Bharat Rakshak

CRamS wrote:

SSridhar wrote:We will have wonderful discussion in the days and weeks ahead.

SSJi, I hope there is a well thought out strategy from ModiJi.

shiv wrote:Duh talks were supposed to have been about terror only and guess what the joint statement says?
, "The EAM (Sushma Swaraj) and the Advisor (Sartaj Aziz) condemned terrorism and resolved to cooperate to eliminate it. They noted the successful talks on terrorism and security related issues in Bangkok by the two NSAs and decided that the NSAs will continue to address all issues connected to terrorism. The Indian side was assured of the steps being taken to expedite the early conclusion of the Mumbai trial.I suspect this has been done behind Obama's back. India will be punished for this by 3.5.

Jhujar wrote:Madam Fair retweeted that no Paki dignitary was present at Isloo to receive SS. What gives ? Heartburn, plain insult or just vanila stupidity for which Paki are famous for.

Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim's assets in India to be auctioned by govt
Reuters — Published about 2 hours ago

Investigations should be fast tracked to put more of such assets/properties (of the benaami category) on the auction block

ramana wrote:I hope the Kirket bashers will go and eat crow soup no?

Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim's assets in India to be auctioned by govt
Reuters — Published about 2 hours ago

Investigations should be fast tracked to put more of such assets/properties (of the benaami category) on the auction block

Paki Anal-ist Attempts To Explains "The Untouchable Imam of Lal Masjid"

Tashfeen Malik, the female shooter in the San Bernardino attack that killed 14 last week, is believed to have links with Abdul Aziz’s Lal Masjid. Or at least that’s what US officials are being reported to have conveyed to the Pakistani government representatives in a recent meeting in London. Insiders confirm that evidence was provided to the Pakistani contingent showcasing Tashfeen’s affiliation with Lal Masjid, coupled with the unsaid, and yet deafening, call to ‘do more’.

Believing that Tashfeen Malik was sent by Lal Masjid cleric Abdul Aziz on a terror mission to California would be generous overestimation of the madrassa’s reach, if not aspirations. More crucially though, buying the interior ministry’s off the record claims that Aziz is ‘no longer a threat’ domestically, is underestimation of the same.

Granted, the man who notoriously refused to condemn the APS attack last year is now seen condemning Paris attacks, and even the San Bernardino shooting. Granted also, that he might no longer have as strong a network in place to target heads of the Pakistani state through suicide bombers, or unleash them throughout Punjab. Even so, this is the same man who only four weeks ago launched a “movement to enforce Shariah” in Islamabad, reminiscent of circa 2007, in blatant defiance of Pakistan’s Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) 1997. When informed through an official letter about his ATA breach, Aziz said in a social media message: “But for the regard of decency, I would have torn to pieces the deputy commissioner’s note.”

Such audacity to flout at the government, the military and law enforcement agencies, while sitting smack in the middle of the state capital, is only possible if it’s bulwarked by the assurance that no one is going to touch him. Whether that assurance comes from Aziz’s friends – and apprentices – in the government and establishment, or from his personal reading of the security situation, only he would know best.

Tashfeen Malik’s posthumous entrance into this non-starting showdown between the state and Aziz is completely superfluous as far as the state taking any action is concerned. If Aziz is a ‘strategic asset’ worthier than the TTP, or Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), Islamabad is perfectly capable of consuming eons of ‘do more’ calls without any eyelids being batted, or damns being given, in the Parliament or GHQ.
While Abdul Aziz has distanced himself and Lal Masjid from the San Bernardino shooter, facts pertaining to Tashfeen’s links with the mosque, or Pakistan in general, just like the magnitude of Abdul Aziz’s current wherewithal, are irrelevant to the bigger picture anyway. The picture that paints Tashfeen as a success story for Lal Masjid’s jihadlings.

