Geopolitics/Geoeconomics Thread - June 2015

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All about RAW.
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/ind ... 023-10-04/
Reuters spoke to four retired and two serving Indian security and intelligence officials familiar with RAW who said the agency was galvanized to play a more assertive international role after the 2008 Mumbai attacks that left 166 people dead. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
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All six officials denied that RAW engages in targeted killings, noting that the agency has no mandate for such operations.
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Fallout from the Vancouver incident has also raised concerns that RAW will come under greater global monitoring, Indian intelligence officials and analysts said.

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From yours truly, Financial Times, One more recycled hit piece on Adani as a pre-election fodder.... High electricity prices for consumers, suit-boot sarkar extorting consumers

The mystery of the Adani coal imports that quietly doubled in value
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A_Gupta wrote: 05 Oct 2023 10:27 All about RAW.
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/ind ... 023-10-04/
Reuters spoke to four retired and two serving Indian security and intelligence officials familiar with RAW who said the agency was galvanized to play a more assertive international role after the 2008 Mumbai attacks that left 166 people dead. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
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All six officials denied that RAW engages in targeted killings, noting that the agency has no mandate for such operations.
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Fallout from the Vancouver incident has also raised concerns that RAW will come under greater global monitoring, Indian intelligence officials and analysts said.

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RAW does carry out assassinations both directly and indirectly just like every other intelligence services out there. It has its own special operations division just like CIA SAC and ISI CAD which are tasked with very sensitive overseas assignments. They even operate in the US.
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This new attack of Hamas will cause a minor geopolitical shift. this is not the yearly round of IDF aerial strikes and then peace. this will be a long drawn out conflict and it may spread. IDF needs to be supplied and with a major portion of their population mobilized Israel needs help .

Instead of us importing Athos , israel might have to import one of the Kalyani guns if not the Ammo.
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Atmavik wrote: 14 Oct 2023 09:51...

Instead of us importing Athos , israel might have to import one of the Kalyani guns if not the Ammo.
Oh how i wish this would come true!

The import lobby across the corridors of GoI-Babucracy-Military will be hit like an earthquake. They will do their utmost to survive but they will find themselves fighting a new creation - an export lobby made up of GoI-Babucracy-Industry :D

But it won't happen - not yet at least. The US and western MIC will make it known that this is their captive war. They will make sure their munnas only get to play with the toys which only they supply.
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A_Gupta wrote: 05 Oct 2023 10:27 All about RAW.
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/ind ... 023-10-04/
Reuters spoke to four retired and two serving Indian security and intelligence officials familiar with RAW who said the agency was galvanized to play a more assertive international role after the 2008 Mumbai attacks that left 166 people dead. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.
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All six officials denied that RAW engages in targeted killings, noting that the agency has no mandate for such operations.
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Fallout from the Vancouver incident has also raised concerns that RAW will come under greater global monitoring, Indian intelligence officials and analysts said...


Gupta ji,

So easy to cook up such a hit job

No sources, no names, and no responsibility, in case things go pear shaped
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Manish_P wrote: 14 Oct 2023 13:10
Atmavik wrote: 14 Oct 2023 09:51...

Instead of us importing Athos , israel might have to import one of the Kalyani guns if not the Ammo.
The import lobby across the corridors of GoI-Babucracy-Military will be hit like an earthquake. They will do their utmost to survive but they will find themselves fighting a new creation - an export lobby made up of GoI-Babucracy-Industry :D
that will happen.. thats way things go when the size and capability of the MiInd complex reach maturity.. the home market would no longer be enough

but as Eisenhower said and what the world is experiencing now is when it gets "too" big., the entity will create its own narratives
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^^ as Manohar Parikar used to say we need to become a crucial cog in the global arms supply chain and then trust our folks ingenuity to move up the value chain. If luck is with us in 2024 and abit of support from the forces the tables can be turned in 5 yrs
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drnayar wrote: 14 Oct 2023 17:05 ..
that will happen.. thats way things go when the size and capability of the MiInd complex reach maturity.. the home market would no longer be enough

but as Eisenhower said and what the world is experiencing now is when it gets "too" big., the entity will create its own narratives
I am sure we will cross that bridge when we come to it... for now i would like us to make all speed possible to reach that bridge.
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Arkansas has asked a Chinese seed company to divest all assets in the state within 2 years. Arkansas deemed the Chinese company a national threat. Apparently the Chinese were using dual used techs to "steal" and send the tech back to China.

