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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sioxXLS2Uo


Trump's Chilling Threat To Zelensky Days After Clash; 'If You Don't Agree...







Donald Trump issued an open threat to Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky following a public spat.

Trump remarked, 'If someone does not want to make a deal, that person will not be around for very long,' in response to Zelensky's statement that the end of the war with Russia is 'very, very far away.'

Trump's comments highlight growing tensions between the two leaders amid ongoing conflict.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in4GVGy0sSI



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Fox News senior strategic analyst Jack Keane joins 'Fox & Friends Live' to break down the Oval Office spat between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
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The dems seem to have wilfully and maliciously sabotaged the trump zelenskyy meeting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s01Xa1LmCOQ



Zelenskyy met with top Dems before fiery clash with Trump







'Varney & Co.' host Stuart Varney discusses why President Donald Trump's peace deal with Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelenskyy fell apart.
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Megyn Kelly Breaks Down Exactly What Zelensky Did to Provoke the Reaction From Trump and Vance







Megyn Kelly breaks down exactly what President Zelensky did to provoke the reaction he got from President Trump and VP Vance, the way the corporate media has misrepresented the interaction, what we know about Democratic senators urging Zelensky to reconsider the deal just hours before he sat with Trump, and more.
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I can see Rahul Gandhi doing this. There are only two democracies in the world.
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chetak wrote: 04 Mar 2025 03:54 ....
Trump remarked, 'If someone does not want to make a deal, that person will not be around for very long,' in response to Zelensky's statement that the end of the war with Russia is 'very, very far away.'
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That works both ways... The guys who are pressing for the deal might not be around after the next elections.

And what good are deals anyway if they can't be broken later eh

The US has such a stellar record on that - protection to Ukraine in return for giving up nukes, no expansion of NATO, yada yada yada...
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What a time to be alive. We are witnessing the destruction of influence of the worlds sole superpower in real time, by its own government, elected democratically by its own people. This is a ride for the ages.
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And in such a short time as well….usually great powers take a while to fall, this one has started at breakneck speed.

Regrettably, when all is done and dust settles, the pendulum will swing to the other side and we will have the likes of AOC as presidential candidates.
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"Reports of My Fall Are Greatly Exaggerated" --- The US of A.
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Timely opinion piece for those trying to puzzle out what binds peace in Ukraine, DOGE, and increased tariffs together. Comes down to the $s finally.

Unused Trump Card
Western leaders, including Mr. Trump, don’t lack courage to take on Mr. Putin. They lack courage to take on their domestic spending interests.

This is what Mr. Putin also sees. It’s what undergirds China’s strategic bet that the U.S. is on a path of inexorable fiscal decline.
And why there's good reason to try to get defense equipment manufactured more productively.
Biden actually let the U.S. defense budget shrink in real terms amid the Ukraine war.
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President Trump address to joint session of Congress

President Trump gave a speech to the joint session of Congress, on the House floor with Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Vice President JD Vance behind him. President Trump spoke about tariffs, immigration policy, foreign policy, the war in Ukraine with Russia, Elon Musk's DOGE, manufacturing here in the US and many other topics from executive orders to his plans for the next four years.

youtube.com/watch?v=g8xXpZLfjt8
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I believe tariffs on India are set to come on April 2. Trump is probably going to roll back Canada and Mexico tariffs. China is strong enough to weather the tariffs. Its India that will get affected with no respite unless we give in to something.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 04 Mar 2025 05:03 I can see Rahul Gandhi doing this. There are only two democracies in the world.
Absolutely !!
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Victor Davis Hanson on Efforts to Prevent Trump from Becoming President


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Jay wrote: 05 Mar 2025 01:39 What a time to be alive. We are witnessing the destruction of influence of the worlds sole superpower in real time, by its own government, elected democratically by its own people. This is a ride for the ages.
This would have happened even if Trump never appeared on the political scene. The political/economic/social house of cards collapsed following the 2007/2008 financial crisis instigated by the US.

Within 2 generations, about 2070, the US will likely disintegrate. Most of us won’t be around, but BRF will still have discussions on the best 7th generation MRCA the IAF should purchase. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Doctor Umar With a Quick Black History Lesson On #whiteflight #WW1 #WW2

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very short video




Social Shifts U.S. History

American servicemen returned from the First World War only to find a new type of violent conflict waiting for them at home. An outbreak of racial violence known as the “Red Summer” occurred in 1919, an event that affected at least 26 cities across the United States.

Racial tensions across the U.S. were exacerbated by the discharge of millions of military personnel back to their homes and domestic lives following the end of the war. Competition for opportunities in postwar America combined with a radically changed social landscape placed Whites and Blacks in conflict with one another, leading to tragic results.

