

m mittal · Post by **m mittal** » 07 Aug 2009 06:55

Someone deleted my post........

The one who deleted my post.......can you please give me a reason for deletion???

Omar · Post by **Omar** » 07 Aug 2009 07:04

This is definitely an edited pic. Moreover in front of Buckingham the guards never pose like that, never. and it looks to me like the guards are standing outside, since the space between the palace and the boundary is not huge.

its also possible that the pic above isn't manipulated especially if the photographer used a digital camera with his flash on and took the picture at a close distance. i've had this happen to me when I used the flash on my kodak z740 5.1 megapixel camera at close quarters-the photographs usually ended up like what we see above.

live in US and I will NEVER serve Barak Obama.

There is no honor in posting such pics

chill out man...

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 07 Aug 2009 08:19

sohamn wrote:This is definitely an edited pic. Moreover in front of Buckingham the guards never pose like that, never.

Are these Sikh soldiers part of any Guards battalion (Coldstream,Irish,Welsh,Grenadier,Scots). Then there would be also an issue about the "bearskin cap" (Sikhs have to wear turbans). Or is it that at some times, the Guards battalions get replaced by other units?

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 07 Aug 2009 08:32

m mittal wrote:Someone deleted my post........
The one who deleted my post.......can you please give me a reason for deletion???

its moved to http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 56#p712856 and there is a discussion going on there.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 07 Aug 2009 09:03

This is what a portrait function on a digital camera is supposed to do. It brings the subject into sharp focus while blurring the background a bit. I enlarged the pic, to see the areas behind the hairs (This is usually where photoshoppers leave a telltale sign.
The verdict is that it seems genuine.

Those sikhs are british citizens. What has a brit citizen joining its army got to do with hurt feelings amongst some people here? Is there a law which says that someone following a certain religion should serve in the indian army onlee.
I don't see people crib when monty panesar bowls for the brits.

Eat curry, don't worry.

sombhat · Post by **sombhat** » 07 Aug 2009 11:10

Gagan wrote:This is what a portrait function on a digital camera is supposed to do. It brings the subject into sharp focus while blurring the background a bit. I enlarged the pic, to see the areas behind the hairs (This is usually where photoshoppers leave a telltale sign.
The verdict is that it seems genuine.

While in the digital age, all we can think of is photoshop and digicams, the Brits here seem to have pulled off a very old trick. Its a photo taken in a good old studio, with a good old background (pardah) with a photo of the Bunk in Ham palace. Notice the perspective angle of the pic and you will get it.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 07 Aug 2009 12:42

Sachin

blue turban is army air corps, black turban is signals (cap badge is visible). you are right in that traditionally only the foot guards regiments could actually guard the palaces, plus the guards cavalry. i suspect that with increasing strain due to deployments and the ever shrinking defense budget that other regiments are now performing ceremonial duties. anyway the guards are supposed to be on active duty for half their time, so probably either in theatre or in R&R postings and numbers are short.

incidentally, in previous years there was a lot of hoo-haa about sikh soldiers and policemen wearing turbans in the UK, the fact that the mainstream media is celebrating turban wearing sikh guardsmen is an indication of how much things have moved in this regard. the canadian mounties have had a similar issue, but i noticed atleast two red turban wearing canadian athletes at the olympics last year. I don't think its anything specifically anti-french, as i said elsewhere the preoccupation is with islamic icons not other religions.

its also only about 10-15 years that the british army has allowed black soldiers to serve in the guards regiments. the world is changing...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 07 Aug 2009 15:52

sombhat wrote:
Gagan wrote:This is what a portrait function on a digital camera is supposed to do. It brings the subject into sharp focus while blurring the background a bit. I enlarged the pic, to see the areas behind the hairs (This is usually where photoshoppers leave a telltale sign.
The verdict is that it seems genuine.
While in the digital age, all we can think of is photoshop and digicams, the Brits here seem to have pulled off a very old trick. Its a photo taken in a good old studio, with a good old background (pardah) with a photo of the Bunk in Ham palace. Notice the perspective angle of the pic and you will get it.

Let's face it - I think this is one of the worst publicity pics I have seen - even if it is meant for that and not photoshopped - I mean in terms of composition and content.

The two soldiers stand out so sharply in contrast to the dull, blurred background that it looks artificial. The men are in 72 gazillion colors and the building appears to be 25 colors - if you get what I mean. Nothing is complete in the picture - the building is randomly cut off, and not even vertical. The legs of the man on the left are cut off and both the legs and left shoulder of the man on the right are cut off. There is even half a car sticking out of the right shoulder of the man on the left.

They appear to be from different units and have been asked to grin for the camera while striking an attacking pose with covers on their guns, bayonets and scopes.

For a publicity photo the photographer gets 1.5 out of 10 for me. That is 1 mark for no camera shake and 0.5 marks for not cutting someone's head off.

Omar · Post by **Omar** » 08 Aug 2009 04:22

For a publicity photo the photographer gets 1.5 out of 10 for me. That is 1 mark for no camera shake and 0.5 marks for not cutting someone's head off.

Waits for the discussion about lack of discipline in UK army to ensue....

