Narendra Modi vs the Dynasty: Contrasting Ideas of India

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Jun 2013 06:49

No, the media created a strawman. In order to knock it down. Nothing more.

aparikh · Post by **aparikh** » 28 Jun 2013 06:57

Singha wrote:is there any footage or photos of the "80 innovas, 25 buses and 4 boeings" that Guj govt was supposed to have sent?
I have not seen any.

surely with the national media camped in the region and in delhi it should have been able to cover, it was not a secret.

the MSM seems to have been strictly instructed to impose a blackout on that op, other than the TOI article which slipped through before the Eye of Sauron caught it.

Madhu Kishwar's blog has a couple of pictures ... One of the relief center setup by the Gujarat government and the other of the buses.
http://www.manushi.in/blog_content.php?blogid=58

Rampy · Post by **Rampy** » 28 Jun 2013 07:16

Singha wrote:is there any footage or photos of the "80 innovas, 25 buses and 4 boeings" that Guj govt was supposed to have sent?
I have not seen any.

surely with the national media camped in the region and in delhi it should have been able to cover, it was not a secret.

the MSM seems to have been strictly instructed to impose a blackout on that op, other than the TOI article which slipped through before the Eye of Sauron caught it.

Last page had posting of a youtube link of gayatri parivar where you can the busses flagged out

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jun 2013 07:34

Rampy wrote:
Singha wrote:is there any footage or photos of the "80 innovas, 25 buses and 4 boeings" that Guj govt was supposed to have sent?
I have not seen any.

surely with the national media camped in the region and in delhi it should have been able to cover, it was not a secret.

the MSM seems to have been strictly instructed to impose a blackout on that op, other than the TOI article which slipped through before the Eye of Sauron caught it.
Last page had posting of a youtube link of gayatri parivar where you can the busses flagged out

Here is probably what actually happened.............

In Defence of Rambo
The author argues Modi-led rescue efforts in Uttarakhand are not publicity gimmicks
Madhu Kishwar

When on Saturday evening, TV channels brought the news that Narendra Modi’s visit to Uttarakhand to oversee relief operations had kicked off a major political storm, I decided to go and check for myself whether this was indeed a cheap publicity gimmick as alleged by the Congress or a serious response to a tragedy.
Here’s my take, one that I know will find many disagreeing: those who call Modi a Rambo or a publicity-hungry politician have no clue what they are dealing with. Consider the following.

• Gujarat today has a fighting-fit bureaucracy because it was enabled to develop expertise, team spirit and deliver results under the most adverse circumstances.

• The Gujarat Disaster Management Authority (GDMA) has become a thoroughly professional institution capable of responding to natural or man-made disasters. It has a 24×7 monitoring system and well-publicised helpline numbers well known to Gujaratis — both in the country and abroad.

