India-Australia News and Discussion

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 15 Sep 2009 13:05

Wow, this is spectacular. Indians should take Australian general public to the court to stop these attack and make them pay millions of $$ per person as compensation for physical and traumatic experience that their dear Australians have given them.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Aus-safet ... 54115.aspx

Oh yes, I forgot to mention where are those Mira Nayar typo Bollywood directors who always are keen to show what was wrong with Indian society. Why dont these aholes make a movie on racial problems in Australia or elsewhere !!

kaiser · Post by **kaiser** » 15 Sep 2009 17:35

I can bet money on it, Aussie government is behind these attacks.

archan · Post by **archan** » 15 Sep 2009 17:54

Wow, 70 people getting together and beating up three. And I thought this was a more advanced, more developed society. Guess not. Ackkkk thoo.

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 16 Sep 2009 15:23

kaiser wrote:I can bet money on it, Aussie government is behind these attacks.

Are you a retard?

ashish raval · Post by **ashish raval** » 16 Sep 2009 15:49

I strongly believe that Government of India should issue an severe travel advisory to Indian students in Australia clearly stating that Xenophobic attacks are common in Australia and there has been in ___ and ___ number of attacks on Indian students reported to police. GoI should bring a lawsuit against Victorian police to deliberately not stopping these attacks. Imagine what would have happened if so many Australians are attacked in India. I reckon it would have been on TIME front page. I pity GoI who acts like a sheep on the issue. I acknowledge that India dont have any friends in the world (except Russia to some extent), Aussies knows it and gives and a** on the issue. It is not an overstatement to say that every Tom, Dick and Harry can take p** on India. We need a leader which can bring India's "Asmita" (true identity) back.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 17 Sep 2009 23:45

cross posted:
Insult to injury: Now, Aus PM warns Indian students

Canberra, Sept 17:

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has warned Indian students living in Australia not to take the law into their own hands.
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India has urged Australia to put in place quickly promised measures to protect overseas students.

Rudd said Australia was a law-abiding nation.

"The laws are there for a purpose {Yeah right}and that is for all citizens to adhere to them," he said.

When asked what message he had for anyone who took the law into their own hands, Rudd said: "People should not".

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 17 Sep 2009 23:48

Found this on ze internet a while back......

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 19 Sep 2009 06:51

Everyone in the world is aware of rampant human rights violation that occur in Australia, perhaps with the connivance of Australian government. But since Australia is a white country, no white country is going to raise its voice during UN meetings against Australia. And brown countries carry very little weight on the world stage. Indian students are being attacked in the broad day light. Aboriginal people have been reduced to drugs and homelessness. World needs to condemn what goes on in Australia.

ss_roy · Post by **ss_roy** » 19 Sep 2009 07:35

Nothing chinese colonization (and population replacement) won't fix.

Everyone in the world is aware of rampant human rights violation that occur in Australia, perhaps with the connivance of Australian government. But since Australia is a white country, no white country is going to raise its voice during UN meetings against Australia. And brown countries carry very little weight on the world stage. Indian students are being attacked in the broad day light. Aboriginal people have been reduced to drugs and homelessness. World needs to condemn what goes on in Australia.

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Sep 2009 12:49

A case of the pot calling the kettle black. Visit of head of Australia’s State of Victoria John Brumby to India to assure us Indian’s that Victoria, after a string of assaults on Indians, is safe for Indian’s to visit disrupted as Mumbai is deemed unsafe for Brumby to visit

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Australian official cancels Mumbai trip over attack fears

And for good measure to get India’s attention that the State of Victoria really could not care less about the security of Indian’s residing there terms the latest attacker of an Indian “a good kid”

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Hurley, a good kid: Brumby

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Sep 2009 13:18

One can hope that the Congress led UPA Government has what it takes to walk the talk purportedly delivered by our Overseas Indian Affairs Minister. Let us make a start by issuing no visa’s and revoking those that have been issued to Australian players in the IPL:

Tough talk on Aussie attacks

JAYANTH JACOB

New Delhi, Sept. 25: An Indian minister today shed some of the usual diplomatic niceties to tell a high-ranking Australian delegation that Delhi was running out of patience with the continuing attacks on Indians in Australia, officials present at the meeting said.

