Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby RajeshA » 01 Aug 2011 17:20

X-Posted from Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2011 Thread

Originally posted by Airavat
China blames attack on Pakistan terrorists
Airavat wrote:The Kashgar authorities said in a statement on their website that initial investigations found that the perpetrators of one attack learned explosive-making skills in terrorist-run camps in Pakistan.

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby arun » 11 Aug 2011 22:18

X Posted from the TSP thread.

Pakistan, self-anointed Islamic Republic, Citadel of Islam and Worlds First IEDological Muslim State deports fellow adherents of the Mohammadden religion to be persecuted by Kaafirs during the holy month of Ramzan / Ramadan.

The Punjabi Military dominated “Deep State” of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan certainly seems to think nothing of paying off Kaafirs in the coin of fellow Mohammaddens, even women and children, when it comes to meeting their Geo-Strategic needs:

Pakistan Deports Uyghurs

2011-08-10

Five Uyghurs have been sent back to China, where they face punishment.

Pakistani authorities have deported five ethnic Uyghurs to China’s northwestern Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region where they may face persecution on their return, according to the head of a Uyghur exile group.

“According to the information we received, all five were Uyghurs,” said Omer Khan, the founder of the Omer Uyghur Foundation in the Pakistani capital of Islamabad.

They were believed to have been forcibly repatriated this week to Xinjiang, where Uyghurs say they have long suffered ethnic discrimination, oppressive religious controls, and continued poverty and joblessness.

“The deportation of Uyghurs is happening a lot these days [in Pakistan], but this is one of the rare cases which has been exposed to the media,” Omer Khan said.

On Tuesday, the Pakistani newspaper Dawn reported that five “Chinese citizens” had been arrested in different parts of the country and deported on Monday.

The report claimed that the group, which included two children and a woman …………………………..

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby Kukreja » 10 Sep 2011 22:33

Jihadist group claims Xinjiang attacks
http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 435003.ece
A Jihadist group has claimed responsibility for recent violence in China’s far-western Xinjiang region, saying in a video message that the attacks, which left up to 40 people dead in two cities, were “revenge” against the Chinese government.

The Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP), an Islamist group that has carried out several attacks in Xinjiang and other parts of China and has called for the Muslim-majority Western region’s independence, said in a video message it had been behind knife-attacks and blasts in Hotan and Kashgar that left up to 40 people, including at least 20 attackers, dead.

The 10-minute 44-second video message, which showed TIP leader Abdul Shakoor Damla, was the first claim of responsibility for the attacks, which Chinese authorities had blamed on terrorists trained in camps in Pakistan. The United States-based SITE Intelligence Group said the video was made by the TIP, the Associated Press reported.

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If the claims are proved accurate, the video will reaffirm Chinese fears of the TIP’s growing presence in neighbouring Pakistan, and also question claims by overseas exiled Uighur groups who had blamed the suppression of protests by police for triggering violence in Hotan.

Xinjiang, which borders Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), has seen unrest and riots between the native Uighurs, a Turkic ethnic group, and Han Chinese migrants. The Chinese government has frequently blamed extremist groups for stirring unrest in the region. Its claims have, however, been questioned by both Uighur scholars and many exile groups, who say the unrest, including the recent attacks, had been carried out by residents aggrieved by rising inequalities and religious restrictions.

In Kashgar, attackers hijacked a truck and rammed it into a group of pedestrians before hacking at Chinese shoppers in a food street with knives. The local government said some of the attackers had trained in terror camps in Pakistan. Kashgar lies close to Xinjiang’s border with PoK.



CPC sought Jamaat support

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... 436681.ece
Fears over the resurgence of religious extremist groups in Xinjiang and increasing lack of confidence in the Pakistani government's ability to crack down on terror were the likely factors behind the Communist Party of China's unexpected move to sign its first ever cooperation agreement with an Islamist political party in 2009, leaked United States Embassy cables suggest.

The CPC sought the support of Pakistan's Jamaat-e-Islaami (JI) to tackle “radicalised” groups who were backing separatists in Xinjiang, scholars in official Chinese think-tanks and Afghan diplomats told U.S. officials, according to a cable from March 2009 that was among the last tranche of cables released by Wikileaks.

