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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 03:30
by Anujan
Mahendra wrote:I've had enough of this glorifying of the SSG by the Indian media, as if this SSG is some invincible unit of super-men. Just cut the trash and call them what they are -Terrorists with more specialised training
Many of them were given their 72 by our jawans when they made an attack on our posts in siachen. They were personally supervised by gen bandicoot. That started his life long obsession of cutting logistics lines to siachen.
After the lal masjid operation, a purer green blew himself up in ssg mess giving many their 72.
SSG did commendably well against the women and children holed up in lal masjid though.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 03:31
by Cosmo_R
venug wrote:Indian media is very sympathetic to TSP, no idea why, I find it strange that instead of being sensitive about the loss of Indian soldiers' lives and how they were mutilated, these people are going lengths to appease TSPians and their Indian counterparts on their shows. And they call it balanced journalism? aren't they Indian first and then journalists later? what happened to their responsibilities and duties as Indian citizen? it should be them who should be at the forefront of investigation and report how and what TSPian terrorists have done in the first place, instead they are weaving stories, and these are the same guys who win awards in journalism, shame on them for the lack of integrity.
This is from Al Guardian but the story has been in the open for some time now. And of course, the Zee News/Jindal affair
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greensl ... edom-india
If BC and other media cos can openly solicit sponsored stories and good press from Indian firms what makes anyone think that the ISI is not in on the action and buying stories?
Indian 'journalists' are not 'reporters' who need to meet the ethical standards of the NYT. They are
advocates. Their publishers are in the business of selling advertising and PR disguised as 'content'
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 03:42
by MurthyB
You had me until
Cosmo_R wrote:
Indian 'journalists' are not 'reporters' who need to meet the ethical standards of the NYT. They are advocates. Their publishers are in the business of selling advertising and PR disguised as 'content'
..ethical standards as determined by the CIA/Pentagon/State department depending on whose turf it primarily is..
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 03:47
by Suppiah
Allah!!! Praise be to you...best day in Pakbarics land in a long time...May this record be eclipsed again and again
Great way to pay homage to the two brave soldiers....
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 03:56
by dnivas
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 130111.htm
century..
Pakistan has come under a new wave of militancy piousness as more than 100 people were killed while around 260 others sustained injuries in four different blasts across the country on Thursday.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 03:57
by Suppiah
Interesting factoid...both the treacherous sewerage turds that spread pro jihadi lies in Indian yellow media have s.it in their very name..sai means SH.t in a Chinese dialect hokkien and is a popular swear word in Mal/Sing among Chinese...
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 04:03
by Cosmo_R
MurthyB wrote:You had me until
Cosmo_R wrote:
Indian 'journalists' are not 'reporters' who need to meet the ethical standards of the NYT. They are advocates. Their publishers are in the business of selling advertising and PR disguised as 'content'
..ethical standards as determined by the CIA/Pentagon/State department depending on whose turf it primarily is..
One can be cynical but the NYT and Wapo did do the Pentagon Papers and Watergate. Today, NYT or Wapo may be bullied by the DOS or DOD into doing/not doing on the basis of 'access' and 'exclusives' BUT
individual reporters are held to very stringent standards. Just Google reporters fired for ethical lapses and you'll see what I mean.
OK , whether or not you believe that, and you certainly have that right to not believe, the larger and more important point is that Indian journalists and publishers don't have any qualms or requirements about advocacy disguised as content.
PS. Whether or not the US press submits to GOTUS, they don't get bought by companies and certainly not by foreigners under aman ki asha stuff.
JMT
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 04:03
by dnivas
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/ ... 1P20130110
At least 101 people were killed in bombings in two Pakistani cities on Thursday in one of the country's bloodiest days in recent years, officials said, with most casualties caused by sectarian attacks in Quetta.
The first attack, in a crowded snooker hall, was a suicide bombing, local residents said. About ten minutes later, a car bomb exploded, they said. Five policemen and a cameraman were among the dead from that blast.