Overseas Indian affairs minister Vayalar Ravi met Victoria Premier John Brumby, minister for skill and workplace Jacinta Allan and Australian ambassador Peter Varghese on a day a drunken Australian football star beat up an Indian taxi driver in Melbourne.

According to sources, Ravi said India had so far agreed to see the attacks as stray law-and-order incidents and had kept bilateral ties foremost on its mind while reacting, but that position was now becoming untenable.

The minister stressed the racist angle and cited how the attacks were continuing despite Australian assurances about taking strong measures to stop them. He cited the recent attack on three Indians in a bar and said the level of racial bias and “insensitivity” was reflected in the fact that 90 people watched the incident without coming to the Indians’ aid. ………………..

Telegraph

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Sep 2009 03:14

The racist Aussies are turning out to be strategic enemy ,abusing Indians and kissing Chineese feet on par with Pakistanis . They are selling Uranium to PRC knowing well that they have been proliferating Nukes. If push ever came to shove with Pukes and Chinese with strategic weapons usage , these folks should be kept in same euqation so they can enjoy the consequences of their evil karma .

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 27 Sep 2009 05:50

kaiser wrote:I can bet money on it, Aussie government is behind these attacks.

Considering the Victorian premier's statement, you may be right. But have all the attacks happened in Victoria?

Ameet · Post by **Ameet** » 05 Oct 2009 10:34

Indians bash up two Australians following racial abuse

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story ... l+row.html

Melbourne October 5, 2009

Two locals, who allegedly abused a group of Indians and vandalised their car, were bashed up by them here, police said on Monday.

The incident took place at a carpark outside Meadowglen International Athletics Stadium in Epping when a local skateboarder damaged the rear window of a car belonging to an Indian.

The skateboarder also used the abusive language against some Indians who were coming out of the stadium where a Kabaddi match had ended on Sunday night.

"Associates of the people, whose car was damaged, came to their assistance. Two men were assaulted and hit with sticks in the brawl. These two injured men were from the group outside who had allegedly started to verbally abuse the people from the vehicle," police said in a statement.

The two men, aged 25 and 42, were taken to Northern Hospital with minor injuries, they said. However, no arrests have been made and the incident was under investigations, police told PTI.

"A lot of people were leaving, the presentations were on at the time, I spoke to one of the boys that was there and he said a guy had smashed the rear window of a car that was leaving," Councillor from the City of Darebin Tim Singh, who was present at the medal presentations ceremony for Kabaddi tournament, was quoted as saying by the media.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 05 Oct 2009 10:57

Indians bash up two Australians following racial abuse

some good news at last from australia.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 05 Oct 2009 19:23

I have not seen or heard any news on US media about this pervasive Aussie boorish behavior. Not that they should cover it, but imagine the same #of white Aussies being beaten up, and seriouly injured (any Indians killed so far?) in India. It would be front page news all over US. But the reason I bring this up, is that it was hilarious watching an ad on Fox for former Aussie PM, forget his name, to oppose talks with Iran. Give me a f$%^&*ng break. Who bloody cares what a bunch of outback rednecks from down inder think about non proliferation; telll them civilize themselves first.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 05 Oct 2009 23:46

Gerard wrote:Labor resurrects Howard's uranium plan

Ozzies are opening it up around the time China's Westinghouse developed Nooklear power plants (NPP) are set to be operational (2012-2013).

Other read
There are 10 nuclear power plants (31 power-generating units) in Russia, and they generate 16pc of the country’s total electricity supply. By 2015 there will be 40 power-generating units, providing a quarter of all electricity.
In China, NPPs produce 2.3pc of domestic output; in the US it’s 20pc, and in France, 80pc. Over the next few years, China plans to construct about 100 plants, while the US hopes to build twice as many.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 06 Oct 2009 00:10

CRamS wrote:I have not seen or heard any news on US media about this pervasive Aussie boorish behavior. Not that they should cover it, but imagine the same #of white Aussies being beaten up, and seriouly injured (any Indians killed so far?) in India. It would be front page news all over US. But the reason I bring this up, is that it was hilarious watching an ad on Fox for former Aussie PM, forget his name, to oppose talks with Iran. Give me a f$%^&*ng break. Who bloody cares what a bunch of outback rednecks from down inder think about non proliferation; telll them civilize themselves first.