• Modi has succeeded in conveying to the citizens of Gujarat that the government is always there to serve them. That is why the first response of Gujaratis anywhere in the world is to contact the chief minister’s office if they are caught in a calamity.
Also, consider this. Modi arrived in Delhi late 17th night for a meeting with the Planning Commission on 18th when news of cloudburst and landslides was telecast on TV. He held an emergency meeting to take stock of the situation since he knew that thousands of Gujaratis are likely to be among the Chardham pilgrims. Right away, a camp office was opened at Gujarat Bhavan and the Resident Commissioner’s team in Delhi was made responsible for coordinating with Gujarati pilgrims.
Early-Mover Advantage
On the 18th morning, Modi called Dr Pranav Pandya of the All World Gayatri Parivar to provide space and infrastructure in his Shanti Kunj campus for the relief centre proposed to be set up by the Gujarat government. He chose this campus because of his close knowledge of, and rapport with, this Gandhian institution that can house and feed thousands of people at a short notice.
It has a 2,000-strong community of swayamsevaks on the campus, plus 3,000-odd students of the Dev Sanskriti University. The campus also has a well-run hospital.
On the 18th evening itself, a set of computers with internet connections, telephone lines, television sets and all other paraphernalia required for Gujarat government’s relief operation were set up. Therefore, when a team of Gujarat government IAS, IPS and IFS officers came, they could get going within minutes of reaching Shanti Kunj.
Team Gujarat had two officers from Uttarakhand — Assistant Director General of Police Bisht and Forest Service officer SC Pant — who had close knowledge of the terrain to guide both the stranded pilgrims as well as rescue teams on the safest possible routes to take. ADG Bisht went straight to Gupta Kashi from where the rescue operations are being launched.
A team of seven doctors trained in handling such emergencies, led by an orthopaedic surgeon, not only put in place an efficient first-aid service but are also attending to those severely injured.
I saw them go around to other relief camps and railway stations to attend to non-Gujaratis as well.
The mandate of Team Gujarat in Uttarakhand is: take good care of rescued pilgrims as they arrive but send them home at the earliest possible in the most comfortable manner. Don’t worry about expenditure or numbers.
Smooth Operators
As always, officers on the ground have been empowered to take onthe-spot decisions, to decide how many buses or taxis they need, how many pilgrims need to be sent by air and what kind of aircraft to order. I saw senior IAS officers working 24×7 alongside very junior staff in one single room as a close-knit team.
When Modi landed in Dehradun, Team Gujarat was already in control. Far from attacking the state government, he offered all possible help.
Upset Congress
In addition, he synergised resources, energised BJP workers to get going, not just for immediate relief but also long-term reconstruction work. All his officers were provided phone numbers of BJP functionaries of all 190 blocks in Uttarakhand and vice versa. As usual, he worked to guide and streamline the operations. There was genuine spirit of cooperation and teamwork.
The Congress party is understandably upset because its chief minister has proved a disaster, its party machinery is in disarray, Congress Sewa Dal workers are nowhere in sight, Rahul Gandhi’s Youth Brigade is clueless even in routine situations, leave alone know how to face a crisis like the Uttarakhand deluge.
That is the reality of the Uttarakhand relief operation led by Narendra Modi.
The writer is founder, Manushi, and
professor, Centre for the Study of
Developing Societies

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 28 Jun 2013 07:35

Striking clarity of thought from Modi in a 'closed door' interaction with industrialists yesterday: India Inc gets a peek into Modi's agenda

His response to the question on whether the "Gujarat model of development" could be replicated, was striking, said another CEO.

"India cannot have a 'one size fits all' solution. Even within Gujarat, there are many districts with each having its own strengths and weaknesses. We need to have tailor-made solution for each state in the country," Modi is learnt to have said.

Reckoning that poverty and unemployment can be dealt with only by pursuing growth, Modi said states must be given the flexibility to write their own labour laws.

"He said the TDP's N Chandrababu Naidu and he had earlier suggested to the Centre that the labour issue should be removed from the concurrent list. This will give states the leeway to frame labour laws given their own peculiarity. No state can afford to ignore the interest of the labour force while framing laws, Modi pointed out," said a corporate leader who asked Modi about easing labour laws.

Responding to concerns of social tensions and caste differences, Modi said India must increase opportunities so that everyone has access to them. "Tensions arise when there is scarcity; so it is best to address the supply side," he was quoted as saying.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Jun 2013 07:52

Interview: Rajnath Singh

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Jun 2013 07:58

Doing the Modi math

niran · Post by **niran** » 28 Jun 2013 08:36

Ashok Sarraff wrote:For Branalysts:

NDTV report: Did Narendra Modi, Amit Shah know of the Ishrat Jahan encounter in advance? (text and video)

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/did-n ... eststories

one whatitsname NEWS channel says something and folks here are running to save themselves from falling skies

maibaap! if Dilli ka Gaadi is through UP then please look at the percentage of people who watch yen dea tea vea, onree a minuscule 0.3% that is onree 0.3% of those who watch
NEWS people watch Sahara, Live India, IndiaTV, Mahua Tv and these channels does not contain a whiff of Ishrat Jehan all are busy in Uttarakhand particularly the fate survivors
and their relatives and when the going gets dark they telecast fight scene between kangi MP and TDP MLA

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Jun 2013 09:43

But Delhi remains a “huge” problem, a source said. At the recent Goa national executive, Modi reportedly spoke to state leaders separately and shared his concerns on issues like the possible impact of Arvind Kejriwal’s Aam Aadmi Party and the BJP’s failure to pick a campaign spearhead.

