West Asia News and Discussions

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 03 Jul 2013 22:31

Kiyani must be watching the events in Egypt and the world's reaction with great interest.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 03 Jul 2013 23:16

#BREAKING: Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria and Mohamed ElBaradei will announce the road map to post #Morsi era

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Jul 2013 23:19

A very good combination of useful idiots.

This lack of condemnation of Egypt Military's coup will add to the bucket of Islamist grievances.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Jul 2013 23:55

Syria is jihad central: 6,000 terrorists flood new al Qaeda training ground

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2Y0eaGYoD

Thousands of foreign terrorists traveled to Syria over the past several months to wage jihad, or holy war, in what U.S. officials say is fast becoming a new international terror training ground.Most of the foreign terrorists are fighting for the al Qaeda-linked group the al-Nusra Front and are coming from around the world, mainly from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Libya, and Tunisia, by crossing the Syrian border with Turkey. The al-Nusra Front is the most well organized and ideologically motivated armed opposition group after the secular Free Syrian Army.
“The Syrian opposition is benefiting from a steady flow of foreign fighters who seem to be joining a variety of Islamist-oriented brigades or, on a smaller scale, starting up nationality-based units,” said one U.S. official familiar with internal reports on the region.Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official and former staff member of the White House National Security Council, added: “Syria is the new epicenter for the global jihad with would be ‘martyrs’ arriving from across the Islamic world to fight Assad. They are getting experience in the terror arts they will bring home.”Word of the growing foreign terrorist presence comes as a gruesome videosurfaced over the past weekend showing Syrian rebels beheading three Christians, including a Catholic priest, in a public execution widely circulated on the Internet.
The Obama administration announced last month that it will begin sending arms to secular rebel groups fighting under the Free Syrian Army banner. Critics have warned that the covert U.S. support could end up bolstering al Qaeda forces in the region.“The balance of power within the Syrian opposition between responsible forces and terrorists is already murky at best,” John Bolton, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, told the Washington Free Beacon.
“If even more al Qaeda supporters are moving in, it raises the risks of supplying weapons even to ‘friendly’ opposition forces even higher,” he said.
The number of “martyrdom announcements” by jihadists in Syria indicates the influx of foreigners is increasing, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Officials familiar with reports of the foreign fighters said many of the jihadists are Sunni Muslims initially drawn to the conflict to help the Syrian people and oppose Shiites.However, one official said the fact that most are joining al-Nusra Front and another Chechen terrorist group are troubling signs since it is believed the foreign fighters will become “hardened jihadists” through the experience.
The increase in foreign terrorists began in December and is continuing. U.S. officials estimate many as 6,000 foreign terrorists are now fighting in Syria and the large numbers have increased fears among security officials that the terrorists will use their experience to spread terror to their home countries..ccording to London’s Arabic-language newspaper Al-Sharq al-Awsat, Libyan terrorist leader Abu-Yahya has said there is an easy travel route for Tunisian and Libyan fighters, who are being trained in Libya for jihad in Syria, to be smuggled into Syria with the help of militant groups.The conflict in Syria also has pitted Muslims against each other. Many Sunni militants initially traveled to Syria to wage jihad against Shiites, like the Iranian-backed Hezbollah terrorist group that is supporting the Assad regime.The Syrian conflict also has exposed a rift within al Qaeda. The Iraqi al Qaeda group known as the Islamic State of Iraq merged with Al-Nusra Front in March to create the Islamist State of Iraq and the Levant. However, al Qaeda leader Aymen al Zawahiri announced that the merger was not valid.Other nationalities observed engaged in Syria jihad include Kuwaitis, Lebanese, Palestinians, Qataris, Algerians, and Moroccans.Non-Arab jihadists include smaller numbers of terrorists from China, Australia, Britain, Denmark, France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Canada, Russia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Austria, Belgium, and Bosnia. It could not be learned if any American jihadists are in Syria.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 04 Jul 2013 00:00

WAVE OF THE EIGHTH CENTURY, CONT’D

The Obama administration is supporting Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood in the current crisis of the regime. That is my reading of Elise Labott’s CNN story and Matthew Lee’s AP story on the administration’s position. The Obama administration has supported the Muslim Brotherhood right along. See, for example, the Daily Beast article by Josh Rogin and Eli Lake documenting the administration’s “revisionist history” of Obama’s approach to Egypt.
Jeffrey Goldberg asks how the United States lost the Egyptian people. Goldberg frames the question this way:
How exactly did the U.S. come to be seen by Egyptian secularists and liberals as the handmaiden of a cultish fundamentalist political party whose motto includes this heartening sentiment: “Jihad is our way, and dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope”?The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind coming out of the White House. Barry Rubin has been paying attention. He shows how American policy has backed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.The Investigative Project on Terrorism finds American Islamists rallying in support of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood has an impressive American infrastructure lending support. Most impressive, however, is the support from the man at the top.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... -contd.php

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 04 Jul 2013 00:29

The same groups that faught Gadaffi to help European contries colonize Libya are now being eliminated by the colonizers.

