Yeah, given that an average baby takes 3-4 tonnes in one go, and we use only two probes at a time, a Midas can service couple of squadrons in less than 2 hours.Priyank. wrote:The ToI article on role the IL-78 during Exercise Coperative Cope Thunder mentions that it can carry upto 118 tonnes of fuel.
I am sure some of you are going to have a nice time doing all kinds of math using that datum.
Exercise Co-operative Cope Thunder
IAF team shows spunk in US
FLYING FROM daybreak till late at night, undergoing extensive mission plannings, flying till it tested their stamina, the IAF contingent in Exercise Cope Thunder in the US not only showed utmost professionalism but also won hearts of the Americans.
Appreciating their role as ambassadors of the nation, the Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal S. Krishnaswamy proudly proclaimed that the media in Alaska described the IAF contingent as the “nicest bunch of people they had ever met”.
Speaking to HT, the members of the contingent expressed delight at having been exposed to the tactics and planning of other air forces in the exercise and were one in their view that it had broadened their horizons and honed their skills.
Flight Lt Vishal Gupta, who flew a Jaguar in the exercise, said the pilots got to know the work ethics of other participating air forces and got an opportunity to show how the average Indian pilot was better then the others in stamina and flying skills.
Flight Lt S.K. Anand said that there were lessons learnt but it was also time to give “headaches” to the Americans and prove the mettle of the IAF. Crossing the Atlantic was also a challenge because there would be no turning back after a certain point over the ocean.
One of the peculiar problems faced by the pilots was that of the compasses “acting funny” due to the proximity of the airbase in Alaska to the North Pole. Wing Commander S. Sanjay said they were prepared for this eventuality and did not allow it to affect their flying.
However, the most elated flyers in the bunch were those who flew the IL-78 flight refuelling aircraft and trained hard for the exercise. Squadron Leaders A. Roy and S.S. Shinulkar said that the two IL-78 aircraft had been flying down to Ambala from Agra everyday since March 1 to train with Jaguar pilots.
“We shifted to Ambala in June and cleared our concepts along with the fighter pilots getting to know them and working towards achieving synergy,” said Roy. Sorties were flown between Ambala and Nagpur to simulate the crossing of the Atlantic with the understanding that there was no airbase in between these two points.
More exercises on anvil
THE IAF will be taking part in a joint exercise with the South African Air Force in which six Mirage 2000 aircraft and two IL-78 aircraft will take place. Later this year, the IAF will take part in an exercise with the Singapore Air Force in Gwalior.
FLYING FROM daybreak till late at night, undergoing extensive mission plannings, flying till it tested their stamina, the IAF contingent in Exercise Cope Thunder in the US not only showed utmost professionalism but also won hearts of the Americans.
Appreciating their role as ambassadors of the nation, the Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal S. Krishnaswamy proudly proclaimed that the media in Alaska described the IAF contingent as the “nicest bunch of people they had ever met”.
Speaking to HT, the members of the contingent expressed delight at having been exposed to the tactics and planning of other air forces in the exercise and were one in their view that it had broadened their horizons and honed their skills.
Flight Lt Vishal Gupta, who flew a Jaguar in the exercise, said the pilots got to know the work ethics of other participating air forces and got an opportunity to show how the average Indian pilot was better then the others in stamina and flying skills.
Flight Lt S.K. Anand said that there were lessons learnt but it was also time to give “headaches” to the Americans and prove the mettle of the IAF. Crossing the Atlantic was also a challenge because there would be no turning back after a certain point over the ocean.
One of the peculiar problems faced by the pilots was that of the compasses “acting funny” due to the proximity of the airbase in Alaska to the North Pole. Wing Commander S. Sanjay said they were prepared for this eventuality and did not allow it to affect their flying.
However, the most elated flyers in the bunch were those who flew the IL-78 flight refuelling aircraft and trained hard for the exercise. Squadron Leaders A. Roy and S.S. Shinulkar said that the two IL-78 aircraft had been flying down to Ambala from Agra everyday since March 1 to train with Jaguar pilots.
“We shifted to Ambala in June and cleared our concepts along with the fighter pilots getting to know them and working towards achieving synergy,” said Roy. Sorties were flown between Ambala and Nagpur to simulate the crossing of the Atlantic with the understanding that there was no airbase in between these two points.