“Unlike other leaders who think Kejriwal is a fleeting phenomenon, Modi believes he has the potential to damage us even if he doesn’t help himself too much in the process,” a source said.

Vijay Goel, the Delhi BJP chief who is said to have secured his post because of Sushma Swaraj’s patronage and intervention with party president Rajnath Singh, has apparently been cold-shouldered by his peers — V.K. Malhotra, Vijendra Gupta, Harshvardhan and Aarati Mehra.

The quartet — a mix of the old and the not-so-old — has boycotted Goel’s shows, including a convention he organised last week for the city’s Muslims.

The cross-currents have thrown up a curious dynamic: although Goel is mentored by Sushma, her own godfather L.K. Advani is reported to be covertly encouraging Aarati, a former mayor, to challenge Goel.

Barring Sushma, it seems nobody else in the upper echelon is enthused about seeing Goel as the chief ministerial face. His community following is confined to the Banias of the old city. This, the sources stressed, is a limitation as the BJP requires a “strong” candidate of Bihari or Uttar Pradesh provenance to secure the votes of the two regional groups that have tilted towards the Congress in the past three polls.

Another problem is the absence of a central designated strategist-cum-manager, because of which the BJP does not even have a plan on the drawing board for Delhi.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1130628/j ... 057666.jsp

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 28 Jun 2013 10:11

fanne wrote:I dont think democaracy is an option anymore

The bane of Indics is the "Prithviraj syndrome" which is the expectation that enemies will play fair. As a people we have forgotten Arthashastra 101.

I cannot imagine why so many people think its OK to go into the 2014 poll with EVMs controlled by Mainos.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Jun 2013 10:20

Pranav wrote:
fanne wrote:I dont think democaracy is an option anymore
The bane of Indics is the "Prithviraj syndrome" which is the expectation that enemies will play fair. As a people we have forgotten Arthashastra 101. I cannot imagine why so many people think its OK to go into the 2014 poll with EVMs controlled by Mainos.

Indian Color=Safron revolution cant be in in the interest of Seculiars and Gaandi Family Dienasty.
Are they that stupid that they cant see the writing on wall and ignore it like French Royal Family.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Jun 2013 10:48

Madhu Kishwar says TV News Channels are Menace !
That is the best line.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Jun 2013 11:01

Pranav wrote:
fanne wrote:I dont think democaracy is an option anymore
The bane of Indics is the "Prithviraj syndrome" which is the expectation that enemies will play fair. As a people we have forgotten Arthashastra 101.
............

Not exactly. It is Jaichands which are problems.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 28 Jun 2013 11:21

Advani speaks a function for releasing a book by Kuldip Nayar - http://ibnlive.in.com/news/supreme-cour ... 350-3.html

Kuldip Nayar's latest diatribe -

New push to Hindutva ~ kuldip nayar
12 June 2013

Politics in India may not be the same again. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has charged the agenda. It has introduced pure communalism to the soft Hindutva that prevailed so far. By appointing hardliner Narendra Modi, Gujarat Chief Minister, as the panel chief for the 2014 parliament election, the party has dropped every bit of ambiguity over secularism. It is stark Hinduism for all to see.

Apparently, the old leadership resisted the decision. LK Advani had even submitted his resignation from all the posts he held in the party. Yet, the irresponsible younger cadre was in no mood to accommodate the sober point of view. For them, sharper communal politics was the minimum. Advani had reportedly warned behind the walls that Modi was not a proper person for India.

http://www.thestatesman.net/index.php?o ... 3&catid=39

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Jun 2013 11:31

If from 18 June to 28 th June UK Govt evacuated 1,00,000 stranded persons that amounts to 10,000 persons per day. So evacuating 15,000 is not a big task, esp. for those who specialise in DM. It may not mean taking all of them to their home in Gujrat. It means taking them to safety and providing basic relief. There was an announcement by NR that UK Disaster Victims can board trains at Dehradun and go anywhere in country free of cost, presumably after NaMo wrote to them. I have not seen any statement/claim from NaMo or from Gujrat Govt that they evacuated only Gujratis or that they indeed evacuated 15,000 people. But it need not be from Kedarnath alone, wide area was affected and people from several places could have been brought to safety.