Surely these fools knew what was in store for them once they their use for the intended purpose was complete.

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Libya promises to break militias as ministry held for second day

TRIPOLI (Reuters) - Libya's government is drawing up plans to disband militias who have plagued the capital since the fall of Muammar Gaddafi, the justice minister said as an armed group occupied the interior ministry for a second day.

Salah al-Marghani did not give details of how the authorities would tackle the bands of fighters who have challenged the authority of the government and its security forces for nearly two years.

The government had set up a committee to "put in place mechanisms to disband armed groups, with no differentiation, no matter who they are or where they are from," the minister said in a televised news conference on Wednesday.

"At the end there will be only a national army and police."

The major oil producer remains anarchic and awash with weapons after the Western-backed uprising.

Government security forces are still struggling to control the regional militias who fought Gaddafi and now want to keep hold of the influence they gained during the revolution.

http://news.yahoo.com/libya-promises-br ... 41583.html

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 04 Jul 2013 13:32

These days its easy to make a revolution with multiple cameras to watch over you and all you need is thousand of people sitting at one place and shouting for change.

The real hard work is to build a nation when there is no camera watching you and something that can take years and decades.

With Morsi gone and some new election promised what is the gurantee the new guy wont meet the same fate , Eventually people of Egypt will realise that what they did was easy task the hard task is yet to start.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 04 Jul 2013 13:55

the opposition are no better off than the MB, no one has any idea on how to govern the country and how to fix the economic mess
this will be messy

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 04 Jul 2013 15:46

That is true and making a country is a patience game with many wrong and right decision taken along the path .....these days every body needs a quick solution......we had the same with Lok Pal and today no one knows where it went.

habal · Post by **habal** » 04 Jul 2013 16:22

the egyptian military felt they were going to be sidelined and perhaps even absorbed by Morsi's militia at worst, if his jihad on Syria went through.

Morsi role at Syria rally seen as tipping point for Egypt army
Head of state had attended rally with hardline Islamists calling for holy war in war-torn neighbour

Army concern about the way President Mohamed Morsi was governing Egypt reached tipping point when the head of state attended a rally packed with hardline fellow Islamists calling for holy war in Syria, military sources have said.
At the June 15th rally, Sunni Muslim clerics used the word “infidels” to denounce both the Shias fighting to protect Syrian president Bashar al-Assad and the non-Islamists that oppose Mr Morsi at home.
Mr Morsi himself called for foreign intervention in Syria against Mr Assad, leading to a veiled rebuke from the army, which issued an apparently bland but sharp-edged statement the next day stressing that its only role was guarding Egypt’s borders.
“The armed forces were very alarmed by the Syrian conference at a time the state was going through a major political crisis,” said one officer, whose comments reflected remarks made privately by other army staff. He was speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not permitted to talk to the media.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/af ... -1.1450612

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 04 Jul 2013 20:18

Bashar al-Assad: The situation in Syria is normalized
http://www.itar-tass.com/c1/796195.html

BEIRUT, July 4. / ITAR-TASS /. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in an interview published today by the newspaper "Al-Thawra" said that "life in Syria is back to normal." "We now have nothing to fear," - he stressed.

According to him, the purpose of the conspiracy of western and some Arab countries was "the destruction of infrastructure, the destruction of the national economy and creating chaos in the society of Syria."

"They wanted to achieve the destruction of the Syrian state - he pointed out. - We do not allow such a development."

The enemies of Syria as Assad said, "using all available means of financial, physical and psychological pressure." "But people are not broken. When a terrorist attack, it should be quickly removed, and life is back to normal - he said. - People go to work, even if the expected explosion or terrorist attack at any moment."

In these conditions, as the head of state, the opponents of Syria "is one - to resort to direct military intervention."
"However, many in the West and the Middle East question the necessity or even opposed to intervention, - he stressed. - This way we can overcome this dangerous period."

He also supported the statements of the Egyptian people, stressing that "the removal from power of Mohammed Morsi means the end of" political Islam "." Anyone who uses religion for political or party interests will inevitably lose, wherever it happened - in Egypt or any other country in the world . "

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 05 Jul 2013 16:33

Remember that Syrian rebel who ate the heart of a Syrian soldier? BBC is now looking to project him as a normal, average person who needs to be understood for a minor mistake.

Face-to-face with Abu Sakkar, Syria's 'heart-eating cannibal'

most far-fetched propaganda claim

"I didn't bite into it. I just held it for show."

carving him a Valentine's heart

"We will eat your hearts and your livers you soldiers of Bashar the dog."

taken a ritual bite

"I didn't want to do this. I had to,"

"Put yourself in my shoes"

Abu Sakkar says the dead soldier was an Alawite or Shiite militiaman. "He was insulting us. He was shouting, 'Oh Ali, Oh Hussein, Oh Haydar [Shia slogans],'" he says.

