Terror Attacks in Mumbai - III

disha · Post by **disha** » 30 Nov 2008 12:22

Vivek Sreenivasan wrote:John dont be so disheartened when Pakistan Implodes as i have no doubt it will, then we can go in with the US and remove their nukes without a single one being fired. Im looking foward to that day.

Why should we do this and that with US? US will look after its own interest and India should do the same. Do not count on US being there all the time ...

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Nov 2008 12:22

ramana wrote:Rahul, Maybe we should let them start the hostilities like Mrs G let them in 1971!

Absoltely my thoughts too. We should lead Pakistan into this war exactly as IG did. We should do everything to make that happen and quickly too.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Nov 2008 12:23

Shivraj-ji being thrown to the mob is a cheap ploy to paper over the
mullah-friendly policies of the entire UPA regime which leads to numerous
such tragedies.

I dont blame this guy - he was incompetent for the post from the word go,
it was the UPA brains trust which is at fault for both appointing him and
for the criminal policies which kill so many innocents.

10 Janpath has to accept responsibility. they always want to exercise power
without the responsibility of accepting a accountable job.

animesharma · Post by **animesharma** » 30 Nov 2008 12:24

ramana wrote:Next to go has to be MMS. There is no doubt after Patil resigned. Thats the only honorable thing to do and not mumble speeches.

Whats stopping the rolling of Dawood network in Mumbai? If Pawar has to go he has to be rolled out too. Its that clear situation. Have to clean house first before taking other steps.

The West is trying to avoid taking aside for it knows that India is mightily roused and there is nothing the West can do. its only Indians who are stopping themselves. Its a clear case of TSP attack. Its not IM etc. Yes some of them helped but this is a clear case of a commando action by TSP irregulars.

Raman, i don't find that a good idea. This is time for action, and if Congress can't do it, they should better call early election.
it won't be wise to change country's leadership before elections, which may result in coordination related problem.
i bet BJP is enjoying a fest for a confident win in election. but alas! thats a dream. Congress won't give in and MMS won't resign.
A war can't be carried over with change of government.

John Snow · Post by **John Snow** » 30 Nov 2008 12:26

Surya garu>>
Please buy a Red Label for NSG and or ordinary pandu of Maharashtra who was in acton in the last 3 days and nights)
I will rapay here in Massa land.
(I will not default, and I mean it, Remember my $150.00 I sent way back in 1998 /1999).
Thanks in Advance.

Any Press release by MAK Narayanan and his cohorts of NSA at all.

Looks like we need Minutemen like quick mobilization forces in all urban and strategic centers.....

why not land few men in TSP and set off some late Diwali sivakasi bums.

I had thought after the killing of a Brigadier rank officer In Kabul was the last nail in the coffin of restraint....
Whats up with Raj mata Sonia G? why cant she do something atleast roll some heads, after all she is Italian woman (naturalized Indian ) who are supposed to be aggresive in bed or out of it and as such will she not want to protect the throne /Mafiadom for rahul?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Nov 2008 12:27

Vivek Sreenivasan wrote:Amar we stopped the water to build a dam and were going to compensate them water lost as far as i can understand.

Vivek Sreenivasan, your understanding is completely incorrect. Read the 'Indus Water' thread more carefully. You seem to either believe the Pakis or simply parrot the Paki stand.

Sudhanshu · Post by **Sudhanshu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:27

All right folks, this might sound crazy.

How about we launch a snap attack either through commandos or precise missile/ac and target LeT camps (where mastermind of these attacks are based, as evidences from sat phone pointing out). This would be more or less symbolic attack.