But one needs to question how come UK govt did evacuation of 10,000 per day with less than 40 Heli and no helipad at their command in disaster area and had to be constructed and victims had to trek to reach helipads in difficult circumstances. This is while their incompetence has been demonstrably established. So if that figure is not doubted then I see no reason to doubt earlier claim when effectiveness of GA is well known. Do we have figures how many buses or other means of transport such as Car /truck/Bullock-kart /tricycles/Bicycles etc were engaged on nonexistent roads excluding Helis by UK Govt to transport 1,00,000 people. Most of them were seen taking Bus No. 11 with perosnalised self propulsion.

But the whole debate is a cruel joke on Victims going by the eyewitness account and statements of poor hapless victims. Any help would have been better if delivered quickly.

Luit · Post by **Luit** » 28 Jun 2013 12:07

Coup inside BJP is imminent. We will see charge sheets against Modi and Shah soon. This will be followed by a coup (inside BJP) by the LKA/D4 faction - planted men in the opposition - to reduce risk of blow-back.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 28 Jun 2013 12:31

Luit wrote:Coup inside BJP is imminent. We will see charge sheets against Modi and Shah soon. This will be followed by a coup (inside BJP) by the LKA/D4 faction - planted men in the opposition - to reduce risk of blow-back.

Coup ho Gaya. It was bloodless. D4 has lost the ability to influence. Among D4 only LKA was someone who mattered. He has already been neutralised.

The coup I expect to see is MSM abandoning Gandee familia for favouring 1 news channel over them.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Jun 2013 12:57

Modi speaks at Beyond a Billion Ballots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... wmIHnls-UA

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jun 2013 13:01

http://churumuri.wordpress.com/2013/06/ ... /#comments

As per some tweets, closet kangressi soondas is the son-in-law of Union Minister BK Handique.

After falling hook, line and dhokla for the PR fiction that Gujarat chief minister Narendra Damodardas Modi had “rescued” 15,000 Gujaratis in Uttarakhand, The Times of India attempts a feeble course correction on its editorial page today.

Abheek Barman, the former Economic Times editor, does some elemental number-crunching of the sort TOI’s reporter Anand Soondas ought to have done, to show that Modi’s Himalayan miracle was a “barefaced, cynical lie”.

But without once mentioning that it was TOI which was responsible for the original, barefaced, cynical lie.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Jun 2013 14:08

Su-Rajya Mera Janmasiddha Adhikar Hai (Good Governance is my Birth Right) - Narendra Modi

at Beyond a Billion Ballots Book Release function

Arjun · Post by **Arjun** » 28 Jun 2013 14:18

Murugan wrote:Su-Rajya Mera Janmasiddha Adhikar Hai (Good Governance is my Birth Right) - Narendra Modi

This should be the slogan for 2014.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 28 Jun 2013 14:29

^ Mein Use Le Kar Hi Rahunga

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Jun 2013 17:00

Mrs Lekhi shows how to deal with Cons and their media partners.

इशरत : मोदी को थी मुठभेड़ की खबर?

http://khabar.ndtv.com/video/show/news-point/280934

Misra · Post by **Misra** » 28 Jun 2013 17:14

Murugan wrote:Modi speaks at Beyond a Billion Ballots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... wmIHnls-UA

thanks. seems he took some pains to prepare for this speech and wanted to articulate his points clearly. organizing/rehearsing his thoughts for rallies to come. glad tidings for many at 1:28:40.

James B · Post by **James B** » 28 Jun 2013 18:08

Sushupti wrote:Mrs Lekhi shows how to deal with Cons and their media partners.

इशरत : मोदी को थी मुठभेड़ की खबर?

http://khabar.ndtv.com/video/show/news-point/280934

She literally shut up everyone.

BJP needs more people like this.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 28 Jun 2013 18:30

^^^ Yes, that was a fantastic single-handed performance by Meenakshi Lekhi. Very good Hindi too.

This lady has some serious talent.

