J & K news and discussion

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 26 Oct 2010 16:11

For suzanne roy India is Hindu majoritarian upper casteist brahminical state which brings daleets/'shoodars' from cuddalore to fight innojent muslims in Cashmere.This is a natural progression in their world view.That is why christists,maoists,all got together in Delhi.Every single thug who gathered should be given the treatment including suzanne,if the Congress Govt has any backbone.

It is one thing engaging local rag tag elements which may have 'grievances' but another when an open call to seccession is given by anarchists.

Were the 'daleets' forcibly conscripted? Did she try to find out why they chose to fight in Cashmere? Were the 'daleets' from cuddalore the only group join the Army from Tamizhnaadu.The GOI should put an end to the misery of this s%[email protected] hatred stemming from christist intolerance to India is on display.

christism= hatred of india based on complete cutting of Indian roots,a fanatical belief in Christianity masked by anarchism.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Oct 2010 16:16

I met young stone pelters who had been shot through their eyes.

Possible?

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 Oct 2010 16:27

More and more it seems that the lady is insane and imbalanced at the mental level.
Some level of paranoid schizophrenia is surely present, given her penchant for conspiracy theories, single minded blaming of the state for all evils, and now this dalits from cuddalore buried in heaps of garbage!

She needs to be isolated from the social pressures for her own safety.

If there was one person who deserved to have his / her citizenship revoked, this is a fit case. The drivel that she has dished out over the years is in no way any less serious and seditious than some others who have been punished similarly.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 26 Oct 2010 16:40

She has donned the soosai vest.. She knows she will go down, perhaps that's what she wants - eternal glory in the books of those who (in her opinion) are going to win..

Like Porkis, she should be denied this legitimacy. Ridicule is the only resort to tackle such "moojahids"..

http://www.fakingnews.com/2010/10/comic ... dhati-roy/

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Oct 2010 16:45

Arundhati does not realize that KV is just 30 by 70 km big. J&K will not get Azaadi if there is secession. J &K will get Islamic Rule and Sharia. Large scale displacement of population will occur. India will brace for millions of more refugees. What about the Buddhists of Ladhak and Leh? What about the Hindu's and Sikhs of Jammu. We all know the guarantees Islamic law provide to minorities within it's borders. Kashmiri's won't get Azaadi. They'll get their musharaffs whipped under sharia. Thats where they are heading with the Geelani's. Ladhak will be promptly taken over by the Chinese. Paki's will hold on to POK. All that the Hurriyat will be left of in control is possibly at the most a 30 km by 70 km area which again in due time will be consumed by Pakistan. The short sightedness of these traitors is simply amazing.

amit · Post by **amit** » 26 Oct 2010 16:46

Her problem is she's publicity hog.

Very early in her life she got the Booker and the attendant fame and spotlight. That hooked her. However, being a one book wonder she was soon forgotten and so she jumped into the Narmada andolan with Medha Patkar. One may not agree with Medha Patkar (I certainly don't) but one has to admit she's sincere to her cause. When Roy jumped into the bandwagon I think she did more harm to that agitation than good. Her polemics alienated a lot of people. And the worst thing the govt did then was to jail her.

Now she's popped up along with the Maoists and now the Separatists thugs in the Valley. I think the worst thing that the govt can do at this point is to arrest her. I suspect her latest statement with its lip service to the Pandits (why doesn't she speak to Geelani about the plight of the Pandits) and the Dalits is calculated to raise temperatures so that the government is pressured into arresting her. However, I'm happy to see Moily's initial reaction saying "Oh her statement is rather unfortunate."

The best way to take care of her is to simply ignore her.

However, I think the govt should investigate one thing. Since she's close to the Maoists and the thugs in the Valley, I hope she is not used to establish relations between the two. We've see reports of the ISI trying to recruit the Maoists. Methinks she's vile enough to jump into such an enterprise with enthusiasm.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 26 Oct 2010 16:54

Xposting from nukkad:

abhischekcc wrote:Regarding Suzanna Arundhoti Roy and the martyr complex, here is the entry on wikipedia. Read and shudder how many similarities you find in that and SAR. Posting in full for the benefit of the crowd here. My comments are in saffron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr_complex

Martyr complex
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In psychology, a person who has a martyr complex, sometimes associated with the term victim complex, desires the feeling of being a martyr for his/her own sake, seeking out suffering or persecution because it feeds a psychological need.

