Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2011

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Sri » 28 Mar 2011 23:58

Abhijit wrote:I think it is immature to sulk over an invitation to groper and 10 %. In the first place, India has not declared pakis to be an axis of evil. we haven't called them terrorists on their face. now it is incumbent upon us as members of a civilized world to invite them as guests to watch the match. if you remember, even before the MB war, Krishna had visited Kauravas and Kuravas had sent their rep (was it Shakuni's son?) to Pandavas. Eventually we will have to settle our differences in an MB-like war. till then we have to observe the niceties. JMHO.

good one abhijit ji. Thing is, that we must go to war only when we are assured total and undisputed victory. When political goals are clear and when timing suits us. T

till then smoking the peace pipe is not a bad idea provided you are tirelessly working on above...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Virupaksha » 29 Mar 2011 00:46

Sri wrote:
till then smoking the peace pipe is not a bad idea provided you are tirelessly working on above...

is this happening from India's side or the Pak's side??

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Postby partha » 29 Mar 2011 00:52

http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/28/india-upbeat-after-first-round-of-talks-with-pakistan.html
NEW DELHI: India hailed “extremely positive” peace talks with Pakistan on Monday with both countries looking to build on a recent warming in relations brought on by some successful “cricket diplomacy.”

"Extremely positive" - Did Pakistan assure that there would be no more terror attacks?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby ramana » 29 Mar 2011 00:57

So why did Rehman Malik make those comments about match fixing? Which gallery he was addressing? Was it uncle to assure they will have oversight to enusre DI doesn't go overboard?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby sunnyP » 29 Mar 2011 01:50

Sunny Gavaskar from an article at rediff.

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In this context, it would be pertinent to note what Sunil Gavaskar, himself a mumbaikar, had to say on a talk show when he was asked whether Pakistan would lose the semi-final.

He said, "I doubt whether Pakistan would lose the Mohali game; Pakistanis have a special fascination for Mumbai. They keep sneaking into Mumbai by whatever route they can find and which is available. So I would not be surprised if they do it again and reach Mumbai again."

Certainly a hard hitting left hand drive from the little master who comes from a city where the wounds of 2008 carnage have still not healed, a fact which Dr Singh seems to have forgotten about.


http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/s ... 110329.htm

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby saip » 29 Mar 2011 04:05

Werent that donkey Malik and the lackey Noble (who got sitar e something or the other) crowing about Pakistani help in getting a terrorist arrested? Now that person has been released. So it must be all drama.

Maldives releases World Cup terror suspect

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 2011_pg1_2

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Gagan » 29 Mar 2011 06:25

Who in Pakistan likes Rehman Malik?

Ans: Rehman Malik himself, his wifey and kids period.

Zardari has kept him there to be a scapegoat, notice that as interior minister, he has to keep giving out statements condemning terror strikes by the talibs, he has to tackle tircky situations like the pious killing munafiqs, has to balance pressure from India on 26/11 and say that the terrorists were pakistani (inviting the ire of the Faujis and the pious). He has to play a delicate balancing act on terror and crime within, unsure of what will tick off the ISI. On top of this the pious now know that he is not up to speed on his quran recital a lacuna that he has sought to address with the utmost urgency by memorizing a few lines of the Sorut Ikhlas and giving his security guards an impromptu demonstration. :rotfl:

The poor man is Wajib-ul-qatl on many counts by all sundry. Poor chap must be lonely, a little crazy and under tremendous pressure. He is not a pushtaini politician (generational politician), and is a tad bit out of touch with reality. And so he gives out these interesting statements from time to time. Poor guy is a career cop for godssake - he thought life was all about accepting ghoos from criminals, must be rueing the day he came into politics. The rewards are immense, but chances are extremely high that he will not live long enough to savour them.

Poor Guy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Mar 2011 06:34

Sri wrote:
JE Menon wrote:Sri,

“I had given a warning yesterday (Sunday) that there should be no match fixing. This time I am watching it very closely. If any such thing happens we will take action,” Malik told reporters in Karachi Monday.



What kind of psychology one must have to give out such a statement?


