K. I wish you had posted this also to preclude other responses.Satya_anveshi wrote:Ramana garu, my initial, limited and deliberately ambiguous comment was relevent to say that there may be potential linkage between the violence in libya, the muslim hate material and possible source of that. I could well be wrong but to keep the folks on look out and keep their antennas ON for reception.
anmol wrote:It looks to me that America is creating another Pakistan.. and they are using an expert: Anne Patterson (formerly Ambassador to Pakistan).
Some Wikileaks on her :-
Some stars shine through the banality such as the heroic envoy in Islamabad, Anne Patterson. She pleads that Washington's whole policy{use of drones} is counterproductive: it "risks destabilising the Pakistani state, alienating both the civilian government and the military leadership, and provoking a broader governance crisis without finally achieving the goal". Nor is any amount of money going to bribe the Taliban to our side. Patterson's cables are like missives from the Titanic as it already heads for the bottom.http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... -wikileaks"you can't kill your way out of this{Af-Pak trouble}. That's not the option. There might be other alternatives -- reconciliation process, offering job opportunities, I don't know. But it's not just by force."
She was appointed US Ambassador to Pakistan on July 31, 2007 and Musharraf is kicked out by 2008. She was appointed Ambassador to Egypt after Mubarak was kicked out..
I guess she is a "transition to Pakistan" expert.
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The man who produced the film, which is said to have led to the deadly protests in Libya and became the reason of death of the US Ambassador Chris Stevens, has gone into hiding, but remains unrepentant for releasing his film, says a report.
Sam Bacile, who wrote, directed and produced the two-hour film ‘Innocence of Muslims’, also reportedly called Islam ‘a cancer’ and vowed to release further films about the religion.
Bacile, who described himself as an Israeli Jew, is said to live in California where he works in real estate.
Israeli diplomats said that they have no record of any citizen with the Sam Bacile's name, the New York Daily News reports.
“His name is a pseudonym,” said Steve Klein, a Christian activist, who says he was consultant on the film.
“All these Middle Eastern folks I work with, have pseudonyms,” he told The Atlantic.
“I doubt he's Jewish. I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign,” he added.
According to the report, Klein insisted that everybody involved in the controversial film “Innocence of Muslims” was “an active American citizen.”
“They're from Syria, Turkey, Pakistan, they're some that are from Egypt. Some are Copts (Coptic Christians), but the vast majority are Evangelical,” he said.
Atlantic magazine's Goldberg was on CNN disputing whether the producer is even a real person or a pseudonym for some other miscreants!The man who produced the film, which is said to have led to the deadly protests in Libya and became the reason of death of the US Ambassador Chris Stevens, has gone into hiding, but remains unrepentant for releasing his film, says a report.
Revealed: inside story of US envoy's assassination
Exclusive: America 'was warned of embassy attack but did nothing'
KIM SENGUPTA FRIDAY 14 SEPTEMBER 2012
The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.
American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.
The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".
Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.
According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.
Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.
Eight Americans, some from the military, were wounded in the attack which claimed the lives of Mr Stevens, Sean Smith, an information officer, and two US Marines. All staff from Benghazi have now been moved to the capital, Tripoli, and those whose work is deemed to be non-essential may be flown out of Libya.
In the meantime a Marine Corps FAST Anti-Terrorism Reaction Team has already arrived in the country from a base in Spain and other personnel are believed to be on the way. Additional units have been put on standby to move to other states where their presence may be needed in the outbreak of anti-American fury triggered by publicity about a film which demeaned the Prophet Mohamed.
A mob of several hundred stormed the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa yesterday. Other missions which have been put on special alert include almost all those in the Middle East, as well as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Armenia, Burundi and Zambia.
Senior officials are increasingly convinced, however, that the ferocious nature of the Benghazi attack, in which rocket-propelled grenades were used, indicated it was not the result of spontaneous anger due to the video, called Innocence of Muslims. Patrick Kennedy, Under-Secretary at the State Department, said he was convinced the assault was planned due to its extensive nature and the proliferation of weapons.
There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa'ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.
Senator Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said: "I am asking my colleagues on the committee to immediately investigate what role al-Qa'ida or its affiliates may have played in the attack and to take appropriate action."
According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."
Wissam Buhmeid, the commander of the Tripoli government-sanctioned Libya's Shield Brigade, effectively a police force for Benghazi, maintained that it was anger over the Mohamed video which made the guards abandon their post. "There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film; they would absolutely put their loyalty to the Prophet over the consulate. The deaths are all nothing compared to insulting the Prophet."
Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.
An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa."
Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.