Tashfeen might never have set foot in Lal Masjid, nor had any connections with Abdul Aziz, but rest assured thaTrt is not what is being taught in the ‘Sleepy Hollow’ of the mosque and Jamia Hafsa; the hidden chambers where the fatwa against the Pakistan Army was deliberated over in 2003, suicide bombers were trained to kill Pervez Musharraf and guidelines were issued for the 2005 London bombings. In those chambers, which were famously unscrewed and laid bare in 2007, Tashfeen is peddled as a hero who ‘embraced martyrdom for Allah’ fighting the ‘infidels’ in America – the emblem of Satan. That the ISIS-supporting Tashfeen is believed to be a Lal Masjid product will only fuel the ambitions of the Jamia Hafsa students that pledged allegiance to ISIS in a social media video last year.

That Aziz and his jihadlings haven’t orchestrated violence in the recent past, doesn’t mean that they don’t intend do. Abdul Aziz might not have the same ominous resources, but in Tashfeen he has chanced upon a world-renowned apprentice.(without disastrous results for the Ummah if the Aam Abduls Of Amreeka decide to bring in Donald Trump as POTUS ) The next time a vociferous rally is allowed to come out of Lal Masjid, it would be surprising if it settles for sloganeering and a journey end at Jamia Hafsa.

ramana wrote:

Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim's assets in India to be auctioned by govt
Reuters — Published about 2 hours ago

Investigations should be fast tracked to put more of such assets/properties (of the benaami category) on the auction block

Will it include #Bhaiwood stars like Anil Kapoor, Salman Khan and Shahrukh Khan etc.?

saip wrote:

ramana wrote:I hope the Kirket bashers will go and eat crow soup no?

Not quite.

Indo-Pak series to be held from Dec 24-Jan 5: Sources

Link

Who are these sources? And what do they know, when did they know?

According to a reliable source in the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), the tentative dates

KLNMurthy wrote:
There you go.

According to a reliable source in the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), the tentative dates

thorough check run by Indian intelligence agencies on immigration or visa records has failed to show up any trace of California mass shooting suspect Tashfeen Malik's visit to India in 2013, as alleged by a Saudi interior ministry official.

"There is no way a Pakistani citizen can escape the scanner as the checks are much stringent in their case. Malik may have either not visited at all or transited through an Indian airport on a connecting flight,

abhijitm wrote: 3. 26/11 happened just before the 15th election. Unlike Kandahar hijack UPA did handle the incident with tough hand. I am aware that it is not exactly an apple to apple compare. I am just trying to establish that it can play in common man's mind. UPA won that election.

4. MMS's affection towards pakisan was evident in his second term. UPA's soft handling of pakistan post 26/11 was evident. Modi used this issue in the next election. UPA lost and NDA won the last election.

sukhish wrote:what's the need to resume the comprehensive dialogue at the first place, cricket ties were frozen right from the get go. the same they we had an encounter in sopore. what the hell is this. they can keep killing and we will keep talking. why are we even talking ?

A_Gupta wrote:Sushma Swaraj's speech at the Heart of Asia:
http://mea.gov.in/Speeches-Statements.htm?dtl/26131

SSridhar wrote: Almost one-half of the speech is about connecting Afghanistan with India through Pakistan. India is bringing on enormous pressure on Pakistan.

saip wrote:Why did SA lie for its Munna? To bring equal equal into this terrorism crap. They claimed Malik visited India. And now,

shiv wrote:

saip wrote:Why did SA lie for its Munna? To bring equal equal into this terrorism crap. They claimed Malik visited India. And now,

Not going to bother to search for it but I think the report that Saudi stated that Touchfeeln had been in India came from a Paki source. Pakistani media are habituated to lying. I admit that all media lie - but Pakistani media stand out.

