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shyamd wrote:
sum wrote:Shyam-saar,
are you so sure that we are so utterly hopeless in penetrating ME and Paki networks ( HUMINT wise)?
Pretty sure... Yes. Of course there are instances where IB has penetrated certain modules(IB isnt too bad in some ways because their job is easier, the successes seem to be domestic but not internationally. Okay you can argue about Khwaja's arrest recently, lets just hope that sort of ops continues - wasnt it an IB op rather than a RAW op? Outside of India is RAW jurisdiction.). But there is still so much to be done in TSP/ME and outside the region (europe - recent purchase of paragliders) (which technically comes under RAW). Half the time, we know where the IM managers are only because of intercepts or based on arrested guys.

Foreign HUMINT - from Af-TSP/Gulf is not that good. Needs a lot of work.
1. Recent reporting of India's prior knowledge on supposed coup in BD and SL is due to Humint or sigint ?
2. Intelligence about movement of "Quetta Shura" to Karachi was attributed to Indian source. Humint or sigint ?
3. Sharing of intel on Taliban to US during Bush period and later, Humint or Sigint ?
4. When Mush position was in danger due to lawyer strike and other things, MMS requested our elements in PAK not to further harm the Mush gov or something like that. How it is without humint in PAK ?
5. And there is very famous Kargil episode of taping the conversation. How the device is placed without the Humint ?

OFcourse i agree with you to further strengthen whatever we have.
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Kanson wrote:1. Recent reporting of India's prior knowledge on supposed coup in BD and SL is due to Humint or sigint ?
2. Intelligence about movement of "Quetta Shura" to Karachi was attributed to Indian source. Humint or sigint ?
3. Sharing of intel on Taliban to US during Bush period and later, Humint or Sigint ?
4. When Mush position was in danger due to lawyer strike and other things, MMS requested our elements in PAK not to further harm the Mush gov or something like that. How it is without humint in PAK ?
5. And there is very famous Kargil episode of taping the conversation. How the device is placed without the Humint ?
Most of the time its a mix of techint and humint..ITs almost never exclusive..

The last one though is likely to be a pure techint job..There are tons of sensors, receivers etc that try to intercept signals from across the border - these can be microwave, satellite et al..The channel used by Musharraf and Gen Aziz Khan was a sat one, and we would have managed to intercept and unscramble it..At least thats what one deciphers from Gen VK Singh's book..

ACtually techint is relatively easy, its a question of putting enough money on gadgets and hire enough good people to do analysis...HUMINT, getting a high quality source or "mole" is far more difficult...
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Another intel coup for the Russians?
Double-agent may have passed British secrets to Russians
British and American military secrets may have been passed to the Russians by a double agent in what Western espionage chiefs fear could be the biggest spy scandal since CIA traitor Aldrich Ames was caught selling intelligence to Moscow in the 1990s.

By Nick Squires
Published: 9:34PM GMT 17 Nov 2008

An investigation by Nato, the United States and the EU has been launched to ascertain the extent of the alleged betrayal by Herman Simm, 61, an Estonian defence ministry official who spymasters believe may have been working as a Russian agent for a decade.

It is feared that Simm, who as one of the Baltic country's most senior defence officials had access to highly sensitive Nato information, passed to the Russians classified information on cyber defence, Nato operations in Afghanistan and the Balkans, and the US missile shield.

Russia accused of 'annexation' of Georgia provincesAmerican spymasters are working with their European counterparts to probe the extent of what appears to be a massive breach of Western defence security.

"The longer they work on the case, the more obvious it becomes how big the impact of the suspected treachery really is," Germany's Der Spiegel magazine commented.

Russia's successful penetration of Western intelligence by way of Simm was a "catastrophe" according to a German official.

Simm – described by one Estonian newspaper as "a gold card operative" – was arrested in September and charged with supplying information to a foreign power. His wife Heete, who previously worked as a lawyer at Estonia's national police headquarters in the capital Tallinn, was also detained – charged with being an accessory to treason.

Simm was recruited by the Russians in the mid-1990s, according to Jaanus Rahumaegi, who heads Estonia's parliamentary control commission for the security services.

