Indo-Israel: News and Discussion
Posted: 05 Jan 2008 20:20
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Just curious. May I take the liberty and request you. Please summarize in 4 or 5 sentences, the gist of your take from the travels, if possible. Thanks.None of the posters seem to have even visited Israel.
Anyway I have to get off my lazy ass and write up a bit on my travels
Ok just 5 lines.JwalaMukhi wrote:Surya wrote:Just curious. May I take the liberty and request you. Please summarize in 4 or 5 sentences, the gist of your take from the travels, if possible. Thanks.None of the posters seem to have even visited Israel.
Anyway I have to get off my lazy ass and write up a bit on my travels
Amen sir! A stint of army service seems to do wonders for even the frumpiest of the babushka genes. The way most of them jut their medal areas out with confidence makes me want to institute compulsory service for the slouch shouldered mallu "academic" girls.Surya wrote:Rudra Rudra -- if only you saw the wimen there!!!! Especially Tel Aviv
Sighhhhhhhhhhhh
But anyway came back to SHQ.
mukhi
To sum it up - Israelis are a cleaner , Jewish version of India.
Thats why one feels at home. Cantankerous, multi ethnic (nationality), diverse, pretty argumentative (not as much), bureacratic, things happening at their pace - all familiar to us.
Suffice to say - felt at home
Ok will write up tonite while watching the playoffs
Surya anna when it comes to Israel or any other country i dont care about how the women looks. I try to see if we can learn something from their culture. It would interesting if you could shed some light on-Surya wrote:Rudra Rudra -- if only you saw the wimen there!!!!
Anna when is this tonite going to come? Now you are acting like Ekta kapoor.Ok will write up tonite while watching the playoffs
I doubt in this cause, the taxes remained unchanged in Israel last years, even went down a bit. The cause of his departure is political I think. With the stagnation in peace process, the atmosphere in both Israeli buiseness and politics becomes to be gloom. Also the relations between the FSU immigrants community and the establishement gonna worse. Some political and economic pressure is felt from the Sabras beurocracy on the sectarian immigrant circles in economics. The Levayev's main buiseness is in Russia, with the diamont gigant "Alrosa" so he has many il wishers between pro-US Israeli esteblishement. In addition, he helped very much to the pro-Putin Russian chief rabbi Berl Lazar, giving a lot of money for the Russian Jewish community, fro Russian HABAD especially.Philip wrote:Israel's richest man,Lev Leviev, leaves for London for tax purposes.Many Israelis are doing the same.
Exactly how I felt when there, apart from the argumentative part. They are more so IMHO. Very voiciferous and opinionated.Surya wrote: To sum it up - Israelis are a cleaner , Jewish version of India.
Thats why one feels at home. Cantankerous, multi ethnic (nationality), diverse, pretty argumentative (not as much), bureacratic, things happening at their pace - all familiar to us.
1/17/2008 5:15:25 AM Thursday, Israel test fired a missile from the Palmahim air force base in the center of the country.
The Israeli Defense Ministry only said that the experiment tested the missile's rocket propulsion system, and was successful but did not provide details concerning the type of missile and the purpose it served.
Israel uses the Palmahim air force base to launch its various missiles, including the Arrow Missile Defense System and the Shavit satellite launcher.
January 13, 2008 – New York – The American Jewish Committee is deeply disturbed by Arun Gandhi’s derisive comments about Jews and the state of Israel in his blog on the Washington Post/Newsweek “On Faithâ€
This is something that has always bothered me. Maybe the gurus/Israelis on the forum can throw some gyaan (enlightenment) my way. The Jewish population in Israel is not growing as fast as the Palestinian and arab population nearby. A whole generation of arab and Palestinian children, right from birth, are indoctrinated on Jihad and grow up to be radicals (anyone remember the bizarre jihadi mickey mouse on youtube ? apparently it is a palestinian children's program - mickey singing the virtues of jihadshyamd wrote:Terrible situation for the israeli's to be in. It is getting tougher and tougher as the days go on.
Walls and fences.lakshmic wrote:My question is this. With a population deficit on the israeli side, with totally radicalized enemies whose capability is only increasing by the day on the arab and palestinian side, I am worried that the israelis have a far more bleak and difficult future. Do they recognize these factors ? What is their plan to tackle it ?
lakshmic wrote:This is something that has always bothered me. Maybe the gurus/Israelis on the forum can throw some gyaan (enlightenment) my way. The Jewish population in Israel is not growing as fast as the Palestinian and arab population nearby. A whole generation of arab and Palestinian children, right from birth, are indoctrinated on Jihad and grow up to be radicals (anyone remember the bizarre jihadi mickey mouse on youtube ? apparently it is a palestinian children's program - mickey singing the virtues of jihadshyamd wrote:Terrible situation for the israeli's to be in. It is getting tougher and tougher as the days go on.). The older, pragmatic arab and palestinian leadership is either dying or being sidelined.
Sriharikota (PTI): India on Monday successfully placed an Israeli "spy satellite" in the polar orbit after a textbook launch carried out under a veil of secrecy from the Sriharikota space station.
The homegrown Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV-C10) carrying the advanced 300-kg satellite TECSAR or Polaris as it is sometimes called lifted off flawlessly from the First Launch Pad (FLP) at the Satish Dhawan Space Centre at 0915 hours as scheduled, a statement by the Indian Space Research Organisation(ISRO) said here.
The commercial satellite, which has a Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR), an advanced radar system, was placed in its intended orbit in 19 minutes 45 seconds after a perfect lift-off, ISRO said.
