Re: Assembly Elections - 2022 & 2023
Posted: 02 Mar 2023 09:24
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Tripura is getting dicey. The Motha party folks may become the king makers.KL Dubey wrote:OK, results are coming out.. seems like clean NDA sweep in TR and NL.
Thanks for Showing up Dilbu saar !Dilbu wrote:BJP will lose onlee![]()
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MH news channels are showing a massive lead of 6500 votes for the Kasba INC candidate. Things do not look good at all for the BJP in the 2024 assembly elections. Just 3 rounds left for counting.KL Dubey wrote:MH trends...chinchwad BJP candidate is leading comfortably now. Kasba peth close contest <1000 vote margin.
Agreed, they dont... but if BhaJaPa is not able to retain a resolutely Hindu majority seat it was winning for the past 35 years in Pune, and barely scraping past in Chinchawad (where any other BJP candidate other than deceased MLA Laxman Jagtap's wife would have badly lost to NCP's Nana Kate), things definitely do not bode well for them. Residents (before candidature was announced) were pretty sure it would be a cake-walk for saffron.KL Dubey wrote:Bypolls do not relate to full elections.
That is a huge danger, I think this played a part in 2004 elections also, when you assume it is safe and do not bother the stand in line and vote. The opponent benefits.sajo wrote:Agreed, they dont... but if BhaJaPa is not able to retain a resolutely Hindu majority seat it was winning for the past 35 years in Pune, and barely scraping past in Chinchawad (where any other BJP candidate other than deceased MLA Laxman Jagtap's wife would have badly lost to NCP's Nana Kate), things definitely do not bode well for them. Residents (before candidature was announced) were pretty sure it would be a cake-walk for saffron.KL Dubey wrote:Bypolls do not relate to full elections.
Sitting MP Girish Bapat's absence could be a factor, he was able to pull a large number of Brahmin votes, so could the deceased MLA Mukta Tilak.
Jinx worked! It is 33/60 now for BJP. The Tripura Motha fellows also will have to now behave themselves, if they want to join BJP government. Watched the Malayalam commie channel Kairali news. They have stopped election analysis, and is now showing news of district wise commie events (like route marches etc.)Dilbu wrote:Last minute push for Tripura.
Looks like Shri. Pappu Ghandi also saw the writing on the wall. He has not campaigned much in North Eastern states, especially Tripura. He had plans for another West to East Jodo yatra, but by then elections are all over.williams wrote:Congi + Commie alliance failed. So the biggest loser is Congi. Bharat Jado had no impact in NE
Intersting that on rNDTV the rhonan dhona about how in NE beef eating is not an issue by the usual suspectsKati wrote:Overall NE region of Tripura-Nagaland-Meghalaya looks quite positive for BJP.
Interestingly, in christian dominated Meghalaya and Nagaland BJP has expanded its footprint considerably.
NaMo's development work, and solving most of the insurgency related violence have moved a large chunk of people.
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For me the best part is the humiliation given to the commies. The CPI(M) shamelessly joined hands with INC to fight BJP. In states like KL, these two are supposed to be rival parties each giving grandoise statements on 'secularism'. The commies of KL till around 10:00Hrs today even dreamt of forming a government in TripuraKL Dubey wrote:However, he also dropped the Commie+Congi vote from 45% last time to 33%. Precipitous drop for the Commies from 43% last time to barely 25%, whereas Congis actually increased from 2% to 8% (likely the commie vote transfer in some seats, not any sign of Congi organization revival).
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Congis were just along for the ride and have little impact. They got 3 seats, but I fully expect these MLAs to defect to other parties immediately or in a few months.