The attacks happened in a predominately Shia neighborhood and banned sectarian group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi claimed responsibility
The United Baloch Army claimed responsibility for a blast in Quetta's market earlier in the day. It killed 11 people and injured more than 40, mostly vegetable sellers and secondhand clothes dealers, police officer Zubair Mehmood said. A child was also killed.
The group is one of several fighting for independence for Balochistan, an arid, impoverished region with substantial gas, copper and gold reserves, which constitutes just under half of Pakistan's territory
yipee
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 04:42
by RamaY
At this rate, the world will not even blink if we kill 365,00 pakis per year
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 04:51
by Ambar
Question for SSridhar : Who is behind this Qadri chap ? Most people believe its the "establishment", but that beats the purpose of investing so much time and money on Imran Khan. Secondly, MQM - which has more often than not been in loggerheads with the TSPA is joining the march to Islamabad. There could be 2 possibilities in my opinion : 1. The guy is funded by the west - in which case the march to Islamabad should be fun to watch 2. TSPA realizes Imran Khan may not be popular enough to pull off an outright victory, so why not prop up another figure who touches the more conservative base. Or i could be totally wrong, and Qadri could just be a nutcase like that water agha khan who has made a country full of morons wake up and take notice.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 04:56
by MurthyB
Cosmo_R wrote:
One can be cynical but the NYT and Wapo did do the Pentagon Papers and Watergate. Today, NYT or Wapo may be bullied by the DOS or DOD into doing/not doing on the basis of 'access' and 'exclusives' BUT individual reporters are held to very stringent standards. Just Google reporters fired for ethical lapses and you'll see what I mean.
OK , whether or not you believe that, and you certainly have that right to not believe, the larger and more important point is that Indian journalists and publishers don't have any qualms or requirements about advocacy disguised as content.
PS. Whether or not the US press submits to GOTUS, they don't get bought by companies and certainly not by foreigners under aman ki asha stuff.
JMT
When it comes to foreign reporting, there is no doubt that these NYT 'reporters' follow a state dept/CIA script. Just look at their reporting on India going back through the ages. I follow India because I am from there, and think I understand something about it. I am not from Nigeria, so may read whatever the NYT says as the 'ethical', 'unadulterated' truth, but then I remember what what they report on India, and remember to take it with a large dose of salt.
The domestic agenda might be different. But then there are also the Tehelka guys in India who busted politicians. They had an agenda? But same could be said of Democrat/Republican biases for NYT reporters.
The 'aman ki asha' stuff is not necessarily a foreign thing. The GOI is the one that is pushing it the most, and we know well it is the ISI and deep state in pukistan that is most suspicious of it. So to claim that Indian journos are doing the ISI's bidding in pushing monkey tamasha does not compute.
Finally, I will say the unsayable a bit: many things lead me to think that India's covert ability to wreak havoc in pukistan through 'non-state actors' is not zero as we are prone to believe. What if GOI is playing good cop to RAW's bad cop, both being faces of the same Indian supreme national interest? What if India did have a hand in, say, attacking the Sri Lankan cricket team, and virtually destroying pakistani cricket in the process? Then what if India is the one that can save them again (a strategy being pursued by GOI again)? Too many unknowns to make a simplistic call.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 05:07
by Harish
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pakistani-soldier-killed-in-renewed-bout-of-hostilities-along-LoC/articleshow/17974523.cms
Sadly, it is left to the IA to avenge the blood of its fallen braves. In any normal nation, such an incident would provoke massive outrage on the streets and in the parliament. No such luck in India though.
Sources said the beheading of an Indian soldier of the 13 Rajputana Rifles on Tuesday (January

has inflamed passions in the Army. "It has become a matter of izzat (honour)," a senior officer said, indicating that the force would hit back at Pakistan at a place and time of its choosing. The honour of the platoon (paltan in Army lingo) and their regiment can become the driver in conflict situations, often trumping other considerations.
And rightly so.
Thursday's clash was a confirmation, with Indian jawans seething with anger over the killing of their comrades and brutalization of their bodies, that the already volatile Line of Control will remain red-hot at least in the near-term.