More exercises on anvil
THE IAF will be taking part in a joint exercise with the South African Air Force in which six Mirage 2000 aircraft and two IL-78 aircraft will take place. Later this year, the IAF will take part in an exercise with the Singapore Air Force in Gwalior.
Praying lips all smiles as pilots touch base
HERE, nothing is left to chance, or taken for granted. So as the Air Force team was to leave for Cooperative Cope Thunder exercise in Alaska, squadron Commanding Officer, Wg Cdr K.K. Khera’s house was the venue for mahamrityunjay jap. A total of 57 days later, as the team touched down at Ambala today, it seemed to have worked well. Prayers on the lips of kin turning to broad smiles.
Dressed in their best day wear, wives of pilots who took off for Eilson in the United States on June 21 were all smiles as the men touched down to safety this morning.
Brimming with joy, Priyanka Kukreti, wife of Jaguar pilot, Flt Lt Devashish Kukreti, said ‘‘Yes, there were some apprehensions about him flying so far. It is part of our lives. All that we could do was to pray for their safe return. They have, touchwood.’’
Priyanka, whose brother is a paratrooper in the Army, said ‘‘Everyday, we performed pujas and prayed to seek his blessings to ward off any obstacle. We were regularly in touch, though.’’
Waiting in a nearby room was little Isha and her mother Rupali Tomar. Overjoyed to see her father Flt Lt Vikas Tomar back, the child couldn’t control her excitement. ‘‘We did have some apprehensions. We kept our fingers crossed. More than anything else, we were praying for favourable weather.’’
Mother of Flt Lt Vishal Gupta, head of PGI’s Anatomy Department, Prof Madhur Gupta, however, had no fear. ‘‘My husband was in the Air Force. I was never afraid. Today, I am a proud mother. E-mails allowed us to stay in touch regularly.’’
Charged with memories of what he dubbed the ‘‘brightest’’ phase of his career, Wg Cdr Sanjay, who flew the IL 76 transport aircraft observed: ‘‘We did not fear flying for such long hours. We did adequate planning and preparation to help us clock nearly 20,000 km one side.’’ The Wg Cdr added: ‘‘With prayers to the Almighty, everything turned out to be perfect. He showered us with his blessings to succeed in our mission. He was deep in our hearts.’’
Obstacles galore but they made it on time
Recalling their flight across countries and oceans, the pilots said dense clouds in Canada did not quite put them at ease. Commander of the two IL 78 tanker aircraft which refuelled the six Jaguars, Gp Capt Shouvik Roy, said ‘‘The weather was quite demanding, especially in Canada. We encountered lots of low clouds, precipitation and rain. It was coupled with heavy air traffic for Alaska. Still, we were able to reach the destination dot on time.’’
HERE, nothing is left to chance, or taken for granted. So as the Air Force team was to leave for Cooperative Cope Thunder exercise in Alaska, squadron Commanding Officer, Wg Cdr K.K. Khera’s house was the venue for mahamrityunjay jap. A total of 57 days later, as the team touched down at Ambala today, it seemed to have worked well. Prayers on the lips of kin turning to broad smiles.
Dressed in their best day wear, wives of pilots who took off for Eilson in the United States on June 21 were all smiles as the men touched down to safety this morning.
Brimming with joy, Priyanka Kukreti, wife of Jaguar pilot, Flt Lt Devashish Kukreti, said ‘‘Yes, there were some apprehensions about him flying so far. It is part of our lives. All that we could do was to pray for their safe return. They have, touchwood.’’
Priyanka, whose brother is a paratrooper in the Army, said ‘‘Everyday, we performed pujas and prayed to seek his blessings to ward off any obstacle. We were regularly in touch, though.’’
Waiting in a nearby room was little Isha and her mother Rupali Tomar. Overjoyed to see her father Flt Lt Vikas Tomar back, the child couldn’t control her excitement. ‘‘We did have some apprehensions. We kept our fingers crossed. More than anything else, we were praying for favourable weather.’’