These incidents reminds me of that Australian movie "Romper Stomper" in which skinheads attack Vietnamese students and then how Vietnamese react. Checkout the entire video on YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz-2_BjS ... re=related

Romper Stomper is a 1992 Australian film written and directed by Geoffrey Wright, starring Russell Crowe, Daniel Pollock, Jacqueline McKenzie and Tony Lee. The film follows the exploits and downfall of a neo-Nazi skinhead group in blue-collar suburban Melbourne.

Romper Stomper is the story of a gang of violent neo-Nazi skinheads from Footscray, Victoria, Australia, led by Hando (Russell Crowe) and his friend Davey (Daniel Pollock). The plot centres around the pair's relationship with the rich, sex-obsessed drug addict Gabrielle (Jacqueline McKenzie), who falls in love with Hando after meeting him the day after her sexually abusive father, Martin (Alex Scott), has her junkie boyfriend beaten up.
After joining forces with another group of racist skinheads visiting from Canberra, Hando's gang beat up two Vietnamese youths. A third Vietnamese youth phones for help, and several car-loads of armed Vietnamese men descend on the skinheads. The Vietnamese men eventually outnumber the skinheads and force them to retreat to their rented warehouse (that is located on Bunbury Street right next to the Bunbury Street bridge), which the attackers set on fire.

rahulm · Post by **rahulm** » 06 Oct 2009 03:53

This time the Aussies took on Indian kabbadi wrestlers and lost

"An allegedly racist group of skaters got their ‘‘just desserts’’ when they took on a car filled with Indian wrestlers in Melbourne’s north yesterday."

"The wrestlers were leaving a kabaddi tournament in Epping when the skater began abusing them in the carpark of the Meadowglen International Athletics Stadium about 5.30pm."

The Government and police have to rein in this racist behaviour very quickly to restore confidence in the Indian community. While, its a feel good factor that the perpetrators got their just comeuppance, vigilante justice has its own perils.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 07 Oct 2009 02:48

DIEs soiling their pants

Indian leaders urge restraint (WTF gave them the right to call themselves Indian leaders)

MELBOURNE: Indian leaders here on Monday counselled the community to remain calm and follow the Gandhian way after a dust-up between Indians and locals left two Australians injured. The leaders said the Indians had acted only “in self-defence.”

Two Australians were admitted to hospital on Sunday night, having been beaten up by Indians whose car was vandalised and who were racially taunted. The incident took place at a car park outside the Meadowglen International Athletics Stadium in Epping when a local skateboarder damaged the rear window of a car belonging to Indians leaving the venue.

Srinivas Vasan, president of the Federation of Indian Association of Victoria, pointed to Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd’s appeal to people to abide by the law. “I’m not saying what has happened is correct but we should not take the law into our hands. We belong to Mahatma Gandhi’s country, and we should follow non-violence.” Gautam Gupta of the Federation of Indian Students Association described the incident as “bullying” and said: “It was the handiwork of people who don’t understand multicultural society.” “Police should punish the culprit.” — PTI

nithish · Post by **nithish** » 14 Oct 2009 21:41

Stephen Smith aims for India war game

THE Rudd government is pushing to rebuild its defence ties with India, risking the potential ire of China by formally requesting Australia be allowed to participate in the annual India-US joint naval exercise Malabar.

Visiting Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said yesterday he had discussed the possibility of Australia rejoining the massive war games exercise during his meeting with his Indian counterpart, S.M. Krishna, this week.

He also invited India to participate in multilateral Australian Defence Force-hosted exercises Kakadu and Pitch Black.
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Mr Smith said that while Australia enjoyed a good defence, security and counter-terrorism relationship with India, the Rudd government was keen to enhance that. The Royal Australian Navy did send several frigates to the Malabar 2007 exercises, which that year also involved Singapore and Japan.

But analysts say the Australian government was concerned its participation in an exercise obviously intended by the US to be a foil to China's strategic military might could offend one of our largest trading partners.

The push to rejoin the Malabar exercises comes in the wake of the Rudd government's controversial defence white paper, which called for a build-up of naval capacity and appeared to suggest Australian defence strategy in coming decades would be shaped by China's military expansion.

