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The Putrid Fumes from Pastor Pratap Bhanu Mehta’s Pulpit that Escalate Hijab Separatism
Dissecting Pratap Bhanu Mehta's biased article in the Indian Express on the Hijab row.
Even more barefacedly, Pastor Pratap writes,
In India’s particular context, the progressives fell into the trap of being seen to oppose or defend the hijab, where the truth is that it is presumptuous to do either. Neither is necessary. They also fell into the trap of another equivocation. The hijab is not a moment where liberty or equality are being tested.
George Orwell perhaps provides the best counterpunch to such sleights of hand in his classic, Politics and the English Language.
The words democracy, socialism, freedom, patriotic, realistic, justice, have each of them several different meanings which cannot be reconciled with one another. In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of régime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using that word if it were tied down to any one meaning. WORDS OF THIS KIND ARE OFTEN USED IN A CONSCIOUSLY DISHONEST WAY. THAT IS, THE PERSON WHO USES THEM HAS HIS OWN PRIVATE DEFINITION, BUT ALLOWS HIS HEARER TO THINK HE MEANS SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT… OTHER WORDS USED IN VARIABLE MEANINGS, IN MOST CASES MORE OR LESS DISHONESTLY, ARE: CLASS, TOTALITARIAN, SCIENCE, PROGRESSIVE, REACTIONARY, BOURGEOIS, EQUALITY.
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Pastor Pratap does precisely this when he writes, incredibly, that:
The hijab is not a moment where liberty or equality are being tested. IT IS COMING WHEN THERE IS AN ATTEMPT TO VISIBLY ERASE MUSLIMS FROM INDIA’S PUBLIC CULTURE. It is also to give progressives that last bit of pretext to be comfortable with the BJP, as if the BJP was carrying out the completion of a liberal project that the Congress had no courage of conviction to pursue… The BJP has succeeded in its aims of constructing the Muslim as a figure of threat.
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Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 00:12
by vijayk
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The soft state that is India
PS: Pieter Friedrich is an ISI asset
This has to be treated as a physical threat to minister or his family. this guy has to be locked up for 7 years
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 02:19
by Vayutuvan
vijayk wrote:
News Arena@NewsArenaIndia ·
Kamal Haasan’s MNM candidate polled “0” votes in Ward No.1 in Sivagangai town.
#TNLocalBodyResults
How?
Invalid vote. In the olden days, one would have had to fold vertically so that the undried ink from the stamp gets imprinted on the symbol. If one folds it horizontally then the ink gets onto another symbol's box as well. But how somebody can do this in EVM? One has to wonder.
The Enforcement Directorate on Wednesday (23 February) arrested Maharashtra minister and NCP leader Nawab Malik in a money laundering probe linked to the activities of the Mumbai underworld.
NCP leader and Maharashtra minister Nawab Malik was not cooperating in the questioning, sources were quoted by news agency ANI as saying.
The 62-year-old NCP leader was taken into custody after he was questioned for about five hours at the ED office in south Mumbai's Ballard Estate area since around 8 am.
His statement was recorded under the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA) and he was arrested under the same provisions as he was evasive in his replies.
The ED's move comes after the registration of a new case and raids conducted by it on 15 February in Mumbai in connection with the operations of the underworld, linked alleged illegal property deals and hawala transactions.
The searches were conducted at 10 locations, including premises linked to 1993 Mumbai blasts mastermind and fugitive gangster Dawood Ibrahim's late sister Haseena Parkar, brother Iqbal Kaskar and Salim Qureshi alias Salim Fruit, brother-in-law of gangster Chhota Shakeel.
Kaskar, who was already in jail, has been arrested by the agency last week. It also questioned Parkar's son.
Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister Ajit Pawar, ministers Chhagan Bhujbal, Hasan Mushrif and Rajesh Tope were present at Sharad Pawar's residence.
MUMBAI: Some NCP ministers in Maharashtra met at the residence of party president Sharad Pawar here on Wednesday evening to discuss the situation arising out of the arrest of their cabinet and party colleague Nawab Malik by the ED in connection with a money laundering case.
Maharashtra Deputy Chief Minister Ajit Pawar, ministers Chhagan Bhujbal, Hasan Mushrif and Rajesh Tope were present at Sharad Pawar's residence 'Silver Oak' in South Mumbai for the meeting, party sources said.
“The meeting was called to discuss the current situation that has arisen post Malik's arrest and the party's future course of action,” the sources said.
They said Malik's portfolios could be shared with his party colleagues in the cabinet in case he resigns.