Do you think Pakistan will afford to start an all out retaliation? or do you think west would condemn that kind of attack at this point of time.

pran · Post by **pran** » 30 Nov 2008 12:28

Nalayak Patil's accomplishments has been chasing small time bloggers bad mouthing Raj mata and her khandan. That is what the home ministry, ATS, Maharashtra Police is useful for.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Nov 2008 12:28

forcing pakis to pull 100k troops back into Pak may be a good thing.

reason being with the PA gone, the remaining Govt, FC and tribal levies will be massacred in short order and the black flag will fly firmly over peshawar and quetta as the talibs expand strongly to the bank of Indus @ attock.

after two months end the deployment and watch the fun as Unkil and Pakis chase each others tails trying to regain control again of areas they had controlled earlier.

a withdrawal of PA from western border will effectively seal the fission process of the pashtun lands.

it will also bleed them economically and deplete their petroleum reserve
to the extent they might have to use horse and ox carts to move the PA
around.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:29

Can any admins start a new thread with the title "Response to Mumbai terror attack-2008"

Since there is no chance of Pakis handing over the terrorists, cold start is going to be the next step. In this the Pakistan military will be hit hard and made sure that they lose all warfighting capabilities.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Nov 2008 12:30

Agree GD. As I said MMS has to go. There is no second question about that. if he really claims to be the successor to JLN he has to honor the concept of collective responsibility that JLN was famous for.

MMS will go down in history "Unwept, Unsung and Unhung" as Churchill said about Ramsay MacDonald.

Animesharma, he has to go. India willfind its balance. Dont be fooled. He was only a seat warmer. staying in power he is destroying like Dritharastra.

BTW any one missed that scoundrel VP Singh? Even crows wont go to his funeral. And if you are a Hindu you know what that means.

SandeepA · Post by **SandeepA** » 30 Nov 2008 12:30

The one good thing about Patil's resignation is that the group of traitors called GoI now knows someone among them has to pay each time such a thing is allowed to happen.
Coming to the terrorist piglets I really believe publicizing pictures of their burnt and mutilated bodies will be a deterent to wannabe piglets. It may not deter everyone but it will go a long way. The rabble-rousing mullah needs to do a lot more to convince them to mess with us.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Nov 2008 12:30

uddu, there is "Indian Response to terrorism' thread.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Nov 2008 12:33

SandeepA wrote:The one good thing about Patil's resignation is that the group of traitors called GoI now knows someone among them has to pay each time such a thing is allowed to happen.
Coming to the terrorist piglets I really believe publicizing pictures of their burnt and mutilated bodies will be a deterent to wannabe piglets. It may not deter everyone but it will go a long way. The rabble-rousing mullah needs to do a lot more to convince them to mess with us.

Start posting away with description in new thread like "Fate of Mumbai Terrorshits"

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 30 Nov 2008 12:34

Chidambaram is the replacement for patil

animesharma · Post by **animesharma** » 30 Nov 2008 12:34

Any words from Israel government? I heard they were supposed to have a cabinet meet. i would love to have a joint Indo-israel operation.

beside: BJP back to politics, accusing Cong and asking for more resignations. They said "patil's resignations not enough".

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:35

SSridhar wrote:uddu, there is "indian Response to terrorism' thread.

That's not enough. It's a broad based one. We want a thread for a response to this incident. This is going to be a long one especially leading to cold start. Until that we want a separate thread.

Sudhanshu · Post by **Sudhanshu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:36

ramana wrote:Agree GD. As I said MMS has to go. There is no second question about that. if he really claims to be the successor to JLN he has to honor the concept of collective responsibility that JLN was famous for.

MMS will go down in history "Unwept, Unsung and Unhung" as Churchill said about Ramsay MacDonald.

Animesharma, he has to go. India willfind its balance. Dont be fooled. He was only a seat warmer. staying in power he is destroying like Dritharastra.

BTW any one missed that scoundrel VP Singh? Even crows wont go to his funeral. And if you are a Hindu you know what that means.