It seems he was motivated more by money than ideology. He received millions of dollars from was the Russians for his information and came under suspicion after buying up land and property, including a rural retreat on the Baltic coast and a handsome villa on the outskirts of Tallinn.

His secret life as a double agent was ultimately uncovered when his Russian 'handler' tried to recruit a second agent, who promptly reported the matter to Estonia's security services.

Simm regularly travelled to western Europe to take part in talks on how to ensure the security of secret information. Estonia is a leader in information technology, encouraging its citizens to pay their taxes and vote online.

US and Nato chiefs are grappling with an even worse nightmare – that Simm, who for years was in charge of granting security clearance to Estonian intelligence agents, could have put in place other spies working for Moscow.

The depth of Simm's alleged betrayal, and the fact that he reportedly worked with his wife in passing on secrets, has evoked memories of Aldrich Ames, the former head of the CIA counter-intelligence department who was one of Russia's most successful 'moles' in the US.

Simm is likely to be formally arraigned in the new year. If found guilty he could face up to 15 years in prison. Neither he nor his lawyers have commented on the accusations.

The case is a deep embarrassment to Nato, and a measure of the efforts Russia will go to in order to retain some influence in the Baltic states. Nato has so far refused to comment on the case.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... sians.html
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An intelligent guide to security
Home Minister P. Chidambaram appropriately chose the occasion of the Intelligence Bureau’s Centenary Endowment Lecture to map out his plan for creating a new architecture for India’s security. Adding to the credibility of his ability to think big on the security front are proposals that rest on sound precepts, addressing concerns specific to India.

The proposed architecture is built on the fulcrum provided by the home ministry, which looks after internal security. It will revolve around the National Counter-Terrorism Centre (NCTC), the national apex body dealing with the two most serious threats to national security — cross-border terrorism and Naxalism.The Multi-Agency Centre (MAC) provided by the Intelligence Bureau (IB) would be at the core of the NCTC.

Security is all about tackling the ‘invisible plans and moves of the hidden enemy’, which can be pre-empted only on the basis of prior information. Thus, intelligence is the chief instrument of security. The total intelligence on a particular threat to national security in the possession of different agencies must reach the point from which a nationally coordinated response can be set off. The technology-enabled system must ensure an instant communication of intelligence to the action-taking authorities. Security failures are known to have occurred not only because of failure of ‘information’ but also due to failure of ‘communication’ or ‘action’. Moreover, even as the success of security lies in prevention, it is equally important to have strong post-event response mechanisms such as the National Security Guard, the Central Bureau of Investigation and the NIA.

The proposals take note of the reality that both intelligence agencies and action-taking organisations are spread across several ministries and government wings. The NCTC has to provide a forum where all agencies — civil and military — can place their information relating to a defined threat on the table, to better steer a response. The follow-up may be in the form of mobilisation of the strike forces where the target has been identified but further development of the information for a counter-intelligence operation is required. There’s often an operational gap between intelligence and the strike force that sometimes leads to avoidable collateral damage or police casualties. Thus, Chidambaram has attached much importance to the operational role of the NCTC through the MAC.
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On the Ashok Chaturvedi - MK Narayanan disaster. Good article.
EXCLUSIVE
investigation ashok chaturvedi
A Spy And His Soup

A former RAW chief gets the rules bent to obtain diplomatic passports and immunity

http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?264027
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Kanson wrote: 1. Recent reporting of India's prior knowledge on supposed coup in BD and SL is due to Humint or sigint ?
Don't know, guess we will find out.
2. Intelligence about movement of "Quetta Shura" to Karachi was attributed to Indian source. Humint or sigint ?
Could easily be SIGINT, India has extensive ops in certain locations.
3. Sharing of intel on Taliban to US during Bush period and later, Humint or Sigint ?
Both.
4. When Mush position was in danger due to lawyer strike and other things, MMS requested our elements in PAK not to further harm the Mush gov or something like that. How it is without humint in PAK ?
Sure, India may have a few guys like Sarabjit around.
5. And there is very famous Kargil episode of taping the conversation. How the device is placed without the Humint ?
Already answered.