Malik, a senior NCP leader, holds the skill development portfolio besides the minority affairs department in the Uddhav Thackeray-led Maha Vikas Aghadi (MVA) government.
The NCP president is likely to meet chief minister Uddhav Thackeray at the latter's official residence 'Varsha' in south Mumbai later in the evening in the wake of the sudden development.
Meanwhile, senior Congress leaders and MVA Ministers Balasaheb Thorat and Ashok Chavan called on Sharad Pawar and discussed the fallout of Malik's arrest.
Another Congress minister Sunil Kedar also joined the meeting.
The NCP and the Congress are constituents of the Shiv Sena-led MVA government.
Criticism continued to pour in from NCP leaders over Malik's arrest.
Maharashtra NCP president and minister Jayant Patil said the state never saw such political vendetta in the past and claimed efforts were being made to pull down the MVA government.
Speaking during the party's on-going mass outreach programme in Solapur in western Maharashtra, Patil said Malik has been arrested "without any reason".
"People are seeing such politics right now, but they will express their opinion at the right time," Patil said.
Without naming anyone, the NCP leader alleged “some people” want to topple the MVA government “anyhow”.
"Arrests are being made for no reason with the help of central agencies. This is not right," Patil added.
The state water resources minister alleged he, too, was pressurised to join the BJP in 2019, but he resisted pressures and didn't leave the NCP.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 10:50
by chetak
game on
the first trial balloon is up but so are the terms and conditions
bait and switch onion merchants will eat this guy alive.
The Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) on Tuesday said the larger Opposition would be open to fielding Nitish Kumar as its candidate for the President’s election later this year, provided the Bihar Chief Minister sever ties with the BJP.
NCP spokesperson Nawab Malik today said, “There cannot be a discussion on the issue of Nitish Kumar being the Presidential candidate till the time he breaks ties with the BJP. First, he should end his alliance with the BJP. Only then, a thought can be given to the matter of his candidature and leaders of all Opposition parties can sit together and consider thus.”
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 11:52
by Manish_Sharma
BJP has ruled UP for 5 years
Journalists roaming on ground in UP demanding to know why streets of UP are not paved with gold.
Liberals have ruled Bengal for 70 years.
Not one journalist in Bengal dared to ask what is the economic situation there.
@Chetak - Nitish will be idiot to accept. But then he also do not have much hope for another term. Whatever good name as "Vikas Babu" he got is long gone and only the caste/vote bank combination of BJP and JDU and fear of Lalu's goondaraj is keeping him in power. But as a big time ego fellow he may not be seeing the reality.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 17:02
by Cyrano
KA HC bench hearing : Advocate Kamat for the petitioners is trying to be too clever by half. Started by buttering the judges "you have shown lot of patience..." judge: "and lot of tolerance as well". Touché ! Took a risky line by saying in this case even the ERP need not be established. Seems to be testing the bench's patience even intelligence by jumping across arguments. Bench giving him a long rope asking him "you have come before the bench saying your right has been infringed, so you have to establish your right to wear hijab in the class room" and he is tying himself into knots.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 17:08
by chetak
Yagnasri wrote:@Chetak - Nitish will be idiot to accept. But then he also do not have much hope for another term. Whatever good name as "Vikas Babu" he got is long gone and only the caste/vote bank combination of BJP and JDU and fear of Lalu's goondaraj is keeping him in power. But as a big time ego fellow he may not be seeing the reality.
Yagnasri garu,
hope he accepts and also crashes and burns going down.
he was never in the big leagues but some covert BJP support caused him to show his entitled hand at a most inauspicious moment.
since then, like the fatted calf in the parable of the prodigal son, he has been prepared for just such a moment. That prodigal son returned but this opportunistic charlatan will depart, politically speaking, of course.........
does anyone remember the h@l@led and jh@tk@ed (bn, who, like the rash icarus, also flew too close to the $un.........
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 18:18
by Yagnasri
Yes. He need to go out or removed. As long as he is around we will not grow in Bihar. On the other hand Bihar BJP is reputed to be an upper caste gang. We do need to manage that well and win the state on our own with MY formule of Lalu +INC gang. Let us not forget Bihar has huge % of momo voters and they hold sway in many assembly seats.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 24 Feb 2022 20:15
by chetak
this is an open instigation to vi0len(e and h@r@$$ment
this is what the ex India ch@ir of @mene$ty is advocating
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 01:02
by GShankar
This is a constant drawback of dharmics.