Australian Strategic Policy Institute defence analyst Raspal Khosa said while rejoining Malabar was a sensitive issue, "we also want to develop and expand our military relationship with the Indians".

However "the sticking point from the Indian perspective will be uranium".

"They look to us to provide them with commodities and energy and uranium is really at the front of their minds when they do engage with Australia," Mr Khosa said.

"They want an assured supply and they will use that certainly as leverage on things like allowing us to participate in the Malabar exercise."

Australia's defence relationship with India suffered after India's 1998 nuclear weapons tests, which drew loud criticism from the Howard government.

Australia withdrew its defence attaches from both Pakistan and India.

The relationship was also damaged by an incident in the Indian Ocean in which an Australian Orion aircraft in 1997 buzzed INS Delhi, the pride of India's naval fleet, as it headed into Southeast Asian waters.
----- buzzed?
The push to mend defence fences with India comes as the federal government also attempts to repair damage to the Indian-Australian relationship caused by a series of attacks on Indian students in Australia.

Mr Smith said yesterday that while the attacks had not hurt the bilateral relationship, Australia's reputation had been damaged among sections of the Indian public and the government was looking at ways to repair that damage.

Australia had neglected its relationship with India in the past, treating it as a "Twenty20 game, not a Test match", but it could no longer afford to be complacent.

tejas · Post by **tejas** » 15 Oct 2009 08:00

The poodle plane was definitely was aggressively trailing the INS Delhi hoping to pick up radar signatures. I for one wished warning shots had been fired. Following this, The undiplomatic language used by these British penal colony descendants against India following PoK II made me furious.

Their refusal to sell India uranium while happily supplying it to the mass murders in China should be the last straw. The GOI should tell the Manchurian candidate Rudd to go play soldier with China.

If he's lucky NoKo will come and play too. We cannot retaliate against Unkil for his freebies given to the
pukes yet. We should be able to take on poodles like Australia by now. I remember some Rudd underling telling the Australian press that the GOI was not upset that Rudd was reversing former PM Howard's decision to sell uranium to India. We need to make them eat those words. India is not Guatemala

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 15 Oct 2009 08:45

Interesting way to make the point. As Kissinger once said of India, Australia is not going to turn communist out of pique. GOI should make its displeasure explicit by withholding joint excercises.

I am sure Australia's real intention anyway is to secure as much data as possible on IN assets.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 18 Oct 2009 05:18

Australia getting contaminated:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091017/sc ... 1017064343

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 20 Oct 2009 06:19

AUSTRALIA may think the world of itself but the world does not think as much of it, at least not when it comes to a business environment, culture and social welfare, says a poll of citizens of the eight largest economies.

Foreigners rated Australia for its world-class lifestyle but marked it down as a place to do business, the quality of its products and services, its government and its contribution to the global economy, a survey by a think tank, the Reputation Institute, found.

http://www.watoday.com.au/business/our- ... -h514.html

(There is a lot of truth in this story. A lots of people in western world consider Australia a redneck country.)

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 20 Oct 2009 18:55

Karan Dixit wrote:AUSTRALIA may think the world of itself but the world does not think as much of it, at least not when it comes to a business environment, culture and social welfare, says a poll of citizens of the eight largest economies.

Foreigners rated Australia for its world-class lifestyle but marked it down as a place to do business, the quality of its products and services, its government and its contribution to the global economy, a survey by a think tank, the Reputation Institute, found.

http://www.watoday.com.au/business/our- ... -h514.html

(There is a lot of truth in this story. A lots of people in western world consider Australia a redneck country.)

Looks like Aussies are going back to their ancestral instincts. Remember who were the first settlers of Australia, prisoners from England. Due to the overcrowded prisons in England, prisoners were sent to Australia to lessen the burden on her Majesty's coffers.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Oct 2009 19:03

^^ All Aussies are not descendants of some criminal race. Fact is there is nothing called a criminal race. Lets not brand an entire race. It goes against the logic, plurality and all that India/ Bharat stands for.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 20 Oct 2009 19:35

All Aussies are not descendants of some criminal race. Fact is there is nothing called a criminal race. Lets not brand an entire race.

Agreed. Just an emotional outbreak

In terms of law, order, and governance it is relatively on better grounds. Kevin Rudd's apology was a prudent response.

all that India/ Bharat stands for.