World War I intensified the Great Migration, the mass emigration of African Americans from the rural South to the industrial North and Midwest in hopes of escaping the poverty and discrimination of Jim Crow laws. By the summer of 1919, approximately 500,000 African Americans had resettled in northern cities. In many cases, northern Whites—many of them newly arrived immigrants themselves—did not welcome Black newcomers.
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bala wrote: 05 Mar 2025 11:51 President Trump address to joint session of Congress
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youtube.com/watch?v=g8xXpZLfjt8
Democrat reply was done by congresswoman Slotkin(D), Michigan. She was very good. I am sure she would enter Dem presidential primaries in 2028. She is the kind of moderate democrat to lead the DNC at this juncture.

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Tanaji wrote: 05 Mar 2025 13:33 I believe tariffs on India are set to come on April 2. Trump is probably going to roll back Canada and Mexico tariffs. China is strong enough to weather the tariffs. Its India that will get affected with no respite unless we give in to something.
Economies like Mexico, Canada, China (and other Asian countries) that have large dependence on exports to USA. The tariffs will hit them significantly.

I am not sure how much impact these tariffs will have on India since goods trade with the US is a relatively small percentage of GDP. Our largest-by-far export to the US currently is in IT services, which are not subject to tariffs.

Two articles, the first one is particularly informative with lots of facts and figures.

The second article says the anticipated "loss" is expected to be about $7 bn/year, which is < 1% of our total foreign trade volume.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 733998.cms

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

Any losses due to US tariffs can easily be made up if FTAs with the EU and other countries are concluded in a timely manner. This will actually strengthen the Indian economy further and not require any extended discussion with USA. A few years of stellar growth will put us in a strong position to entertain a specific trade agreement with USA on our terms.

That said, I believe India will offer reduced tariffs in areas of our interest (and not influenced by any Trump arm-twisting) - and N. Sitaraman has already lowered tariffs on many goods in the recent budget (I posted the details earlier). India will also increase procurement of petroleum and defense equipment from USA.
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^^^ Good. Thanks for posting this.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 06 Mar 2025 02:58
Democrat reply was done by congresswoman Slotkin(D), Michigan. She was very good. She is the kind of moderate democrat to lead the DNC at this juncture.
Sorry Vayu ji, everything she said is opposite the hard facts. The Dumbs chased out all decent jobs towards their buddies China. BillboyClinton admitted China into WTO and from there onwards it is a clean sweep by China of all US industries. Border and illegals the dumbocrats created the mess. Inefficiency in govt spend is well known. Obummer doubled the US debt in a short span of time. All of these things the Repubs were equally culpable, with George W. Bush. About enriching the rich, this happens everywhere in the world. India is a good example of <1% controlling the wealth. Canada & Mexico tariffs is really a tariff on China since China is sneaking in their products via these two nations and also Vietnam. DJT is very different than any Repubs or Dumbocrats, he aint a politician but a businessman. Most El Presidente of US are lawyers and the clan is corrupt to the core. None of the things Slotkin said were convincing, at least to me. She is regurgitating talking points without any substance behind them.
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US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick gives an update on the Trump administration's tariffs plan, and how they’re impacting the global economy. Take it for it is worth. The key focus is on fentanyl drug pouring into US. Canada and Mexico are conduits, China is a great player in manufacturing fentanyl and hopes to drug up the world. Emperor Eleven in DJT 1.0 promised to stop fentanyl drug production in China and was willing to implement the death penalty on anyone making it in China. So much for promises. Canada has trudoodoo who is a drug addict himself. Mexico has cartels who control the drug trade. Come April 2 there is blanket tariff war between US and the rest of the suppliers worldwide. Stock market is jittery. Lutnick believes that many suppliers will make a beeline for manufacture within the US and drive up the job market. So many things up in the air, don't know where things will settle.

youtube.com/watch?v=6c8AAqATVvQ
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KL Dubeyji, thanks.

What prevents the mercurial Trump from putting tariffs on services? The argument that it will affect all US companies that use Indian IT is not strong enough…
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Mort Walker wrote: 05 Mar 2025 19:51 Most of us won’t be around, but BRF will still have discussions on the best 7th generation MRCA the IAF should purchase. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Tanaji wrote: 06 Mar 2025 12:15 KL Dubeyji, thanks.