So BJP lost Kasba seat in Pune while won one in PCMC. Pune voters have shown a lot of maturity in rejecting pervert strategy if BJP whereby they look at Pune only as a vote gathering slave town. Votes and taxes from Pune. Schemes and ravdi elsewhere. 1/n
CA Shailendra Marathe
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The Kasba BJP candidate's main achievement was that he increased corporation's revenue. How can this be an achievement when no improvement has been delivered on civic services front? This is like advertising, look, I am here to loot you and give nothing in return. 2/n
CA Shailendra Marathe
@Shail_CFO
Unfortunately all Pune BJP netas are like this. Corporators, MLAs, MPs, Guardian Minister. They have no spine to stand up to state and national leaders on behalf of the city. Suggest they move to Nagpur and fight election from there next time. 3/n
CA Shailendra Marathe
@Shail_CFO
Hopefully this will repeat in the corporation and state elections. Though not too hopeful. Lots of BJP voters have hostage / TINA mentality. I know opposition is worse but how will you incentivise BJP to deliver to their votebase and not to those who don't vote BJP? 4/n
CA Shailendra Marathe
@Shail_CFO
This TINA is for losers. There were messages on social media creating xyz will happen if BJP is not elected in Kasba. Only losers think like this. A political party is replaceable. Alternative will come if you demand. Hopes rise. n/n
Rafiz
@Abuinsaan
@Shail_CFO
I agree to some extend, BJP corporators in Pune are of no use.
@SidShirole
will never reply to a message. Tilekar of Kondhwa only wants money & gives 2 hoots to the Sangh Karyakarta.....Jawdekar is "abba-jabba".....they lack the spine to stand up for their workers...
Rajendra Shah
@Rajendra195401
@Shail_CFO
Today common punekar celebrate loss of
@Dev_Fadnavis
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Ignoring pune has been a core strategy... No development and retro property tax post pendamic has affected lot of PPL ..
saroj indian
@Shail_CFO
Any outsider when visit Pune the first impression is people residing are not proud of their city. Haphazard planning, traffic nightmare, poor public transport, airport, banners, encroachment. Those cantonments in city are face savers.
There are no elections scheduled in MH until the LS general election in Apr/May 2024. No point trying to extrapolate the results of this small bypoll to a real election where the entire top rung of the BJP will be campaigning.vijayk wrote:Maharastra is a big concern.
1. Media strategy failing?
2. Marathi media has become toxic especially after the MVA Govt.
3. CON+NCP+SS(Thackrey) -> Too much ot handle?
4. Pune neglected? Looks like upper castes have run away ...
Marathi media is completely sold out to Pawarful people and their agents (Raut). Has been for a while now. There isn't even a pretense of being neutral.vijayk wrote:Maharastra is a big concern.
1. Media strategy failing?
2. Marathi media has become toxic especially after the MVA Govt.
As a long time resident, I grudgingly agree. Pune always had a Hindu Nationalist tilt right from the pre-Independence era, and at one point we had all 7 MLAs, the PMC and the MP all from BJP. Did that translate into any improvement on the ground ? Nope! Not at all. Some improvements were occasionally seen in the eastern parts where Pawarful proxies were building up townships, but west Pune is just plain ignored. Even during Peak covid the common folks were helped by volunteers and RSS but the visible BJP faces had all but disappeared. The city is a heap of dirt, debris, mismanagement and just plain abandonment, and no, these are not growth pangs. A trip to Kochi made me realise how accepted-as-a-fact-of-life we had taken all the dirt and civic mismanagement here.vijayk wrote:https://twitter.com/Shail_CFO/status/16 ... 1888344066
Can anyone from Pune comment?
So BJP lost Kasba seat in Pune while won one in PCMC. Pune voters have shown a lot of maturity in rejecting pervert strategy if BJP whereby they look at Pune only as a vote gathering slave town. Votes and taxes from Pune. Schemes and ravdi elsewhere. 1/n
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Any outsider when visit Pune the first impression is people residing are not proud of their city. Haphazard planning, traffic nightmare, poor public transport, airport, banners, encroachment. Those cantonments in city are face savers.
I agree there are gloom and doom scenarios (which is fine to an extent till it becomes a drone/spam), but I don't see any "triumphalism" here.Aditya_V wrote:When its comes to Elections its absolute Triumphilism vs total gloom and doom scenarios, we must find a middle ground somewhere here.
Good post, I will reply later in the "road to 2024" thread. Hope the participants continue there.fanne wrote:MH my echo chamber looks easy for BJP. I hope the BMC election happens soon and gives us the information on which way wind is blowing. It is wrong to be drunk on your own Kool aid (or assumption). It is a big state with potential for BJP and allies to be at 40+ in LS. It would be very bad to be rudely surprised here.
By poll wins by ruling government has never been a good yard stick to measure its popularity. On many occasions the ruling party has won bypolls just a year before general assembly elections and lost the GAE.