In some cases, this results from the belief that the martyr has been singled out for persecution due to exceptional ability or integrity. Note that SAR's crusades began after she got acclaim for Gawd of Small Things. Theologian Paul Johnson considers such beliefs a topic of concern for the mental health of clergy. Like the clergy class of any religion, she is entirely self willed and does not understand any moral law other than her own self fuelled fantasies Other martyr complexes involve willful suffering in the name of love or duty. This has been observed in women, especially in poor families, in codependant or abusive relationships. This also fits SAR like a glove. Before her book, she financially insecure, working a variety of odd jobs, even an aerobics instructor. She has had one failed marriage before. It has also been described as a facet of Jewish-American folklore.[5]

The desire for martyrdom is sometimes considered a form of masochism.[6] Allan Berger, however, described it as one of several patterns of "pain/suffering seeking behavior", including asceticism and penance.[7]

amit · Post by **amit** » 26 Oct 2010 16:54

Gagan wrote:If there was one person who deserved to have his / her citizenship revoked, this is a fit case. The drivel that she has dished out over the years is in no way any less serious and seditious than some others who have been punished similarly.

Gagan,

That's precisely what she wants. Some stupid Nordic country will welcome her with open arms. She'll be the toast of Western media and she'll use the same media to pen more hate against India.

I think she's desperate to get a reaction from the govt, either a jail term (where she'll be kept in some airconditioned facility with 5 start comfort) or a revoking of her citizenship. If she goes to jail, she'll come out within 10 days and then talk about the atrocities committed on her and how despite that she will not bow down and some such trash. And publications like Outlook will lap it up and give her acres of space for her to vomit her bile.

No, the best thing is to just ignore her and let the furore die down after a few days. That's the best way to treat her - simply ignore her. The message to the rest of the world will be that in India you can say such things and still you're not put in the cooler because the country believes in free speech. And the more she vomits like this the less number of admirers she will have in India. Already a vast majority are disillusioned with her.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 Oct 2010 17:12

The idiot is thinking India == Cheena biladhel. That human rights in India == humus rights in cheena.
The natural follow on to that is that if one cheena gentleman who dissed his gobernment could win a nobel, as have so many others who have dissed their gobernments, she might too.

Booker prize has made her Bhookhad (भूक्कड़) (Indic translation: Greedy) for attention and scandinavian adulation.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 Oct 2010 17:16

The state's legal system has tremendous capacity to harass an individual. She needs to go through that.
That'll make sure she has lesser time to play truant. Some judge and some police station SHO need to call her to report to them one day a week (on different days) for the next few months to ease the pressures that have built up in her mind.

Yes, I think that she has donned the soosai vest - very apt observation.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 26 Oct 2010 17:18

^^^Having said that, there's no doubt her publicity-horing is working. She's been the toast of most mainstream tv channels all day today, seems like with the 'sedition' thingie splashed across screens.

Her ultimate coup-de-etat would be if sri obama or even smt michelle were to deign to meet with her. And knowing unkil, its all too possible only. Another lever against yindia - ready made and all that. Soon, every visiting 'dignitary' will make meeting her a to-do thing, like meeting rajmata.

Our tolerance of nuisance, like the garbage on our streets, will be our undoing. Perhaps. Jai ho and all that.

The state's legal system has tremendous capacity to harass an individual. She needs to go through that.
That'll make sure she has lesser time to play truant.

Err, no. Not if the indiv concerned wants to get arrested and jailed for contempt of court or some such. Indian justice sys would be walking straight into her trap. She's played her cards well, seems like. Anti-nationals 1, Yindia 0.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Oct 2010 17:24

Remarks by Geelani & Arundhathi unfortunate: Moily
That's all that you could come up with, Mr. Moily ? Are you too busy with political developments in your home State ?