Mr Stevens' mother, Mary Commanday, spoke of her son yesterday. "He did love what he did, and he did a very good job with it. He could have done a lot of other things, but this was his passion. I have a hole in my heart," she said.
Global anger: The protests spread
Yemen
The furore across the Middle East over the controversial film about the Prophet Mohamed is now threatening to get out of control. In Sana'a, the Yemeni capital, yesterday around 5,000 demonstrators attacked the US embassy, leaving at least 15 people injured. Young protesters, shouted: "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God," smashed windows of the security offices and burned at least five cars, witnesses said.
Egypt
Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Morsi yesterday condemned the attack in Benghazi that killed the US ambassador. In a speech in Brussels, Mr Morsi said he had spoken to President Obama and condemned "in the clearest terms" the Tuesday attacks. Despite this, and possibly playing to a domestic audience, President Obama said yesterday that "I don't think we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy".
Demonstrators in Cairo attacked the mission on Tuesday evening and protests have continued since.
Iraq
Militants said the anti-Islamic film "will put all the American interests Iraq in danger" and called on Muslims everywhere to "face our joint enemy", as protesters in Baghdad burned American flags yesterday. The warning from the Iranian-backed group Asaib Ahl al-Haq came as demonstrators demanded the closure of the US embassy in the capital.
Bangladesh
Islamists warned they may "besiege" the US embassy in Dhaka after security forces stopped around 1,000 protesters marching to the building. The Khelafat Andolon group called for bigger protests as demonstrators threw their fists in the air, burned the flag and chanted anti-US slogans.
Others
There was a Hamas-organised protest in Gaza City, and as many as 100 Arab Israelis took to the streets in Tel Aviv. In Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai postponed a trip to Norway, fearing violence. Officials in Pakistan said they "expected protests". Protesters in Tunis burnt US flags.
Michel: [raising his glass in a toast] Vive la mort ! Vive la guerre ! Vive le sacré mercenaire !
Han: It is difficult to associate these horrors with the proud civilizations that created them: Sparta, Rome, The Knights of Europe, the Samurai... They worshipped strength, because it is strength that makes all other values possible. Nothing survives without it. Who knows what delicate wonders have died out of the world, for want of the strength to survive.
, classic "when did you stop beating your wife?" style....AP reports that they've zeroed on to the director of the film. He's indeed an Egyptian Coptic Christian, lives in Southern California and his real name is Nakoula Basseley Nakoulakrisna wrote: Unrepentant' filmmaker vows to make more 'anti-Islam' filmsThe man who produced the film, which is said to have led to the deadly protests in Libya and became the reason of death of the US Ambassador Chris Stevens, has gone into hiding, but remains unrepentant for releasing his film, says a report.Sam Bacile, who wrote, directed and produced the two-hour film ‘Innocence of Muslims’, also reportedly called Islam ‘a cancer’ and vowed to release further films about the religion.
Bacile, who described himself as an Israeli Jew, is said to live in California where he works in real estate.Israeli diplomats said that they have no record of any citizen with the Sam Bacile's name, the New York Daily News reports.
“His name is a pseudonym,” said Steve Klein, a Christian activist, who says he was consultant on the film.
“All these Middle Eastern folks I work with, have pseudonyms,” he told The Atlantic.
“I doubt he's Jewish. I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign,” he added.
According to the report, Klein insisted that everybody involved in the controversial film “Innocence of Muslims” was “an active American citizen.”
“They're from Syria, Turkey, Pakistan, they're some that are from Egypt. Some are Copts (Coptic Christians), but the vast majority are Evangelical,” he said.
On 22 September 1979 around 00:53 GMT, the Vela 6911 satellite detected the characteristic double flash of an atmospheric nuclear explosion apparently over the Indian Ocean or South Atlantic.
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An urgent meeting to discuss the handling of this event was held in the White House situation room soon after the intelligence report on the incident reached the Oval Office
At this meeting the probability of a nuclear test was placed at 90 percent or better. Either Keeny or Press (accounts of the participants vary) suggested convening a panel - at least as much as a delaying tactic as an effort to ensure that the data was carefully evaluated [Hersh 1991].
Monday, May. 30, 1977
In the foggy dawn of Nov. 17, 1968, the German-built freighter Scheersberg A (gross tonnage: 1,790 tons) chugged out of Antwerp harbor with a Liberian flag flying from its mast and 560 drums of "yellowcake"�a crude concentrate of uranium�packed beneath its decks. The ship never reached its declared destination of Genoa, Italy. Instead, after 15 days at sea it docked at the Turkish port of Iskenderun on Dec. 2, riding high in the water. Its strategic cargo�200 tons of uranium, worth $3.7 million, that could potentially be used for nuclear weapons�had vanished. The disappearance of the uranium was first disclosed last month by Paul Leventhal, a former counsel to the Senate Committee on Government Operations, at a conference in Salzburg, and the report was confirmed later by European Community officials.