However, ruling party losing bypolls is not a good sign and may show underlying issues. Jharkhand govt is unpopular and will lose the next LS poll, as Ramgadh by election result shows. Does losing this Pune seat show the same for BJP combine in MH? To dismiss this will be short sighted. The take away is not that BJP will lose only, but what is going on and from here what can be done to make sure results of Maha are as per expectation.
NEW DELHI: The ministry of external affairs (MEA) called in the Swiss ambassador and raised the issue of "unfounded and malicious" anti-India posters in front of the United Nations office in Geneva, official sources said. In his response, the ambassador said that he would convey India's concerns to Berne with all the seriousness it deserves.
The posters in Geneva are part of space provided to all, but in no way endorses the claims, nor reflects the position of the Swiss government, he said, according to Indian government sources.
Several posters alleging harassment of minorities and women were put up at a square outside the UN building in Geneva coinciding with a session of the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC).
Shocking & This is the projection of India ,in Geneva https://t.co/7m3UdemPaR
— Dr. Sunita Yadav, M.S. (@DrSunitaYOnco) 1677996082000
"The embassy has conveyed India's concerns to Berne with all the seriousness it deserves," Ralf Heckner said in a brief statement.
It is learnt that similar posters were put up in the past as well during sessions of the UNHRC. A purported video of the posters in front of the UN building was also circulating on social media.
FATF flags Gandhi family corruption: I&B Minister Anurag Thakur
While FATF mentions no names, calling the accused ‘Mr A,’ Information & Broadcasting Minister Anurag Thakur cited the report to say it was a matter of “great shame” that the “story of Gandhi family’s corruption” is part of the FATF report.
Incidentally, the ED had alleged that Kapoor purchased a painting from Congress leader Priyanka Gandhi.
The report neither names Rana Kapoor, nor Gandhi, nor Yes Bank, but its details match the Kapoor case.
“Mr. A purchased mediocre art from politicians and in turn paid huge kickbacks through banking channels, projecting them as genuine pieces of art,” the report says. “In one such incident, Mr. A purchased a piece of art from the close relative of a member of the ruling political party at that time for USD 264 000. However, the investigation revealed that this was an over-valuation, and that that the price paid was not for art, but rather was a bribe to influence the awarding of the prestigious Indian award ‘Padma Bhushan’ for himself. The trial is ongoing and Mr. A has been in judicial custody since March 2020,” the report says.
Kapoor was arrested by ED in March 2020. He also told the ED, the agency claimed, that he was told by the then Petroleum Minister Murli Deora that the refusal to buy the M F Husain painting will not only prevent him from building a relationship with the Gandhi family but also prevent him from getting the Padma Bhushan.
Kapoor’s lawyer was not available for comment.
“A money laundering investigation revealed that Mr. A used his influence to sanction the loan to a loss incurring entity, Company B. Investigations further revealed that Company B diverted the loan to 79 shell companies including Company C, which was controlled and owned by Mr. A and his daughters. Company C received USD 79 million and used part of the funds to purchase assets including art from famous painters and influential people. Mr. A invested a significant amount of proceeds in buying art of famous artists. Investigations revealed that he had purchased around 44 paintings,” the report added.
Indeed, the ED has alleged that Rana Kapoor and Dewan Housing Finance Limited (DHFL) promoters Kapil and Dheeraj Wadhawan had siphoned off funds worth Rs 5,050 crore through suspicious transactions using a host of shell companies. The agency had also made a mention of purchase of 44 paintings by Rana Kapoor.
In March 2020, Congress leader Abhishek Manu Singhvi had said that in 2010, an M.F. Hussain painting (which is a portrait) of Rajiv Gandhi was sold to Rana Kapoor for a sum of Rs 2 crore.
“The entire amount was received in cheque and was fully disclosed in Income Tax return of 2010 by Smt. Priyanka Gandhi Vadra. Incidentally, only the other week, a painting of M.F. Hussain has been sold by ED and has fetched a price of Rs 13.44 CR. So stop diverting Mr. PM & FM, answer how did the loan book of Yes Bank rise by 2 lakh crore and was Govt. sleeping or complicit?” Singhvi had then said.