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NRao wrote: 18 Oct 2023 00:52 Arkansas has asked a Chinese seed company to divest all assets in the state within 2 years. Arkansas deemed the Chinese company a national threat. Apparently the Chinese were using dual used techs to "steal" and send the tech back to China.


This is what the RAW has been warning about Chinese disguised as Nepalis doing in India !!

God knows the extent of their activities
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A Sanatani brain in action. :rotfl:

I really feel bad for others. :)

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2 ... mi5-head

A key attack vector, McCallum said, was to try and steal information by Chinese actors posing as recruitment consultants on LinkedIn. “We think we’re above 20,000 cases where that initial approach has been made online through sites of that sort,” he said, compared to 10,000 two and a half years ago.

On Tuesday, the agency said it was aware of 20 instances of Chinese companies considering or pursuing use of “obfuscated investment, imaginative company structures” to circumvent regulations in order to gain access to technology developed by British companies and in universities.

Same for India...lax legal loopholes ," Nepalese " working against the state
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Wow. Been approached by hot/smart looking Chinese women on LI. Always wondered what the game was, since the qualifications and work history looked dubious at first glance.
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NRao wrote:A Sanatani brain in action.
The discussion is good, but in State of Karnataka it is freebie time at the expense of Bengaluru. BTW the city is facing numerous power cuts and traffic has become a total nightmare. Metro is very slow in expansion. The GoI is working at giving loans to everyone based on your history (AA account aggregator framework), this has been mentioned by Nandan Nilekani. The AA framework will democratize credit so that millions of consumers without any credit history, and millions of small businesses that could not get a loan earlier, now have access to credit. India’s credit to GDP ratio is relatively lower when compared with other countries (less than 60%), and even then, a lot of credit is going to the big players, while the small businesses and new consumers are not getting access. This (AA) will make credit accessible to both these categories. UPI, ONDC and AA will make India unique in the world. Another in the works ODR (online dispute resolution).
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Hope our AA credit scores won't follow the American model where as long as you keep paying minimum your score remains high.
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There are other parts of the world that matter.

We are going to slow-cook WW-III

Poland seems to have got a Neocon!!! I am not too sure. Let us see.

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Please post the article

https://t.co/VBczqvetfd
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ramana wrote: 19 Oct 2023 04:41 Please post the article

https://t.co/VBczqvetfd
This is really a must read article that summarized everything current.
US Stretched Thin as Ukraine Offensive Fails, Israelis Threaten Large-Scale Conflict

As Ukraine’s “spring counteroffensive” nears five months of intense fighting and equally intense losses achieving only negligible gains, Kiev’s sponsors in Washington, London, and Brussels find their military stockpiles nearing depletion and their military industrial base stretched far beyond capacity. This single conflict has tested the limits of US military power, diplomatic reach, and economic influence, exposing significant and growing weakness.

At the same time cracks begin to emerge militarily, diplomatically, and economically in the US and among its European allies, the rest of the globe continues its pivot away from the previous US-dominated global order, toward a broader balance of power under multipolarism, further undermining US foreign policy objectives.

Rather than reflect on this paradigm shift and find a rational place for the collective West in this emerging global order, the US and its allies are doubling down in an attempt to reassert their slipping international system and specifically through the use of proxy conflicts.