By the way, what does India/Bharat stand for? Last time when I checked the manual, I couldn't find anything that mentions it "assertively " stood for anything. Is it "peace" (for whom)? Never take other's land (but allow others take her)? Non-discrimination (while nourishing thousands of castes and sects for its own people)? Wonder, what countries like Australia stand for?

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 20 Oct 2009 19:39

what does India/Bharat stand for?

I cannot really explain that..but we can certainly apply a little 'neti neti' logic and understand what it does not imply.. and tarring an entire race with one broad stroke is certainly one thing India does not stand for..

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 20 Oct 2009 20:18

harbans wrote:^^ All Aussies are not descendants of some criminal race. Fact is there is nothing called a criminal race. Lets not brand an entire race. It goes against the logic, plurality and all that India/ Bharat stands for.

Not descendants of a criminal race for sure but definitely the bulk of the local and original aussie populace is originally descended from the lower socioeconomic strata and dregs of the english society.

This is invariably the bunch that is bigoted and racist. The poorer immigrants usually enter the labor force by targeting the same unskilled or marginally skilled jobs and vocations that this bunch normally consider that they have a monopoly on.

This is also one big reason for economically disadvantaged locals or other similar impoverished immigrants ( lebanese?) to gang up on Indians.

The Indians who go to australia could not get into the us of a ( even if they donated their bodies to science)

These less qualified Indians often compete and and many times take away low paying local jobs from the aussies or other immigrants because they are willing to work for less money.

Such Indians seem to have very little idea of keeping a low profile or even the necessity and advantages of maintaining a low profile.

Like the ugly american, is this a manifestation of the ugly Indian?

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 22 Oct 2009 05:14

I could never understand the rationale for Australia's presence in Afghanistan. They are neither part of NATO nor can they make any difference on the ground with their presence. So, what is the point?

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091021/wl ... 1021003827

SYDNEY (AFP) – Australia's defence minister Wednesday said he was hoping to wrap up military operations in Afghanistan as soon as possible, despite US and NATO moves for more troops to shore up the campaign.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 22 Oct 2009 05:20

Karan Dixit wrote:I could never understand the rationale for Australia's presence in Afghanistan. They are neither part of NATO nor can they make any difference on the ground with their presence. So, what is the point?

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091021/wl ... 1021003827

SYDNEY (AFP) – Australia's defence minister Wednesday said he was hoping to wrap up military operations in Afghanistan as soon as possible, despite US and NATO moves for more troops to shore up the campaign.

Think of it as the retarded and somewhat vicious little brother having to be made to feel like he has a role to play in big brother's games.

andy B · Post by **andy B** » 22 Oct 2009 05:25

chetak wrote: The Indians who go to australia could not get into the us of a ( even if they donated their bodies to science) These less qualified Indians often compete and and many times take away low paying local jobs from the aussies or other immigrants because they are willing to work for less money.

Errr...Chetak saar by the above logique I and many of my other Indian friends who immigrated here should quit our office jobs and start working as supermarket trolley pushers and parking attendants and also quit my post grad CFA studies (which incidentally is an amrikhan designation)

arnab · Post by **arnab** » 22 Oct 2009 05:28

EXPANDING LINKS WITH CHINA AND INDIA

Indian born Australians were almost three times as likely as other Australians to have a Bachelor degree or above, while the Chinese born were almost twice as likely. Among Indian born Australians aged 25-64 years, 34% had a Bachelor degree, and a further 26% had a postgraduate qualification as their highest qualification. Of the Chinese born, 25% had a Bachelor degree as their highest qualification and 16% had a postgraduate level qualification. In contrast, for all other Australians aged 25-64 years, 16% had a Bachelor degree, while less than 4% had postgraduate qualifications.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf ... 10Sep+2009

Nihat · Post by **Nihat** » 23 Oct 2009 13:06

Finally, some sort of justice for Sukhraj

Judge Pamela Jenkins said Friday the group had deliberately targeted victims of Indian ethnicity in the "unprovoked rampage". She sentenced one of the attackers, Zakarie Hussein, 21, to four-and-a-half years' jail with a minimum non-parole period of two years.

"Your victims presented no threat to you or your co-offenders whatsoever. They did not provoke you, they did not fight back and indeed they made every effort to escape from the assaults," she was quoted as saying.

