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Washington, March 29 (UPI) -- It was Pakistan's week in Washington with much talk of a new, deeper geopolitical understanding between the United States and a "major non-NATO ally." The star was Pakistan's army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, and the country's de facto politico-military power.

The Pakistani army has taken over from ineffectual, corrupt civilian governments four times since independence. This time, the civilians haven't been ousted but outed as incompetent and irrelevant. President Asif Zardari, widower of Benazir Bhutto, is slowly ceding his frequently ignored powers and turning them over to Wazir-e-Azam (Grand Minister, or Prime Minister in Western governments) Yousuf Raza Gilani and his civilian government. But they can't seem to keep major cities in around-the-clock electric power, let alone basic foodstuffs. Water shortages also plague Pakistan's 175 million people.

Bottom line is that the Kerry-Lugar aid package of $7 billion over five years is yet to make a difference. Chances are it never will. As Kayani told his American interlocutors, the new aid package has created a battalion of administrators -- i.e., much red tape -- and is being allocated here, there and everywhere in relatively small amounts that cover key needy sectors, insufficient to produce tangible results.

Kayani impressed U.S. officials, think tankers and journalists with the extent of the military's campaign against extremists. Since 9/11, the Pakistani army has sustained 30,810 killed and wounded, 10,000 in 2009 alone, or 10 soldiers a day. Terrorists arrested or killed: 17,742. Those who believe the army is reluctant to leave the Indian front to fight in Pakistan's tribal areas were reminded Pakistan now has 147,000 troops on the western front. That compares favorably with the 101,500 from 43 nations on the other side of the border in Afghanistan against the same enemy -- Taliban.

If so shouldnt the Taliban be decimated between the ~250k troops? OTH, it is resurgent under the TSPA protection!}

Out of all the nations with troops in Afghanistan, only the British and Canadians are authorized to fight under the NATO flag alongside U.S. units. But Pakistan has 88 infantry and 58 Frontier Corps battalions and 80 percent of army aviation assets involved in the same fight on the other side of the mythical border, known as the Durand line, a hangover from the British raj.

Pakistan also has 821 army border posts all along the 1,400-mile border versus 112 for coalition forces. Last week, a Pakistani colonel was killed in action in Orakzai, which brought the total number of officers KIA against Taliban and their foreign friends (mostly Uzbeks) to 82, including one three-star general, two two-stars and six one-stars. Those who say the Pakistanis are reluctant to fight their own nationals who are terrorists now have a different picture.

{Can we have fact check of this number? Looks like TSPA officers were ready to let their men die against the Taliban. How many of these were the FC troops who are not really regular Army?}

Pakistani regulars had never fought in South Waziristan, forbidding mountainous terrain favored by Taliban. It's one of the seven "Federally Administered Tribal Areas," and Kayani told his American friends "is now completely cleared."

As the scenic Swat valley was taken over by Taliban in 2007, some 2.3 million people abandoned their homes for the safety of government refugee camps. Hedged by mountains up to 20,000 feet high, the valley was liberated by the army last year and most of the refugees are now back, Kayani told his American audiences.

North Waziristan is where both al-Qaida and the Afghan wing of Taliban are holed up in networks of tunnels and caves. Anxious to avoid another exodus of an estimated 400,000 refugees, the army operates there with a low profile; usually Special Forces acting on U.S. drone-supplied intelligence. {Or is to protect them from US wrath? If it has mountains and caves it cant be heavily populated!}

Pakistan's military surge launched 138 operations in 2009 and 82 so far this year. There was, inevitably, a Taliban blow back. They launched almost 2,000 terrorist incidents throughout Pakistan. Yet U.S. and NATO supply lines from the port of Karachi into Afghanistan via the Khyber Pass and through Baluchistan to Kandahar have been secured after much sabotage and Taliban attacks. Kayani said Pakistan is still handling 84 percent of cargo container traffic to Afghan cities, 40 percent of fuel needs, or 120,000 gallons a day. Out of 58,700 container trucks that ply the two routes, Kayani said the loss was 0.1 percent in nine years.

