@Kartik - yeah I am trying to get there, plan's still firming up.shiv wrote:kedar.karmarkar wrote: I appear around 0:15 to 0:18, and then speaking with Air Cmde Walia around the 0:30 on the left.
Indian Air Force cadets celebrate their graduation at the Air Force Academy in Dundigal, about 40 kilometers from Hyderabad, India, Saturday, Dec. 18, 2010.
A total 171 Flight Cadets comprising 39 women graduated from the Academy Saturday.
Juggi G wrote:
Kedar Karmarkar is that you & Are you a Serving AirForce Officer or Civilian
No he's the pair of jeans on the left. Goto 31 sec.Usual DDM, comparing apples and orangesAfter the Indian Air Force (IAF) wrote to the ministry of defence expressing concern at its depleting strength and pressing for immediate purchase of 40 Sukhois-30s under the fast-track provision, which does not warrant tendering or open competition, a deal was inked with Russia in 2007 for $1.6 billion (Rs7,490 crore), that is $40 million (Rs190 crore) a piece.
Latest figures tabled in parliament, however, show that another deal for 40 + 2 Sukhois (2 are replacements for aircraft that crashed last year), to be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautical Limited (HAL) under licence from the Russian Federation’s Irkutsk, has been struck for $4.3 billion (Rs20,125 crore), that is $102 million (Rs480 crore) a piece.
They had it on KC-3801 which was undergoing some testing - this was the KC-3802 which was parked during the ceremony.indranilroy wrote:What happened to the IFR probe on the C-130J?!
No worries, Indranil - you can drop the "ji" tail - just Kedar will doindranilroy wrote:^^^ Oh!!!
Between, Kedar ji I have an avid interest in photography. Your photographs are real eye candy, both aesthetically and technically. Please keep them coming. In this huge dearth of good photographs of the Indian birds, you and to some extent Vishal are such huge assets to Indian aviation buffs.
I hope to have the money and time to travel soon and cross paths with you. Will be a huge learning experience for me.
- glad you like my work - I know Vishal - he is a great photog and great guy too. The Defence Ministry plans to invite bids for the Soviet-made MiG-29 fighter jets of the Hungarian Air Force, national daily Magyar Nemzet said on Monday, quoting a ministry source.
Hungarian military industry companies have held informal talks on revamping and reselling the aircraft, the paper said, adding that any sale to a third country would be subject to the prior approval of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation.
The Hungarian Air Force got 28 MiG-29 planes from Russia in 1993, as a partial payment of its government debt, in a total value of 800 million US dollars.
The service life of 14 MiG-29s was extended in 2002 and 2004, respectively, with the rest being cannibalised for spare parts. In the meantime, two jets crashed. If all goes to plan, twelve fighter planes will be offered for sale in spring.
The MiG-29s were phased out over the past few years and replaced by Swedish-made Gripens.
Here is my calculation for how much it would cost the IAF to acquire the 12 MiG-29s from HuAF:Kartik wrote:Hungary is looking to sell its remaining 12 MiG-29s that had their lives extended. Maybe India could look to snap these up quickly at cheap prices and with Russian permission, get the licence to have them upgraded at the BRD 9 along with the rest of the IAF ones. Then these could be distributed among the 3 existing MiG-29 squadrons. ...
Hungary looking to sell its MiG-29s... The Hungarian Air Force got 28 MiG-29 planes from Russia in 1993, as a partial payment of its government debt, in a total value of 800 million US dollars. ...
Am i not better served if go for a new aircraft?srai wrote:
Here is my calculation for how much it would cost the IAF to acquire the 12 MiG-29s from HuAF:
Given,
* $800 million for 28 MiG-29s = $29 million USD each
* Assuming 60% of the original price worth now (life-extension) = $17 million USD each
* IAF upgrade cost of its MiG-29 fleet = $15 million each
* Total units available = 12 MiG-29s
((($800 million / 28 MiG-29s) * (60% value of original)) + $15 million upgrade cost) * 12 MiG-29s = $205 million USD
17 million is overkill/highway robbery for a 17 year old airframe that has finsihed perhaps more thn half their calender and TTL, and have not been overhauld. considering that they are 17 years old (atleast!) depreciation would be quite high - both in terms of calendar life and technical life. In the current state - with no overhaul, and hundreds of hours on them, I would expect that they will sell for less than 3 mil apiece. (probably a bit higher if they are flyable).* Assuming 60% of the original price worth now (life-extension) = $17 million USD each
+1Kartik wrote:Kedar, are you going to be in India for Aero India 2011 ? Really hoping that you're there- your pictures of the Tejas are some of the best taken of it so far and am really hoping for a good display this time around.