"Notwithstanding these circumstances the victims were beaten apparently for the sheer thrill, Mr Singh being subjected to a particularly savage beating with the terrible consequences for him."

Judge Jenkins said the assault was among a number of racist attacks that had rightly provoked international and local community outrage and should be condemned.

"Short of becoming prisoners in their own homes, there is little potential victims can do to prevent such attacks," she said.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/australian-j ... ml?from=tn

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 23 Oct 2009 13:30

rudd is a graduate summa cum laude of beijing's han school of management !

http://publication.samachar.com/pub_art ... id=6139705

‘Maniacal’ Aus PM Kevin Rudd is a ‘boss from hell’, say fleeing staffers!

Published on Sat 17th Oct 2009 12:15:06

Canberra, Oct. 16: Less than two years after Kevin Rudd took office as the Australian Prime Minister, more than half of his staff has left the cabinet.

Rudd, who had promised to rid Australia of workplace bullies, is described as “manic” by his staff, as he has emerged as a very “demanding” employer.

“He's demanding and a bit all over the place,” News.com.au quoted one former staffer of the PM, as saying.

Another said: “He gives little in the way of constructive feedback. And he just doesn't listen to anybody.”

At least 23 of 39 staff have left Rudd's office at a time when the next election is just one year away. Sources said more are set to follow suit.

In recent weeks, four senior advisors - including Jack Lake, a 25-year parliamentary veteran - have announced their departures, raising questions on Rudd’s office management skills.

paulm · Post by **paulm** » 23 Oct 2009 18:35

BTW, these guys were Somali immigrants/refugees..

Nihat wrote:Finally, some sort of justice for Sukhraj

Judge Pamela Jenkins said Friday the group had deliberately targeted victims of Indian ethnicity in the "unprovoked rampage". She sentenced one of the attackers, Zakarie Hussein, 21, to four-and-a-half years' jail with a minimum non-parole period of two years.

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/australian-j ... ml?from=tn

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 23 Oct 2009 21:19

paulm wrote:BTW, these guys were Somali immigrants/refugees..

Pray tell how is it relevant that they are Somali immigrants/refugees? If they are not Australian citizens then Australia has the option to deport them. If they are Australian citizens then why refer to their ethnic background for hate crimes committed against Indians in Australia by Australian citizen's. Are all the perpetrators of hate crimes committed against Indians in Australia of Somali background? This is just another way of sweeping under the rug the real issues of racial and xenophobic tendencies among Australians.

paulm · Post by **paulm** » 24 Oct 2009 04:34

Lets imagine that there were a series of attacks on Australians in India by criminal youths from the Muslim community, and the Australian newsmedia and populace reacted by bitterly denouncing Hindu Fundamentalist India's fascist tendencies.
Certainly any assault is a criminal act and should be punished by the courts, but the angry rhetoric I have read regarding convicts, white supremacy etc. seems to stand at odds with the ancestry of many (but by no means all) of the attackers.

As far as I can tell, the attacks are largely the actions of youth gangs from deprived backgrounds who are picking on people who are traveling via public transport through economically backward areas late at night. Hopefully more arrests and convictions of these criminals will continue in the months to come, and I see no reason why it should effect relations between India and Australia in areas of common interest.

BijuShet wrote:
paulm wrote:BTW, these guys were Somali immigrants/refugees..
Pray tell how is it relevant that they are Somali immigrants/refugees? If they are not Australian citizens then Australia has the option to deport them. If they are Australian citizens then why refer to their ethnic background for hate crimes committed against Indians in Australia by Australian citizen's. Are all the perpetrators of hate crimes committed against Indians in Australia of Somali background? This is just another way of sweeping under the rug the real issues of racial and xenophobic tendencies among Australians.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Oct 2009 08:24

paulm,

the origins of the gandus who did the attacks throws new light on the whole thing.

The oz police denying any racial angle, then attempting to sweep the BS under the carpet, then making audacious claims about the greatness of oz society and culture etc was jarring. If whites were the victims, i suspect the response would have been less patronizing.

It led to an outpuring of web rants and anger. big deal. So what?

Let oz show more such arrests and convictions. Then we'll reconsider our view of ozzie society, perhaps.