So what turned this happy-go-lucky-lovable-rascal into a hardened sunni revolutionary, forced to take a ritual bite off a shia's dark heart?

Then, he says, a woman and child were shot dead at a protest. His brother went to help. He, too, was shot and killed.

Abu Sakkar can be seen at the front of a crowd waving olive branches to greet deserting army officers

He took up arms against the regime, one of the first to join a new organisation called the Free Syrian Army (FSA).

Along the way, he lost another brother, many relatives, and countless of his men. His parents were arrested and he says the police rang him so he could hear them being beaten.

"They took your father and mother and insulted them. They slaughtered your brothers, they murdered your uncle and aunt. All this happened to me. They slaughtered my neighbours."
"This guy had videos on his mobile. It showed him raping a mother and her two daughters. He stripped them while they begged him to stop in the name of God. Finally he slaughtered them with a knife... What would you have done?"

Yes BBC, what would you have done? Hain?

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 05 Jul 2013 18:30

What barbarians.........

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23190533

Face-to-face with Abu Sakkar, Syria's 'heart-eating cannibal'
By Paul Wood BBC News, Syria

It sounded like the most far-fetched propaganda claim - a Syrian rebel commander who cut out the heart of a fallen enemy soldier, and ate it before a cheering crowd of his men.

The story turned out to be true in its important aspect - a ritual demonstration of cannibalism - though when I met the commander, Abu Sakkar, in Syria last week, he seemed hazy on the details.

"I really don't remember," he says, when I ask if it was the man's heart, as reported at the time, or liver, or a piece of lung, as a doctor who saw the video said. He goes on: "I didn't bite into it. I just held it for show."

The video says otherwise. It is one of the most gruesome to emerge from Syria's civil war. In it, Abu Sakkar stands over an enemy corpse, slicing into the flesh.

"It looks like you're carving him a Valentine's heart," says one of his men, raucously. Abu Sakkar picks up a bloody handful of something and declares: "We will eat your hearts and your livers you soldiers of Bashar the dog."

Then he brings his hand up to his mouth and his lips close around whatever he is holding. At the time the video was released, in May, we rang him and he confirmed to us that he had indeed taken a ritual bite (of a piece of lung, he said).

Now, meeting him face-to-face, he seems a bit more circumspect, though his anger builds when I ask why he carried out this depraved act.

"I didn't want to do this. I had to," he tells me. "We have to terrify the enemy, humiliate them, just as they do to us. Now, they won't dare be wherever Abu Sakkar is."

He is 27, a stocky, tough-looking Bedouin from the Baba Amr district of Homs, with a wild stare and skin burned a dark brown by the sun. He tells me the story of his involvement in the revolution, leading to his current notoriety.

Abu Sakkar fought with the Farouq Brigade before starting his own

Before the uprising, he was working as a labourer in Baba Amr. He joined the demonstrations when they started in the spring of 2011. Then, he says, a woman and child were shot dead at a protest. His brother went to help. He, too, was shot and killed.
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Put yourself in my shoes - they slaughtered your brothers, they murdered your uncle and aunt... all this happened to me”

Abu Sakkar

In a YouTube video from June 2011, Abu Sakkar can be seen at the front of a crowd waving olive branches to greet deserting army officers. He took up arms against the regime, one of the first to join a new organisation called the Free Syrian Army (FSA).

In February 2012, he was fighting with the Farouq Brigade, and they tried, and failed, to stop the regime taking Baba Amr. When the FSA fled Baba Amr, he started his own brigade, the Omar al-Farouq. They saw bitter fighting in Qusayr.

Along the way, he lost another brother, many relatives, and countless of his men. His parents were arrested and he says the police rang him so he could hear them being beaten.

"Put yourself in my shoes," he says. "They took your father and mother and insulted them. They slaughtered your brothers, they murdered your uncle and aunt. All this happened to me. They slaughtered my neighbours."

He goes on to talk about the man whose flesh he held in his hands: "This guy had videos on his mobile. It showed him raping a mother and her two daughters. He stripped them while they begged him to stop in the name of God. Finally he slaughtered them with a knife... What would you have done?"
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"If we don't get help, a no-fly zone, heavy weapons, we will do worse - you've seen nothing yet”

Abu Sakkar

Well, perhaps not make a meal of my enemy, I think. At the time, Abu Sakkar's men greeted what he did with cries of "God is Great". Now the fighters looking after him while he recovers from an injury just seem a bit embarrassed.

Abu Sakkar says the dead soldier was an Alawite or Shiite militiaman. "He was insulting us. He was shouting, 'Oh Ali, Oh Hussein, Oh Haydar [Shia slogans],'" he says.