Look, speak to people in the agencies, RAW used to get its weekly briefings toforeign agencies thrown back at it, saying "we already know all this" and "this came straight from the papers". Check out the books. One person even commented to me "its not even an intelligence agency". They get a few local newspapers from Af-Pak region, and de-cypher whats going on. Its common practice.
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shyamd wrote:
Kanson wrote:
5. And there is very famous Kargil episode of taping the conversation. How the device is placed without the Humint ?
They may have sacrificed this source and others connected just to massage a few egos. These guys would surely have died really horrible deaths.
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somnath wrote:
Kanson wrote: 5. And there is very famous Kargil episode of taping the conversation. How the device is placed without the Humint ?
The last one though is likely to be a pure techint job..There are tons of sensors, receivers etc that try to intercept signals from across the border - these can be microwave, satellite et al..The channel used by Musharraf and Gen Aziz Khan was a sat one, and we would have managed to intercept and unscramble it..At least thats what one deciphers from Gen VK Singh's book..
From accounts published at that time, There are certain voices within the establishment against releasing of tapes as they feared it could compromise the source. It is finally a political decision. As per the published reports,"As expected, it was removed within days from the tapes released". So i presume "it" refers to some type of devices if not humans. To place such device one need human resource and intelligence to penerate at high level.
They may have sacrificed this source and others connected just to massage a few egos. These guys would surely have died really horrible deaths.
Alas, I just hope it didnt.
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shyamd wrote:
Kanson wrote:2. Intelligence about movement of "Quetta Shura" to Karachi was attributed to Indian source. Humint or sigint ?
Could easily be SIGINT, India has extensive ops in certain locations.
But there is some reports of sighting him or his associates. And then the place is Karachi. Plausible to believe that. If we believe it is just SIGINT, i wonder Americans being better in SIGINT than Indians, why they not picked it up.
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Myanmar to free Suu Kyi, help India flush out terrorists
26 Jan 2010 8ak: In a major boost to India’s efforts in fighting terror in the North-East, the Myanmar junta has agreed to fight terror jointly with India to flush out terrorists who are operating terror camps along the 1,650 km border. And in another historic move Myanmar's Home Minister Major General Maung Oo has reportedly announced that Suu Kyi, under house arrest since 1989 may finally be released in November. This will be after the 'democratic' elections.

The decision to work with India was taken on Thursday in the Myanmar capital Nay Pay Taw, during the three-day home secretary-level talks between the two nations. This development is significant, because India has for long suspected the Commander-in-Chief of ULFA, Paresh Baruah, to have taken a safe haven in Myanmar along with other high-profile leaders, who are wanted by the Indian government for their role in spreading terror in the North-Eastern region of India.

"Security forces of India and Myanmar will conduct coordinated operation in their respective territories in the next two-three months. The objective of the operation is that no militant can escape to the other side after facing heat in one side," a Home Ministry official told PTI on the condition of anonymity.

The joint terror fighting mechanism negotiated between India and Myanmar is on the similar lines as Bhutan, which launched Operation “All Clear” in 2003 and busted as many as 30 terror camps belonging to outlawed rebel groups United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA, the National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB) and the Kamatapur Liberation Organisation (KLO) that operated form its soil against India. The operation also resulted in 20 rebels being killed.

However, the security experts are not very enthusiastic about the proposed development. Top ministry sources informed 8ak that a similar plan was negotiated in 2002 during the eight national-level meeting between India and Myanmar, which resulted in tall commitments being made by the Junta, however, the militants continue to hide across the border and plan anti-India activities. The sources added that the two nations had also sought to increase naval cooperation in 2005, during the visit of then Myanmar's Naval Chief Soe Thein, but nothing substantial has ever been achieved.