Were they carrying special cargo?}

Optimistic statistics aside, Pakistani public opinion is arguably the world's most anti-American. A prominent Pakistani retired intelligence chief told the world, three weeks after 9/11, that the Twin Towers and the Pentagon had been part of an elaborate U.S.-Mossad conspiracy to deceive the world. Gen. Hamid Gul's preposterous anti-U.S. yarn was swallowed hole by most Pakistanis -- to this very day. {Minor quibble. Shouldnt the word be "whole" and not hole?} :mrgreen:

The purpose of the conspiracy, according to retired Pakistani intelligence operatives, was to provide a pretext for the United States to invade Afghanistan, the first stage, they explain, to moving into Pakistan to neutralize its nuclear arsenal. Even retired senior officers have told this reporter they tend to believe Gul. As do most Pakistani media.

There is also widespread paranoia about a nonsensical secret U.S.-Indian deal that would turn the part of Kashmir controlled by Pakistan over to India. So public opinion support for U.S.-Pakistan military cooperation is fragile. Anything that goes wrong will automatically be blamed on the "pro-Indian" Obama administration.

There is also a shallow political consensus on the home front against non-state actors, such as Taliban. This, in turn, means strategic constraints. The Pakistani army's military budget sharply curtails cutting-edge military technologies.

The army has turned the tide against extremists and terrorists. Public opinion, for the time being, backs what the army is now doing. But the support is a mile wide and an inch deep. Pakistanis, for the most part, are anti-war and anti-U.S. Kayani has convinced them, at least for a while, to back a comprehensive approach in the way forward. Deny spaces to the terrorists by occupying their bases. "Like in baseball," he says, "four civilian bases" have to be loaded -- religion, social justice, faster civil justice, law and order -- to deny them to the enemy, along with four military bases -- clear, hold, build and transfer.

The way forward, for Kayani, is to turn the tide by keeping up the momentum and "optimizing the enabling environment provided by the military." The key to success is a sound economy which is tantamount to strategic stability.

With one out of three Pakistanis below the local poverty line and half a million young men brainwashed to hate America/India/Israel graduating yearly from 12,500 madrassas, it's an awesomely tall order.

Good spin and lot of facts. Kiyani makes it look like he has two front war whereas he has second tier para military troops against the Taliban and even less number of troops in North Waziristan where it matters most. And Arnaud De'Brochgrave is buying the BS!
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Afghan Leader Is Seen to Flout Influence of U.S.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/world ... arzai.html
This month, with President Hamid Karzai looking ahead to a visit to the White House, he received a terse note from aides to President Obama: Your invitation has been revoked.

The reason, according to American officials, was Mr. Karzai’s announcement that he was emasculating an independent panel that had discovered widespread fraud in Mr. Karzai’s re-election last year.

Incensed, Mr. Karzai extended an invitation of his own — to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, who flew to Kabul and delivered a fiery anti-American speech inside Afghanistan’s presidential palace.

Karzai was enraged,” said an Afghan with knowledge of the events, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the issue. “He invited Ahmadinejad to spite the Americans.”

The dispute was smoothed over only this week, when Mr. Obama flew to Kabul for a surprise dinner with Mr. Karzai. White House officials emphasized that the most important purpose of Mr. Obama’s trip to Afghanistan was to visit American troops there.

But the red carpet treatment of Mr. Ahmadinejad is just one example of how Mr. Karzai is putting distance between himself and his American sponsors, prominent Afghans and American officials here said. Even as Mr. Obama pours tens of thousands of additional American troops into the country to help defend Mr. Karzai’s government, Mr. Karzai now often voices the view that his interests and the United States’ no longer coincide.

Neither Mr. Karzai nor his spokesman, Waheed Omar, could be reached Monday. But according to Afghan associates, Mr. Karzai recently told lunch guests at the presidential palace that he believes the Americans are in Afghanistan because they want to dominate his country and the region, and that they pose an obstacle to striking a peace deal with the Taliban. During the recent American-dominated military offensive in the town of Marja — the largest of the war — Mr. Karzai stood mostly in the shadows.

Indeed, the recent behavior by Mr. Karzai offers the latest illustration of the central dilemma that faces the Obama administration in Afghanistan: how to influence the actions of an ally who they increasingly regard as unreliable, without undermining America’s ultimate goals here.

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Some prominent Afghans say that Mr. Karzai now tells associates that the Americans’ goal here is not to build an independent and peaceful Afghanistan, but to exercise their power.

In January, Mr. Karzai invited about two dozen prominent Afghan media and business figures to a lunch at the palace. At the lunch, he expressed a deep cynicism about America’s motives, and of the burden he bears in trying to keep the United States at bay.