The IA can and does avenge the blood of its own. That's the reason the pakis brown their shalwars at the very thought of facing the IA in Kashmir. Good to see that the IA has enough operational freedom to take actions that keep the pakis in their place, despite the fact that sphagetti-spines are calling the shots in the dilli sultanate.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 05:23
by Prem Kumar
Good century today but on an easy pitch. TTP & LeJ need to prove themselves on more difficult pitches like Pindi, Lawhore and Isloo
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 05:35
by Anujan
Usually paki establishment has created a spectrum of choices to take on the incumbents. For example MMA and PMLQ. the former was for the beards and the latter for feudals. I think they are doing the same with immy , duffer e bakistan and qadri. Immy is a nationalist jihadi with urban appeal. Duffer e bakistan is fully jihadi and qadri is a moderate face.
It is not true that MQM has been at loggerheads with jernails. Altaf called for jernails to overthrow the govt a few months back.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 06:36
by shiv
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 06:43
by Anindya
Somehow, I dont think issues such as this will come up in the "Aman ki Aasha" discussions....
Pakistani markings on bombs, ammunition seized from Maoist attack site
NEW DELHI: Grenades and ammunition made in Pakistan were among the items recovered from the site of the Maoist attack in Jharkhand, sources said, adding a fresh twist to the ongoing India-Pakistan stand-off.
Sources said a couple of grenades, pieces of blasted grenades and fired cases of bullets recovered from Latehar in Jharkhand have clear markings to show that they were manufactured in Pakistan. All ammunition contain details of the originating country, so do all the recovered ammunition from Latehar, where 11 CRPF jawans were killed and their bodies booby trapped with explosives.
It is for the first time that ammunition with Pakistani markings have been recovered from Maoists. In the past, some Chinese ammunition have been recovered.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 06:55
by Prem
Is this Tahir ALie of Rediff ROPEorter from Jinnexcretealand ?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:00
by arun
shiv wrote:
serves the fukirs right.
Government controlled press of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s “deeper than oceans” and “higher than the Himalaya’s” friend, P.R. China, is reporting 116 killed in the various demonstrations of the IEDology of Pakistan including the IED Mubarak variant on Thursday:
116 killed, 235 injured as four blasts rock Pakistan
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:01
by SSridhar
Woke up to the pleasant news of a century overnight. But, the revenge for the two should be entirely different.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:06
by Theo_Fidel
Couldn't have happened to a better bunch of bigots.
Is it just me or is the Shia retaliation lacking in 'punch' these days?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:07
by partha
No need to do a bg check on Waj S Khan to know that he is a Pak army hack. Just going through his twitter timeline should be enough.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:08
by Prem
arun wrote:
Government controlled press of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s “deeper than oceans” and “higher than the Himalaya’s” friend, P.R. China, is reporting 116 killed in the various demonstrations of the IEDology of Pakistan including the IED Mubarak variant on Thursday:
116 killed, 235 injured as four blasts rock Pakistan
Number dont make any sense to Kaffirs . I know Allah do work mysteriously . Is it 72 (9)+36 (9)+8 (x8)=72 ? Also9x9-8=72 Then how do one explain 235 violating the law of Paki Allah? 116+235=351(3+5+1=9) and 9x8=72 , the holiest number and confirmation, approval of holy reward. Pakistan is original 72stan.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:32
by partha
http://tribune.com.pk/story/488992/lets ... versities/
By Pervez Hoodbhoy
Dr Y followed a similar trajectory. A professor at Punjab University (PU), he became renowned for producing a research paper every couple of weeks and soon clocked up a few hundred publications. It turned out that all these articles were reproductions of papers already existing on the internet. When the scandal eventually broke, the PU did not dismiss him. Taking early retirement, Y moved on and became dean at another university. There, he spent his time putting together a book with chapters stolen from great scientists of the 20th century. Once this wholesale plagiarism was exposed, a second early retirement quickly followed. But, wonder of wonders, Y is now vice chancellor of a university in Lahore!