New Delhi has been trying to contain the Chinese influence in Myanmar and has increased interaction with the Junta at all official levels. Indian has also extended phenomenal help in upgrading Myanmar’s Sittwe port. But the success of New Delhi in gaining a foot hold in Myanmar is being doubted by many experts. Especially, when the latter is being suspected to receive nuclear weapons technology from China and North Korea as observed by former R&AW official R.S.N. Singh at a seminar organised by policy think tank CLAWS in national capital New Delhi.
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C. Christine Fair writes on SIMI and Indian Mujahideen. She has mainly relied on Praveen Swami's work

http://www.nbr.org/publications/asia_po ... aIslam.pdf
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^ Thanks for the post. 8)
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Institutions Matter
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home ... 535834.cms
India's national security apparatus is undergoing changes with the appointment of a new national security adviser (NSA) and the home ministry's decision to reorganise itself. These are welcome developments and should have come long back. The danger is that once again there will be piecemeal changes and substantive innovations would be kept aside for another day. There is a perceptible lack of institutionalisation of foreign and security policymaking in India and this has imposed some serious costs on the nation over the years, in particular allowing a drift to set in without any long-term orientation

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Kanson wrote: But there is some reports of sighting him or his associates. And then the place is Karachi. Plausible to believe that. If we believe it is just SIGINT, i wonder Americans being better in SIGINT than Indians, why they not picked it up.
True, but if you had the evidence, would you want to upset TSP, or perhaps let TSP know that western spies are in the inner circle? It may be a tactical maneuver. We will see about that as well.
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Myanmar/Burma is critical for China if it wants to circumvent the Malacca Straits.Its "Malacca Dilemma" can be overcome in part by establishing a strong naval presence from Burmese bases and oil/petro terminals and refineries along the Burmese coast where Gulf oil convoys can be offloaded,protected by Chinese naval forces operating out of Gwadar.US relationships with ceratin ASEAN powers makes it more dangerous to transit the straits.Using Hambantota in Sri Lanka and perhaps port of call facilities in B'Desh (with its hard core naval bases in Burma and Pak) will enable China to actually throw a "ring" around India should it have the numbers of warships and subs available.The massive relentless Chinese naval build-up,the largest in the world,and the recently revealed massive base at sanya in Hainan island,indicates that it will have the means and will to try just that in the years ahead.
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Does CAT have any legal authority over our intel people? Strange. Read this article ....
Why the media is giving such a sympathetic touch without knowing the details?

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1100205/j ... 069656.jsp
Officer & dad wins battle with ‘cruel master’
ANANYA SENGUPTA
New Delhi, Feb. 4: An Intelligence Bureau officer lauded for drawing up a blueprint that saved VIPs during the Parliament attack but sacked for trying to leave the country so his kids could study abroad, has won his battle with his “cruel master”.

In an order dated February 2, the Central Administrative Tribunal has quashed Francis John Arahna’s dismissal order, saying the 1984-batch IPS officer had been a “victim” of “legal malice, arbitrariness and bias”.

The tribunal has ordered the IB to pay within a month Arahna’s salary for the three years he had been in suspension before his dismissal on September 17 last year, and Rs 1 lakh as compensation for mental torture.

In June 2006, the IB officer had returned from a assignment in the US, where he worked as a counsellor with the Indian embassy, and sought voluntary retirement. In August, IB officials detained Arahna at Delhi airport. They later claimed in court the officer was trying to flee the country on an individual passport with a work permit visa for the International Monetary Fund stamped on it.

They said Arahna hadn’t yet received any order on his plea for voluntary retirement but had dumped his diplomatic passport. “He was under watch,” the IB officials said.

On August 22, Arahna’s office ordered a departmental probe saying he was trying to leave India without permission. Arahna admitted the charge but said he wanted to leave so his three sons could study in America.

Without any further probe, Arahna was suspended. He remained under suspension for over three years before being dismissed last September.

Arahna approached the tribunal and sought relief from his “cruel master”.

“I have three boys and could not hope to educate them all abroad on my salary once I got back home to India. I thus was inclined to accept the offer of employment, which would enable me to pay for my children’s continuing stay in the Washington area while they completed their education,” he said.

The officer, who still had 13 years service left when he applied for voluntary retirement, said he had decided that “forsaking” his “almost assured career advancement was a price” he was “willing to pay to see” his children have a bright future.