"In the beginning, when we captured an Alawite fighter, we would feed him, make him feel comfortable. We used to tell him we were brothers. But then they started raping our women, slaughtering children with knives."

A man in the room interrupts to say the Alawites are not proper Muslims. This war is becoming increasingly sectarian.

Abu Sakkar shows me scars from 14 different bullet wounds on his body. "We're under siege, it's been two years now," he says. "Videos from the Shabiha [government militia] show many more terrible things than what I did. You weren't too bothered. There wasn't much of a media fanfare. You didn't care. You suffer a fraction of what we suffered and you'll do what I did and more."

Abu Sakkar's home district of Baba Amr has seen heavy fighting

He continues: "Qusayr was destroyed, Baba Amr destroyed, Homs was entirely destroyed. No-one cares. See how the refugees are living? Would you accept your parents living the same way? The Syrian people refuse to be humiliated. We are defending the Islamic nation and this is how the Arabs and the West treat us? What did the West do? Nothing."
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Is the West asking me now to fight Abu Sakkar and force him out of the revolution?”

Gen Salim Idris FSA chief of staff

Finally, he adds: "If we don't get help, a no-fly zone, heavy weapons, we will do worse [than I did]. You've seen nothing yet."

So Abu Sakkar has become the "cannibal rebel" - a handy symbol for all those who, like the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, oppose arming the Syrian rebels.

Standing next to an uncomfortable looking David Cameron, Mr Putin told a G8 summit news conference: "These are people who don't just kill their enemies, they open up their bodies, and eat their intestines in front of the public and the cameras. Are these the people you want to… supply with weapons?"

It is possible that Abu Sakkar was mentally disturbed all along. Or perhaps the war made him this way. War damages men - and Syria is no different. As the poet W H Auden wrote: "Those to whom evil is done, do evil in return."

I asked the Free Syrian Army's chief of staff, Gen Salim Idris, why Abu Sakkar hadn't been arrested. His answer tells you a lot about the reality of how the war is being fought on the rebel side.

"We condemn what he did," said the general. "But why do our friends in the West focus on this when thousands are dying? We are a revolution not a structured army. If we were, we would have expelled Abu Sakkar. But he commands his own battalion, which he raised with his own money. Is the West asking me now to fight Abu Sakkar and force him out of the revolution? I beg for some understanding here."

Abu Sakkar seems unsure how to respond to his notoriety. He is, by turns, sheepish, nervous, angry and bitter. He definitely has the look of a man who has seen too many bad things. At the end of our interview he says he is an "angel of death" coming to cash in the souls of the enemy.

After the video became public, his men filmed him making a statement. (Not for nothing has this been called the YouTube war.) In this video, Abu Sakkar is in a freshly pressed uniform, jauntily smoking a cigarette in a way that lends a slightly absurd air to the whole performance. He says he's willing to stand trial - but only if President Bashar Assad does too.

There's no immediate prospect of either men facing their accusers. Nor of peace talks, or even of a ceasefire. And so Syria's descent into madness continues.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 05 Jul 2013 22:59

This bit of news will go unnoticed in the international media

RT "@RebelEconomy: Saudi Arabia has lent #Egypt $8 billion ($2 as a "gift" + $6 as a loan), Gulf media is reporting."

And happening as predicted in the last hour 6-8 people dead:

@AdhamNileFm: Military needed NOW!!! #tahrir is turning into a warzone... just watched the guy next to me get shot in the neck... #RabenaYostor

@AdhamNileFm: At #tahrir now... pro #morsi keep shooting at us... literally bullets and pellets whizzing by my ear.. taking cover behind cars

Sinai tribes kicking off against the army

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 07 Jul 2013 11:04

Syrian army clearing out Damascus

The Syrian armed forces have dismantled a major stronghold of the armed opposition created in the Kabun industrial area on the outskirts of Damascus. The insurgents were using the site to launch attacks on the capital and on the highway which leads to Homs.

The insurgents had accumulated large stocks of weapons which they supplied to the neighboring districts of Börse and Jubara, on the northern and eastern outskirts of the Syrian capital, as well as to the suburbs of Zamalka and Haraszti, which still remain bastions for the rebels.

In Kabune the terrorists kept hostages from among the civilian population which they used as human shields.

According to military sources, the majority of the terrorists killed during the operation in the industrial area were not Syrians but belonged to the terrorist organization Dzhebhat en-Nusra.

Syrian opposition coalition elects president; Assad troops advance in Homs

Ahmad Jarba, a tribal leader with connection to Saudi Arabia, will head the National Coalition; Syrian government forces make first significant gains in the embattled city of Homs.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 07 Jul 2013 19:06

Human sacrifice and ritual cannibalism is supported - within Islamic jurisprudence - for enemy captives, "infidels", etc. What the guy did - is firmly within Islamic injunctions, and not just past historical texts [people often jump up to say that lots of nutjob stuff exist in the texts does not mean Islam is responsible].