“He has developed a complete theory of American power,” said an Afghan who attended the lunch and who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. “He believes that America is trying to dominate the region, and that he is the only one who can stand up to them.”

Mr. Karzai said that, left alone, he could strike a deal with the Taliban, but that the United States refuses to allow him. The American goal, he said, was to keep the Afghan conflict going, and thereby allow American troops to stay in the country.

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Mr. Karzai’s ultimate motives are not always clear. It may be that while Mr. Karzai supports the Americans presence here, he believes that distancing himself from the United States plays well among average Afghans.

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But the recent visit by Mr. Ahmadinejad seemed designed to generate as much attention as possible — including in Washington. With Mr. Karzai standing at his side in Kabul, Mr. Ahmadinejad accused the United States of promoting terrorism.
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Nigthwatch on Hekmatyar's talks:
Afghanistan: Power sharing. The Hezb-e-Islami Afghanistan, led by Gulbaddin Hekmatyar, is ready for a second round of peace talks with the Afghan government to discuss its proposals.

A spokesman for the Hezb-e-Islami told the Afghan Islamic Press yesterday that the group had presented proposals to the government in the first round of talks. "In the first round of talks we came to know that all Afghans want the withdrawal of foreign forces from Afghanistan, but more talks will be held to evolve a mechanism for the pullout of foreign forces from the country,” the spokesman said. "The second round of the talks will begin in a couple of days in which some 15 proposals by Hezb-e-Islami will be discussed."
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To one TSP is a "brother", to another TSP is "Family". And, one and the another are at logger heads. Guess TSP will win out in this feud.

I can now appreciate Indian "re-alignment".

This seems like a great topic for RKLaxman.
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ramana wrote:....<SNIP> Good spin and lot of facts. Kiyani makes it look like he has two front war whereas he has second tier para military troops against the Taliban and even less number of troops in North Waziristan where it matters most. And Arnaud De'Brochgrave is buying the BS!
While I don't know about officer casualty, longwarjournal.com and orbat.com had put up the orbat of PA was operations in NWFA - FATA. There were at least 6-7 Divisions (some from their Strike Corps-ARN/ARS) operating in that area.
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Renaming NWFP is all about Pakhtun identity
The 1998 census showed that 73.9 per cent of NWFP's population spoke Pashto, 3.86 per cent, largely in Dera Ismail Khan, spoke Saraiki, 0.97 per cent Punjabi, 0.78 per cent Urdu, 0.04 per cent Sindhi and 0.01 per cent Balochi. A significant 20.43 per cent people listed in the "Others" column obviously included speakers of Hindko (believed to around 18 per cent), Chitrali, Gojri and other languages.

73.9 per cent Pakhtuns in the census mentioned Pashto as their mother tongue, though there are many others in Dera Ismail Khan, including the Jadoons, Tarins, Mashwanis and Swatis in Hazara region and Miankhels, Gandapurs and Kundis, who are Pakhtuns but have forgotten Pashto. Challenge them that they aren't Pakhtun, and there is a chance they might come to blows with you.

Even though the tribal areas have a largely separate administrative setup, it is headed by the governor of NWFP. If the FATA figures are added to those of the settled areas or districts falling under NWFP, the percentage of Pakhtuns and Pashto-speakers will rise even further.

Ignoring the aspirations of the Pakhtun people (15.42 per cent), who form the second-largest ethnic group in Pakistan after Punjabis (44.15 per cent) and refusing to provide them an identity in the renaming of their province, would be both undemocratic and unjust.
Ethnic aspirations in Chitral, where people are wary of Pashtuns, should see it being rejoined with Gilgit-Baltistan region of J&K State. Similarly Hindko areas of NWFP should be joined together with Hindko and Potohari regions of Punjab to form a new state in North Punjab. And Seraikis of South Punjab should also get their own state.

The satisfaction of ethnic Pashtun identity will ultimately result in a division of the largest province.
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Afghan's Karzai calls Clinton to discuss fraud comments
The official added that Karzai "expressed surprise that his comments had caused a stir" in U.S. circles.
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Explosions near U.S. consulate in Peshawar kill at least 6
The coordinated attack involved a vehicle suicide bomb and attackers who tried to enter the consulate by using grenades and weapons fire, the U.S. Embassy said in a statement.
Seems similar to the attack on the Indian embassy in Kabul. One clear way to tell not to talk with "us".