Commis/BIFers/Urban naxals/Cryptos have agency to academic and institutional patronage. They are able to blatantly be vocal against us and our interests.
Dharmics so far are not able to get to those stages to piss on them. We need to create new institutions and funded and people at the level of Rajiv Malhotra, Susu Swamy need to be convinced to piss outside the tent. The two gents are just examples (I know many of you here love these two ). May be there are others who could do this better. Already saw a post about of Prof. RV's tweet. He would also fit.
Best way probably is to arm twist the indology/corning funders(mr. narayana!! narayana!! and mr. bye bye) to cancel those funding and contribute to institutions like nalanda and create more. And try best to thwart these indian fundings to foreign institutions in future.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 03:26
by sanjaykumar
Nothing will change without patronage.
Academia runs on funding- of chairs, grants, travel and access. If you pretend to be a Chinese scholar but are denied a visa for your field research ( however timid I might add), it’s the end of your career.
Fair play and equity are not necessarily the norm. This is true in the hard sciences, for career prospects. Much more so in the incestuous grantsmanship and citation loops in a discipline such as the eminent historian Audrey Truschke’s.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 03:35
by Kaivalya
GShankar wrote:This is a constant drawback of dharmics.
Commis/BIFers/Urban naxals/Cryptos have agency to academic and institutional patronage. They are able to blatantly be vocal against us and our interests.
Dharmics so far are not able to get to those stages to piss on them. We need to create new institutions and funded and people at the level of Rajiv Malhotra, Susu Swamy need to be convinced to piss outside the tent. The two gents are just examples (I know many of you here love these two ). May be there are others who could do this better. Already saw a post about of Prof. RV's tweet. He would also fit.
Best way probably is to arm twist the indology/corning funders(mr. narayana!! narayana!! and mr. bye bye) to cancel those funding and contribute to institutions like nalanda and create more. And try best to thwart these indian fundings to foreign institutions in future.
+1 Absolutely. One of the reasons some of these gents piss inside the tent is because they feel like they have no backing (i.e capital) . If we can stop some amount of temple looting, we can channel that into backing for dharmics. Hopefully one of the newer leaders like yogiji or himanta biswas sarmaji will create and test a solution that can be scaled up. Otherwise we end up boiling the ocean
Canceling existing arrangements might not be easy as it would have involved some sort of quid pro quo
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 10:18
by GShankar
Kaivalya wrote:
Canceling existing arrangements might not be easy as it would have involved some sort of quid pro quo
Agreed. Though tend to think - a simple rule like - "Any contributions to foreign NGO's / Academia / similar" would be taxed 200% and the money will be routed to education ministry or pm fund or something specific for dharmic cause.
Of course the govt. need to shed all the log kya kahenge syndrome.
1. BJP has an average of 2.2% vote across 12 general elections post 91. In 2011 local body, it's vote share was 1.6%. Eight months back in an ADMK alliance it fetched 2.6%. A base that didn't grow for 30 years has more than doubled.
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2. Historically, non-ruling parties in TN have converted only 60-70% of their original strength in local body as ruling party amplifies its share by controlling state EC & voter hesitation to elect opp parties. BJP's 5.6% here is equivalent to a 8-10% share in a general election.
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3. 3rd largest party tag
In 50 years of bipolar polity in TN, parties struggled to touch 8%. DMDK did in 06-09 but couldn't sustain. BJP was 8th vote share wise in 19, 6th in 21. To bump itself to 3rd now adds credibility to open up possibility of a three-way contest in future.
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4. Short duration
BJP decided to contest alone 20 days before election. Local body is an election of grassroots where 1000s of candidates are needed. At such short notice to extract 5.6% for a party averaging 2.3% over 3 decades shows there is an organic base out there to groom.
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5. Contested average
20 days to election meant BJP could contest only 43% seats. A national party with resources, this should only go up next time. BJP scored a contested average of 12%. Other 57% seats too would have pro-BJP voters, an opportunity to increase vote % in 24-26.
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6. Better bargain in 2024
BJP's 2% average over 30 years meant ADMK hard bargained to give it 5 seats in 19 & paltry 20 in 21. Increasing its vote share to 5.6%, BJP can drive a far better negotiation in 2024. Opens up possibility of contesting 10+ seats in a broader NDA for 24.
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7. Crossing NTK
BJP's 5.6% crossing NTK here is notable. NTK grew from 1% in 16 to 6.6% in 21. It's vote is 1/4th of all votes under 35 years & had potential to grow beyond 10% as 3rd pole. It was crucial for BJP to halt it & occupy up that space with a young leader in charge.