Yeah, but won't there be a kind of power vacuum? we cannot find replacement so readily.
There is LOT of work to do as PM of India, since Mumbai attack is still fresh in mind of International community. We can just prey MMS uses this situation in best possible way to benefit the country and punish the culprits.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 30 Nov 2008 12:36

Atah kim?
I have been really thinking how things will go forward from here for India? Pakistan has found a cheap way of hurting India. MMS will most probably not attack Pakistan or do something that will change the course. China and US will bail out Pakistan financially, as this is a cheap way to keep India down. Hate for India will be the glue that will keep Pakistan together, and there is no shortage of willing Momins ready to kill Kafirs. So, simply put, we can expect more and more attacks, and attacks that are more successful (as practice makes perfect) in killing more Indians with a devastating effect in our economy, till we get a leadership that has no option but to retaliate. Or we will go the Prithiviraj Chauhan's way, complete defeat. This perhaps is too big a job for a 2 bit country like Pakistan. This leaves us simply with more devastating attacks in the coming months.
Gloomily,
Gautam

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 30 Nov 2008 12:37

Are uddu bhai, now that the operation is over we're discussing the reponse onlee. Fire away...

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:37

animesharma wrote:Any words from Israel government? I heard they were supposed to have a cabinet meet. i would love to have a joint Indo-israel operation.

beside: BJP back to politics, accusing Cong and asking for more resignations. They said "patil's resignations not enough".

Send responses to BJP though e-mail and make sure that they don't play politics now. Tell them it's time to strike back and get together for that.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Nov 2008 12:38

our favourite lady anchor was onsite for NDTV. looked like someone who had lost a dear brother in Shivraj. had the TV on mute, just hearing her
thoughts gives me a ulcer.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:39

Rahul Shukla wrote:Are uddu bhai, now that the operation is over we're discussing the reponse onlee. Fire away...

So we can continue in this thread. Good.

vishal · Post by **vishal** » 30 Nov 2008 12:39

ramana wrote:Did nalayak really quit or only offer to quit? Rascal might pull a stunt.

Congress (I) spokesman confirmed on TV that Shivraj Patil has tendered his resignation. Speculation by TV anchors that the NSA might also have to go. This would be a shame.

animesharma · Post by **animesharma** » 30 Nov 2008 12:40

ramana wrote:
Animesharma, he has to go. India willfind its balance. Dont be fooled. He was only a seat warmer. staying in power he is destroying like Dritharastra.

BTW any one missed that scoundrel VP Singh? Even crows wont go to his funeral. And if you are a Hindu you know what that means.

Raman, Do we have any stable and strong replacement for MMS?

beside, deshmukh seems to be the next to go.

VP singh, he deserve to die this way. can we please make the list of terrorist involved in attack to 11, including this man. he was as good as terrorists.

Sudhanshu · Post by **Sudhanshu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:41

uddu wrote:
animesharma wrote:Any words from Israel government? I heard they were supposed to have a cabinet meet. i would love to have a joint Indo-israel operation.

beside: BJP back to politics, accusing Cong and asking for more resignations. They said "patil's resignations not enough".
Send responses to BJP though e-mail and make sure that they don't play politics now. Tell them it's time to strike back and get together for that.

It would be fun to realize that, Mossad after learning the terrorists who killed Israeli citizens, were controlled by people from POK and so, they went after to assassinate them. Really wish that could happen.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Nov 2008 12:41

NSA might also have to go. This would be a shame.

as far as I understand from some posters here, he is another useless fellow.
do you know if he is a worthwhile guy or more of a madam's courtier?

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 30 Nov 2008 12:42

CNN-IBN reports that India already started troop buildup along the LOC. Now wait for the fireworks

amar_ · Post by **amar_** » 30 Nov 2008 12:43

I havent read any reports that indicate attempts to subdue the terrorists (I dont expect the NSG to provide with information on the methods used in the operation). But, can any gurus comment on why our forces couldnt have used some gases that make ppl unconscious? If no such gases or delivery methods exist, cant we spend money and make some to provide our forces with such things? IRobot makes some robots for military purposes and similar things should be easy to build for DRDO.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Nov 2008 12:43

There will be no power vacuum. Nature abhors a vacuum. If we don't have accountability now we have lost that for ever. Besides MMS never was a power but a figurehead. There is not a single thing he did as the PM.