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 28 Jun 2013 18:36

Good analysis of the latest attack on Modi -

CBI forging ‘facts’ in Ishrat case? - http://www.niticentral.com/2013/06/28/c ... 96629.html

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 28 Jun 2013 18:56

Murugan wrote:^ Mein Use Le Kar Hi Rahunga

Sorry, but at first glance my corrupted mind registered it as:

Modi: Mein Uski (Rahul ki) Le Kar Rahunga.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 28 Jun 2013 19:08

I just noted that Srnivasan Jain of NDTV has kali dadhi.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 28 Jun 2013 19:35

Ashok Sarraff wrote:I just noted that Srnivasan Jain of NDTV has kali dadhi.

and its main promoter Prannoy Lal Roy has white beard.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 28 Jun 2013 20:06

Is Rambo Gujarat's new mascot? Now, CBI says top cop acted like Rambo in Ishrat Jahan encounter

Hopefully, another "maut ka saudagar" moment - another gift from the Cong party that will keep on giving ...

Gujarat High Court today reserved till July 1 its order on a petition by top Gujarat police officer P P Pandey seeking quashing of an FIR filed against him in the Ishrat Jahan encounter case even as the CBI described him as the "mastermind" of the 2004 episode.

According to CBI, which is probing the case, Pandey, Additional DGP, acted like action hero Rambo in the entire operation. Ishrat, a 19-year-old Mumbai girl, and her three associates were gunned down by Ahmedabad Crime Branch, which had then claimed they were "terrorists". {Why the sneer quotes, moi wonders...}

Justice Harsha Devani, after hearing all sides in the case, fixed July 1 for giving her verdict on the plea.

The 1982-batch IPS officer, declared an absconder by the CBI Court here on June 21, has claimed in his petition that he had merely passed on the intelligence inputs that two of the four people killed in the encounter were "terrorists" and planning to enter the city to kill the Chief Minister.

Countering Pandey's argument that his role in the case was limited to providing intelligence inputs, Additional Solicitor General Indira Jaising claimed that Pandey was the 'mastermind' behind the killing of the four people.

"He is the mastermind behind the whole encounter. He was a conduit...he received inputs, passed it to his subordinates and arranged everything...in fact he was in total control of the operation. He actually acted as Rambo," she alleged.

The FIR, filed by the Central agency, alleges that Pandey provided the "so-called crucial intelligence inputs" to the fellow officers which said that Ishrat, a college student, and three others were LeT operatives and were on a mission to assassinate Chief Minister Narendra Modi.

Pandey, as Joint Commissioner of Police, Ahmedabad, was heading the Crime Branch when Ishrat, Javed Shaikh alias Pranesh Pillai, Amjadali Akbarali Rana and Zeeshan Johar were killed in the encounter near here on June 15, 2004.

Bad journalism... repeated repetitions.... print media picking up tv media's bad habits - running things in a loop with a 'breaking' label sans any new inputs or updates....

BTW, 2014 is bei=ginning to become a battle of Rambo versus Mogambo..... only...

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Jun 2013 20:18

Ashok Sarraff wrote:I just noted that Srnivasan Jain of NDTV has kali dadhi.

So much confoojon about Black beard

I thought this one....

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Jun 2013 20:19

Niticentral hosts Madhu Kisawar's pdf Modinama. Its updated regularly.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 28 Jun 2013 20:23

And we have our own white bread

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 28 Jun 2013 20:27

Case closed in that case. MM=safed dadhi and Pappu=kali dadhi. Prannoy Roy and Srinivasan Jain can sleep peacefully tonight (in separate beds).

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Jun 2013 20:40

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Jun 2013 20:44

Ishrat case: Home Ministry not convinced CBI has proof against IB officer

http://www.ddinews.gov.in/National/Nati ... an+CBI.htm

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 28 Jun 2013 20:46

NIA note claimed Ishrat was with LeT

http://www.sunday-guardian.com/news/nia ... s-with-let

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 28 Jun 2013 20:53

chaanakya wrote:And we have our own white bread

I'm not on FB or Twitter, but this seems like a fantastic opportunity to do some more damage to Cong. reputation. Could somebody do the honors, please? Black beard=pappu, White beard=MMS. Spread far & wide. Rinse, repeat. Congi formulas and SOPs can be used against them.

Ashok Sarraff · Post by **Ashok Sarraff** » 28 Jun 2013 21:01

^And kindly credit Ashok Sarraff for igniting the fire