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chetak wrote: 30 Jan 2024 22:13 ....
Rakesh ji will sleep soundly tonight. He likes things well ordered and identified on his forum.
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Well then here's a thought to keep him awake... and tear his hair in frustration..

"Why for India also not having such a ship hain? After all we will soon have the Ospreys saar... and the F35s too saar. Quick someone draw up the GSQRs saar. Prepare the RFIs saar"

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https://x.com/CcibChris/status/1756787272999903645?s=20 ---> Goodnight all….Rafale M just launched.

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A credible deterrent? Trident missile fails during test launch from HMS Vanguard
https://www.navylookout.com/a-credible- ... -vanguard/
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Australia To Bet Big On Heavily Armed, Optionally Crewed Warships
https://www.twz.com/sea/australia-to-be ... d-warships
20 Feb 2024
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Naval Chiefs including Indian Navy Chief Admiral Hari Kumar at Raisina Dialogue 2024 talk about free naval access and keeping shipping lanes free and clear.

A short YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-e5NPOTOck

Longer full version YT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1YERh13f2Y
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http://www.hisutton.com/Iranian-Houthi-ASBM.html

First Image Of Iranian / Houthi Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM) In Action

IMO, scary. Terminal guidance on a BM available to an irregular group! Are navies ready?
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The short ranged systems don't have the terminal speed to bother a mid range air defence system.

The PLA Df 17 and Df 26 are now looking scary, as those things have the performance to bother high end air defence systems.
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Click on link below for the Twitter thread...

https://x.com/Saturnax1/status/1762365606999834681?s=20 ---> The Taiwanese Navy's indigenous defense submarine Hai Kun (711) moving from its yard to the Jong Shyn 8 floating dock for anticipated trials. Note the X-rudder configuration (photo 2), countermeasures dispensing ports (photo 3) and flank sonar array (photo 4). Photos & info via @CollinSLKoh
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The German navy doesn't want the Brits to have all the glory...

German navy almost shot down US drone over Red Sea
A German naval frigate sent to protect commercial ships in the Red Sea nearly shot down a US drone by accident, German media reported on Wednesday.

Ministry spokesman Michael Stempfle said, "The case was resolved when it turned out that it wasn't a hostile drone, which only became clear in hindsight."

Fortunately, two missiles fired at the drone missed their target and crashed into the sea due to "a technical defect," :lol: according to Der Spiegel news magazine, which also claimed that the UAV in question was a US Reaper reconnaissance drone.
The missiles were reportedly the SM-2 missiles.
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Royal Navy might have to sell off £3,500,000,000 HMS Prince of Wales aircraft carrier

Navy might have to sell off £3,500,000, ... ft carrier

Does IN want to buy a nearly new aircraft carrier?
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rajkumar wrote: 29 Feb 2024 15:19 Royal Navy might have to sell off £3,500,000,000 HMS Prince of Wales aircraft carrier
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Does IN want to buy a nearly new aircraft carrier?
Why aren't they gifting it to Ukraine...
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https://x.com/nicholadrummond/status/17 ... 29101?s=20 ---> The Italian LHD Trieste is a multi-role carrier that displaces 38,0000 tonnes. She carries 12 EH-101 helicopters or F-35Bs. As well as performing a LHD role, she has a well deck for amphibious operations, or can be used as a hospital ship. Built at a cost of €1.2 billion, she has the same RR MT30 gas turbines as the UK's QE Class. She has 460 crew. For protection, there are 3 x 76mm AA guns, 3 x 25mm AA cannons, plus 2 x 8-cell VLS tubes with up to 32 CAMM ER missiles. Super impressive and amazing value, she is an ideal vessel for marine forces.

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Hanwha Ocean And Babcock Sign Submarine Business Teaming Agreement
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... agreement/
01 March 2024
Hanwha Ocean has teamed up with the UK's Babcock International Group, marking a significant step forward with the signing of a 'Teaming Agreement' in Warsaw, Poland.
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https://x.com/Capt_Navy/status/1763556218814030047?s=20 ---> A sight no sailor wants to see! Here, a Mk48 torpedo passing under a Dealey Class destroyer escort USS Bridget (DE-1024) during an exercise in 1972.

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The Netherlands Select Naval Group For Its New Submarines
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ubmarines/
15 March 2024
The Dutch government announced today it has "provisionally selected" French shipbuilder Naval Group to build its future submarines as part of the Walrus-class replacement program.
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Australia Selects BAE Systems And ASC To Build SSN-AUKUS
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... ssn-aukus/
21 March 2024
The Australian Government has selected BAE Systems and ASC Pty Ltd to build Australia's new fleet of nuclear powered submarines in the latest significant development in the AUKUS trilateral security pact between the United States, the United Kingdom and Australia.
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Myanmar equips second Kyan Sit Thar-class frigate with Indian-made radar - Ridzwan Rahmat/Janes
The Revathi radar is capable of multiple target tracking and has an integrated identification friend-or-foe (IFF) facility. It is believed to have a maximum range of about 180 km, with elevation coverage of up to 18,000 m.
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Indonesia Moving Closer to ‘Scorpene Evolved’ Submarine Deal
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... rine-deal/
29 March 2024
In recent weeks, interactions between Naval Group and the Indonesian Ministry of Defence, Navy (TNI AL), as well as defence industry have intensified, suggesting a growing momentum towards the potential signing of a contract for two Scorpene Evolved Submarines.
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https://x.com/navalgroup/status/1775085 ... 31735?s=20 ---> Naval Group and @PTPAL_INDONESIA have signed a contract with @Kemhan_RI for two 'Scorpène® Evolved' LiB submarines, to be built in Indonesia through ToTs from Naval Group in order to strengthen the capabilities of the @_TNIAL_ .