“Yes, there is freedom of speech...it can’t violate the patriotic sentiments of the people,” he said

No sir, it is not 'patriotic sentiments'. It is b***dy sedition. I think 'watering down' has already been started by the Congress. Arundhathi/Geelani know well that they will go scot free and that is what emboldens them to behave like this.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 26 Oct 2010 17:30

best to ignore her, she is 'courting arrest' as it were

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 26 Oct 2010 17:51

She's like the pig in the mud wanting to pick up a fight.
If GoI goes in, the fight will be ==, GoI will get dirty, and the pig will enjoy it.

My solution: Send in another pig(s) in to fight her, while one can stand by the sidelines and ensoi popcorn and sharbat.

That is an anti national statement she's made after all...

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 26 Oct 2010 17:54

no gagan, without anyone to fight she will run out of air time
the current hoo haa is her attempt to gain air time

thayilv · Post by **thayilv** » 26 Oct 2010 18:28

Why cant GOI fine her a cartload of money. Most often, hitting them at the bank would hurt them the most. When people realize she can afford to pay such a huge sum, they will automatically realize that she's not really a part of the people she claims to represent.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 26 Oct 2010 18:40

Lal mullah, no these things are not for publicity. Especially she is afraid now and is trying to state that what she meant is freedom etc etc. She do speak for publicity at other places. These was not such a thing. But all leads to one aim of more mayhem and destruction in India. This has to stop.
What's needed is that we must stop thinking from the point of terrorists and criminals. No wonder India is such a soft weak state where every terrorist or criminal can conduct rallies, speak anything and even justify killing openly and they go unpunished. There need to be a change in these kind of an attitude from the government part as well. The people are really troubled and upset with these kind of things. A nation of India's greatness must not let such criminal and terrorist activities against the nation and it's people go unpunished. Then what's the use of calling ourselves Indians. If someone fears that some stupids will award her something then let them do it. Why should you be bothered. It only takes the reputation of such countries away. The only thing is that we have to demolish anyone who dare speak against the Indian people. With Vigor and continuously for ever. Enough with these terrorists and criminals and stop thinking from other peoples perspective of what they may think etc. We must only speak for ourselves. What's good for us need to be done. What's bad for us need to be eliminated. That's the only way forward for the Indian nation and the people of India.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 26 Oct 2010 18:42

harbans wrote:
I met young stone pelters who had been shot through their eyes.

Possible?

Must have met Terminator IV.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Oct 2010 18:48

X post

Asinine Roy's interview on Kashmir to BBC Urdu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/multimedia/20 ... udio.shtml
I think we should expect a Nobel award for her from her masters some time soon as was done in China's case.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 26 Oct 2010 18:48

harbans wrote:Arundhati does not realize that KV is just 30 by 70 km big. J&K will not get Azaadi if there is secession. J &K will get Islamic Rule and Sharia. Large scale displacement of population will occur. India will brace for millions of more refugees. What about the Buddhists of Ladhak and Leh? What about the Hindu's and Sikhs of Jammu. We all know the guarantees Islamic law provide to minorities within it's borders. Kashmiri's won't get Azaadi. They'll get their musharaffs whipped under sharia. Thats where they are heading with the Geelani's. Ladhak will be promptly taken over by the Chinese. Paki's will hold on to POK. All that the Hurriyat will be left of in control is possibly at the most a 30 km by 70 km area which again in due time will be consumed by Pakistan. The short sightedness of these traitors is simply amazing.

She knows everything very well. And is party to all such anti-Human right acts in the guise of human rights. These are deliberate not that she is a small kid not knowing anything. Don't understand who is behind these people or it can be a purely disturbed mind. She don't show any kind of mental illness as such. So is it pure Maoist ideology that has made her mad, like the ideology of Pakistan corrupting the minds of Pakis who see a hand of India everywhere? Can any grand mullahs shed some light on this issue of what's the main reason for these kinds of anti-India activities?