What prevents the mercurial Trump from putting tariffs on services? The argument that it will affect all US companies that use Indian IT is not strong enough…

Oh its coming...or many leaders with IT think it is a very distinct possibility. My form provides IT services for various Orgs ranging from Private, Govt, and NGO's. When trump got elected, we had contingency plans and gaming scenarios on what will happen at the fed government level, and what happened was much much worse than my team anticipated. We are close to writing off significant portions of 2025 Q1 revenues from this vertical. We have stopped hiring outside US, and inside US as well. We have started contingency plans on how to bring back services from our India office to US offices if there are tariffs or other restrictions going forward. Between 2008-2018, there were tighter visa restrictions on H1B and B1 visas and this drove a ton of work offshore. Between 2018 and 2024, there was a tremendous increase in H1B's and B1 but now we are looking at the possibility of visa restrictions, coupled with tariffs on services.
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Canada and Mexico are conduits, China is a great player in manufacturing fentanyl and hopes to drug up the world. So much for promises. Canada has trudoodoo who is a drug addict himself. Mexico has cartels who control the drug trade.
Trump's Fentanyl ruse is just an excuse to impose tariffs, especially against canada as less than 1% of US fantanyl comes from Canada.

https://www.cfr.org/article/how-does-fe ... ted-states

https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files ... ates_0.pdf

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/04/nx-s1-53 ... xico-trump

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/drug ... statistics
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DJT is very different than any Repubs or Dumbocrats, he aint a politician but a businessman.
A business man who has 6 bankruptcies. I mean for crying out loud, how the heck would you bankrupt a casino? One can like him and support him for whatever reason, but pretending he was a successful businessman is just drinking cool-aid.

Trump's unsuccessful business ventures have included numerous casinos and hotel bankruptcies, the folding of his New Jersey Generals football team, and the now-defunct Trump University.
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Quite a significant issue given the numbers involved. This number is comparable to the ~170,000 people airlifted from Kuwait when the first Gulf War broke out. State governments may be able to help to some extent, but plenty of situations will fall through the cracks.

Over 1 lakh 'dependent' Indian youth fear self-deportation
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Jay wrote: 06 Mar 2025 20:35 A business man who has 6 bankruptcies.
This is the nature of business, there is no mention of DJT as a successful businessman, he is a businessman who has net worth around $7.6 B. He got a leg up due to his dad in NY real estate.

Consider this: most businessman have faced failures and risen up again. That is the nature. However there are a breed of such businessman who have indulged in bad ethics to rise up again. MickeySoft Bill Gates stole Digital Research's Gary Kildall OS and packaged it as MS DOS for IBM. Zuckerberg effectively stole software from his colleagues at Harvard (one is Indian) and formed Faceblock err Meta. Even google founders used Indian Stanford Prof Rajiv Motwani help, some monetary help to form google but he was never acknowledged by google nor compensated.
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Jay wrote: 06 Mar 2025 20:35
DJT is very different than any Repubs or Dumbocrats, he aint a politician but a businessman.
A business man who has 6 bankruptcies. I mean for crying out loud, how the heck would you bankrupt a casino? One can like him and support him for whatever reason, but pretending he was a successful businessman is just drinking cool-aid.

Trump's unsuccessful business ventures have included numerous casinos and hotel bankruptcies, the folding of his New Jersey Generals football team, and the now-defunct Trump University.


Jay ji,


Trump has been elected president for the THIRD time. People tend to miss the woods for the trees, irrelevant details hobble them, while the big picture eludes them.

Waiting in the wings, just a mere heartbeat away, is J D Vance, and the eurotrash and the cheen know well enough by now, what he can do

No matter what else, that fact, by itself, (THIRD time) qualifies him as a unique and never say die fighter, (without an equal in the history of amriki politics). Trumpwa fought them all, including the people who twice tried to kill him

His second presidency was stolen from him by the deep state which tried again recently to derail him and used every trick in the book, and then some, to trip him up.

But somewhere along the way, during the run up to the elections, seeing the writing on the wall, many of the elites lost their nerve, some scattered and others backed out, leaving musk to provide the social media muscle to debunk the commie propaganda of the deep state ecosystem and that included some traitorous and back stabbing clowns from the US military too

one never expected to see a deeply corrosive commie ecosystem that had surreptitiously gained control over the amriki state and its feeble mentally deficient president, the long declared “Land of the free and home of the brave”. had been subverted during the biden, dickhead clinton and obummer years. There is surely a back story to the trumpwa and musk jodi

The last time around trumpwa naively chose his mostly motley team mostly from a plebian political buffet and may be some of the more critical appointments were slyly foisted on to him, but this time he has chosen well and from an epicurean a la carte menu of some considerable quality and tenacity

It was the long and slow building blowback against the commies that actually revived, revitalized, rejuvenated and ultimately resurrected a geopolitically disruptive and a staunch nationalistic figure like trump, but there is a method to his madness