Mother of Flt Lt Vishal Gupta, head of PGI’s Anatomy Department, Prof Madhur Gupta, however, had no fear. ‘‘My husband was in the Air Force. I was never afraid. Today, I am a proud mother. E-mails allowed us to stay in touch regularly.’’
Charged with memories of what he dubbed the ‘‘brightest’’ phase of his career, Wg Cdr Sanjay, who flew the IL 76 transport aircraft observed: ‘‘We did not fear flying for such long hours. We did adequate planning and preparation to help us clock nearly 20,000 km one side.’’ The Wg Cdr added: ‘‘With prayers to the Almighty, everything turned out to be perfect. He showered us with his blessings to succeed in our mission. He was deep in our hearts.’’
Obstacles galore but they made it on time
Recalling their flight across countries and oceans, the pilots said dense clouds in Canada did not quite put them at ease. Commander of the two IL 78 tanker aircraft which refuelled the six Jaguars, Gp Capt Shouvik Roy, said ‘‘The weather was quite demanding, especially in Canada. We encountered lots of low clouds, precipitation and rain. It was coupled with heavy air traffic for Alaska. Still, we were able to reach the destination dot on time.’’
Hmmmmm - there are some pretty pictures there folks.Himanshu wrote:TONS of IAF cope thunder pics..
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/pages/page6.html
Let's get our lenses out and start looking at them critically. What is good? What is bad? Which photos are pretty? It it the color? The angle? The lighting? The time of day?
Aero India is 6 months away and we MUST come out with the best pictures yet.
Cmon all you photo and camera maniacs. Get busy dissecting these.
A great picture of a clamshell thrust reverser
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03682.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03682.jpg
What's the purpose of this?shiv wrote:A great picture of a clamshell thrust reverser
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03682.jpg
Slow the aircraft on landing. The thrust of the engines is directed 'forwards; and in effect the aircraft slows itself.JTull wrote:What's the purpose of this?shiv wrote:A great picture of a clamshell thrust reverser
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03682.jpg
the clamshell thing is used in most civilian a/c . look at rear of engine
in B737 or A320 next time u fly.
I liked this photo. Looks like a endless usaf lineup of heavies heh heh
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C05124.jpg
in B737 or A320 next time u fly.
I liked this photo. Looks like a endless usaf lineup of heavies heh heh
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C05124.jpg
>>Always wanted to ask - Do we really need permission to LINK to a site?
Shaayad, agar permission liya toh, he'll think twice before removing the link?
AFAIK, no permission is required to link to a site, although its considerd courteous to inform the site owner of the link. If you don't inform, he might have no idea who's linking to his site and might remove the page and then you are left with a dangling link.
Shaayad, agar permission liya toh, he'll think twice before removing the link?
AFAIK, no permission is required to link to a site, although its considerd courteous to inform the site owner of the link. If you don't inform, he might have no idea who's linking to his site and might remove the page and then you are left with a dangling link.
shiv wrote:Hmmmmm - there are some pretty pictures there folks.Himanshu wrote:TONS of IAF cope thunder pics..
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/pages/page6.html
Let's get our lenses out and start looking at them critically. What is good? What is bad? Which photos are pretty? It it the color? The angle? The lighting? The time of day?
Aero India is 6 months away and we MUST come out with the best pictures yet.
Cmon all you photo and camera maniacs. Get busy dissecting these.
By my rakoning these are unique / good ones:
1. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03728.jpg
2. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03587.jpg
3. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03604.jpg
4. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03615.jpg
5. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03616.jpg
6. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03642.jpg
7. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03674.jpg
8. http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/p ... C03719.jpg
Lighting - depends on location during time of day. Need permission to be located anywhere - press pass, etc
Size - depends on lenses and at times on the number of cemaras on hand - each with a diff lens helps
Subjects have to cooperate too. If planes are parked - for instance - facing away from the sun/light, then not much you can do. Unless u have a high slunk camera.
Size - depends on lenses and at times on the number of cemaras on hand - each with a diff lens helps
Subjects have to cooperate too. If planes are parked - for instance - facing away from the sun/light, then not much you can do. Unless u have a high slunk camera.
Re: :P
Yes - but I think these pics go far beyond that.merlin wrote:>>Aero India is 6 months away and we MUST come out with the best pictures yet.