“That’s the reason why I wanted to take voluntary retirement. In hindsight, I see that I staked not just my career, but my reputation and the fair name of my family.”

Arahna also said he had been “handpicked” to be in charge of “VVIP security for the highest in the land. It was I who drafted the entire plans for securing Parliament House in the event of an attack.” The House was attacked in December 2001 but no VIPs died.

The tribunal said the IB had “denied” Arahna a “fair hearing… and violated the principles of natural justice”.

That the IB “didn’t even appoint an enquiry officer and kept Arahna’s plea pending doesn’t mean that he is going to thwart his responsibilities towards his family”, the tribunal said.
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In June 2006, the IB officer had returned from a assignment in the US, where he worked as a counsellor with the Indian embassy, and sought voluntary retirement. In August, IB officials detained Arahna at Delhi airport. They later claimed in court the officer was trying to flee the country on an individual passport with a work permit visa for the International Monetary Fund stamped on it.
WTF is this?

They obviously cant expect the IB to come out with the "real" reasons and all their surveillance material in a open court. Im sure that if Rabinder singh had been intercepted while fleeing, he would have been awarded a compensation by his "cruel master" :-?
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Is the officer Stephen Aranha from Hyderabad?
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sum wrote:
In June 2006, the IB officer had returned from a assignment in the US, where he worked as a counsellor with the Indian embassy, and sought voluntary retirement. In August, IB officials detained Arahna at Delhi airport. They later claimed in court the officer was trying to flee the country on an individual passport with a work permit visa for the International Monetary Fund stamped on it.
WTF is this?

They obviously cant expect the IB to come out with the "real" reasons and all their surveillance material in a open court. Im sure that if Rabinder singh had been intercepted while fleeing, he would have been awarded a compensation by his "cruel master" :-?
Yes ! something is fisshy with his sudden love towards USA education of his kids sacrifying the bright career !!
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Perhaps there wasn't enough evidence to convict. :-?
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shyamd wrote:Perhaps there wasn't enough evidence to convict. :-?
But isnt that the case in almost all spy cases? How many of the cambridge five and American folks working for the USSR ever convicted? It was hardly a handful as it is almost never possible to produce evidence against a intel operative since they have bee trained lifelong to avoid leaving any traces.

Other than the communist countries, erring spies usually get away with a rap on their knuckles(unless caught red handed in very, very serious offense) but the agency is never asked to compensate them for cashiering them. :-?
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True. But Washington is a "friendly" country, we wouldn't want to lose the co-operation. :evil: Aranha is on the offensive because Delhi probably knows they can't convict.
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Prabu wrote:

Yes ! something is fisshy with his sudden love towards USA education of his kids sacrifying the bright career !!
He must have been compromised by the US and offered a job at the IMF.

What is his academic qualification?
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But isnt that the case in almost all spy cases? How many of the cambridge five and American folks working for the USSR ever convicted? It was hardly a handful as it is almost never possible to produce evidence against a intel operative since they have bee trained lifelong to avoid leaving any traces.
Maclean and Burgess defected to the USSR and so did Philby, who was then in the Middle East, at a later date defect to the Soviet Union, under cover of night aboard a Soviet freighter.

Blunt was given formal immunity in exchange for spilling the beans to Her Majesty's Govt.

The Fifth man is a mystery and on the basis of the interrogation of the Russian defector, Golitsyn, it was surmised that there was a Fifth Spy too! John Cairncross confessed to spy for the USSR, but denied that he was the Fifth Man.

Robert Philip Hanssen a former CIA operative operated for the USSR for more than 20 years. He was arrested, interrogated and got a life imprisonment without having a chance for parole.

Aldrich Ames a former CIA officer was a double agent for the Soviet Union. Aldrich passed secret information to Soviet agents beginning in the mid-1980s until his arrest in 1994. Ames and his wife, Rosario Dupuy, were arrested in 1994 and charged with espionage. Ames was given a life sentence. Dupuy served five years in prison.

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, the famous Atomic Spies were both executed in the Sing Sing prison.

And the list goes on.