In large parts of the world, the criminal commies are being routed and pushed back

the ex colonial elite filth in europe will take the biggest hit, if not a death blow
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chetak wrote: 06 Mar 2025 22:58
People tend to miss the woods for the trees, irrelevant details hobble them, while the big picture eludes them.
Some folks are looking at the veins of the leaves, forget trees and forests. :mrgreen:
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bala wrote: 06 Mar 2025 22:23 Bill Gates stole Digital Research's Gary Kildall OS and packaged it as MS DOS for IBM.
Bill Gates did much worse WRT Mosaic browser licenced from Spyglass which was the sole authorized licencing entity formed by UIUC. UIUC got scammed to the tune of billions of USD when he bundled Mosaic derived Internet Explorer gratis with Windows. He paid zero royalties as the royalties were supposed to be calculated a percentage of revenues from selling Internet Explorer. BTW, Bill Gates and his sister both were millionaires the day they were born. Their maternal granddad gave them USD 1 million bond each when they were born.

Facebook was a sexist software which was made to rate women in various sororities at Harvard. Interested folks should watch the movie Social Network.

Oracle's Larry Ellison is one utterly unethical CEOs of Silly valley. Bezos is not too far behind. Steve Jobs never gave any charity. They are all psychopaths of the first kind.
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@bala ji
Rajiv Motwani was compensated for sure. He was issued options as a "friend of goole". Probably he also was on the TAB from where he would have been issued some options as well.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 07 Mar 2025 03:35 Steve Jobs ..
Ah Steve Jobs, he visited PARC - Palo Alto research center of Xerox and pinched all their ideas for Apple's 1980s MacIntosh computer - GUI, etc. In his NEXT computer company he took CMU's multithreaded Unix OS which later was incorporated into MAC OS laptop (which is much better than windoze OS). BTW prior to iPhone OS of app based tiny apps for each little thingie, a LG phone had similar things much prior to iPhone debut. One thing everyone needs to check out on YT is James Goslin (of Java programming language fame, Sun Micro) created a project in the 1990s based on a brick like Motorola phone using shuddh object oriented programming + agent based task manager, so very advanced that the current iPhone pales in comparison to such well thought out stellar software.
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The idle flippancy with which random thoughts are put together into "everything and everyone is fawked up" posts is quite hilarious.
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chetak wrote: 06 Mar 2025 22:58
Trump has been elected president for the THIRD time. People tend to miss the woods for the trees, irrelevant details hobble them, while the big picture eludes them.

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The last time around trumpwa naively chose his mostly motley team mostly from a plebian political buffet and may be some of the more critical appointments were slyly foisted on to him, but this time he has chosen well and from an epicurean a la carte menu of some considerable quality and tenacity
I am afraid these statements are rather delusional.
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Jay wrote: 06 Mar 2025 20:22
Tanaji wrote: 06 Mar 2025 12:15 KL Dubeyji, thanks.

What prevents the mercurial Trump from putting tariffs on services? The argument that it will affect all US companies that use Indian IT is not strong enough…

Oh its coming...or many leaders with IT think it is a very distinct possibility. My form provides IT services for various Orgs ranging from Private, Govt, and NGO's. When trump got elected, we had contingency plans and gaming scenarios on what will happen at the fed government level, and what happened was much much worse than my team anticipated. We are close to writing off significant portions of 2025 Q1 revenues from this vertical. We have stopped hiring outside US, and inside US as well. We have started contingency plans on how to bring back services from our India office to US offices if there are tariffs or other restrictions going forward. Between 2008-2018, there were tighter visa restrictions on H1B and B1 visas and this drove a ton of work offshore. Between 2018 and 2024, there was a tremendous increase in H1B's and B1 but now we are looking at the possibility of visa restrictions, coupled with tariffs on services.
Given Trump's worldview, nothing would "prevent" him from putting tariffs on services. It's not only confined to IT services. As you say above, even if there are no tariffs there are already other barriers like H1B restrictions.

Services are a critical 70% of US economy, and US exports more than $1 tn/yr of services and has a large trade surplus with the rest of the world in this area. Hence it is also an area in which reciprocal tariffs applied by other countries will hurt. So, conventional wisdom would indicate it would not be a priority area for applying tariffs.
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chetak wrote: 06 Mar 2025 22:58 Trump has been elected president for the THIRD time.

His second presidency was stolen from him by the deep state
:rotfl:

your guy won, i dont know why you still pretend these lies/conspiracy theories need to be said.
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"your guy" is a oft heard phrase in 2017-2020 and now. My DNC partisan friends used to say this all the time as if Trump is not their president too. Othering too much.
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KL Dubey wrote: 07 Mar 2025 04:56 The idle flippancy with which random thoughts are put together into "everything and everyone is fawked up" posts is quite hilarious.
Do you know anything I repeat anything about MS deal with Spyglass? If not, don't embarrass yourself. oh, well. It doesn't make a difference. You are neither as credible nor as deep a thinker you consider yourself to be.
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