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8. Independents vote share
Ind candidates score 15-18% share in local body historically. In parliament elections, this goes below 3% on average. 2024 would be a 2 way polarization, where this 15-18% will get concentrated in one of the two major alliances, driving up vote share.
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9. 2024 is BJP's pitch
Local bodies are dominated by local strongmen & voter fear of incurring cost of electing non-ruling party. In 24 central issue is Modi's candidature. BJP's track record across states show it historically amplifies its vote from local/assembly to Lok Sabha.
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10. Reward for risk
8 months back, TN BJP changed direction for the first time in 3 decades, appointing a 37 year old ex IPS officer to state president. From dormancy of decades, Annamalai's leadership in 8 months has broken the 2% jinx of the party, vindicating party's choice.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 20:54
by GShankar
vijayk wrote:
10. Reward for risk
8 months back, TN BJP changed direction for the first time in 3 decades, appointing a 37 year old ex IPS officer to state president. From dormancy of decades, Annamalai's leadership in 8 months has broken the 2% jinx of the party, vindicating party's choice.
You see, swamy39 has been saying this for years. But there is a problem with being ahead of times and not being part of majority opinion. Then getting frustrated and publicly airing contrary opinions only complicates matters.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 21:31
by vijayk
At least BJP listens even though they are late some times. Unfortunately some times people like Ms. Scindia in Rajasthan goes on a self destructive spree. They have to clean up Rajasthan, Delhi UKand, Jharkand, AP and WB too for 2024 and beyond
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 25 Feb 2022 21:36
by GShankar
vijayk wrote:At least BJP listens even though they are late some times. Unfortunately some times people like Ms. Scindia in Rajasthan goes on a self destructive spree. They have to clean up Rajasthan, Delhi UKand, Jharkand, AP and WB too for 2024 and beyond
Yeah, lot more work remains to be done.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 26 Feb 2022 17:36
by chetak
meanwhile, the $hav $ena bumbles on, from disaster to disaster
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 26 Feb 2022 18:16
by Zynda
It been satisfying to read on Twitter the amount of vitriol & melt down Western folks are having over India & UAE's abstain stance. At least one woman who is a JNU alum, is hoping that Western order "kicks" India down & comes hard...surprisingly most of them don't question China's stance...
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 26 Feb 2022 18:40
by chetak
x posted from the ukraine thread
in sharp contrast to what the Modi govt is doing for the so called "stranded" Indians who refused to heed the many directives issued by the GoI to leave ukraine
via opindia
Screengrab of the travel advisory by US embassy in Ukraine
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 26 Feb 2022 19:32
by chetak
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 26 Feb 2022 19:37
by GShankar
Question to esteemed maulaners:
Did china vote ahead of India? If so, does anyone think if china said No instead of abstain, we might have done the same?
TIA
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 26 Feb 2022 19:39
by Pratyush
Indian vote was independent of any other considerations.
The Promiscuity of Anti-Caste Activism - Dr. Prakash Shah
Hear our conversation with Dr. Prakash Shah, Reader in Culture and Law at Queen Mary, University of London and editor of the seminal book "Western Foundations of the Caste System." We dig into how "caste" came to define India and how it's now being used to define its global diaspora.
Great conversation and insights by Dr. Prakash Shah. He is spot on at the end that all these "anti-caste" activities will be tied back to India. Equality Labs has been open about it when they said they want “caste” based discrimination to keep getting associated with India so that there can be ripple effects in India (again, especially the Tech sector) as well. This will also pave way for affirmative action (like reservation) in India in the private sector that has been so far untouched.
0:00 - Intro
5:34 - Understanding conceptual promiscuity around caste
13:18 - Lack of knowledge around "caste"
The Role of the British (21:50)
The Role of the Missionaries (30:54)
37:52 The Construct of "caste"
(45:12) Mass appeal of flawed narrative
(48:10) Is Caste sanctioned by religion
50:50 “Caste” and Indian Law
(56:31) Understanding your book
(58:29) What's the end game of "Caste" laws
(1:01:57) How to decolonize
Great conversation and insights by Dr. Prakash Shah. He is spot on at the end that all these "anti-caste" activities will be tied back to India. Equality Labs has been open about it when they said they want “caste” based discrimination to keep getting associated with India so that there can be ripple effects in India (again, especially the Tech sector) as well. This will also pave way for affirmative action (like reservation) in India in the private sector that has been so far untouched.