On Al-Tahrir, Egyptian TV advisor Ahmad Abdo Maher discusses the high-school curriculum issued by the highest religious authority in Egypt, Al-Azhar University, which encouraged students to cannibalize apostates and Muslims who abandon praying. The schoolbook stipulated that the act can be carried out so long as the human flesh is eaten uncooked in respect to the dead body and that the act “does not necessitate a governor’s consent or is punishable by law.” [Al-Iqna’ Fe Hal Alfath Abi Shuja’, By Abu Ishaq Al-Huweini, Third Secondary School, Published by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif, District of Azhar Colleges, Central Administration for Books, Libraries and Teaching Aid.]

The other popular television program, Al-Nas with Safwat Hegazy, an Egyptian cleric who launched Mohammed Mursi’s campaign in 2012, sanctioned Aztec-style, ritualistic human sacrifice of a Shia cleric named Yasar Habib. Hegazy justified his threat against Habib, who resides in Great Britain, by giving a case-in-point from Islamic history. Hegazy made reference to when the governor of Iraq – Khalid Abdullah al-Kasri – dragged a shackled Jaad bin Durham to the mosque in Kufah and used him as the sacrificial offering (instead of an animal) and then crucified him.

Hegazy reminded his viewers that when Al-Kasri made his speech that day saying, “O people, sacrifice, Allah accepted your sacrifices. I am now sacrificing Jaad bin Durham.” Al-Kasri then slaughtered him in the mosque on the Sacrifical Day 119 A.H. This set the precedent that using a human being on the Islamic "sacrificial festival" Eid-ul-adha – instead of an animal, was preferable.

A blog, The Cole Children Forum for Muslim children shares the story, since the account is supported by several of the most forceful theologians during the history of Islam like Al-Shafi’, Ibin Tayymiya, Bukhari, Dhahabi, Ibin Al-Qiyam, Darami and Ibin Khathir. [Bukhari in Kalq Af’al Al-Ibad, no. 12. Al-Darimi in Response Against Jahimiyeh, no. 17, Al-Al-Bani, Mukhtasar Al-Ulu, no. 135, also see Mukhtasar Al-Sawaik, by Ibin Qiyam ,no. 1071/3.
The Beginning and the End by Imam Al-Hafiz Ibn Khathir [Volume 9 p: 379].
Fatwas and Messages by Ibn Uthaymeen
Imam Malik and Imam Ahmad, as well as other scholars like Imam Shafi’i, and Imam Abuhanifh, and Imam Al-Zuhari, and Imam Ouzai, and Imam Al-Thawri, and Imam Sufian bin Ayyineh, Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim]

Abdulaziz Bin Abdullah Al-Rajihi, a respected scholar in Saudi Arabia, expressed support for human sacrifice in at least one speech. Al-Rajihi’s is not someone to be ignored; he is a scholar who educated the previous chief Mufti of Saudi Arabia, the renowned Muhammad Ibrahim Al Sheikh. Abu ʿAbdullah Muhammad ibn Idris al-Shafi‘i, the founder of the major Shafie school of Sunni Islamic thought, writes:

“One may eat the flesh of a human body. It is not allowed to kill a Muslim nor a free non-Muslim under Muslim rule (because he is useful for the society), nor a prisoner because he belongs to other Muslims. But you may kill an enemy fighter or an adulterer and eat his body.”

Prominent Egyptian theologian Sheikh Muhammad Hussein Yaqub recently made a speech encouraging the cannibalization of Jewish flesh:

“Our hatred, animosity, and rage toward the Jews grow. Our hatred of the Jews grows when we see them destroying our brothers. Rage boils within us. If only we could strangle the criminal Jews… If only we could strangle the Jews with our bare hands, and bite their heads off with our teeth, not with weapons.”

Sheikh Safwat Hegazy has repeated a similar mantra when it comes to the desire to cannibalize Jews:

“If our rulers let us, we would catch you [Jews] in the street, and we would devour you with our teeth.”

In 1148, one criminal named Rudwan fled from the police only to be arrested, put to death, decapitated, and cut to pieces. Those pieces were then eaten by Egyptian soldiers who believed that they would absorb his courage. Hertado de Mendoza in his The War in Granada during the time of the Spanish Inquisition, recounts that a great number of Muslims – under their leader Tahali – sacrificed twenty Christian girls by beheading and fried twenty friars in boiling olive oil, believing that their blood would appease Allah in order to gain victory against the Spaniards. When the Spanish soldiers approached these jihadists in Ohanez and drove them back, they discovered the heads, laid out in rows on the steps of a church, their hair neatly brushed.

