Bharat Rakshak

derkonig wrote:AoA,
I wonder what will the NP ayatollahs say about this, coz all trails lead back to Pak.

Sanjay M wrote:Oh, and btw,

North Korea Claims to Conduct 2nd Nuclear Test (NYT)

Muppalla wrote:NPAs - There is a sanskrit saying " prusta thadanath dantha banghaha ". The literal gently translation is when you hit on the back teeth fell down. Real translation is for a given reaction a totally unrelated reaction will come out. In case of NPAs, as soon as the word Nuke-Test comes then the first thing to prescribe CTBT and NPT to India.

Tilak wrote:More than US, Japans langoti is up for the pickings.. . Lets see where their lecturing takes them. Ofcourse Japan and Soko have always has a hands off approach to Pakistan from Proliferation to Terrorism and let Amrika do its bidding, by showering them with aid .

For now Lil Kim Amar Rahe ! Let em "Donor" Nations and Dlagon and Amrika have it..

Sanjay M wrote:

Tilak wrote:More than US, Japans langoti is up for the pickings.. . Lets see where their lecturing takes them. Ofcourse Japan and Soko have always has a hands off approach to Pakistan from Proliferation to Terrorism and let Amrika do its bidding, by showering them with aid .

For now Lil Kim Amar Rahe ! Let em "Donor" Nations and Dlagon and Amrika have it..

This may bring Japan's wrath down on our heads, because Japan wants everyone to sign CTBT as a way to contain NKorea. I don't see how CTBT will do this, since NKorea will simply refuse to sign, as they have for NPT. If NKorea can use blackmail to stay alive despite sanctions, etc, I don't see how CTBT will make any difference to them.

Rahul Mehta wrote:We should conduct 43 more tests, so that we can be at par with China.

China's largest atmosheric test was 3000 kt and largest ground test was 4300kt

We should beat this within next 3 years.

vaman wrote:Ramanaji

Why will NoKo risk more sanctions and hardships by testing an unproven Djinn design for friendlier than broke-back mountain friend Bakistan?

ramana wrote:Its the Pakis outsourcing their testing again. Recall the bit about Pakis increasing their bums. Well here its being tested via Noko.

North Korea tests nuclear bomb in underground bunker
North Korea triggered a red alert across Asia this morning, after it carried out a nuclear weapon test and fired a short-range missile.

By Malcolm Moore in Shanghai
Last Updated: 7:43AM BST 25 May 2009

Tremors from a 4.7 magnitude artificial earthquake were detected just before ten o'clock local time, after North Korea detonated a bomb in a bunker six miles underground.

The rogue state, which had previously tested a nuclear weapon in October 2006, boasted that its latest test was more powerful "in terms of its explosive power" and more technologically-advanced.

North Korea 'already using plutonium to make weapons'

We successfully conducted another underground nuclear test on May 25 as part of measures aimed at strengthening our self-defence nuclear deterrent in every way," said the state-run North Korean news wire.

The test will "contribute to safeguarding our sovereignty and socialism and guaranteeing peace and safety on the Korean peninsula and the surrounding region," it added.

The test site was around 230 miles north east of Pyongyang, according to the United States Geological Survey. The location is just a few miles from where North Korea tested its first nuclear device in 2006.

Yonhap, the South Korean news wire, also reported that a single ground-to-air missile, with a range of 80 miles, was fired from a launch site nearby just a few hours later. The rogue state is not thought to have yet developed a missile capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, experts said.

Taro Aso, the Japanese prime minister, said he would set up a task force to handle the situation and seek an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss a plan of action.

Barack Obama, the US president, said the nuclear and missile tests were "a threat to international peace" and warranted "action by the international community."

The Chinese Foreign ministry said it was investigating the situation and could not comment immediately. Diplomatic sources said they had been expecting a North Korean nuclear test, and said the rogue state was trying to increase pressure on the United States in a high-stakes negotiation.

"The reported test appears to be aimed at securing ultimate endorsement of its nuclear power status from the United States and bringing Washington to the negotiation table," said Kim Sung-han, a professor at Korea University.

Lee Myung-bak, the South Korean president, called an emergency cabinet meeting to discuss the situation. "Both South Korea and US intelligence agencies are analysing and closely monitoring the situation," said a spokesman for his office.

He added that the South Korean government had been warned beforehand that a nuclear test was possible. At the end of last week, an unnamed South Korean defence official was quoted saying that "brisk activity" had been detected along North Korea's northern coast and that "trucks mounted with mobile rocket launchers are on the move".