Just as the US-led collective West is using Ukraine as a focal point to confront, encircle, and contain Russia, the US has maintained Israel as a foothold in the Middle East for decades vis-à-vis Iran and its allies.
That simply sums up everything. Rest of the article is also good. This is like a summary of everything post-pandemic world.
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US Stretched Thin as Ukraine Offensive Fails, Israelis Threaten Large-Scale Conflict - Author: Brian Berletic

As Ukraine’s “spring counteroffensive” nears five months of intense fighting and equally intense losses achieving only negligible gains, Kiev’s sponsors in Washington, London, and Brussels find their military stockpiles nearing depletion and their military industrial base stretched far beyond capacity. This single conflict has tested the limits of US military power, diplomatic reach, and economic influence, exposing significant and growing weakness.

At the same time cracks begin to emerge militarily, diplomatically, and economically in the US and among its European allies, the rest of the globe continues its pivot away from the previous US-dominated global order, toward a broader balance of power under multipolarism, further undermining US foreign policy objectives.

Rather than reflect on this paradigm shift and find a rational place for the collective West in this emerging global order, the US and its allies are doubling down in an attempt to reassert their slipping international system and specifically through the use of proxy conflicts.

Just as the US-led collective West is using Ukraine as a focal point to confront, encircle, and contain Russia, the US has maintained Israel as a foothold in the Middle East for decades vis-à-vis Iran and its allies.

In East Asia, the US maintains a presence of tens of thousands of American troops in South Korea and Japan, while expanding its military presence in its former colony of The Philippines. It also has heavily invested in separatist elements on the Chinese island province of Taiwan, setting up the same sort of dynamics seen in Ukraine and Israel that have led to violent conflict in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

It stands to reason that if Washington’s proxy war with Russia in Ukraine is unsustainable and a losing proposition, compounding the strain on US military, diplomatic, and economic power by investing in one or more additional proxy wars around the globe will only accelerate the collapse of US primacy around the globe and the rise of multipolarism.
Ukraine: A Failing Proxy War
A recent New York Times article titled, "Has Support for Ukraine Peaked? Some Fear So” , highlights growing concern over Washington’s stretched global ambitions. It notes that with growing hostilities in the Middle East and US military aid now being divided between two US proxies, Ukraine and Israel, there is a growing realization that difficult decisions will be necessary.

The article also admits that even before conflict erupted in the Middle East between Israel and Hamas, expanding into a broader and large-scale Israeli military operation against the Palestinians, both support for and interest in Ukraine was already waning.

Beyond political will, the New York Times admits to technical limitations of Western support for its proxies globally.

The article admits:
European vows to supply one million artillery shells to Ukraine by March are falling short, with countries supplying only 250,000 shells from stocks — a little more than one month of Ukraine’s current rate of fire — and factories still gearing up for more production.

Adm. Rob Bauer, who is the chairman of the NATO Military Committee, said in Warsaw that Europe’s military industry had geared up too slowly and still needed to pick up the pace.
It should be noted that a previous New York Times article revealed that Russia is currently producing as many artillery shells annually as the combined output of the US and Europe if production is expanded by 2025 at the earliest.

Even if the West could rally both political and public support for not only Ukraine, but also Israel, the limitations of the West’s combined military industrial base simply cannot deliver the material support needed to match it.

Israeli Military Gears Up For War, Diverts Military Support for Ukraine
Following the October 7, 2023 Hamas raids into Israeli-held territory, the Israeli military has begun carrying out large-scale military operations against the inhabitants of Gaza as well as strikes on southern Lebanon and airports in Syria. A military incursion into Gaza alone will require huge amounts of artillery and aerial munitions, as well as small arms ammuniton.

While the US government claims it is capable of supplying both Israel and Ukraine, it is clear that if support was already falling far short of requirements in Ukraine, dividing it among Ukraine and now Israel means US military support will be stretched even thinner still.