The piskology is "Whatever happens, I come out looking clean. I need not even do anything and in any case I am a Paki and am powerless to change Pakiness where criminal behavior is considered normal"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby vish_mulay » 29 Mar 2011 06:39

Is Manmohan Singh Indian Naville Chamberlain? We are seeing same attitude of "save war at all cost" before WW2 playing in Indian continent. I am certain this bhaicghara is going to put us in big troble.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/pm-on ... ea/768573/


Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s decision to invite the Pakistani political leadership to the India-Pakistan World Cup semi-final at Mohali was a move straight from his desk.



There was no formal consultation with the Cabinet Committee on Security and the PMO directly faxed invitation letters to the office of the Pak President Asif Ali Zardari and Pak Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani without involving the Indian High Commission.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby somnath » 29 Mar 2011 06:50

CRamS wrote:Look, TSPA has thrown the gauntlet. Their message is clear. Give us Kashmir to even think of anything further. And in this quest, they have made no bones that pigLeTs and nukes are crucial. They have reaped huge dividends through this strategy, much less paying even an iota of a price. Under the circumstances, talking to TSPA is tantamount to abject surrender. I am with TSPA on this, but why would and why should TSPA buckle an inch from a winning strategy just because India wants to talk to them? On the contrary, it will only invite contempt and ridicule at GHQ, and rightfully so.

This is repeated time and again..Pak has reaped "huge dividends", they are "winning" etc...what is our touchstone of success? By what parameter has Pak won anything in the last 15 years?

Even for the Pak Army, Cyril Almeida put it succinctly recently, if you are the type that loves a Patiala peg in the Lahore Gymkkhana at the end of the day, take your kid out to buy the latest IPad, invest in real estate - basically the nce things in life - how has the last 15 years been? By a dint of cirumstance, luck, geopolitics, and daresay Indian manoevering, the Paki Army is caught in a sort of cleft stick that it just doesnt know how to come out of....Which is good for us...

We keep a public pretense going, while moving nowhere on what Pak wants...

C Raja Mohan on the "cricket diplomacy"...

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/playi ... e/768566/0


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Gagan » 29 Mar 2011 08:52

The Pakistani cricket team has just been put on notice.

If they lose the semifinals as they are expected to, they are going to be so wajib-ul-cuttle onlee.

I hear that each player has a black burqa in his cricket kit to slip out of the stadium at SAS Nagar and then enter pakistan quietly in the middle of the night.

If they lose, the pious will say they fixed the match and accepted money. Rehman Malik has already given the abduls back home a readymade bahana to cull the ghazis should they lose. The 11 pakis will be fighting for their lives in the stadium. Literally

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Mar 2011 08:53

Gagan wrote:The 11 pakis will be fighting for their lives in the stadium. Literally

:lol:


So they will win and India will be kicked out. If this is what creates victors I am all for using the same tactic on the Indian team.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby sum » 29 Mar 2011 09:00

Nihat wrote:I have pretty much lost all hope as far as our Pakistan policy goes, it's more misguided than a headless chicken. I just hope, wish and pray that they have mercy on us and don't slaughter too many indians (not all at once atleast).

Instead of preparing a robust military response, creating/infiltrating/purchasing intelligence assets, lobbying @ international platforms, using coercive diplomacy etc etc etc. When a 2 gram brain of mine can understand the fact that deep engagement with civilian govt. in TSP will only make the army insecure and invite terror attacks, why can't our great economist understand that.

PErhaps it's something to do with our DNA or maybe indian demographics whereby I've always noticed that North Indians tend to have much more of a "soft corner" for pakis, perhaps owing to cultural similarties , whereas leaders from other states of India (especially southern) have a much clearer picture of Pakistans hawkish stand towards India and a clearer roadmap to tackle it.

When we have a ex-Indian amby of the Af-Pak region claiming that India is at fault for opening LoC question by taking Siachen and so should make up( and tons of ex-FS and ex-IA/IN/IAF chiefs turning hardcore WKK), you can know in how much safe hands our interests are when it comes to Pak!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby sum » 29 Mar 2011 09:02

Personally, the PM, sources said, was “quite convinced”. Insiders said he had been wondering aloud about revisiting the Pakistan initiative given the fact that more than a year had passed since he had met either Zardari or Gilani.