Who had the uranium? And how did they get it? After several weeks of investigation by a team of correspondents, TIME has learned that the Scheersberg As voyage from Antwerp was part of a complex plot concocted by Israeli intelligence agents. Its purpose: to disguise a secret Israeli purchase of much-needed uranium for its French-built nuclear reactor at Dimona in the Negev Desert; an overt purchase might have pushed the Soviet Union into supplying nuclear arms to the Arab states
PRESS RELEASE
Shree Ganesh Festival, in its 28th year, will be celebrated in Muscat (Oman) from September 19 to 21.
To be held in Muscat Shiva Temple, it will reportedly include Ganesh Pratishtapana, Panchamrita Abhisheka, Gana Homa, poojas, Vedic chants, Ganesh Sahasranama Smarane, Bharatnatyam/Odissi dances, traditional floral decorations, bhajans, Shukla Yajurveda Ghanam chanting, Veena recital, etc.; besides offering of laddu/modaka/chakkuli.
Hindu statesman Rajan Zed, applauding the Oman Hindu community for organizing this elaborate Ganesh Festival, in a statement in Nevada (USA) today, wished that all prayers of Oman devotees be answered on auspicious occasion of Ganesh-Chaturthi, which falls on September 19 this year celebrating the birth of Lord Ganesh.
Rajan Zed, who is President of Universal Society of Hinduism, urged the Oman seekers to undertake deeper study of Hindu scriptures as it would open another eye for them. As our scriptures told us: conquer your passions and senses; meditate; keep your heart pure and full of love; seek higher knowledge; and realize Self which is deathless, source of all light and knows all, Zed suggested.
Popular festival of Ganesh-Chaturthi is celebrated on fourth day of the bright lunar fortnight of Bhadrapada, which may last for up to ten days. One of most widely worshipped deities in Hinduism, elephant headed (with a broken tusk) and human bodied Lord Ganesh is regarded as god of wisdom and good luck, patron of learning and remover of obstacles, and invoked at the commencement of all undertakings. He is said to have equivalents in Buddhism and Jainism also. Business people and students present their books to Lord Ganesh to ensure good fortune.
Ramesh Shettigar is reportedly the convener of Muscat Shree Ganesh Festival Committee, which is formed of large number of volunteers.
Hinduism is the oldest and third largest religion of the world with about one billion adherents and moksh (liberation) is its ultimate goal.
Muscat, which means "anchorage", is the burgeoning capital of Sultanate of Oman, oldest independent state in the Arab world. Its Internet domain is ".om", which is similar to "Om", Hinduism's mystical syllable containing the universe. Most Omanis follow the Ibadi form of Islam and Qaboos Bin Said Al Said is the Sultan. Lonely Planet has described Muscat as "forward-thinking" and "spotlessly clean and whimsically uniform city". Besides Shiva temple, Muscat has reportedly a Krishna temple also.
the Brotherhood's Arabic-language Twitter account and its website were praising the protests staged against a U.S.-made film that some Muslims deem insulting to the Prophet Muhammad. The Brotherhood's messages also called for a million-man march on Friday.
We have trouble of our own to worry about grand global issues. Besides, to toe the US line of thinking, I'd rather the cretins in our neighbourhood fight amongst themselves because if they are not, then they are fighting us.Philip wrote:Very nice summing up Raj.This is what we've been crying on BR for years,that the US time and time again repeats its cretinism..or is t actually a formula to keep the globe divided and in turmoil as some surmise (the chaos in the aftermath of cartoons of the Prophet earlier in Denmark).If this is to be a permanent policy of the US,to keep the leser nations of the world always fighting amnogst themselves,then the larger powers,Russia,China and India,who agree many a time on global issues have to take the elad and come together and attract in their grouping other like-minded states who wish noing better than fighting poverty not nations and individuals,and bettering the life of their peoples.They must network amoingts themselves in evetry sphere,economic,dipplomatic and even in security aspects.
Hindus will be allowed to flourish, but not to the degree where they displace the overarching Islamic political framework. It's a parasitic relationship, Hindus being the host.Aditya_V wrote:I was in Oman for 2 years, one of the most tolerant Islamic societies, Hindu Deity images are sold in Public and has Hindu Citizens f Gujarati Descent- the Khimjis, used to go to both temples in Old Muscat and Darsait.