ISLAMABAD: Having lost a couple of major international arbitrations in water disputes, the government has decided to carry out a comprehensive study to evaluate the impact of Indian construction on rivers flowing into Pakistan.The 2013 judgment by the International Court of Arbitration over the Kishanganga hydropower project dispute had gone against Pakistan, mainly because of inability of the authorities to provide data that could establish water uses inside areas under its control in Azad Kashmir as well as the project’s environmental impact.The government’s belated challenge to the Baglihar hydropower project before a neutral expert also could not yield desired results as the project structure was acknowledged as fait accompli.This is among some of the issues on which the provincial governments will submit their recommendations at a brainstorming session of stakeholders to be organised by the Water and Power Development Authority on Thursday, according to official papers.The provincial governments are accused of utilising their constitutionally guaranteed water shares without paying for the infrastructure use and the authorities are of the view that there should be a mechanism for building and servicing this infrastructure.According to the official papers, a substantial part of Pakistan’s fresh water resource is generated outside the country. The Indus Water Treaty provided a mechanism for sharing water with India, but there were some critical issues which had obstructed the implementation of the treaty over the last 55 years.For example, the provisions in the treaty for unlimited hydropower development in upper catchments have the potential of threatening water availability in lower catchments during low flow periods. The treaty did not provide for minimum environmental flows downstream international boundary for the eastern rivers, which exposed downstream population to serious environment hazards.In view of such issues, the authorities also visualise problems on the western rivers. For example, upstream developments on Kabul river have been planned and implemented, but there is no formal agreement on sharing its water between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
The authorities now argue that there should be a mechanism for sharing trans-boundary aquifers and a joint watershed management, including sharing of real-time flow information. Therefore, it has been decided to carry out a study to “evaluate the impact of developments in the upper catchment” of rivers flowing from across borders on environment, agriculture and hydropower projects, including the existing and those planned for future, in the lower catchment.The study “shall also recommend measures to minimise these impacts within the framework of the Indus Water Treaty and international water laws”.
The climate change will also lead to increased intrusion of saline water in the Indus delta, adversely affecting coastal agriculture, mangroves and fisheries and rising temperatures resulting in enhanced heat and water-stress conditions, particularly in arid and semi-arid regions, leading to reduced agricultural productivity.With a rise in temperature as a result of climate change, crops will require more water due to excessive evaporation and cattle will consume more water. Domestic consumption will also increase. The precipitation pattern will become more complex, less predictable on a long-term basis with stronger regional variations than being experienced now and aquifer could be affected with negative impact on agricultural output.The authorities have proposed that in order to understand the shift in rainfall patterns, a local climate model should be prepared by pooling computing resources for adapting global climate models to local conditions. Collaboration should be worked out with international agencies and organisations specialising in weather simulation modelling as well as active participation in new international initiatives for climate services.“The impact of climate change shall be minimised by storing water in carryover surface storages and in underground storages and adaptive measures shall be worked out to adjust to impacts of climate changes,” stated a working paper prepared for the stakeholders’ meeting.

Kashi wrote:

abhijitm wrote: 3. 26/11 happened just before the 15th election. Unlike Kandahar hijack UPA did handle the incident with tough hand. I am aware that it is not exactly an apple to apple compare. I am just trying to establish that it can play in common man's mind. UPA won that election.

4. MMS's affection towards pakisan was evident in his second term. UPA's soft handling of pakistan post 26/11 was evident. Modi used this issue in the next election. UPA lost and NDA won the last election.

That seems rather contradictory no?

Plus you overlook the key factor in those elections- Corruption and economy. Pakistan, if anything was a footnote and it was barely mentioned in the campaign speeches.

UPA won 2009 elections inspite of 26/11.

deejay wrote:
Who fell for it? Indians reading that link on BRF. And Indians helped get the focus on Indians by giving credence to Paki news report. Sorry if it sounds like rant/anguish but this story of believing stupid media reports from mil threads to strategy threads to tech & econ threads to GDF - its all pervasive. Either it is an attempt by posters to start flame wars or just being plane lazy to do basic due diligence before posting such links or commenting on them.

I refuse to agree that this is happens because of naive beliefs on media honesty specially if its Paki.

I am not leaving myself out of this 'trust the liar' sydrome. Everyone needs to be careful if the discussions here have to be serious.

abhijitm wrote:Handling the incident and handling pakistan post incident. One would expect pakistan would be dealt with hard hand which didn't happen.

Of course there were many key factors in all the elections. My point was not to establish that pakistan related incidents were the key factors. It was whether those incident play any role in shaping the minds of common men, which I think should be.