Does MMS not get sleep at night if he doesnt meet groper/Zardari? :-?

What does does one make of the statement " a year had passed since he last met them and so, he wanted to again"??

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Mar 2011 09:17

Gagan wrote:If they lose the semifinals as they are expected to, they are going to be so wajib-ul-cuttle onlee.

Aren't they wajib-ul-qital in any case ? There are some powerful elements in TSP who call cricket 'haraami' and then there are many who will happily dub the cricketers as wajib-ul-qital if Pakistan loses against kafir India. So, the TSP Team is caught between a rock and a hard place. If they go down against India, the may not return to Pakistan for a while.

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Postby Virupaksha » 29 Mar 2011 09:19

somnath wrote:This is repeated time and again..Pak has reaped "huge dividends", they are "winning" etc...what is our touchstone of success? By what parameter has Pak won anything in the last 15 years?

Even for the Pak Army, Cyril Almeida put it succinctly recently, if you are the type that loves a Patiala peg in the Lahore Gymkkhana at the end of the day, take your kid out to buy the latest IPad, invest in real estate - basically the nce things in life - how has the last 15 years been? By a dint of cirumstance, luck, geopolitics, and daresay Indian manoevering, the Paki Army is caught in a sort of cleft stick that it just doesnt know how to come out of....Which is good for us...

so your basic argument thrust is,

look even though he has raped and murdered, he is suffering from lice and eczema. So what if he isnt jailed and punished for the rape and murder, he is suffering from lice, isnt that punishment enough??

The relatives of the raped and murdered should take into consideration the lice and forgive him. Seems like India's Shakuni has done exactly that.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Virupaksha » 29 Mar 2011 10:44


should be seen in conjunction with Rehman Malik's threat

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby RajeshA » 29 Mar 2011 10:55

Probably Rehman Malik simply wanted the betting public to go ahead and bet, so that Dawood & Co. can again make money, and Rehman Malik gets his cut!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Mar 2011 11:09

No terror threat to WC: Interpol
There is something deeply fishy here. Firstly, Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble praised Pakistan sky-high for arresting a suspect and announced a 2M Euro aid to Pakistan's FIA. In turn, Rehman Malik praised Noble for his support and the GoP gave him an award also. Within a couple of days, the arrested suspect, a Maldivian, was released ! Now, in the same press meet, Rehman Malik announced a threat to India during the WC. Now, Interpol says there is nothing. So, what is happening ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby rohitvats » 29 Mar 2011 11:51

SSridhar wrote:
sum wrote: . . . MKB mentions that India is the one who started all LoC related problem by "committing aggression in Siachen" . . . (Somehow cant locate that article to post it here. Read it on Deccanherald print edition)


See here, The Gardens of the Night at Mohali in The Hindu
I sat in the talks in the winter of 1992 in the cavernous Ministry of Defence conference room in South Block as part of the four-member Indian delegation negotiating Siachen. Honestly, my conviction is that the agreement we negotiated and would have been initialled and the press release we had drawn up and would have handed down to the media in a few minutes' time about that great moment under the flashbulbs in India-Pakistan relationship cannot be substantially improved upon. Yes, it is an eminently “doable” issue over a problem which many mistake it to be about the cost at which the Indian Army supplies chapatis to the jawans stationed in those horrible heights but is actually about healing a wound that India opened by altering the Line of Control by force — after which things were never the same again.


It is because of madarch*ds like MKB that this country has to suffer the ignominy of the strategic failures......"altering of LOC by force by Indians" my foot.....when will thus country rid of dumbf*cks like him? :evil:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Mar 2011 12:37

After 71 years
Excerpts
One speech by Mr Mohammed Ali Jinnah on August 11, 1947 — often quoted by the liberals — cannot wipe out the umpteen speeches by him and other leaders declaring that the Muslims of India need a separate homeland because they are a separate nation and want to live according to the cannons of Islam.

The question that needed to be asked was, were the Muslims of India not following Islamic teachings when they were living in India for the 1,000 years before partition? Of course they lived in India as Muslims without any challenge from other religions. On the contrary, although Muslims were a minority, they ruled India for over 800 years and it never occurred to them then that they were a separate nation. However, when it came to democracy, where numbers matter and the Hindu majority would have had the upper-hand, the Muslims were reminded — after centuries of convenient amnesia — that they were a separate nation.