If one wants, then spies can be taken to task.
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Maclean and Burgess defected to the USSR and so did Philby, who was then in the Middle East, at a later date defect to the Soviet Union, under cover of night aboard a Soviet freighter.
RayC Sir...I am interested in reading more about intelligence stuff. Can you please mention the books you got this info from or any other good book ??

Thanks
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sunny y wrote:
Maclean and Burgess defected to the USSR and so did Philby, who was then in the Middle East, at a later date defect to the Soviet Union, under cover of night aboard a Soviet freighter.
RayC Sir...I am interested in reading more about intelligence stuff. Can you please mention the books you got this info from or any other good book ??

Thanks
I would highly recommend "The Mitrokhin Archive- The KGB in Europe and the West" which is available in bookstores across India. It's a fascinating account of spycraft and details the operations of the KGB in the US and Western Europe. You will find all the information you need about the Cambridge Five and the Atomic Spies in this book. All the information is based on KGB archives smuggled out of Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union by Vasili Mitrokhin, a KGB archivist.

And don't believe propaganda/disinformation which relates to the veracity of the book's contents. Most of the disinformation comes unsurprisingly from the Russian SVR.

There is also another book by Mitrokhin which details KGB penetration operations in the Third World, including India. It's in this book that a sensational claim was made that a "senior politician" who went on to become the prime minister of India was at one point a KGB informant.
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I would highly recommend "The Mitrokhin Archive- The KGB in Europe and the West" which is available in bookstores across India. It's a fascinating account of spycraft and details the operations of the KGB in the US and Western Europe. You will find all the information you need about the Cambridge Five and the Atomic Spies in this book. All the information is based on KGB archives smuggled out of Russia following the collapse of the Soviet Union by Vasili Mitrokhin, a KGB archivist.
Thank You very very much Abhishek 8)
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There is also another book by Mitrokhin which details KGB penetration operations in the Third World, including India. It's in this book that a sensational claim was made that a "senior politician" who went on to become the prime minister of India was at one point a KGB informant.
I think you are referring to "Mitrokhin archive -II : KGB and the world"

Have been trying to get hold of a pdf version of the same but no success so far ( managed to get a pdf of Mitrokhin archive - I and wolfed down the amazing book in no time)
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sunny y wrote:
Maclean and Burgess defected to the USSR and so did Philby, who was then in the Middle East, at a later date defect to the Soviet Union, under cover of night aboard a Soviet freighter.
RayC Sir...I am interested in reading more about intelligence stuff. Can you please mention the books you got this info from or any other good book ??

Thanks
There are too many books on the subject.

I was interested in this in my line of work and so I got it from official sources and what I could remember.

I am sure this would be on the internet too!

The Cambridge Five is a plum. It also indicates how the 'elite' is protected in the UK!
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sum there's a pdf in scribd with excerpts carrying the parts of interest to India.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/18053053/The- ... s-in-India

p.s. there's some other stuff by the uploader at the end. you can ignore it.
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Thanks a lot RayC sir & rahul sir :)
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Sunny y,

Hope this helps you:

1. Aldrich, Richard J. The Hidden Hand: Britain, America and Cold War Secret Intelligence – 2002
2. Ambrose, Stephen E. Ike's Spies: Eisenhower and the Intelligence Establishment – 1981
3. Andrew, Christopher and Vasili Mitrokhin The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive and the Secret History of the KGB Basic Books 1991, 2005 ISBN 0465003117
4. Andrew, Christopher, and Oleg Gordievsky KGB: The Inside Story of Its Foreign Operations from Lenin to Gorbachev – 1990
5. Aronoff, Myron J. The Spy Novels of John Le Carré: Balancing Ethics and Politics – 1999
6. Bissell, Richard Reflections of a Cold Warrior: From Yalta to the Bay of Pigs' – 1996
7. Bogle, Lori, ed. Cold War Espionage and Spying - 2001- essays
8. Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin The World Was Going Our Way: The KGB and the Battle for the Third World
9. Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin The Mitrokhin Archive: The KGB in Europe and the West Gardners Books 2000 ISBN 978-0-14-028487-4
10. Jim Colella My Life as an Italian Mafioso Spy – 2000
11. Dorril, Stephen MI6: Inside the Covert World of Her Majesty's Secret Intelligence Service – 2000
12. Dziak, John J. Chekisty: A History of the KGB – 1988
13. Gates, Robert M. From The Shadows: The Ultimate Insider's Story Of Five Presidents And How They Won The Cold War' – 1997
14. Frost, Mike and Michel Gratton Spyworld: Inside the Canadian and American Intelligence Establishments Doubleday Canada 1994
15. Haynes, John Earl, and Harvey Klehr Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America – 1999
16. Helms, Richard A Look over My Shoulder: A Life in the Central Intelligence Agency – 2003
17. Koehler, John O. Stasi: The Untold Story of the East German Secret Police' – 1999
18. Persico, Joseph Casey: The Lives and Secrets of William J. Casey-From the OSS to the CIA – 1991
19. Murphy, David E., Sergei A. Kondrashev, and George Bailey Battleground Berlin: CIA vs. KGB in the Cold War – 1997
20. Prados, John Presidents' Secret Wars: CIA and Pentagon Covert Operations Since World War II – 1996
21. Rositzke, Harry. The CIA's Secret Operations: Espionage, Counterespionage, and Covert Action – 1988
22. Srodes, James Allen Dulles: Master of Spies Regnery 2000 CIA head to 1961
23. Sontag Sherry, and Christopher Drew Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espinonage Harper 1998
24. Encyclopedia of Cold War Espionage, Spies and Secret Operations Greenwood Press/Questia 2004
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Thanks for the list Brig. Ray.

Just to add to the list that Brig. Ray has made.

Peter Wright's "Spy Catcher". (ISBN 0-670-82055-5).

The book was very controversial and was published with difficulty. First published in 1987 by Viking Penguin. Peter Wright was an Assistant Director at MI5 and was particularly involved in Counter Intelligence.

He suggests (actually believes) that Sir Roger Hollis, former head of MI5, was as Soviet mole - the so called 5th man, as Peter Wright says.

Interestingly Harold Wilson, the former PM, was also considered/ thought of as a Soviet agent by Peter Wright.

Very interesting read indeed. I bought it from the footpath at Daryaganj for Rs. 100/- in 2004. The seller was surprised that he actually found a buyer for the book!!

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^^^^Good book but too much of the prejudice of the writer comes into play in lots of parts. However, amazing info on the ingenious stuff the Brits and Soviets came up with.
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http://telegraphindia.com/1100209/jsp/f ... 083836.jsp
A Nepalese media baron with alleged links to Dawood Ibrahim and blamed for the backlash against actor Hrithik Roshan in the Himalayan country 10 years ago, was shot dead yesterday afternoon in Kathmandu by gunmen suspected to be from a breakaway faction of the Chhota Rajan gang.

Jamim Shah was shot dead in daylight by the motorcycle-borne attackers.

Sources in Nepal police said the two masked gunmen were “foreigners” who came to Nepal from India. They said evidence gathered so far indicated that the assailants monitored Shah’s day-to-day activities for sometime before making the hit.
A man who identified himself as Bharat Nepali, a former aide to Chhota Rajan, told a television network that he had planned and executed the murder because of Shah’s “anti-India activities”.

Nepali, said to be hailing from Delhi, claimed he had floated his own gang.
I hope the jingos have not forgotten the recent Week Magazine cover story on Nepal 8)

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If you are interested in the books, you might want to also read Victor Ostrovsky's book. Gives you a good picture of how mossad operates.
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Three 'RAW' agents arrested in Pakistan :rotfl:
Funny how they call a PUPPET - Defination, SOMEONE BEING CONTROLLED BY SOMEONE ELSE a RAW AGENT :idea:
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A man who identified himself as Bharat Nepali, a former aide to Chhota Rajan, told a television network that he had planned and executed the murder because of Shah’s “anti-India activities”.

Nepali, said to be hailing from Delhi, claimed he had floated his own gang.
Bharat Nepali...interesting name...
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