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 09 Aug 2009 00:23

In this photo released by the Indian Navy, an Indian Navy ship, top, and its boarding team’s small speed boat approach the Indian dhow MV Nafeya, bottom, in the Gulf of Aden waters, Wednesday, July 15, 2009. The Indian dhow with 14 Indians on board that was hijacked off Boosaaso, Somalia on July 10 by pirates and released after being robbed was escorted to safety by an Indian warship, according to a press release. All 14 crew members were confirmed as safe.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 12 Aug 2009 19:51

Wednesday, August 12, 2009
Mahindras Hand Over First Armoured Anti-Terror Vehicle 'Marksman' to Mumbai Police

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/08/ma ... -anti.html

karthik · Post by **karthik** » 12 Aug 2009 21:41

pmund wrote:Guys, came across a great pic of manekshaw as a cadet at Indian Military Academy

Looks a lot like Ataturk!

atreya · Post by **atreya** » 12 Aug 2009 21:49

Rahul M wrote:

Wednesday, August 12, 2009
Mahindras Hand Over First Armoured Anti-Terror Vehicle 'Marksman' to Mumbai Police

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2009/08/ma ... -anti.html

Than looks mean!!

A few months ago, the Mahindra Axe news had cropped up. What is its status?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 13 Aug 2009 06:53

karthik wrote:
Looks a lot like Ataturk!

Not in my opinion. Not at all.

All men with a hat and moustache look similar by the standards of comparison you are calling for. Enlarge both faces and cut the faces out and paste them together in a single image and you will find that the angle of the view, the moustache and hat are the main similarities. Arguably the prominent cheekbones may be similar - but nothing else.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 13 Aug 2009 07:02

Counter Infiltration Measures at LoC

atreya · Post by **atreya** » 13 Aug 2009 12:00

VinodTK wrote:Counter Infiltration Measures at LoC

In the first pic, isn't the soldier holding MGL? I did not know, it was in use in the IA

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 14 Aug 2009 04:41

I thought this was an excellent picture (From cover of Vayu)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_jpRroRLCaYc/SoSfL ... age0-1.jpg

but I am now disappointed.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 14 Aug 2009 04:44

How COULD they do that!!!???

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 14 Aug 2009 06:27

Actually - I'm happy. There appears to be some SDRE who is aware of the value of photoshop and psy ops and the power of showing more from less.

It takes a while for the truth to appear - unlike the pic of the Mirage 2000 dropping a clutch of iron bombs over the Himmer-layer mountains

andy B · Post by **andy B** » 14 Aug 2009 06:30

^^^ I agree on the face of it, it does look like a good pic and I think in most cases people are not inquisite enough to always spot the differences very good for psy ops

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 14 Aug 2009 11:49

if he hadnt botched that small part, it would have been a bit more difficult to find out. But as is I ignored the most obvious part and found out only when I saw that the left hand seat pilot was bending forward and staring at the camera in all the three aircraft

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 14 Aug 2009 13:37

Lots of give aways, the tail numbers are all identical, the pilots are the same, blue sky through canopy even when there is a/c right behind it and fills up the rest of the frames.

But yes, I would probably not look for those if I didnt know that I should look for errors.

dinesha · Post by **dinesha** » 14 Aug 2009 13:46

http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/Articl ... e=2&mode=1

Guarding Indp. Day: Black Cat, SPG, DP
All of the SPG guys are using 3 point harness.. what could be the bulge under the left hand of the SPG guy in extreme right be? It looks too big for a Magz..

mahan · Post by **mahan** » 14 Aug 2009 23:31

Just spotted its the same SPG guy

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/thum ... sizemode=4
photo taken back in 2008

http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/Articl ... e=2&mode=1
taken in 2009 (pic 2)

Lol!

karthik · Post by **karthik** » 15 Aug 2009 00:54

shiv wrote:
karthik wrote:
Looks a lot like Ataturk!
Not in my opinion. Not at all.

All men with a hat and moustache look similar by the standards of comparison you are calling for. Enlarge both faces and cut the faces out and paste them together in a single image and you will find that the angle of the view, the moustache and hat are the main similarities. Arguably the prominent cheekbones may be similar - but nothing else.

I was referring to that particular pic, he reminded me of Ataturk in that one, he was a great man to. In this picture the cheekbones did make them look similar although in later years Manickshaws appearance became more distinct.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 15 Aug 2009 16:41

atreya wrote:
VinodTK wrote:Counter Infiltration Measures at LoC
In the first pic, isn't the soldier holding MGL? I did not know, it was in use in the IA

ags-17 plamya, in IA for quite sometime now.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 15 Aug 2009 17:16

A National Security Guard soldier stands guard inside The Legislative Assembly Building in Srinagar. Two Indian army soldiers and three Muslim militants were killed in separate gunbattles in revolt-hit Kashmir, officials said Friday.

Indian Special Task Force soldiers board a vehicle in Srinagar on August 1. Four Muslim militants and an Indian soldier were killed in a gunbattle in Indian Kashmir close to the Pakistan-controlled section of the disputed region, the army said Sunday.
(AFP/Tauseef Mustafa)