The cable underscores China's long-persisting concerns over the spread of extremism from neighbouring Pakistan, voiced recently following attacks in Kashgar and Hotan which Chinese authorities blamed on terrorists trained in Pakistan. The separatist Turkestan Islamic Party (TIP), which has active camps near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, claimed responsibility for the violence, which left at least 40 people dead.

In early 2009, China decided it wanted to “directly deal with JI” because radicalised groups “were suspicious of Chinese interests in Pakistan and supported Xinjiang separatists,” Ye Hailin, a scholar at the official Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS), a think-tank close to the Chinese government, reportedly told U.S. officials. The JI, China believed, had “strong influence” on those groups.

“The maliks can help us very much,” Mr. Yi was quoted as saying.

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby SSridhar » 30 Oct 2011 08:40

Uyghur Muslims yearn for liberal Hajj regime
Next week, 13,800 Muslims from around China will undertake a pilgrimage to Makkah.

But Mehmet Ali (name changed) will not be among them.

Neither will his father and two brothers, who have long given up hope of ever undertaking the Hajj pilgrimage.

For the eight million Uighur Muslims of Xinjiang — a desert region in China's far west — travelling to Makkah has become harder than ever following recently imposed curbs on issuing passports to Uighurs. The measures came into force in the wake of violent attacks in the city of Kashgar and Hotan in July.

The Chinese government has also clamped down on “unofficial” travels to Makkah. The State Administration for Religious Affairs earlier this year mandated new rules to improve “the management of Hajj work”, saying Uighurs, and other Chinese Muslims, were only allowed to travel to Makkah if they go on trips organised by the state-controlled Islamic Association of China (IAC).

The government fears that Uighurs may either illegally emigrate or become indoctrinated by extremist groups — concerns that many Uighurs say are exaggerated and have effectively made it impossible for ordinary Uighurs to leave China. Ali, and a dozen other Uighur residents in the Sanshixia district of Urumqi, Xinjiang's regional capital, said in recent interviews with The Hindu that the IAC rarely accepted applications, and police stations across Xinjiang had, in recent months, completely stopped issuing passports. Without “connections”, they said, it was impossible to obtain a passport and travel to Makkah. The Xinjiang regional government's press office could not be reached for comment.

The regional government has put in place intermittent passport bans since 2008, ahead of the Beijing Olympics. Following attacks in Kashgar and Hotan in July, which were blamed by the regional government on terrorists with links to camps in Pakistan, local authorities have once again put a blanket ban on issuing passports to Uighurs across Xinjiang, though Han residents — China's majority group — are still issued passports.

China has 20 million Muslims. The 10-million-strong Hui ethnic community, residing mainly in western Ningxia, is the biggest group. The state-run Xinhua news agency reported that 13,800 pilgrims from across China will travel to Makkah this year on 41 chartered flights, between November 5 and 9.

Every pilgrim will be on an official trip, run by the IAC. Many trips, officials said, would include “patriotic education”. Officials from Xinjiang and other provinces will accompany the pilgrims and supervise the tour.

In October last year, the Xinjiang government said it had “investigated, prosecuted and curbed” activities of “illegal organisations” that organised independent pilgrimages. In Uighur neighbourhoods in Urumqi and in Kashgar, the government has put up signs warning locals to avoid going on “illegal” pilgrimages.

Between two and three thousand pilgrims are expected to travel from Xinjiang this year. Local officials acknowledge that demand for official trips, despite the high costs involved, have far exceeded the slots available.

Ali's father said it was “impossible to travel if you don't work for the government, or know someone who does”.

“We cannot get a passport,” he said. “If we want to go on a government trip, we will have to pay 70,000 yuan (Rs.5. 46 lakh). Even we can afford it, it's difficult to get the approval.” “The government,” he added, “does not want Uighurs to travel on their own. So we can never go to Makkah.”