One professor — let us call him Dr Z — recently received the
Pride of Performance Award from the Government of Pakistan 
. Sarcastically referred to by Daudpota as ‘Pakistan’s Euler’, he has been publishing one mathematics paper every week, year after year. A mass of evidence exists that Z is a cheat. Daudpota has demanded that the authorities investigate but his complaint will be just more water splashing off a duck’s back.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 07:59
by lakshmikanth
Harish wrote:
Thursday's clash was a confirmation, with Indian jawans seething with anger over the killing of their comrades and brutalization of their bodies, that the already volatile Line of Control will remain red-hot at least in the near-term.
The IA can and does avenge the blood of its own. That's the reason the pakis brown their shalwars at the very thought of facing the IA in Kashmir. Good to see that the IA has enough operational freedom to take actions that keep the pakis in their place, despite the fact that sphagetti-spines are calling the shots in the dilli sultanate.
Jawans seething with anger will be bad news for the morale if the Army top brass and the Delhi sultanate manage to prevent a retaliation from our side. It will send a message that we have lost. Worst is if the Jawans who lead the retaliation are punished. It will then send a message to the officers that being WKK is the way to get promoted.
Tactically brilliant Bakis are therefore, as expected, begging 3.5 to put pressure on India to prevent retaliation and crying wolf whenever a slight provocation occurs. The chindu 5th columnist are also helping the pakies directly or indirectly.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:05
by abhijitm
Cosmo_R wrote:
PS. Whether or not the US press submits to GOTUS, they don't get bought by companies and certainly not by foreigners under aman ki asha stuff.
JMT
Indian media specifically NDTV and CNN-IBN are congress goons. Like US media Indian media too is highly regulated. Whatever these channels vomit is fed by the government. All this nonsense will end when UPA governance will end.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:06
by Anand K
>> Partha's post
I dug a bit on Daudpota-ji and found this treasure trove. Read it all!
Pakleds Unite!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:06
by Suppiah
SSridhar wrote:Woke up to the pleasant news of a century overnight. But, the revenge for the two should be entirely different.
Heard it at Singapore airport, it was top item in morning news...even ahead of California school shooting..hope it becomes so routine they don't report it...
WKKs are going beyond useful idiocy. This is treachery. Hope they get their dues
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:14
by abhijitm
lakshmikanth wrote: 5th columnist are also helping the pakies directly or indirectly.
directly, consciously and deliberately. Need to keep a watch on them. This has been going for quite some time now and looks like has blessing from a VVIP faction within GoI.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:15
by putnanja
partha wrote:
No need to do a bg check on Waj S Khan to know that he is a Pak army hack. Just going through his twitter timeline should be enough.
Isn't it his best friend Burkha Dutt who invites all these guys to their show? Maybe he should speak to her
BTW, what were the preposterous allegations made?
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:20
by abhijitm
Do you guys know which is the favorite channel of MMS? None other but NDTV. I think I remember he said this after assuming PM office for the first time.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:27
by RCase
Verily, a grass-fed nation of cattle will produce a LOT of bullshit! Why is that a surprise?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:57
by anupmisra
harbans wrote:... a "Paki brain"...
Harbans, you know better than this.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 08:59
by anupmisra
There's a god and he doesn't insha.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:01
by Sushupti
‘
They killed our mates, we want vengeance’
The soldiers want a repeat of a February 2000 offensive, which was launched after a group led by Illayas Kashmir —a Pakistani soldier-turned-terrorist — intruded into Nowshera sector of Rajouri and beheaded a jawan of the Mahar regiment. Back then, the army had retaliated by crossing the border and causing similar casualties to the Pakistan army.
“If we could take retaliatory action 12 years ago, what is holding us back now? Something must be done to respect our anger and feelings. We can't take things lying down,” another sepoy said.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 87991.aspx
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:09
by rajanb
shiv wrote:
serves the fukirs right.
It wasn't
Jumma Chumma raat. It was Jhappad Raat!
South Asia is suffering from terrorism onlee.