Mendoza mentions a similar situation that took place when the Spanish emperor Charles made an expedition against the Muslim Moors of Carthage, where the Muslims sacrificed five Christian children. They said their prayers and slaughtered them in the hopes that Allah would preserve them from the Spaniards.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 07 Jul 2013 20:20

Israel's attack on Syria targeted components of advanced Russia SA-300 anti aircraft system shipped by Russia: http://t.co/n9rtwAJVI3

Manish_Sharma · Post by **Manish_Sharma** » 07 Jul 2013 21:07

^Thanks for this enlightening article Brihaspati ji, many are very disturbed by my posting that 'heart eating' article on my facebook and saying this has nothing to do with islam, now I am posting you article to shut them up. Let's see.......

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 07 Jul 2013 21:11

Homs will be taken by Assad. My, my how things have turned. Now Egypt is going to be descending into civil war battling these rabid Islamists.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 07 Jul 2013 21:32

Even if he takes back Homs he has been more or less castrated. The Wahabi swines will keep trying as they have no shortage of funding or man( if you can call it that) power. It is the house of Saud that needs to fall

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 08 Jul 2013 06:21

exactly - Syria is finished for a few decades

maybe Karma will come back on those who caused it

member_19686 · Post by **member_19686** » 08 Jul 2013 08:12

Islamic lynch mob waving Al Qaeda banners throw terrified teenage boy off 20ft ledge before beating him to death

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2YQ4h0bnP

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 08 Jul 2013 16:34

Syria is a '10-year issue,' top general says

Syria is a regional conflict where causes "will persist for 10 years," Dempsey says

"We need to understand what the peace will look like before we start the war"

Washington is weighing whether to arm Syrian rebels

The administration is "going forward with a debate while events transpire," McCain says

The United States faces "a 10-year issue" in Syria as it weighs how deeply it wants to get involved the country's civil war, the top U.S. military officer warned in an interview that aired Sunday.

Army Gen. Martin Dempsey told CNN's State of the Union that the conflict is entwined in a regional issue that is now spilling over into both Lebanon and Iraq, and those underlying causes "will persist for 10 years."

"It is related -- not exclusively -- but related to a competition at best and a conflict at worse between the Sunni and Shia sects of Islam, and it's been hijacked at some level on both sides by extremists -- al Qaeda on one side and Lebanese Hezbollah and others on the other side," said Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

He added, "This is about a 10-year issue, and if we fail to think about it as a 10-year regional issue, we could make some mistakes."

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 08 Jul 2013 23:01

40 Minutes In Benghazi

When U.S. ambassador J. Christopher Stevens was killed in a flash of hatred in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11, 2012, the political finger-pointing began. But few knew exactly what had happened that night. With the ticktock narrative of the desperate fight to save Stevens, Fred Burton and Samuel M. Katz provide answers.

habal · Post by **habal** » 09 Jul 2013 14:52

Morsi ousted to stop plan for sending Egypt military to attack Syria’s Assad

Convincing evidence suggests that Egypt’s President Mohammad Morsi was ousted from power in a military coup in part because the Egyptian army feared he was plotting to order them to invade Syria in support of the embattled death squad insurgency against the Assad government there.

The combination of Morsi’s aggressive designs against Syria, together with some trial balloons from presidential circles about a possible conflict with Ethiopia, plus the massive anti-Morsi demonstrations organized by the National Salvation Front and the Tamarod movement, convinced military leaders that the incompetent and erratic Morsi, who had destroyed his own popularity by selling out to the demands of the International Monetary Fund last November, represented an intolerable risk for Egypt.

According to the Washington Post, the dissatisfaction of the Egyptian military with Morsi “peaked in June, when Morsi stood by twice as officials around him called for Egyptian aggression against Ethiopia and Syria, threatening to suck Egypt into conflicts that it could ill afford, former military officials said.”

Morsi’s call for Holy War against Assad came just three days after US Secretary of State John Kerry, at a meeting of the Principals’ Committee of the US Government, tried to ram through an immediate bombing campaign against Damascus, but had to settle for the option of arming the Syrian terrorist opposition, leading many observers to conclude that the Egyptian president was acting as part of a US anti-Syrian strategy.

By thus breaking off diplomatic relations with another Arab state, Morsi was joining the dubious company of the NATO-backed puppet regimes in Libya and Tunisia, the only Arabs so far to have called home their envoys from Damascus. And for Cairo, such a move has far greater significance, given that Egypt and Syria were politically united between 1958 and 1961 in a single nation as the United Arab Republic, one of the fruits of President Nasser’s Pan-Arab Socialism.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/09 ... for-syria/

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 09 Jul 2013 16:37

Qatar and Saudi Arabia compete in Egypt

Egypt has not only turned into a battlefield between the supporters of secular government and the Islamists. External players are also fighting over the influence in this largest Arab country. Two Persian Gulf monarchies are especially active in this “war” - Qatar and Saudi Arabia.