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 26 Oct 2010 18:49

at the risk of being labelled, i will say this
many of the counters to arundhati etc., are of the "shut them up" variety - which are starting to resemble the CPC drone attacks that are all the rage north of the himalayas
i believe a stronger approach is to counter each arguement and play the media game intelligently - not with anger, but with reason and rationale (not defensive having to justify, but on the offensive)
its harder, but can be done
i don't much care for the CPC random noise generator approach

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 26 Oct 2010 18:50

Lilo wrote:X post

Asinine Roy's interview on Kashmir to BBC Urdu.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/multimedia/20 ... udio.shtml
I think we should expect a Nobel award for her from her masters some time soon as was done in China's case.

Has Nobel peace has any value today? People realized its real importance after Mr.Obama received it.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 26 Oct 2010 18:52

Lalmohan wrote:at the risk of being labelled, i will say this
many of the counters to arundhati etc., are of the "shut them up" variety - which are starting to resemble the CPC drone attacks that are all the rage north of the himalayas
i believe a stronger approach is to counter each arguement and play the media game intelligently - not with anger, but with reason and rationale (not defensive having to justify, but on the offensive)
its harder, but can be done
i don't much care for the CPC random noise generator approach

That's the media part. But the government must do their part of punishing these criminals.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 26 Oct 2010 18:52

I agree she should not be arrested but ridicule/ignoring her is not enough.The mindset she represents is found in the Church,with advance apologies to all who believe in Jesus.A stern message has to go.

Any movement with roots in India -Ambedkar,Periyar,Sikh exclusivism howmuchever ignorant or receiving foreign support deserve our consideration for they draw inspiration from within and have inspired social reform.I would even 'respect' thiagu or vara vara rao but the message has to go to the Church.The Indian nationalists there will have no problem but the darker side of the Church whose visible manifestation is Suzanne must get the message.Otherwise Suzanne is going to spawn many clones in many parts of India.The Islamist agenda is far more open.We need to link Suzanne to her religion,which is nothing but the truth.

Let us not forget what Gandhiji,Swami Vivekananda and Radhakrishnan had to say about the Church.

Many stalwarts here take a soft view.This is the greatest weakness of Hinduism.Many technocrats are so well accomplished and have an innate sense of decency that they give the 'benefit of doubt' to the underlying ideology.It does not help that we acknowlege the weaknesses of India/Hinduism and are engaged in reform for a long time now.But Indian Christism is so one dimensional and is convinced that Hindooism is unadulterated evil.When I read so many here,the onus is always on the law abiding,sdre.The law of Karma is evil but it has to endured by the mango abdul sanatani hindu because he( ie his ancestors) exploited others in the past but not a word about the powerful hegemonies being put in place which has to be ignored/'ridiculed'.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 26 Oct 2010 19:07

Watch the double standards of congress.

Quick to demand punishment of political opponents but watches silently when indian nation is attacked

http://www.dailypioneer.com/292350/Miff ... rrest.html

An incensed Congress today demanded immediate arrest of Sharad Yadav for his remark against Rahul Gandhi and said the JD(U) president had lost his mental balance even as Yadav sought to explain away saying his statement was "not at all" directed against Gandhi.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 26 Oct 2010 19:10

Lalmohan wrote:at the risk of being labelled, i will say this
many of the counters to arundhati etc., are of the "shut them up" variety - which are starting to resemble the CPC drone attacks that are all the rage north of the himalayas
i believe a stronger approach is to counter each arguement and play the media game intelligently - not with anger, but with reason and rationale (not defensive having to justify, but on the offensive)
its harder, but can be done
i don't much care for the CPC random noise generator approach

My thoughts exactly.
But i see the opinions of Journalists and opinion makers who take this up being ignored by the mainstream media led by likes of burkhas and sardesais and N.Rams.