In a Politico article titled, Planes have already taken off: U.S. sends Israel air defense, munitions after Hamas attack admits:
The needs of the Israelis and Ukrainians are different in some key respects. Israel will rely heavily on precision air-to-ground munitions fired from F-16 and F-35 fighter jets and Apache helicopters, none of which is in the Ukrainian arsenal. The issue of 155mm artillery shells, which both countries rely on heavily, will likely loom large, however:
The US has already transferred 300,000 rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition from stockpiles maintained in Israel for both US and Israeli use, to Ukraine. Now 155mm rounds will be flowing back into Israel.

It should be pointed out that Israel also operates M270 multiple launch rocket systems, which fire the same GPS-guided rockets as the HIMARS vehicles the US transferred to Ukraine. There has so far been no discussion of transferring such rockets to Israel and if this will impact shipments of this ammunition to Ukraine, but as CNN pointed out in a May 2023 article, Ukraine’s daily rate of fire was already a meager 18 rockets.

In 2006, Israel’s failed ground incursion into southern Lebanon was accompanied by an intense nation-wide aerial bombardment of Lebanon using a variety of aerial munitions including guided bombs. In less than a month of intense military operations, Israel’s stockpiles were depleted, and as the New York Times reported at the time, additional munitions were rushed from US stockpiles to Israel.

Protracted Israeli military operations will broaden the drain on US military stockpiles and military industrial output across even more weapons and munitions than Ukraine has.

And Taiwan Too…
t cannot be forgotten that the third focal point of Washington’s Russia-China containment policy, Taiwan, also requires large amounts of munitions to prepare for a conflict the US is openly attempting to provoke with the rest of China.

Even as the US intensifies its pressure on China over Taiwan, America’s stretched military industrial base is struggling to meet even previously agreed upon arms sales.

Bloomberg in its September 2023 article, “Taiwan Arms Supply Is Hobbled by Slow Contractors, US Official Says,” admitted:
Delays in US delivery of promised weapons to Taiwan stem more from defense industry shortcomings than government inefficiency, according to a State Department official handling foreign arms sales.

“We need to work together to encourage our partners in industry to take more risks, be more flexible, diversify their supply chains and act with deliberate speed to expand production capacity,” Mira Resnick, deputy assistant secretary in the Bureau of Political Military Affairs, said in prepared remarks for a hearing Tuesday by the House Armed Services Committee.
Expanding physical production facilities, channeling larger amounts of raw materials and basic components into these facilities, and manning them with sufficient human resources depend on other prerequisite investments to be made, such as in construction, mining, upstream manufacturing, and education.

Thus, despite the ease with which US officials demand military industrial production be expanded, doing so is a resource and time-intensive process that will take years if and only if both the US government and Western arms manufacturers agree to significantly expand production. This takes place at the same time both Russia and China continue expanding their own industrial bases, including the production of military equipment, weapons, and ammunition.

For US, proxy wars to have succeeded, Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan would have needed US military industrial production expanded years ago.

It is clear US geostrategic planning attempted to produce a strategy that achieved its objectives with what it had on hand. This strategy was swallowed up in Ukraine, with the remnants being divided between a depleted Ukrainian military and a nascent Israeli military operation that could escalate out of control.

This leaves US policymakers with two options; increasingly extreme and dangerous options including direct interventions in Ukraine, the Middle East, and against China in what could escalate into nuclear war or a pivot away from achieving global primacy and finding a proportional role for the US to play among, rather than above, all other nations.

The future of the United States will take the shape of either an overextended empire involuntarily retreating into irrelevance and destitution, or a powerful member of the multipolar world prioritizing the rebuilding of its industrial base, infrastructure, and its education system to trade with and contribute alongside the rest of the world. The longer the US invests in the former option, the longer and more difficult the transition will be to the latter.
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Only a placeholder.

A lot of data points. Israel/Hamas, BRICS, (irrelevant Putin) IMO the most potent topic: Modi/Jaishankar (which they avoid).

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More about stand-up comics.