North Korea has repeatedly warned in the past month that it intends to restart its nuclear programme and build up its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Pyongyang was furious in April after the United Nations Security Council issued a rebuke against it for testing a long-range missile. The United States believed the missile was a weapon capable of striking continental America.

Reports of the nuclear test hit South Korean financial markets and the main KOSPI share index was down four per cent, while the won dropped more than one per cent against the US dollar.

In 2006, North Korea detonated a very small nuclear device which the Atomic Energy Commission estimated at "about or less than a kiloton". Doubts were raised about whether it was actually a nuclear weapon, since conventional arms could have generated a similar blast.

The test drew international condemnation, including from China, Pyongyang's traditional ally, since Beijing was notified just 20 minutes before the test. "This test has brought about a negative influence on our bilateral relationship," said the Chinese Foreign ministry at the time. The UN approved military and economic sanctions against the state shortly afterwards.

maybe iran will feel left out and detonate one soon

Singha wrote:maybe iran will feel left out and detonate one soon. they are better at math and physics
than the noko...albeit noko has a land border with PRC to reach in and take up whatever
is on offer at Uncle Jiangs wal-mart.

although iran is not under immediate threat of attack by unkil now, it needs some cement
to shore up its morale and boost its stature.

The North gave no details of the test location, but South Korean officials said that a seismic tremor was detected in the north-eastern part around the town of Kilju - the site of North Korea's first nuclear test. The US Geological Survey said a 4.7-magnitude quake was detected at 0054 GMT, 10km (six miles) underground. Geological agencies in both South Korea and the US said the tremor indicated a nuclear explosion.

Geological recordings of the tremor suggest it was much larger than the 2006 test. That was backed up by the Russian defence ministry, which detected a blast of up to 20 kilotons - comparable to the American bombs that flattened Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

Pyongyang announced the test, and Russia's Defense Ministry confirmed an atomic explosion at 9:54 a.m. (0054 GMT) in northeastern North Korea, estimating the blast's yield at 10 to 20 kilotons — comparable to the bombs that flattened Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Ten to 20 kilotons would be far more than North Korea managed in 2006. U.S. intelligence officials said the 2006 test measured less than a kiloton; 1 kiloton is equal to the force produced by 1,000 tons of TNT. However, Russia estimated the force of the 2006 blast at 5 to 15 kilotons, far higher than other estimates at the time.

Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso said the U.N. Security Council will meet at 4:30 p.m. Monday in New York (2030 GMT). "North Korea's nuclear test poses a grave challenge to nuclear nonproliferation and clearly violates U.N. Security Council resolutions," he said in Tokyo. "We are not tolerating this at all."

"The Democratic People's Republic of Korea successfully conducted one more underground nuclear test on May 25 as part of the measures to bolster up its nuclear deterrent for self-defence in every way as requested by its scientists and technicians.

"The current nuclear test was safely conducted on a new higher level in terms of its explosive power and technology of its control and the results of the test helped satisfactorily settle the scientific and technological problems arising in further increasing the power of nuclear weapons and steadily developing nuclear technology.

"The successful nuclear test is greatly inspiring the army and people of the DPRK all out in the 150-day campaign, intensifying the drive for effecting a new revolutionary surge to open the gate to a thriving nation.

"The test will contribute to defending the sovereignty of the country and the nation and socialism and ensuring peace and security on the Korean Peninsula and the region around it with the might of Songun."

derkonig wrote:all trails lead back to Pak.

Its the Pakis outsourcing their testing again. Recall the bit about Pakis increasing their bums. Well here its being tested via Noko.

"U.S. appeals to China to help stabilize Pakistan
Updated at: 0925 PST, Monday, May 25, 2009

Quote:
WASHINGTON: The Obama administration has appealed to China to provide training and even military equipment to help Pakistan counter a growing militant threat, U.S. officials said.... part of a broad push by Washington to enlist key allies of Pakistan in an effort to stabilize the country. ....
Richard C. Holbrooke, the administration's special representative for Pakistan and Afghanistan, has visited China and Saudi Arabia, another key ally, in recent weeks as part of the effort.

The American appeal to China underscores the importance of Beijing in security issues. Washington considers China to be the most influential country for dealing with isolated, militaristic North Korea . Beijing also plays a crucial role in the international effort to pressure Iran over its nuclear ambitions.

Tilak wrote: More than US, Japans langoti is up for the pickings.Lets see where their lecturing takes them. Ofcourse Japan and Soko have always has a hands off approach to Pakistan from Proliferation to Terrorism and let Amrika do its bidding, by showering them with aid.

For now Lil Kim Amar Rahe ! Let em "Donor" Nations and Dlagon and Amrika have it..