So the analogy is that while running away from democracy, the Muslim elite in India acted like a spoilsport brat who, after taking his batting turn in the neighbourhood match, walks away with his bat saying that his mother needs him and hence he cannot field.

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Postby SSridhar » 29 Mar 2011 13:08

Cement production in Pakistan
He said Pakistani cement manufacturing capacity has touched 44 million tonnes annually whereas domestic demand has reduced to 23 million tonnes.

He said the short-term scenario in Pakistan was gloomy and cement demand was expected to remain stagnant.

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Postby abhijitm » 29 Mar 2011 13:10

best thing would be at the start of the match observe 2 min silence for the 26/11 victims and show a message from Hemant Karakare's wife on the giant screen.

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Postby Pratyush » 29 Mar 2011 13:49

on with the coundown to 72.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby asgkhan » 29 Mar 2011 14:00

abhijitm wrote:best thing would be at the start of the match observe 2 min silence for the 26/11 victims and show a message from Hemant Karakare's wife on the giant screen.


+ 1 to that.

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Postby Gagan » 29 Mar 2011 15:04

India and Pakistan's home secretaries meet.

News media reports that GK Pillay has said that the 'Trust Deficit' has been reduced 'significantly'

Pakistan gobernment has promised to contest the court's order that denied permission to hand over the voice samples of the 26/11 handlers to India.

There seems to be some Taqiya at display by the Pakistanis these days, specially after RAW caught them with their pants down on the Kabul embassy attack that they were planning to conduct last week. Also ever since the Pakistanis reached the semi final and now hope to win and go to play in Mumbai, there is some temporary taqiya on display.

Once the Pakistanis are out of the world cup tomorrow, the pakis will come into their true form.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Chandragupta » 29 Mar 2011 15:12

abhijitm wrote:best thing would be at the start of the match observe 2 min silence for the 26/11 victims and show a message from Hemant Karakare's wife on the giant screen.


Delete this comment before our pujya Pradhan Mantri saheb sees this. Forget 26/11, he will observe 2 min silence for Pakistani citizens killed in Samjhauta Express blast perpetrated by Yindoo terrorists. Is clown Baba also coming to see the match along with his Italian waitress mother? What about Doggy Raja? They would shamelessly beat their chests for the 'Pakistani victims' of Yindoo terror. What a great opportunity for Psy Ops! A billion clueless people watching the match, 26/11 is already forgotten, heck, people will forget the grand scale looting of their country, come next elections they will go & vote for the same party. What a stage to do pappi jhappee, the mango Indian will again go back thinking all is fine & dandy...Emerging superpower, my stinking foot...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Mar 2011 15:14

Gagan wrote:Pakistan gobernment has promised to contest the court's order that denied permission to hand over the voice samples of the 26/11 handlers to India.

Pakistan made similar moves before Yekaterinburg, before Washington, before Havana and Sharm-el-Sheikh meetings. They have absolutely no intention to pursue the 26/11 case because their deception of 'non-state actors' will collapse.

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Postby Gagan » 29 Mar 2011 15:15

Tomorrow is also NSG's raising day.

I would hope that a special tribute to Maj Sandeep Unnikrishnan, and Hawaldar Gajendra Singh Bisht be given.

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Postby abhijitm » 29 Mar 2011 16:21

more than the world cup I dont want these pigs stepping in mumbai. Thats like rubbing salt on every wounded Indian

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Postby Atri » 29 Mar 2011 17:08

AOA... 72 reached.. and I yam reborting far the first time.. aoa...

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Postby abhijitm » 29 Mar 2011 17:15

thread meets 72 before pakistani players

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2

Postby Chinmayanand » 29 Mar 2011 17:50

AoA!!! Paki dhaga has met its 72. Hope, tomorrow paki ambitions of winning the cup also meet its 72.

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A noob question. According to ISlam any place where namaz is offered becomes masjid/allah's property. What happens if they claim Mohali stadium as their religious ground :|


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