The satellite is reported to be Israel's most advanced satellite and the radar system allows it to view much more than its existing Ofek satellites that use cameras.It can take pictures of small targets under cloudy and foggy conditions and carry out day and night and all weather imaging. The first pictures are expected to be beamed in two weeks.
It is expected to give a boost to Israel's intelligence gathering capabilities and help keep an eye on its hostile neighbours.( The "spy" satellite is of great importance to Israel as it will be able to track the goings-on in the territory of its main enemy Iran and its alleged efforts to develop nuclear arms, an AP report from Jerusalem said quoting Defence officials).
The satellite was placed its intended orbit with a Perigee (nearest point to earth) of 450 km and Apogee (farthest point to earth) of 580 km, the ISRO statement said.
"The TECSAR is the first satellite of its kind developed in Israel, and ranks among the world's most advanced space system," according to a statement by IAI.
The launch of the satellite was executed under a commercial contract between Israel Aerospace Industries (AIA) and Antrix Corporation, the release said. The decision by Israeal to take India's help was taken three years back.
TECSAR is a Synthetic Aperture Radar technology satellite, the design, development and fabrication of which were led by MBT Space, a division of the Israeli Aerospace industries with participation of other high-tech industries such as ELTA, Tadiran, Spectralink and Rafael.
This is the second time that a "core alone" PSLV configuration had put a foreign satellite into orbit, meaning only the main PSLV vehicle was used for the TECSAR launch. The additional strap-on engines or booster motors tot ake up more than 600 kg payloads of satellites were not used.
In April 2007, an Italian satellite Agile was put into orbit in such a configuration.
The launch of the radar-imaging, remote-sensing satellite, was shrouded in secrecy. The launch was originally scheduled in September 2007 though no date was specified.
A section of the media had speculated that the launch was abandoned following 'pressure' from some countries, a claim strongly denied by ISRO, which cited non-resolution of technical issues as the reason for the delay.
The above from 'Brit Bolloc** Corp'. I wonder who that Unamed Defense Analyst is and why he wants to remain unnamed. That sounds to me like a warning in the guise of News analysis.India launches Israeli satellite
Tecsar satellite
Officials say the satellite has already begun transmitting
India has successfully launched an Israeli spy satellite into orbit, officials at the Sriharikota space station in southern India say.
The Israeli press is reporting that the satellite will improve Israel's ability to monitor Iran's military activities.
Indian officials that given these sensitivities, the operation was secret and carried out under tight security.
The Tecsar satellite - sometimes referred to as the Polaris - was put into space on Monday morning.
'Sinister tie-up'
Tecsar is said to have enhanced footage technology, which allows it to transmit images regardless of daytime and weather conditions.
It is considered to be one of the most advanced spy satellites that India has put into orbit to date.
India is eager to compete in the world space technology market
Correspondents say the launch was the second commercial mission on behalf of another country that has been carried out by the Indian Space Research Organisation.
"It was a grand success," an unnamed official told the AFP news agency from the southern state of Andhra Pradesh.
Israeli newspapers reported that both Israeli and Indian space engineers were at the launch, and that 80 minutes afterwards, the Israel Aerospace Industries' (IAI) ground station began receiving Tecsar's first signals.
The 300kg (650-pound) satellite is reported to be Israel's most advanced space craft, and equipped with a camera that can take pictures in almost any weather conditions.
Israel reportedly took the decision to launch the satellite from India three years ago, and asked for Delhi's help because it lacks a vehicle capable of boosting the satellite into a polar orbit.
"The kind of low-earth polar orbit they are putting the satellite into, it is meant to give Israel the capability to keep an eye on the Iranian nuclear programme," an unnamed defence analyst told the AFP news agency.
"This is bound to be seen in the Islamic world as a sinister tie-up between Israel and India," he said.
Experts also say that the launch is an "important milestone" in the commercialisation of India's 45-year-old space programme, which put an Italian satellite in orbit in April last year for a fee of $11m.
Correspondents say that India is eager to compete against the US, Russia, China, the Ukraine and the European Space Agency in providing commercial satellite launch services, a market worth about $2.5bn a year.
India started its space programme in 1963, and has since designed, built and launched its own satellites into space.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? ... 2FShowFullThe successful launch on Monday of an advanced Israeli satellite was delayed in recent months by Iranian sabotage, The Jerusalem Post has learned from Western sources.
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According to assessments recently received, Iran learned of the TecSar's planned deployment from the media and has since applied heavy pressure through Indian opposition parties - particularly the Muslim and Communist political factions - to prevent the launch.
http://www2.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-2 ... 233300.htmThe successful launch of Israeli spy satellite Polaris by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) on Monday came under sharp attack from the Left which has sought an explanation from the government on the scope of this space cooperation.
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"We have been cautioning the UPA government on deepening military ties with Israel. This sends a wrong message to the Palestinian people that India has abandoned their cause. We will seek an explanation from the government on this new space cooperation," said Communist Party of India national secretary D. Raja, an Indian English daily reported here.
Meanwhile, stating that it is not against friendship with any foreign country, Samajwadi Party Rajya Sabha MP Shahid Siddiqui said they are appalled at this close relationship between India and Israel, which is still occupying large tracts of Palestinian land thereby denying millions of people their basic human right of having a nation of their own.
Wah.. that is true chankyan-ness JE sir.I just hope the commies and groups who were engaged got enough money from Tehran for the noise they made. Every dollar that comes into India or Indian hands enhances our power, one way or another.