Indranil, Thank You for the Generous Compliment.indranilroy wrote:Between, Kedar ji I have an avid interest in photography. Your photographs are real eye candy, both aesthetically and technically. Please keep them coming.
In this huge dearth of good photographs of the Indian birds, you and to some extent Vishal are such huge assets to Indian aviation buffs.
I hope to have the money and time to travel soon and cross paths with you. Will be a huge learning experience for me.
they'll even drop-in a free tripod, memory card or a camera bag to sweeten the deal.
Bhai, its great knowing you.kedar.karmarkar wrote:No worries, Indranil - you can drop the "ji" tail - just Kedar will do
The IAF has far higher standards of inspection and maintenance than a lot of other air forces. An old airframe gets old even by just sitting there - the rubber and synthetic non metal parts degrade, pipes corrode and rust occurs in hidden corners. Normally this would have to be inspected and replaced on a regular basis and I am certain that Eastern European air forces from the cold war era were doing nothing like that. This "attractive sale" purchase may be a complete disaster.Cain Marko wrote:At a time when India is spending billions of $$s on an almost daily basis for various defense related purchases, and at a time when the IAF has reached its lowest numerical strength, I really feel that grabbing such deals - HuAF fulcrums and/or Qatari M2ks is worthwhile even if it is for a premium price. These will help in easing the situation somewhat. Spending $ 1.5 billion in getting 3 sqds worth of MRCA (even used) that can easily be inducted into the existing setup at a v.quick pace would be useful.
I have pics of the Su 27 after they refurbished it. I can put them up if anyone is interested.Jagan wrote:In 2009 Pride aircraft of Illinois US, imported two Sukhoi-27UBs, had them overhauled, and zero timed and then offered them for sale at 5 million USD apiece.
The Marshal of the Indian Air Force Arjan Singh, visited the Western Air Command headquartered at Subroto Park, New Delhi today. On his arrival the Marshal was received by Air Marshal NAK Browne, Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Western Air Command and was presented a Guard of Honour.
Air Marshal Browne briefed the Marshal on the achievements of the Command as well as the recent development and progress in the entire Command with respect to the modernization programme of the IAF. While addressing the officers, the Marshal expressed his satisfaction and complimented them for their dedication and professionalism. He also shared his experiences and exhorted the air warriors to keep the IAF’s flag flying high at all times.
The Marshal of the Indian Air Force has had the distinction of having the longest tenure firstly as the Air Officer Commanding of the ‘Operational Command’ which later came to be known as Western Air Command (WAC), from 1949 to 1952 and again from 1957 to 1962 when he served as the Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief.
Please do...Shameek wrote:I have pics of the Su 27 after they refurbished it. I can put them up if anyone is interested.Jagan wrote:In 2009 Pride aircraft of Illinois US, imported two Sukhoi-27UBs, had them overhauled, and zero timed and then offered them for sale at 5 million USD apiece.
I don't think so. Certainly not in Indian Military Aviation. Probably can move to a different thread.Sandeep_ghosh wrote:Is there a helicoptor which is primarily based around a gattling gun??.
Amid heightened threat perception, the Indian Air Force is planning to deploy fighter aircraft squadrons in southern parts of the country to tackle the threat from non-state actors and to secure the sealanes.
"This is in our plans. The first two squadrons of the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) would also be based in South India and squadrons of either the M-MRCA or the Su-30 MKI would also be based there," IAF Vice Chief Air Marshal P K Barbora told reporters here on the sidelines of a function here.
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Ashok Baweja is senior technology adviser, HCL Technologies and ex-chairman, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited The views expressed by the author are personal.
Boeing has responded to an Indian Air Force Request for Proposal offering the Apache Block III. The Indian Air Force has already conducted field trials for these helicopters in July 2010. The testing has taken place in the Thar Desert in the northwest and will also happen near the Himalayan town of Ladakh in Indian-controlled Kashmir. Those sites represent the extremes the air force could find itself operating in. The Russian helicopter has not yet been cleared for testing in India.
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The package will include 12 AN/APG-78 Longbow Fire Control Radars, 12 AN/APR-48A Radar Frequency Interferometers, 812 AGM-114L-3 HELLFIRE LONGBOW missiles, 542 AGM-114R-3 HELLFIRE II missiles, 245 STINGER Block I-92H missiles, and 23 Modernized Target Acquisition Designation Sight/Pilot Night Vision Sensors, rockets.