Where are those F-16s when we really need them?
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Airavat wrote: Ethnic aspirations in Chitral, where people are wary of Pashtuns, should see it being rejoined with Gilgit-Baltistan region of J&K State. Similarly Hindko areas of NWFP should be joined together with Hindko and Potohari regions of Punjab to form a new state in North Punjab. And Seraikis of South Punjab should also get their own state.

The satisfaction of ethnic Pashtun identity will ultimately result in a division of the largest province.
I have yet to see a single MEA person express the same view as done above. Kudos to you and it will be obvious to folks who know the geographical and demographics of Chitral and what it means for India, in context of TSP and Afghanistan.
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ShauryaT wrote:
Airavat wrote: Ethnic aspirations in Chitral, where people are wary of Pashtuns, should see it being rejoined with Gilgit-Baltistan region of J&K State. Similarly Hindko areas of NWFP should be joined together with Hindko and Potohari regions of Punjab to form a new state in North Punjab. And Seraikis of South Punjab should also get their own state.

The satisfaction of ethnic Pashtun identity will ultimately result in a division of the largest province.
I have yet to see a single MEA person express the same view as done above. Kudos to you and it will be obvious to folks who know the geographical and demographics of Chitral and what it means for India, in context of TSP and Afghanistan.
Lord Curzon created NWFP in ~1905 to have direct rule in the Pashtun areas East of Durand Line. He added ~9 districts from Punjab to make the area administratively viable. So those districts need to be detached from Pakhtunkwa.
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I was asking what are India's options and set off a mini skrimish here. Meanwhile Hindu's Atul Aneja writes on the very same subject!

India and Iran's Afpak policy

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As the geopolitical alignments ahead of the U.S. pullout begin to emerge, India's absence is glaring. Piqued by India's high profile in Kabul, Pakistan's military establishment has been looking for openings that would allow it to achieve its maximalist objective of seeking India's hasty, and preferably unseemly, exit from Afghanistan.

However, two major hurdles have been impeding Pakistan's path so far. First, the rapid improvement in Indo-U.S. ties during the Bush presidency firmly deterred it ,from taking India head-on in Afghanistan. Second, the Afghan presidency, closely tied to New Delhi since 2001, was hostile to Islamabad.

However, the scenario changed dramatically with the exit of the Bush administration and the emergence of Barack Obama. Focussed on an exit strategy from Afghanistan, the Americans deepened their security dependence on the Pakistanis in the hope of achieving rapid success. As a result, the Indian fortress in Afghanistan which looked impregnable during the Bush era was breached. Pakistan utilised this opportunity to the hilt.

A staunch ally of India for several years, President Karzai after his re-election last year began to exhibit unusual warmth towards Pakistan. His description of India as a friend and Pakistan as a conjoined twin during his visit to Islamabad was widely seen as a demonstration of his waning affection towards New Delhi.

There has been a significant deterioration in India-Iran ties since New Delhi voted against Tehran at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) on the Iranian nuclear programme. In fact, the day India voted against Iran, it seriously jeopardised its project in Afghanistan. Without a geographically contiguous border, India can extend its reach into Afghanistan only through the Iranian corridor.

With its back to the wall, how does India propose to get back into the great game of realignments beginning to unfold in and around Afghanistan? It can draw some inspiration from its diplomatic conduct in the past — when it worked successfully with the Iranians, Russians and Central Asians, especially the Tajiks to unroll the Northern Alliance against the Taliban in 2001. With the recent visit of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin to New Delhi where discussions on Afghanistan took place, India has taken its first major step in the right direction.

Mending fences with Iran has to be India's next major undertaking. However, in trying to rework its relations, India is left with only one weighty card, which it can play with good effect provided it begins to view its national interests independently and not through the tinted glasses of the U.S. With its huge requirements of energy, India needs to get back to the Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) gas pipeline project. But in doing so, it has to substantially modify the arrangement and turn it around to suit its core long-term interests.

Iran would, with considerable enthusiasm, welcome India's participation in this project, as is evident from the provisions included in the gas deal that was signed by Iran and Pakistan in Istanbul in March. Therein lies the opportunity for India to claw back into the arrangement and take it forward from there.