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Enjoy the drama.

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wasn't there a QUAD thing already?

All the Anglos are desperate to make India a Ukraine against China
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Manish_P wrote: 09 Apr 2024 11:56 wasn't there a QUAD thing already?

All the Anglos are desperate to make India a Ukraine against China
So that the Anglos can sell their wares to India. Then the MUTUs (aka Brown Sahibs) are brought on board to sell those wares to India.

Same thing happened in the SEF thread in BRF i.e. Military alliance with Amreeka will lead to peace & prosperity (for Amreeka). F-16 Block 70/72 will revolutionize India's Aerospace Industry. For every one job at the TATA assembly factory (doing screwdrivergiri on F-16) will translate into four other jobs in India. Ache Din for India. Really sad that BRF was obtuse, suffered from information resistance and could not see the 'BIG' picture. It would have been a D-E-E-P relationship onlee.

Now the new hope has come about in a possible AUKUS alliance. The video clearly indicates what India will do in such an alliance, but will still shamelessly peddle it on BRF. Quoting Ted Kennedy ---> "...the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die." :mrgreen:
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Rakesh wrote: 09 Apr 2024 16:28
Manish_P wrote: 09 Apr 2024 11:56 wasn't there a QUAD thing already?

All the Anglos are desperate to make India a Ukraine against China
So that the Anglos can sell their wares to India. Then the MUTUs (aka Brown Sahibs) are brought on board to sell those wares to India.
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We are buying their wares already aren't we... C17s, Apaches, engines for the Tejas, C295s, P8s, Rafales, Scorpenes, SiG 716s,...

This relentless push for 'upgrade' from 'buyer-seller' to 'coalition partner' is purely to get India committed to being the front on the battle fields & waters... we are just to far from the atlantic ocean else they would have said India will be part of NATO (NAIOTO)
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Manish_P wrote: 09 Apr 2024 20:16 We are buying their wares already aren't we... C17s, Apaches, engines for the Tejas, C295s, P8s, Rafales, Scorpenes, SiG 716s,...

This relentless push for 'upgrade' from 'buyer-seller' to 'coalition partner' is purely to get India committed to being the front on the battle fields & waters... we are just to far from the atlantic ocean else they would have said India will be part of NATO (NAIOTO).
G2G deals of C-17, Apaches, P-8Is, engines for Tejas, SiG 716s are not equated with a military alliance. A US-led military alliance is a whole other cup of tea and comes with a geopolitical baggage that India does not need at all, especially during her metoric rise. India's rise must be managed by Indians alone and certainly not by the US. Signing up for an AUKUS-type alliance will also result in India getting involved in nation building and freedom activities (i.e. Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, etc) and needs to be avoided with a barge pole. We are not going to get the crown jewel (nuclear reactor technology) in AUKUS anyway and the video made that amply clear.

I purposefully left out C-295, Rafales, Scorpenes and other such non-US kit from above, as no one has been as forceful on a military alliance as the United States has. And that is not because of any undying love successive US Administrations have had towards India, but rather to limit/curb India's choices from purchasing arms from other nations. Tying India to a US-led military alliance would have resulted in the F-18SH for the MRCBF contest and a US bird for the MRFA contest (if it comes to fruition). The more US origin arms a nation has, that much level of political persuasion and coercion can be applied to that nation. Never forget the Pressler Amendment.
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Rakesh wrote: 09 Apr 2024 20:33 ..
G2G deals of C-17, Apaches, P-8Is, engines for Tejas, SiG 716s are not equated with a military alliance. A US-led military alliance is a whole other cup of tea and comes with a geopolitical baggage that India does not need at all, especially during her metoric rise. India's rise must be managed by Indians alone and certainly not by the US
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Abs. sir. Which is why i said the Anglos are pressuring us with lofty talks of 'alliance' and 'coalition' (for their wars) when we are quite ok with a buyer-seller relationship.
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How did this news escape attention?

https://apnews.com/article/denmark-miss ... de9829f728

Denmark says a navy missile with a tech error might launch unintentionally — but won’t explode

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COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — Denmark warned Thursday that a technical error on a navy missile might make it launch unintentionally — but not explode — and send fragments falling into Danish waters.

