Re: Mangalyaan : ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission
Posted: 07 Dec 2013 22:14
NASA eyes can be downloaded that gives MOM's position
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superb artilce.Abhaey wrote:My latest article may be of interest to you:
Mars is a 'Red' Herring: Why India's Space Programme Is a Global Role Model
Can you please give the link- am having trouble finding it through Google!( eg when I type NASA MOM/Mangalyaan tracking, old info comes up).prasannasimha wrote:NASA eyes can be downloaded that gives MOM's position
I think he means thisVaroon Shekhar wrote:Can you please give the link- am having trouble finding it through Google!( eg when I type NASA MOM/Mangalyaan tracking, old info comes up).prasannasimha wrote:NASA eyes can be downloaded that gives MOM's position
New Delhi: Indian companies that built most of the parts for the country's recently launched Mars mission are using their low-cost, high-tech expertise in frugal space engineering to compete for global aerospace, defence and nuclear contracts worth billions.
Mangalyaan spacecraft was launched last month and then catapulted from Earth orbit on December 1, clearing an important hurdle on its 420 million mile journey to Mars and putting it on course to be the first Asian mission to reach the red planet.
The venture has a price tag of just Rs. 450 crore, roughly one-tenth the cost of Maven, NASA's latest Mars mission. Two-thirds of the parts for the Indian probe and rocket were made by domestic firms like Larsen & Toubro, the country's largest engineering firm, Godrej & Boyce, and state plane-maker Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd.
While such companies have a long way to go before they can attract big business in the commercial space sector, years of work on home-grown space projects are helping them carve out a niche as suppliers of precision parts for related sectors like defence, aeronautics and nuclear energy.
Those firms with proven space know-how will find themselves with the advantage as India, the world's biggest arms importer, shells out $100 billion over a decade to modernise its military with the country favouring local sources.
India in June strengthened a defence policy stipulating that local firms must be considered first for contracts and foreign companies winning contracts worth more than Rs. 300 crore must "offset" at least 30 per cent of the deal's value in India.
"We think over the next two to three years we will be able to convert this into a profit centre," said S. M. Vaidya, the business head of Godrej's aerospace division, which made the rocket's engine and fuel-powered thrusters for the Indian Mars probe.
Thanks to the space work, the company's engineers now know how to handle the specific metal alloys and the high-precision welding needed for aircraft and missiles as well as rockets, Vaidya added.
Godrej has worked with India's space agency for almost three decades and in recent years started making engine parts for aircraft makers Boeing Co, the Airbus unit of EADS and Israel's state-owned Rafael Advanced Defence Systems Ltd. It is in talks with Boeing to make parts for aircraft frames.
Home-grown, go it alone
India launched its domestic space program 50 years ago and had to develop its own rocket technology after Western powers levied sanctions in response to a 1974 nuclear weapons test, resulting in a "go it alone" development mentality.
The Indian Space Research Organisation, or ISRO, has worked to keep import costs low by designing most of the parts for its programme that are then outsourced to the domestic private sector.
ISRO must still import some metal alloys used in the space programme that it then gives to its contractors and Indian companies also must buy some of the machinery needed to make the parts from Europe and Japan.
India's heavy reliance on domestic companies for its space programme allows it to tap homegrown technicians and engineers who earn half as much as those in the West. Starting salaries for aerospace engineers in India are at most $2,000 per month, according to Indian recruitment consultancy TeamLease. The same role in the United States brings in about $5,300 on average, according to the National Association of Colleges and Employers.
"The commercial value of the business with ISRO is not high, it is the spin-offs that are valuable," said M. V. Kotwal, president of the heavy engineering division at Larsen & Toubro, which has made $5.7 million in parts for ISRO in recent years.
L&T has also supplied $240 million worth of parts so far to ITER, an inter-governmental science experiment that is building a thermonuclear reactor in southern France.
Godrej earlier this year won a deal to build a frame for the world's largest optical telescope in collaboration with University of California, the California Institute of Technology, and the Association of Canadian Universities for Research in Astronomy.
Walchand Nagar Industries, a Pune-headquartered company that made Rs. 10 crore worth of parts for India's Mars rocket, said the project helped it win contracts worth double that amount for a state-run nuclear plant in Gujarat.
Copyright: Thomson Reuters 2013
Agreed this is not very intuitive. You have to click on MOM and right click and use measure distance and click on earth.Varoon Shekhar wrote:Thanks, I downloaded the software. The graphics are nice, but it is very difficult to find the distance of MOM at any one time. It should be very easy, as 1, 2, 3, for the layman, but it is not. By clicking on the MOM image, that itself should tell you the distance, or failing that, an easy second click or something. Still cannot find the distance!
As of yesterday from the NASA site, it was over 1.6 million miles( Added:2.9 million miles now, from ISRO's facebook page) away from earth, and counting of course.Moving away at over 7000 miles per hour. That has to be one of the most user-unfriendly softwares I have ever seen!vdutta wrote:So how far is MoM from Dharti Maa?
I downloaded that software but it keeps on crashing on my computer
From what i read it does ~32 km/sec. So 3600x32x24= 2,764,800 km/ day.So how far is MoM from Dharti Maa?
ThanksSSSalvi wrote:^^^
BRF posting editor for members does not allow posting from your computer. ( May be that is - correctly - a privilege for site administrator ).
Thanks for the info.Varoon Shekhar wrote:As of yesterday from the NASA site, it was over 1.6 million miles( Added:2.9 million miles now, from ISRO's facebook page) away from earth, and counting of course.Moving away at over 7000 miles per hour. That has to be one of the most user-unfriendly softwares I have ever seen!vdutta wrote:So how far is MoM from Dharti Maa?
I downloaded that software but it keeps on crashing on my computer
Facebook is very informal. If you check the news and press release on their site it is horrible. Updates are too few and far between.prasannasimha wrote: First TCM is complete, I wish ISRO was more proactive in spreading out information.
They are having a very active facebook page and give nearly 'real time' information during events wrt MOM.They inform us when the spacecraft is rotated to fire the thrusters and when the TCM was done etc etc.
You can.Is it possible to post an image directly from ones computer instead of uploading it on some site ?
In the case of MOM there is no booster stage following it to Mars, as MOM did TMI all by itself using its built in LAM. The 4th stage of PSLV was left in Earth orbit.prasannasimha wrote:One thing about TCM's is that they can intentionally be planned so that the secondary stages which are now free coasting do not enter into the sphere of influence of the targeted body.
As I understand it, MOM had multiple orbit raising maneuvers _because_ it did not have a booster to power it, and not the other way round. If MOM had a more powerful booster (like MAVEN's Centaur), orbit raising maneuvers would have been not needed.prasannasimha wrote:Yes in the case of MOM it could not take that path because of the multiple orbit raising maneuvers independent of the 4th stage which precludes that happening .
Not yet decayed.prasannasimha wrote:Yes in the case of MOM it could not take that path because of the multiple orbit raising maneuvers independent of the 4th stage which precludes that happening.The PSLV debris should be decaying or burnt up by now. Anyone knows the NORAD ID of the PSLV C25 Debris ?