Instead of waiting for others like Pakistan to seize the initiative, India can benefit substantially by boldly and formally initiating the introduction of two significant players — Russia and China — into this tie up. The Russian gas giant Gazprom has already expressed its keen interest to participate in IPI. Gazprom's representative in Tehran, Abubakir Shomuzov, has called for the extension of IPI to China, in an arrangement that would tie Russia, China, India, Pakistan and Iran together in a giant project.

Russia's participation in the IPI would be crucial for India. With Russia firmly on its side, India can, with greater ease and confidence, engage with China in this cooperative enterprise. In the debate on the extension of IPI to China, the route that this pipeline can pursue would be of vital importance. If India has to take advantage of this extension, it has to insist that the pipeline passing through Iran and Pakistan should go through an Indian transit corridor and no other alternative route before entering China.

Such an arrangement would greatly help in making the IPI-plus arrangement more stable and workable. With China, Pakistan's all-weather friend as the final beneficiary, Islamabad would find it impossible to block supplies to India. In other words, the routing of the pipeline to China via India, and the interdependence that it would generate among the various stakeholders would become New Delhi's insurance policy for obtaining assured gas supplies from Iran via Pakistan.

There is a final diplomatic dimension which needs to be added if IPI-plus is to succeed. Critics of the IPI rightly point to the security problems that this project, in the current circumstances, is bound to encounter during the pipeline's passage through the turbulent province of Balochistan. A comprehensive dialogue may therefore be the way forward to resolve this problem. India, which in recent years has gone into a diplomatic shell, can take the high-ground and propose a comprehensive six-party process. Besides itself, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Russia, China and Iran can become the core participants of this arrangement. Such a forum, carefully constructed, adequately resourced and energetically led can take head-on not only the question of Baluchistan, but all other issues that may stand in the way of a lasting trans-national energy partnership.
So the mandarins are thinking. At same time India should beef up its forces to be ready to give a strong blow to TSP if needed. Its the carrot and stick that are needed as Winston said.
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India will be challenged to get the stick into that region, now that Iran and perhaps even Karzai is showing signs of resistance or perhaps some pay back.

the regional dynamics seems to have changed substantially enough for India to get worried.
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How is mending fences with Iran to level were we have a co-ordinated strategy for Afghanistan affect our relationship with USA and Israel? As long as it comes out of The Hindu, I am having a hard time not thinking about politburo agenda behind it!
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And our relationship with the US has secured our interests in Afghanistan very well, hasn't it.
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Rudradev wrote:And our relationship with the US has secured our interests in Afghanistan very well, hasn't it.
One could say, that we have a foothold in Afghanistan because of the US presence over there. But that time has past us. The Hindu's Atul Aneja is very casually telling us to leave our current positions and get in bed with our two true enemies, China and Pakistan. Israel as far as we are concerned has now turned into a strategic asset similar to Russia. But then again, so is Afghanistan, So how do we secure Afghanistan and Iran, without antagonizing the Israeli's.
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Israel (thankfully) has an independent streak. While Israel acts, the rest will maintain 'we prefer a diplomatic solution' and clap behind everyone's back. On one hand India technically "seems" to be getting better at the game. But how good is the political wing doing remains to be seen. Typically the political wing always sleeps, reacts, pays more than required and then of course declares victiory.

One observation: The USDoD seems to be (always) in a greater hurry than the USSD. Natural I would think, but this does produce dynamics that need to be taken into account and managed. While TSP manages the DoD, India is more inclined to manage the SD. Again, natural.
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Kavu-ji,

Two things about the Israelis.

First, they are masters of realpolitik and, despite being an ideologically founded state, recognize the need to co-opt lesser enemies against greater ones. For instance, though Jordan was one of the powers arrayed against Israel in two wars, the Israelis have managed to reach an understanding with the Jordanian elite Hashemites who also consider the Palestinians a threat. In this regard, they are more than likely to understand our compulsions to do what we need to do, and will not oppose our relationship with Iran on purely ideological grounds (as the US might). They will not oppose it unless it directly affects them in some negative way.