How can we purge the indian media of this rot?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Oct 2010 19:28

GoI does not intend to take any action against SAS Geelani & Arundhathi Roy

The Union government has no intention of filing criminal charges against Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani, the writer Arundhati Roy and others who spoke in favour of ‘Azadi’ for Jammu and Kashmir at a seminar in the Capital last week, highly placed sources told The Hindu on Tuesday.

With Dileep Padgaonkar, Radha Kumar and M.M. Ansari urging those Kashmiris raising slogans in favour of ‘azadi’ to put their thoughts down in writing, the irony of criminalising mere speech has not been lost on New Delhi.

“We knew the BJP would try and make the holding of the seminar an issue,” the sources said, adding that police permission to hold the public event was given because the organisers could easily have gone to court if the authorities had tried pre-emptively to gag them. The meeting was thus videographed and the proceedings have been scrutinised. {So, the Delhi Police's claim, which I quoted before here, were completely false ! What a shame that GoI is so scared of Islamists and separatists and thinks nothing of fooling Indians to accommodate these scum bags.}The sources said Ministry of Home Affairs permission was not needed for the police to file a case of sedition but added that North Block did not believe charging or arresting Mr. Geelani and Ms. Roy made any sense.

“Geelani himself has said some 70 cases have been filed against him so let there be a 71st,” the sources said. They also admitted – as Ms. Roy herself notes in a statement issued Tuesday – that scores of people in the Valley say every day what the writer and the Hurriyat leader are accused of saying at the meeting. If the two of them are now to be arrested for sedition for giving a speech, then so would scores of people in Srinagar. {What a fine and shamless argument. I hope this does not encourage separatists in other parts of the country to adopt a similar approach. I doubt if this source, which The Hindu quotes, had really applied his/her mind before making these arguments}

The sources welcomed the efforts the three interlocutors had made so far and said the Centre’s aim was to begin a broad political process with all sections of the people in the state but especially with those who say they want autonomy and azadi.

negi · Post by **negi** » 26 Oct 2010 19:30

There is no analogy between us and CPC random noise generator in fact by doing so one has already conceded the point to the separatists.Comparing separatists to dissidents in PRC or even in Myanmar is akin to A Roy comparing the J&K to presence of Unkil in IRAN, IRAQ or even Israeli occupation in gaza. The first issue which needs to be settled is to rap the bozos in parliament who are playing petty politics over such issues it is the politicization of a simple law and order problem that manifests itself into
such huge mess. The onus is on the GoI to discard the 'sentimental' prism and view everything from a strict law and order perspective the picture would be much clearer and things would fall in place. Sadly the usage of different yardsticks for different communities has widened the fault lines and MMS has himself to blame for this mess.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 26 Oct 2010 19:35

Folks, why do we have a law against sedition ?

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 26 Oct 2010 19:36

i made no such comparison, i commented on some posters on this forum

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 26 Oct 2010 19:37

SSridhar wrote:Folks, why do we have a law against sedition ?

raj hangover no?
all good congresswallah's have done jail time for this right?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 26 Oct 2010 20:12

She is an 'malignant Narcissist". Look that symptom up in a good psychology text book.

As its psychological conditon its also needs psychological treatment.

Lalmohan its not a raj hangover. Sedition is a crime in a modern nation state. Its the civilan counterpart of rebellion ie rebelling with ideas and words as opposed to armed rebellion.

A modern nation state cannot allow itself to be broken up from within or without.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Oct 2010 20:23

Reading Wiki looks Suzanne is wavering more to Treason than Sedition..

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

The penalty in China for this would be summary execution or at the minimum 30 years hard labor and reeducation.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Oct 2010 20:56

Anyone pro-India, not necessarily die-hard jingos like us will tell you that it is precisely to preserve the idea of India, to precisely eliminate all of India's faults that Suzzana Roy loves to revel about, India cannot afford to surrender to Isalmo fascism in Kashmir. At the root of Suzzana's gripes are the very idea of India itself.

amit · Post by **amit** » 26 Oct 2010 20:58

I think one needs to look at timelines. This is a deliberate provocation from both A Roy and Geelani to provoke GoI to arrest them a few days before Ombaba's visit.