Please to get permission to shoot from in front of the railings rather than behind them saaar. Will surely do the needfull.
The composition is excellent. There is symmetry in the photographs, or an unusual angle to highlight something. The lighting composition is great with no deep shadows and bright areas. Movement is captured in several photos - the after burner and the spray in a jag takeoff. Even the "half-jag" photo looks good with an Illyushin in the background - both equally well lit up. There are some photos with a some bery pretty color contrats - green on grey or orange on grey. There is general lack of distracting things on the side - but that can only be avoided by luck and careful composition I suppose.
I don't know if subtle lighting conditions in Alaska helped - but in Bangalore in Feb we tend to have very bright sky, very bright tarmac and dark shadows below the aircraft.
Pics already posted on page - 3.Himanshu wrote:TONS of IAF cope thunder pics..
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/pages/page6.html
Shiv, I used to concentrate on all sorts of issues w.r.t. taking good pictures, like aperture, shutter, etc. etc. But it's not really that difficult - just set your camera to program mode (full auto), use an ISO of 100 or 64 for a clear sky or 200 or 400 for a cloudy sky.
Jut keep two things in mind:
- Just try to fit the whole plane/object in the frame, and align your photograph with the horizon, and your pictures will turn out to be awesome.
- And make sure you take all your "outdoor" pictures before 10AM or after 4PM in India; otherwise you'll get toplight in your pictures making them very high contrast.
Jut keep two things in mind:
- Just try to fit the whole plane/object in the frame, and align your photograph with the horizon, and your pictures will turn out to be awesome.
- And make sure you take all your "outdoor" pictures before 10AM or after 4PM in India; otherwise you'll get toplight in your pictures making them very high contrast.
He clearly mentions on his home page that hes gone completely DIGITAL.MT Singha wrote:the images contain no exif data. looks like he took with film camera and scanned in. a digital camera does help to review the quality of shots but most dont do well in adverse light conditions unlike SLRs.
The Sony DSC-F828 offered my focal range of 28 to 200 mm right out of the camera, faster lens down to f2.0, manual zoom and an optional manual focus ring. A huge battery life capable of filling my 2 cards of 3/4 of a gig even using flash most of time. Most of all there is no worries about CCD dust and it is convenient enough to take to my daughters skating lessons with the feel of an SLR.
Air to air shoots? I am ready. No more pockets full of film and squeezing equipment in the nooks and crannys of airplanes. Helmets and masks do not bother me because I can now shoot from the rear LCD screen. Maybe that will cure motion sickness! The added bonus is that I can now burn a CD of the event, right at the event.
I am not sure if it has any implications. And, at this stage, it should not really matter. Real-time situations pose a different set of problems - unique to the region and probably each operation/flight. The Copes, I think, can only add to the knowledge base - anything additional to what is already known. BDian observers were also present there, FWIW.ramana wrote:From many press accounts of Cope Thunder the IAF Jags had penetrated the USAF defences and made strikes on ground targets. Please discuss implications for the TSP's high value targets and those with PLAAF.
The big selling point of those lenses are those fast fast 28 mm f 2.0 lenses...MT Singha wrote:odd choice for a camera. I just hate those $999 prosumer ones coming out with the big lens on left in a L-shaped design.
They cost a fortune otherwise.. But the shutter lag really makes them a *itch to use for fast moving objects.. Things are getting better though..
That depends on the manufacturer .. Some do offer a constant F 2.0 But they are meant for those richy rich types that can afford it.. Otherwise F 2.0 becomes f 2.8 in worst case when fully zoomed. It still offers quite a bit of price benefit when compared to $4000 dollar price tag for a 200 mm f 2.0 zoom. Not to mention they is only one or two manufacturer's making that kind of lens..
Trying to get drebel to fit that profile would cost you no less than $5000 dollars when you are done getting all what prosumer compact offers you.
Trying to get drebel to fit that profile would cost you no less than $5000 dollars when you are done getting all what prosumer compact offers you.
JaiS wrote:
Pics already posted on page - 3.Himanshu wrote:TONS of IAF cope thunder pics..
http://homepage.mac.com/aviationphoto/pages/page6.html
Did'nt noticed it.. .. I saw later that you had posted this link on AFM too..