Zynda wrote:It been satisfying to read on Twitter the amount of vitriol & melt down Western folks are having over India & UAE's abstain stance. At least one woman who is a JNU alum, is hoping that Western order "kicks" India down & comes hard...surprisingly most of them don't question China's stance...
Who is this JNU person?
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 27 Feb 2022 12:56
by Zynda
Ayesha Ray @DrAyeshaRay
She seems to be harbouring particular fetish against Indian males and her twitter timeline is filled with Tweets against Indian males, Modi, Indian public support for Russia & Putin...
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 27 Feb 2022 13:14
by Deans
It is easy for people with no skin in the game, to give unsolicited gyan on how India should have voted. If the vote to their liking, then India = Bad.
We are possibly the only country which will be viewed with the same Respect, seriousness and credibility, by the heads of State of:
- Russia & Ukraine.
- Russia & US.
- Saudi and Iran
- Israel & Palestine
- NoKo & SoKo.
There must be some merit in our not always taking positions in a conflict.
Voting is about what is in our interest, not what is in Russia, Ukraine's or US interest.
Among the non permanent members of the council: Votes of Gabon, Ghana, Kenya & Albania are for sale.
We know Ireland, Norway & Mexico will vote with US/ EU.
2 of the remaining 3 abstained.
We face a greater threat to our national security than any of these countries.
We cannot properly defend ourselves without Russian weapons.
If abstaining from a vote is what it takes to secure this, so be it.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 27 Feb 2022 15:33
by Kati
RU delegation arrived in Belarus, but UK delegation didn't show up.
I was just thinking...when the dust settles on Ukraine, we will know in what position their overall scientific infrastructure is and thus gives a direction on which things will move. Regardless, we should be thinking of ways to entice highly experienced folks in certain tech areas (semi-cryo propulsion design & testing, perhaps designers from Antonov etc.) to relocate to India and help us out. They can be employed by various Indian tech private firms (L&T etc.)...we should not some of the mistakes that we did after fall of Soviet Union and lose out again.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 27 Feb 2022 19:08
by Varoon Shekhar
Zynda wrote:Ayesha Ray @DrAyeshaRay
She seems to be harbouring particular fetish against Indian males and her twitter timeline is filled with Tweets against Indian males, Modi, Indian public support for Russia & Putin...
Are any Indians( or anyone sympathetic to India) on Twitter answering her? The Indians commenting on Twitter are certainly not glorifying or even justifying the Russian actions, but they do mention that Ukraine historically has not been supportive of India. Nor have any of the Western countries when it comes to Pakistan specifically. Instead the usual made to order remarks about 'concern over tensions', "countries must talk peace", "Kashmir is a flashpoint and discussions necessary", "both countries must pull back". No explicit condemnation of Pakistani role in terror.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 28 Feb 2022 04:42
by Vayutuvan
Zynda wrote:Regardless, we should be thinking of ways to entice highly experienced folks in certain tech areas (semi-cryo propulsion design & testing, perhaps designers from Antonov etc.) to relocate to India and help us out. They can be employed by various Indian tech private firms (L&T etc.)...we should not some of the mistakes that we did after fall of Soviet Union and lose out again.
Their H1Bs and PR applications will be fast-tracked by the SDOTUS, almost certainly. Not saying we should not try. The situation is not much different from trying to get PIOs back to India from US/UK/Canada/Australia. I am also a little doubtful how much these PIOs, who are at the end of their careers, be able to contribute to Indian science/tech/defense industry. They certainly can be angel investors and mentors though.
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 28 Feb 2022 05:00
by VinodTK
Please watch from 53 minutes onwards, the welcome that awaited the Indian students returning from Ukraine,
no coverage in mainstream media.
If you are interested in the 5th phase UP elections you can watch the complete brodcast;
I follow THE MANISH THAKUR SHOW pretty detailed coverare (right leaning)
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 28 Feb 2022 15:34
by Tanaji
What’s going on with Varun Gandhi? Lately he seems to be targeting the central government on a daily basis?
Re: 2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1
Posted: 28 Feb 2022 15:49
by Pratyush
Tanaji wrote:What’s going on with Varun Gandhi? Lately he seems to be targeting the central government on a daily basis?
He wants to be a martyr. He expects that a personal retaliation from the big 2 will increase his value for the opposition.
He has not paid attention to the likes of the 2 Sinhas from Bihar. No retaliation will happen. Once UP elections are over and BJP has retained the state with comfortable margin he will have a simple choice. Fall in line or fall on his sword.