After the military fired at the protesters near the Republican Guard's headquarters, the Salafi party Al-Nour refused to participate in talks with Egypt's new authorities. At the same time, just recently the Salafi greeted the overthrow of President Mohamed Morsi. It once again demonstrates that there is a divide between Egypt's Islamists. The more moderate wing – the Muslim Brotherhood – is prepared to fight to bring Mohamed Morsi back to the presidential seat. The Salafis, who are more radical, believe that Egypt needs a different leader. The line of such a divide goes way beyond the border of Egypt. The point is that both the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Nour have foreign sponsors. Qatar supports the Brotherhood. It is in Doha that their spiritual leader Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi is located. Saudi Arabia, where Wahhabism is the ruling ideology, sponsors the Salafi. Evgeniy Satanovsky, president of the Institute of the Middle East, comments on the situation:

“Qatar supported and continues to support the Muslim Brotherhood and similar movements not only in Egypt, but also in all Arab Spring countries. For example, it supports the leaders of Al Nahda in Tunisia and Hamas in Gaza. And the Salafis have been created by Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia sent its warmest greetings to the military junta, which threw out the Muslim Brotherhood, and Adli Mansur who is now the acting president of Egypt. This demonstrates that the old Russian saying is fully applicable to the situation on the Arabian Peninsula – “the neighbor's cow died – it's a minor issue, but a pleasant one”.

Doha and Riyadh give various types of aid to their protégés – primarily financial. According to the Financial Times newspaper, Qatar “invested” 8 billion USD in Egypt. The Qatar TV channel Al Jazeera gave information support to Morsi's government. It is not surprising that after Morsi was overthrown the broadcasting of Al Jazeera in Egypt was banned, while searches were conducted at the channel's offices and the head of its Cairo office was arrested. Saudi Arabia is no less active in Egypt, says Sergey Demidenko, an expert at the Institute for Strategic Assessment and Analysis:

“They provide comprehensive support: political, diplomatic and financial. It is a normal practice, which Saudi Arabia has been conducting for a long time – ever since the 1970s. Qatar decided only recently to also follow this path. It is also learning the political and diplomatic methods, which the Saudi colleagues introduced 40 years ago”.

Egypt is not the only country over which Doha and Riyadh are fighting. The monarchies are also competing in the Maghreb countries, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Palestine, or in the entire territory of the greater Middle East. Evgeniy Satanovsky comments:

“This is a fight over the influence on this or that government, on these or those political forces. It is a fight over economic projects. For example, after Gaddafi was overthrown Qatar and Saudi Arabia began fighting in Africa over the projects related to the Libyan dictator's heritage. In Ethiopia the Salafi suffered a great loss when the Saudis stopped a number of investment projects there while Qatar launched its own projects”.

Experts believe that the removal of Mohamed Morsi was a serious blow to Qatar's positions. And it affected its position not only Egypt, but in all “Arab Spring” countries. Realizing that the Brotherhood's power as well as the power of its Qatar sponsors is not that strong, their opponents in other countries will start an attack.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 09 Jul 2013 19:06

Special Report: Mursi's downfall

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 09 Jul 2013 23:23

Syria opposition government head Ghassan Hitto resigns

Ghassan Hitto was mistrusted by many within the National Coalition
The Syrian opposition figure tasked with forming an interim government to administer rebel-held areas has resigned, citing an inability to do so.In a statement, Ghassan Hitto said he would "continue working for the interests of the revolution".His decision follows a leadership overhaul by the National Coalition.

Ahmed Jarba was named leader of the main opposition alliance on Saturday as Saudi-backed candidates defeated those allied with Qatar in several elections.

On Monday, Mr Jarba warned that there was a "real humanitarian disaster" in the central city of Homs and said he was prepared to offer President Bashar al-Assad a truce during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan to stop the fighting there.As government forces continued an offensive on opposition-held districts of Homs, state media said the army had killed "terrorists" in several areas, including Bab Houd in the Old City and several outlying towns.The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported that Bab Houd and al-Safsafa had been hit by heavy artillery and tank fire on Monday.The UK-based activist group said troops had also captured about a fifth of the besieged northern district of Khalidiya. A government official had earlier claimed that the entire district was under army control.A car bomb also exploded in the predominantly Alawite and Christian area of Akrama, killing at least four people, officials and activists said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23232189

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 10 Jul 2013 04:01

The latest Beirut bombing,in a Hamas controlled zone,shows that the Syrian conflict is quickly spreading to Lebanon,thanks to vested interests.I recently met up with an old Lebanese friend abroad,who when asked about the conflict in Syria and the situation,in a nutshell put it plainly;"the US and west are engaged in promoting a war between the Sunnis and Shiites all over the Middle east,and we in Lebanon are going to be burnt".