Also Chidambaram as HM is the very thing that terrorist appeaser Amar Singh wanted. This is out of the frying pan into the fire.

MKN was National Insecurity Adviser. Why do you think its shame for him to go? That scoundrel was bag carrier for DIEnasty. He totally neglected Indian interests for INC interests and he was ex-Civil Servant who swore to protect Indian interests. He should also go as its time to clean house. He will prevent the right action to be taken for INC interests.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 30 Nov 2008 12:44

shynee wrote:CNN-IBN reports that India already started troop buildup.

Yes, a guy who is in some regiment posted that he has been called up in some other forum

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Nov 2008 12:44

Mossad & Shin bet have plenty of resources in Mideast. I am sure if PMO authorized hits on the financiers (like some azamgardhi maulana now residing in KSA), we could obtain some backdoor help.

but make no mistake the butchers knife and the resolve has to shown by
us only. people like to help the winning team, not a MMS led pack of losers.

Chaddi · Post by **Chaddi** » 30 Nov 2008 12:45

The Paki decision to move 100K troops to the Western border is a signal to the Americans to pressure India from doing anything "rash". I hope we launch surgical strikes against LeT training camps, something we should have done a long time ago. We cannot project the image of a soft power to these blood-thirsty murderers. Although I wonder if we have solid intel about where they exist. I am sure the world community will back us and support us in case of such a strike.

Remember, the UK and the US will try to persuade us from launching any type of military strike as it's not in their interest for Pakis to stop supporting them in Afghanistan to come to the eastern front for India. But when have the Americans ever supported us? Their hypocritical stance on this issue has been seen over and over again. While it's perfectly okay for them to launch unilateral attacks in countries which harbors terrorists, it's not okay for India to do the same thing.

vishal · Post by **vishal** » 30 Nov 2008 12:45

Troop build-up being reported on the border. Just this shows we are doing nothing different from last time. No Cold Start, just digging in.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:45

Another thing is we must stop listening to U.S or Israel about our response. It's our war and others must keep out of it. Set an objective and fight till you achieve it. We are going to capture a lot of Pakis whom can be traded for our land that we recapture.

animesharma · Post by **animesharma** » 30 Nov 2008 12:45

New e-mail threat to BSE, Delhi airport
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/30m ... irport.htm

new report: Troops on LOC told to be ready. Possible mobilization order coming up.

has Cong declared chidambram as HM? or in the process?

Sudhanshu · Post by **Sudhanshu** » 30 Nov 2008 12:45

So, what you suggest who would be next PM, HM, and NSA

We cannot do election at this point of time.

Any guru know, is constitution has some solution on such peculiar situation. (especially when the ruling party is out of competent leaders)
President rule?

venkat_r · Post by **venkat_r** » 30 Nov 2008 12:47

This uncalled for, but overdue, Patil's resignation shows the thinking of the ruling circle in govt now. Pathetic, Trying to deflect the blame and errect some fall guys - just watch out for more of this same. Seems like trying to find ways to get back the deposit in the elections.

Surya · Post by **Surya** » 30 Nov 2008 12:48

My Israeli friends sent me this

My Dear Friend,

We want to share my deep condolences with you and with the entire Indian people, although our small nation suffer from terrorist attacks on a daily basis im socked from the never ending brutality of the attackers.
Something very strong is connecting between our two old and civilized nations, and we want to share the strong support of the Jewish state with your civilized nation and her justice war against evil.

Only The Best,

Eli,Uzi,Ohai

My reply
amongst other things
Take out the Iranian nukes - no matter what -

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 30 Nov 2008 12:48

This is from TOI. No official confirmation

animesharma wrote: has Cong declared chidambram as HM? or in the process?