That would effectively move the narrative away from business, strategic cooperation etc to civil rights, freedom of expression and of course Kashmir. What a nice way to force Kashmir to centrestage during Ombaba's visit. You can well imagine how Pakistan would go into overdrive.

To repeat, arresting them would be walking straight into the trap. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole sequence of events were planned by ISI and conveyed to their Munna Geelani. I don't think they have direct contact with A Roy. But they don't need to, she hates India and the Indian way so much that she'd sign on to any nefarious activity which can hurt India.

It would be interesting to know what her sources of sustenance are?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Oct 2010 21:00

Even in India, someone like Suzzana would have been shot to death if her target of attack were not Hindus. By couching her se(a)distic India hatred in caste terms, she is playing on the caste fissures, and hence escapes a concerted Hindu retaliation.

amit · Post by **amit** » 26 Oct 2010 21:08

CRamS wrote:Even in India, someone like Suzzana would have been shot to death if her target of attack were not Hindus. By couching her se(a)distic India hatred in caste terms, she is playing on the caste fissures, and hence escapes a concerted Hindu retaliation.

CRS,

It is precisely comments like this which plays into the hands of traitors like A Roy. Shot to death? You mean if she had said something nasty about, say Muslims, the GoI would have had her shot to death? Or are you talking about Muslim death squads getting her?

In the first case you are implying that the GoI does get people shot to death for what they say and your gripe is the fact that in this case they are not doing that because she went after Hindus.

If its the second instance it would mean you admire the way Muslims solve their problems (by shooting people to death when they say inconvenient things) and at the same time you are lamenting on the cowardice of Hindus for not being able to get people like A Roy shot.

Boss, please don't score self goals. I know you're angry but so are we all.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 26 Oct 2010 21:13

Gagan wrote:The idiot is thinking India == Cheena biladhel. That human rights in India == humus rights in cheena.
The natural follow on to that is that if one cheena gentleman who dissed his gobernment could win a nobel, as have so many others who have dissed their gobernments, she might too.

Booker prize has made her Bhookhad (भूक्कड़) (Indic translation: Greedy) for attention and scandinavian adulation.

She is backed by the same groups that backed the LTTE and support rabid militancy in North Eastern India. It is not jihadi support but the northern European groups that back this behaviour.
Obviously this is not fully orchestrated by her.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 26 Oct 2010 21:17

amit wrote:
CRS,

It is precisely comments like this which plays into the hands of traitors like A Roy. Shot to death? You mean if she had said something nasty about, say Muslims, the GoI would have had her shot to death? Or are you talking about Muslim death squads getting her?

In the first case you are implying that the GoI does get people shot to death for what they say and your gripe is the fact that in this case they are not doing that because she went after Hindus.

If its the second instance it would mean you admire the way Muslims solve their problems (by shooting people to death when they say inconvenient things) and at the same time you are lamenting on the cowardice of Hindus for not being able to get people like A Roy shot.

Boss, please don't score self goals. I know you're angry but so are we all.

Not scoring any self goals. I was responding to this

harbans wrote: The penalty in China for this would be summary execution or at the minimum 30 years hard labor and reeducation.

How many times have we not heard many in current Indian govt, either directly or indirectly blaming Hindus: Gujarat, plight of Muslims etc, whenever there is a terrorist attack. So, yes, If Indian govt wanted to, they could have been more aggressive with Suzzana. I can bet you, if Bal Thackeray had made such a rabble rousing speech, MMS himself would have stepped on the plate.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Oct 2010 21:18

Amit, i think you've taken CRamji's statement in a wrong way. Take Taslima Nasreens' example. She spopke against Muslims and was hounded out of her country. Then came to India and a few years later even the GOI could'nt keep her here. So it's true one can get away making statements against Hindu's but not against others here. MF Hussain i guess is an exception, but i doubt he has any death threat aor been banned from entering the country. I agree with your take it will be playing into a trap if Suzanne is arrested, and the GOI may be playing it down.