(Notice the green on green!)
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:21
by RCase
rajanb wrote:
It wasn't
Jumma Chumma raat. It was Jhappad Raat!
South Asia is suffering from terrorism onlee.
(Notice the green on green!)
Or was it the Chumma of Altaf Bhai and his promised drone strike!
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:41
by Prem
Snake Vs Scorpian on Lizard
Altaf distorting history, says Dimdim
LAHORE: Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf (PTI) Chairman DImran Khan has taken strong exception to Altaf Husain’s statement that the
Quaid-i-Azam took oath of allegiance to King George when he was sworn in as governor-general.In a statement issued on Thursday, Mr Khan said the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief had distorted history.“The oath taken by the Quaid-i-Azam was determined by the fact that the independence of Pakistan in 1947 was not complete,” says Mr Khan.“
“Both India and Pakistan had attained quasi independence and became dominions of the British Empire. It was for this reason that the Quaid became governor-general and not the president.”The governor-general was nominally a representative of the British monarch and this fact was reflected in the oath that was taken by both the Pakistani Governor-General and Indian Governor General Mountbatten.”Imran said by drawing a parallel between the situation then and the status of his (Altaf’s) being a British citizen now was a complete distortion of facts and history.He said that to hold leadership positions in the government or be a member of parliament, it is incumbent, according to the Constitution, that the person should be solely a citizen of Pakistan.“To claim national leadership it is a mockery if vast properties of the leaders are not in Pakistan but abroad. Every time Pakistani currency devalues these leaders become richer. This is a joke with the sufferings of the people of Pakistan,” he said.Mr Khan advised the MQM leader not to drag the great Quaid into tawdry political debate in the country
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:41
by member_23629
If we could take retaliatory action 12 years ago, what is holding us back now?
Manmohan Singh.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:53
by Agnimitra
Jhujar wrote:Snake Vs Scorpian on Lizard
Altaf distorting history, says Dimdim
He said that to hold leadership positions in the government or be a member of parliament, it is incumbent, according to the Constitution, that the person should be solely a citizen of Pakistan.
That's a direct hit at Tahir ul Qadri, too, even though PTI and MQM are both supporting him to different extents.
Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012
Posted: 11 Jan 2013 09:54
by rajanb
Thursday's clash was a confirmation, with Indian jawans seething with anger over the killing of their comrades and brutalization of their bodies, that the already volatile Line of Control will remain red-hot at least in the near-term.
The IA can and does avenge the blood of its own. That's the reason the pakis brown their shalwars at the very thought of facing the IA in Kashmir. Good to see that the IA has enough operational freedom to take actions that keep the pakis in their place, despite the fact that sphagetti-spines are calling the shots in the dilli sultanate.
Jawans seething with anger will be bad news for the morale if the Army top brass and the Delhi sultanate manage to prevent a retaliation from our side. It will send a message that we have lost. Worst is if the Jawans who lead the retaliation are punished. It will then send a message to the officers that being WKK is the way to get promoted.
Tactically brilliant Bakis are therefore, as expected, begging 3.5 to put pressure on India to prevent retaliation and crying wolf whenever a slight provocation occurs. The chindu 5th columnist are also helping the pakies directly or indirectly.
Lakshmikanthji
The only way their morale will be dented is if they are specifically ordered to forget this incident, take no action and move on in life.
Difficult for them to swallow. Considering their training and mindset is tuned to valour and honour and the idiom that the best enemy is a dead enemy.
And I do not think that any politician will have the guts to do that. Considering they do not have the guts to do anything.
So far the army has openly stated that they will uphold their honour at a time and place of their choosing.
I can see that, in following skirmishes, and P!gturds will initiate many, each one of our jawans will shoot to kill; shoot to cause maximum damage. Their will be vengeance in their hearts. And even greater purpose.
I would love to see one P!gturd sent to his 72 whouris everyday, preferably before breakfast. So the Jawans can have a hearty breakfast and a happy day.
2011= 51 violations; 2012=121 violations; 2013= 365??
What dreams!