Denmark’s armed forces said the technical problem arose on a Harpoon missile on the frigate HDMS Niels Juel during testing at anchor in the Korsoer naval base.

“The launch vehicle, the booster, is activated, and currently cannot be disabled,” the military said in a statement.

The military said the missile is live, but only the booster is activated and there is no danger of the missile exploding or reaching farther than the booster rocket can lift it. It says: “Until the booster is disabled, there is a risk that the missile could launch and fly several kilometers away.”

On its webpage, the Danish Maritime Authority said there was a military drill taking place in the Storebaelt strait between the islands of Zeeland and Funen. The strait is a busy shipping lane connecting the Baltic Sea and the North Sea.
Putting this here for posterity for any idiots calling the hatch open nonsense...(Ref Arihant)

https://bbc.com/news/world-europe-68730431
The Danish military was forced to temporarily close a major shipping lane and nearby airspace after a missile launcher onboard a ship malfunctioned.

The National Maritime Authority issued a warning for vessels to avoid part of the Great Belt strait off the coast of Denmark on Thursday afternoon due to a risk of "falling missile fragments".

A naval exercise began in the area last month and is due to end on Friday.

The shipping lane was reopened on Thursday evening after about six hours.

In a statement, the Danish military said the problem with the missile occurred "during a mandatory test where the missile launcher is activated and cannot be deactivated".

"Until the missile launcher is deactivated, there is a risk that the missile can fire and fly a few kilometres away," the military added.

The missile was launched from the Niels Juel frigate, which has been part of Nato's standing naval force since 2023.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... palestine/

Iranian forces seize vessel using helicopter as tensions with Israel soar
Naval forces of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard seized a ship near the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday and diverted the vessel to Iranian territorial waters, as tensions soar between Iran and Israel.

Iran’s official news agency, IRNA, shared footage showing a person rappelling from a helicopter to board a ship, which it said was Portuguese-flagged and “connected to” Israel.
British marine safety firm Ambrey said Zodiac Maritime “has encountered Iranian hostile acts in the past due to its Israeli ownership,”...The vessel had been en route from the United Arab Emirates to India, it added.
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Australia’s Ghost Shark Uncrewed Submarine Breaks Cover
Anduril has unveiled the prototype of its Ghost Shark extra-large autonomous undersea vehicle (XL-AUV), which is being developed for Australia. The Ghost Shark is described by the manufacturer as providing a “modular, multi-purpose capability that can flexibly respond to the Australian Defense Force’s mission requirements,” although, at this point, it remains uncertain exactly what kinds of missions a production version of the underwater drone might undertake.

The Ghost Shark’s appearance has a lot more in common with another extra-large AUV, Boeing’s Orca, the first prototype of which was delivered to the U.S. Navy for trials last December. The U.S. Navy is hoping to use the Orca initially as a minesweeper, before potentially expanding its mission set to underwater surveillance and/or electronic warfare later.

One notable point of differentiation is the small, swept-back sail found on the Anduril design, the function of which is not entirely clear. Extendable masts on UUVs are normally used for sensors, communications, and to support propulsion.
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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... carrier/


The initial plan outlines the deployment of 50 aircraft, with 20 to be stationed on the deck and 30 housed in the hangar. Among these aircraft are the naval version of TAI’s Hurjet light attack aircraft, TAI ANKA-III unmanned jet fighter, Baykar’s Bayraktar KIZILELMA unmanned jet fighter, and TB-3 UCAV

The carrier will be armed with a 32-cell MIDLAS VLS (Vertical Launching System), and four Gökdeniz Close-in Weapon systems for self-defence.

The carrier’s technical specifications were unveiled in February 2024, with no changes noted. It will maintain a length of 285 meters and a displacement of 60,000 tonnes. Additionally, the carrier will be equipped with Combined Gas Turbine and Gas Turbine (COGAG) propulsion, ensuring a maximum speed of 25 knots. The DPO plans to mount four LM2500 gas turbines as the main propulsion system.
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Interesting that the Turkish think that you can operate the Hurjet and a potential naval varient KAAN from a 25 knot aircraft carrier and that too without any catapult.
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Pratyush wrote: 26 Apr 2024 07:53 Interesting that the Turkish think that you can operate the Hurjet and a potential naval varient KAAN from a 25 knot aircraft carrier and that too without any catapult.
Does the speed of an AC become a limitation parameter for it's aircraft?

Anyway the article does state
Since these are preliminary designs, it’s crucial not to overanalyze the specifics, as initial designs invariably evolve based on requirements and technological advancements.
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Furthermore, recent improvements in Turkish-American relations have led to the US Congress approving the delivery of F-16 Block 70 Viper fighters to Turkey. Subsequently, some officials have made positive statements regarding Turkiye’s potential return to the F-35 program.
:mrgreen: The Turks might be related to the Pakis after all :wink:
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Manish,

The speed of the ship provides wind over deck. That in turn improves the takeoff performance of fixed wing aircraft. When operating from aircraft carrier.
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^ the speed factor would be lesser as compared to the length though.
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