With the Gulf entities flush with cash from their "oil-gotten gains","mischief",is certainly afoot,in true cut-throat style.In another thread,on the Morsi debacle,pics were posted showing shockingly,demos supporting Morsi in Mallapuram in Kerala! Thanks to its vote-bank bankrupt policies,the UPA has abdicated the internal security of India and allowed the insidious dumping of Saudi and other Gulf states' moolah into Kerala into creating a Muslim youth brigade that is well organised and which takes its instructions not from within the nation but from abroad. What we see in Egypt and across the Arab and Muslim world,is also stirring in our country and unless a firm hand is taken to stem the rot,the situ in the future will be a bloody one.Under no circumstances should we allow events abroad in the Islamic world to be used to cause instability and internal chaos in India.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 10 Jul 2013 06:07

?...Under no circumstances should we allow events abroad in the Islamic world to be used to cause instability and internal chaos in India.

Saar you are correct that this cancer must be treated, but the magic is in the word "we". Everyone knows what needs to be done, but everyone is looking at each other, unfortunately, including myself. Everyone is waiting for the next Shivaji to descend from somewhere and free us from the 21st century Mughal terror...but I digress.

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Jul 2013 13:40

Syrian Rebels Say They Don’t Expect US to Deliver Promised Arms
See US Goal of Keeping the War Going
by Jason Ditz, July 09, 2013

Syrian rebels are constantly shifting around their statements on US weapons, insisting at times that the arms will be decisive, that they will be “too late,” and now claiming that they have “given up” on ever getting the arms.

link

habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Jul 2013 13:46

Syrian pro-govt sources hold this piece of news to be Israeli propaganda.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/ ... 2920130709

they claim such a raid to be fictional and no such thing has happened in Tartus. Any attack on Russian supplied weaponry in transit will be considered act of war by Russia and shall be responded appropriately, which may also mean that Israel will have its backside handed over to it.

In reality, this is what actually happened.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... -300-plans

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 10 Jul 2013 18:32

Homs is close to being retaken by SAA. Afterwards, they will focus all their energy on taking back Aleppo.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 10 Jul 2013 22:58

habal wrote:Syrian pro-govt sources hold this piece of news to be Israeli propaganda.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/ ... 2920130709

they claim such a raid to be fictional and no such thing has happened in Tartus. Any attack on Russian supplied weaponry in transit will be considered act of war by Russia and shall be responded appropriately, which may also mean that Israel will have its backside handed over to it.

In reality, this is what actually happened.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... -300-plans

Why would any attack on Russian supplied Weaponary be considered as war on Russia , its for the receiving nation to protect the weapons it gets for what it has paid for. A war can only be considered if an attack takes place on the attacking nation asset like say Russian ships with their flag in the area.

Ofcourse Russian wont enter into war on this as its a fight between these two religious sect let them fight and solve their problem , what is to be gained by entering a war and just add to their soldiers body count for no reason ...... US experience in Iraq , Afghanistan is good enough for any one to learn what awaits when one enters a sectarian or complex conflict.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » 11 Jul 2013 10:08

Inquiry on Aleppo chemical attack met int'l standards, unlike West’s - Lavrov

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 12 Jul 2013 16:02

and so, the revolution falls apart...

Key Free Syria Army rebel 'killed by Islamist group'

habal · Post by **habal** » 12 Jul 2013 17:15

video of a russian thermobaric weapon (fuel-air explosive) used over Syrian rebels somewhere in Aleppo.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 13 Jul 2013 01:50

Yes,as the rebels now start "feeding" upon each other,the dismay in wetsren capitals will proportionately increase.They've thrown billions to the rebels and all that they've got is one huge migraine!

The latest US spin on events in Egypt.To qualify for mil. aid which the O'Bomber wants to send to the Egyptian military,recent events cannot be labelled as a coup,which is what it is in truth.So a new phrase has been coined by Washington,"Coup-volution"!

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 13 Jul 2013 07:38

Europe's New 'Time Bomb' Is Ticking in Syria: Hundreds are joining the fight against Assad. Will they return as terrorists?

Woman’s work: The twisted reality of an Italian freelancer in Syria

habal · Post by **habal** » 13 Jul 2013 09:43

Lalmohan wrote:and so, the revolution falls apart...

Key Free Syria Army rebel 'killed by Islamist group'

reports indicate he was ritually slaughtered by the Islamic State of Iraq & Levant (al-qaeda & US affiliate) for demanding that the ISIL come under the joint leadership and command of the FSA coordinating command in Turkey. And also rebuked them for 'destroying the image of the revolution'. As with the muslim ummah anywhere in the world .. it's all about semantics and image since they are well aware that reality is trash anyways, as pertains to their activities.

He was beheaded with a serrated knife and 2 of his companions accompanying him were shot dead.