If not from pressure from other Gulf countiries, the pressure of Death sentence for Murtad's would have also possibly been lifted, in 2005 there was some problem with some Pentacostal conversion in the Interior region
Why only "some" muslims? who is a true muslim? Can the Munafiks come out so they can be cleaned first?nakul wrote:the Brotherhood's Arabic-language Twitter account and its website were praising the protests staged against a U.S.-made film that some Muslims deem insulting to the Prophet Muhammad. The Brotherhood's messages also called for a million-man march on Friday.
Won't that make 26/11 like attacks easier ?nakul wrote:Anmol's map above shows that the American embassy was not on the coast line. I remember reading that they prefer to build it along coastline to enable easy evacuation from the sea. Perhaps they thought they were not going to need one.
Sudanese Muslims torch cars, smash glass outside German, UK embassies
Police in the Sudanese capital of Khartoum fired tear gas on demonstrators after they stormed the German embassy, pulling down its emblem and raising an Islamic flag in its place, Reuters reported.
The German Foreign Minister has confirmed the attack, and says the building is partially in flames.
Protesters also set nearby cars and trash cans on fire as police fired tear gas, according to AP.
Demonstrators smashed windows of the building and started a fire in front of the main gate, a witness told Reuters.
The German Foreign Minister says the embassy was vacated before the protest began, and that all employees are safe.
Police have used tear gas to disperse thousands of protesters who have gathered in front of the US embassy outside Khartoum.
The British Foreign Office has confirmed ongoing demonstrations outside the UK embassy in Khartoum. Sudanese police are currently at the scene.
Post-9/11 terrorist attacks anniversary, Americans are blackmailed into giving concessions within USA against free speech to the benefit of global Islam alone, while Ummah reserves rights to speak against any religion?.. due to protests
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in North African states, Afghanistan and Pakistan, Rosbalt reports.
Germany has decided to close embassies on September 14. German organizations will take additional security measures.
The US Embassy in Berlin was evacuated. A diplomat at the embassy’s visa section had respiratory problems, supposedly caused by documents brought by an Albanian. Two other diplomats who contacted the papers had health problems.
Comment: More protests will occur in Muslim countries on Friday after prayers. Some might turn violent. This is a warning.
The number of governments and groups around the world that have expressed condolences to the US for the deaths in Benghazi is larger than the number of countries that have experienced protests. However, the number of governments that specifically have denounced the breaching of the US Embassy compound in Cairo is much smaller.
On the other hand, almost every country that experienced anti-US demonstrations also sent policy and security reinforcements to protect the US Embassy compounds and to control demonstrators on the day they first gathered. Most appear ready to protect US embassies after Friday prayers.
Several commentators have written articles that provide insights about the local dimensions to many of the protests. To summarize, in many countries, the religious nature of the protests has blended with local grievances against the government.
That explains, for example, the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood's public statement and call to lead the next round of protests in Cairo. Egyptian Salafists -- strictly devout and sometimes militant Muslims - are challenging the Brotherhood for Islamic leadership. In Iraq, the Shiite cleric Sadr exploited the Muslim outrage over the anti-Muslim film to show the continued relevance and organizational capabilities of his movement. In Tunisia, Tunisian Salafists have demonstrated regularly, sometimes resulting in clashes with government security forces, over the direction of the state.
Demonstrations in Pakistan and Afghanistan over the anti-Muslim film also will serve to advance the political objectives of local political/religious parties and groups, including the Taliban, against the governments.
US-Egypt: For the record. During this Watch, a State Department spokesperson clarified that Egypt is among the top US allies in the Middle East.
Comment: This statement was made to clarify or correct an earlier statement that Egypt is not an ally and not an enemy of the US.
What do they want America to do?Actually its a fight over American public opinion. The Islamist organizations think this is a good way to terrorize Amerikha and force American opinion to do their bidding.
US President Barack Obama and his aides in the White House must be very upset as the search engine giant Google refused to accept their proposal of removing the controversial anti-Islam movie which irked deadly violence in many countries especially in Libya and Egypt.
White House officials earlier had asked Google to reconsider whether the video had violated YouTube's terms of service. Reacting against US' proposal, Google on Saturday, Sep 15 said, "We've restricted access to it in countries where it is illegal such as India and Indonesia, as well as in Libya and Egypt, given the very sensitive situations in these two countries," and also added, "This approach is entirely consistent with principles we first laid out in 2007."
Right now - back away from the Arab Spring and allow the Salafists to take over.nakul wrote:What do they want America to do?Actually its a fight over American public opinion. The Islamist organizations think this is a good way to terrorize Amerikha and force American opinion to do their bidding.