Israelis are also realistic enough to see that India is not in some hugely influential position that our rapprochement with Iran would giving Iran some kind of increased "legitimacy" (as maybe the overt friendship of a P-5 member might gain for Iran). For example, Israel (unlike the US) is not overly concerned to see that we vote against Iran in the IAEA; an abstention from us would have had the same overall result, and would have been acceptable. As long as we did not vote in support of Iran's nuclear program, or in some way brought Iran closer to having nukes, I don't think it would matter to the Israelis. Compared to Russia or China, or for that matter Pakistan, our relationship to Iran's nuclear ambitions is negligible anyway.

Second, the Israelis don't have global or even regional ambitions beyond their survival in their corner of the world. They aren't too concerned what goes on east of Iran, again as long as there are no developments that affect them directly. Israelis aren't going to pick fights or make enemies with countries outside West Asia or Northeast Africa on the basis of matters that do not concern them. As long as the Indo-Iranian relationship stopped short of actual mil-tech cooperation (or nuclear cooperation) I don't think the Israelis would feel that they had anything to lose by continuing their profitable armaments trade with New Delhi.
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Gibbs: White House could cancel Karzai visit
An upcoming U.S. visit by Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai could be called off if he continues to make troubling political statements, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said Tuesday.
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Massive effort to move military out of Iraq, into Afghanistan
As the U.S. military starts a drawdown of troops in Iraq, it finds itself in the midst of the largest logistical movement of weapons, vehicles and other equipment since the build-up to World War II, according to the general in charge of the operation.
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IOL: Pasha is under pressure after the assault on US consulate. There has been repproacchment between ISI and the US counterparts. The Taliban said the attack was in retaliation for air raids by unmanned U.S. aircraft in Pakistan's tribal zones. Pasha was at the centre of the US Pak strategic dialogue in washington. 11 F 16's asked to be delivered to TSP which have been gathering dust for last 20 years. Pakistan has asked the U.S. to provide it with combat helicopters, drones and a loads of radars of various ranges. TSP has been asking for these for a long time.

Qureshi was in riyadh, Riyadh has offered to be a mediator on Kashmir. Riyadh will add significantly to the $7.5 billion offered by the US.
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Pakistan 'army air strike kills dozens of civilians'

Different nationality, same result.
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Meanwhile Pioneer op-ed on the Moscow bombing and how it might be to draw Russian into the Af-pak quagmire.
OPED | Wednesday, April 14, 2010 | Email | Print |


A sinister trap for Moscow

Shashi Shekhar

Reports attributing the Dagestan attacks and the Moscow bombings to Ilyas Kashmiri’s Lashkar-al-Zil must be viewed as a deliberate attempt to provoke Russia into injecting itself into the AfPak quagmire

A Pakistani-origin Muslim American was charged last week by the Federal Bureau of Investigation for attempting to send funds to 313 Brigade chief Ilyas Kashmiri. Raja Lahrasib Khan, who is a naturalised citizen of the United States and a cab driver in Chicago, claimed to have known Ilyas Kashmiri for many years and bragged to undercover officers that he had met with Kashmiri several times and had stayed with him. The case against Khan is primarily one of sending funds and attempting to send funds to Ilyas Kashmiri. Khan is also accused of having discussed with an individual associated with Ilyas Kashmiri on preliminary plans to conduct a terror attack inside the US at a sports stadium.

The 35-page complaint filed against Khan in the US District Court of North Illinois contains transcripts of extensive conversations between Khan and undercover agents in addition to conversations between Khan and individuals based in Pakistan to whom he had wired money. The most significant revelations from the complaint are references to Ilyas Kashmiri’s whereabouts. Ilyas Kashmiri whom Khan calls Lala was said to have met Khan in Miran Shah and then again in Kotli in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir. There are unsubstantiated references to arms being purchased on the black market from Russia and China. There are also revelations of Ilyas Kashmiri’s intentions to train individuals who can carry out terror strikes inside the US. The other significant but unsubstantiated revelation from Khan is that Ilyas Kashmiri was directly in touch with Osama bin Laden and that he is alive.

The Khan case also focusses the spotlight back on Ilyas Kashmiri who has also been described as the head of the Lashkar-al-Zil or Shadow Army.

In a curious turn of events there has been a sustained attempt over the last few days within sections of the Pakistani media to attribute indirect responsibility of the terror attacks in Russia to Ilyas Kashmiri’s Lashkar-al-Zil. The attacks on the Moscow metro conducted by female suicide bombers and the attacks in Dagestan have since been claimed by the Emir of the Caliphate of Caucasus Umer Dokuv. That however has not deterred media outlets with access to Ilyas Kashmiri ascribing indirect responsibility to Al Qaeda’s Lashkar-al-Zil and to training camps in Waziristan.