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby Agnimitra » 16 Nov 2011 21:05

Uyghurs challenged by life in Beijing
Separated by religion, language and culture, Uyghur migrants are treated with suspicion by their Han Chinese countrymen in Beijing, with discrimination leaving kebab stalls a sole option for work. Though the recent violence in Xinjiang has hardened attitudes against them, the migrants complain that a Han influx into their province leaves them "no homeland to return to".

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby ramana » 16 Nov 2011 21:54




The title is misleading. The Uighers don't pose a global threat. They are a threat only to PRC and US in Afghanistan

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby Tuvaluan » 07 Jun 2015 23:44

Chinese muslims get freedom and democracy under chinese leadership

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/is-this-chinese-grandfather-iraq-isis-oldest-jihadi/20150605.htm

Amin says he decided to join the ISIS after watching a video of his son being killed in Syria. This grandfather is believed to be one of Islamic State's oldest jihadis.

In the propaganda video released by ISIS, Amin is interviewed by another IS member in a green field and inside a school run by the terrorist organisation. The chilling video also features a young Uighur boy singing an Arabic song praising martyrdom, while another issues a warning to the Chinese. 'O Chinese kaffar (non-believers), know that we are preparing in the land of the khilafah (caliphate) and we will come to you and raise this flag in Turkestan with the permission of Allah,' says a child looking into the camera.

Giving reasons for his decision to join the ISIS, Amin tells the interviewer, 'I was subjected to oppression in Turkestan at the hands of the Chinese... for 60 years.'

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby KJo » 08 Jun 2015 01:29

Why won't the Chinese Govt go in and demolish their mosques? They do so many things like this.

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Postby Tuvaluan » 08 Jun 2015 02:43

China has already demolished a whole bunch of mosques -- they just snuff out all the news and the Indian media could care less about publicizing such things. Would be good to drop pamphlets of all chinese demolitions over lahore, karachi and the closer to the xinjiang border.


Xinjiang mosque demolition in 2008 for not supporting the Olympics

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2008/06/23/uk-olympics-mosque-idUKPEK18996820080623

Mosque demoltion in 2012

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2081245/Violence-erupts-China-police-knock-mosque-illegal-religious-place.html

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby vijaykarthik » 08 Jun 2015 11:37

^ more 2c from my end:

Apart from mosque bashing up, they also tried to restrict the muslims from fasting during Ramadan last year. And when they realized that they couldn't control all muslims, they said all govt officials shouldn't observe the fasts and so on.

And they also brought their draconian law on terrorism which also banned all terrorist thoughts initially! :eek:

When someone gently reminded the Chinese leaders that China hasn't got the capability (yet) to read peoples minds, someone conveniently changed it to read "no terrorist writings, literature etc etc"

What you sow, so you reap. China will do well to keep it in mind.

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby uddu » 09 Jun 2015 09:09

Just because China is our competitor never means we have to support Uighur Jihadis in any manner. Same applies to China in their support to Pakistan. The same Pakistan will be one day launching nukes against Infidel China. The possibility of it is increasing with each passing day.

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby Tuvaluan » 10 Jun 2015 07:09

uddu wrote:Just because China is our competitor never means we have to support Uighur Jihadis in any manner. Same applies to China in their support to Pakistan.


Are you saying India and China have to be nice and should not cause trouble to each other? Great advice. I am sure the CCP will heed your call for a peaceful tomorrow.

FYI, Pakistan won't have any nukes if china did not give it to them, so think again. The paki beggars will work for anyone who gives them cash, and in the case of china, it also gives them nukes and weapons to use against India.

China is not just a competitor -- it is a hostile enemy nation. The fact that they have provided nuclear weapons to a country out to destroy India, i.e. Pakistan, should give you some clues on that front.

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Re: Understanding the Uighur Movement-1

Postby Tuvaluan » 19 Jun 2015 06:41

Xposting

chakra wrote:China bans fasting in Muslim-dominated Xinjiang region

China Restricts Ramadan Fasting in Far Western Region

China has banned civil servants, students and teachers in its mainly Muslim Xinjiang region from fasting during Ramadan and ordered restaurants to stay open, official websites showed as the holy month began today.

http://www.ndtv.com/topic/muslim-xinjiang-region


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