The first such report which appeared within 24 hours of the attack in the Asia Times Online quoted reliable jihadi sources and was vague in its claim of indirect responsibility. While acknowledging that the attack itself may have been planned and executed by Chechen groups, the report claimed that the female suicide bombers were in all likelihood trained in the AfPak theatre. The report was also quite specific on the corridor used by the Chechens from AfPak to Russia through Iran with the support from the Jundullah.

The second report, which appeared on April 2, 2009, is far more specific and direct on Ilyas Kashmiri’s role. The report titled ‘Ilyas Kashmiri strategy behind Dagestan attacks’ is quite extensive in attributing responsibility to Ilyas Kashmiri’s Lashkar-al-Zil for all major attacks of mass terror starting from the attack on Serena Hotel in Kabul, the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, and a string of attacks in Lahore and Rawalpindi, including the deadly attacks on the GHQ and the Parade Lane mosque. The report also interestingly makes a reference to Ilyas Kashmiri-sponsored 313 Brigade attack in Akhnoor in Kashmir as well as to the 2002 Gujarat riots. :?:

The report concludes with a warning not only to Russia but also to the US and its Nato allies operating in Afghanistan. The report also has an intriguing reference to robbing of banks, financial institutions and other unconventional means of fund raising. It must be noted that there is a precedent in ransom money from high-profile kidnapping being used to fund terror attacks. Ilyas Kashmiri’s associates have been accused in the kidnapping of actress Juhi Chawla’s uncle and film producer Satish Anand in Pakistan. :?:

It is clear from the last 14 terror attacks in India that the Manmohan Singh-led Government will not be provoked into military action. The same cannot be said of the Vladimir Putin regime which is known for its low tolerance for terror and for its heavy response to terror. These series of reports must be viewed as a deliberate attempt being made to provoke Russia into injecting itself into the AfPak quagmire.

A similar attempt was made to provoke India following the Pune bombing with multiple claims from inside Pakistan vying with each other to confirm that the attack was sponsored by Pakistan-based groups.

It is must be a matter of concern that Pakistan-based Islamists are playing a dangerous game by testing the threshold for tolerance against terror. India’s high threshold will be under stress if the next attack is a high profile political assassination or an attack with undeniable fingerprints of the Pakistani military. The Indian security establishment must review its strategy to pre-empt these scenarios and must also be prepared to effectively deal with their aftermath should they unfortunately play out.

-- The writer, an expert on security affairs, tracks terrorism in South Asia.
Lots of info in his article. Has anyone seen the pdf of the charges against the cab driver ?
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Very important article by an important writer..
X-posted by putnanja..

Pakistan: perceptions, prejudices & policies - Chinmaya R. Gharekhan
Pakistan is not at all unhappy with the present situation; if talks take place, it wins, if they don't, India is on the defensive.
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Three issues dominate the India-Pakistan discourse — Kashmir, water and Afghanistan. On the way from the airport to the city, a square is named ‘Kashmir Chowk.' There is a sign: Srinagar 380 km. Water is now raised to the same level of importance as, perhaps even more than, Kashmir. Afghanistan, the Pakistanis insist, is best left to Pakistan, and to the Afghans of course; India should not want a role there. At the least, it should not permit its consulates to carry out subversive activities in Balochistan. Some people, who would certainly know better, place the number of Indian consulates in Afghanistan at 12! (The actual number is four and they have been functioning since 1949.) Incidentally, there are about 60,000 Pakistani workers in Afghanistan as opposed to around 4,000 from India.
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No less a person than Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi himself publicly admitted that nearly 40 million acre feet of water goes to the sea for want of storage capacity and that India is not to blame for this state of affairs; his remark was blanked out in the Pakistani media. The print and electronic media ceaselessly churn out stories of India stealing Pakistan's water, building hundreds of dams, destroying ecology in PoK, etc.
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.The Taliban, which Mr. Karzai wants integrated, is not the one Pakistan prefers. It seems Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who landed up in Kabul without an invitation, is laying down conditions which Mr. Karzai is in no mood to even consider, such as new presidential and parliamentary elections and the pullout of American and Nato forces within six months. It is obvious that the relations between the Taliban and Pakistan deteriorated during the period immediately preceding and following 9/11. This is described in detail in Mullah Zaeef's book My life with the Taliban. Zaeef uses some ‘choice' words to describe his feelings towards Pakistan. Pakistan would like to use its influence with the Taliban's senior leadership in the process of reconciliation and reintegration, whereas the U.S. wants to persuade the foot soldiers and lower levels of the Taliban to switch loyalties. There is some scope for serious differences between Pakistan and the U.S. on this score though we in India ought not to bank too much on them. Pakistan continues to be indispensable to Barack Obama's objectives in Afghanistan; he knows it and Pakistan knows it. Islamabad may not be very successful in using this leverage to persuade Washington to pressure New Delhi on India-Pakistan issues, but it will not be for want of trying.
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This writer's hunch is that Pakistan is not at all unhappy with the present situation; if talks take place, Pakistan wins, if they don't, India is on the defensive. On balance, we should indicate our willingness to schedule another Secretary-level round, but not in a hurry and certainly not in a time-bound framework dictated by the timing of SAARC or other multilateral meetings. At the same time, we must not fight shy of discussing any subject Pakistan may wish to raise, including Kashmir. Let it elaborate its views on Kashmir. We can easily do the same, refuting its position. The only subject we must not discuss — as distinct from not allowing it to be mentioned — is water, which should be discussed only in the framework of the Indus Treaty.
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ramana wrote: Has anyone seen the pdf of the charges against the cab driver ?
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA v. RAJA LAHRASIB KHAN
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Thanks.

UCV had this show on last night.

Envisioning a Different US relationship with Afghanistan, Pakistan and India

Dr Cynthia Mahmood talks about the need to brag in tribal culture.Recall Gilani's lies about mtg with MMS.
See the sidebar for the rest of the series.
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PDF of the Proceedings

an excerpt
Cynthia Mahmood noted that, for the U.S.
government,“the most important thing has not
been finding Bin Laden.The most important
thing has been preserving the stability of Pakistan,
because we wanted to preserve the statibility of
those nukes.That was the most important thing.
We knew that if there was a too heavy-handed
crackdown there would be a backlash, and we
didn’t want an Islamic backlash.That is what is
happening right now.”
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ramana wrote:Thanks.

UCV had this show on last night.

Envisioning a Different US relationship with Afghanistan, Pakistan and India

Dr Cynthia Mahmood talks about the need to brag in tribal culture.Recall Gilani's lies about mtg with MMS.
See the sidebar for the rest of the series.
There are three parts to it
http://www.uctv.tv/search-details.aspx?showID=18186

There is a famous guy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Juergensmeyer
He has written about India. He is working on revolution inside India for the last 30-40 years
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Dr Cynthia Mahmood of Notre Dame says

Cynthia Mahmood and Political Violence


Dated May 2009 ie almost a year ago.
About six minutes in, Cynthia discusses the present case of Pakistan, and expounds further in a press release accompanying the video, U.S. must help calm nuclear-armed Pakistan.

“Right now, we’re finally seeing that the heartland of the region’s instability, in fact, is in Pakistan, and that the problem President Obama is having to deal with is not just what to do about Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, but what to do about the very serious and urgent danger that a nuclear-armed nation is on the verge of either collapse or takeover by radical Islamists.”

Obama spoke about Pakistan’s instability and its nuclear arms at his press conference this week. The latest news is that the US is viewing Pakistan as a distinct problem from Afghanistan even as heavy fighting with the Taliban is going on inside Pakistan.
She is a key to understand the US Af-Pak strategy.
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I recall reading her articles and books on the Khalistan insurgency analyzing the psyche of Khalistani extremists 20+ years ago.
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Paul wrote:I recall reading her articles and books on the Khalistan insurgency analyzing the psyche of Khalistani extremists 20+ years ago.
Yes same one. She is into Af-Pak now. She brings the anthropology focus on to political problems.

Shades of Col Creighton saab!
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Another delusional article in Nation about Unkil & Bharat conspiring aganist porkies in Afghanistan

The devil in IndoUS Afghan Policy
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ramana wrote:Dr Cynthia Mahmood of Notre Dame says

Cynthia Mahmood and Political Violence

She is a key to understand the US Af-Pak strategy.
Cynthia Mahmood is she another of half bred porkie like DCH?
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