:rotfl:

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Reliance Industries Considering To Acquire Israel's Tower Semiconductor: Report


https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/reli ... tor-report
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Yesterday, on PGuru, Sumit Peer claimed that Russia is negotiating a deal between India and China that the other will not intervene in PoK and Taiwan.
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NRao wrote: 22 Oct 2023 21:49 Yesterday, on PGuru, Sumit Peer claimed that Russia is negotiating a deal between India and China that the other will not intervene in PoK and Taiwan.
Interesting but maybe India wants POK territory, but not the people !!
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NRao wrote: 22 Oct 2023 21:49 Yesterday, on PGuru, Sumit Peer claimed that Russia is negotiating a deal between India and China that the other will not intervene in PoK and Taiwan.
That's only China will benifit, for one I don't think India will attack to recapture it.
Second China would not like to see India consolidate PoK as next logical will be to consolidate Aksai Hind.

China will agree till the time it has not consolidated Taiwan
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NRao wrote: 22 Oct 2023 21:49 Yesterday, on PGuru, Sumit Peer claimed that Russia is negotiating a deal between India and China that the other will not intervene in PoK and Taiwan.
That's only China will benifit, for one I don't think India will attack to recapture it.
Second China would not like to see India consolidate PoK as next logical will be to consolidate Aksai Hind.

China will agree till the time it has not consolidated Taiwan
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This is an AI generated summary. There may be inaccuracies.


00:00:00 In this section, the speaker acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which the Loy Institute stands and sends their best wishes to friends in Israel following a recent attack. They then introduce the distinguished International Fellow, Shiv Shanka Menan, who will deliver the 2023 Owen Harries Lecture. The speaker reflects on the legacy of Owen Harries, a foreign policy legend who passed away in 2020 and encourages Menan to follow his example of being realistic, self-controlled, and discriminatory in a positive way. The speaker then turns to the topic of the lecture, addressing the changes in Asia's geopolitics.
00:05:00 In this section, the speaker discusses the changing geopolitics of Asia and the risks to the peace and prosperity that has been achieved in the region in the past few decades. The view expressed is that we are now in an era of great power rivalry and competition, with the balance of power shifting rapidly. The response of the world to global threats has been inadequate, and there has been no binding international agreement on a transnational issue for decades. The speaker argues that the operating system that keeps us going is based on general rules of the road, such as peaceful settlement of disputes and freedom of the high seas, that major powers choose to respect or disregard depending on the cost. The world is now multi-polar in economic terms, with at least three large economic regions, but militarily it is unipolar, with only one superpower that can project military force globally. Politically, the world is increasingly local, populist, and authoritarian, with local considerations driving international decisions to a greater extent than ever before. Technology has redefined and redistributed power and made it intangible, empowering both states and non-states.
00:10:00 In this section, Owen Harries discusses the impact of globalization and the changing geopolitical landscape in Asia. He highlights the more even distribution of power in Asia compared to previous eras, such as World War II or the Cold War. Harries also notes the increasing militarization and nuclearization in the region, which has created a heightened risk of conflict. He mentions the conflict in the East China Sea, Yemen, and the Middle East as potential sources of violence. Additionally, Harries addresses the rise of authoritarian leaders and nationalism, which has made diplomacy and negotiation more difficult. Despite these challenges, he asserts that the balance of power and economic growth have kept the peace in Asia since the Vietnam War.
00:15:00 In this section, Owen Harries discusses the changes in Asia's geopolitical landscape and the role of India in balancing power in the region. He highlights the shifts in the balance of power, the rise of China, and increased defense and security cooperation among Asian countries. Harries also discusses the use of issue-based coalitions of the willing and the importance of adapting to new opportunities and challenges in the region.
00:20:00 In this section, Owen Harries discusses India's role in shaping Asia's geopolitics. He highlights various aspects that could influence the region's policies, including China's trajectory, the world economy, multilateralism, and the middle class in the global South. Harries notes that China's growth has resulted in economic restructuring and that other countries such as India must also navigate this process. He also emphasizes the importance of the world economy in dealing with issues plurilaterally and other coalitions. Additionally, Harries addresses the challenges presented by the middle class in the global South, which is looking for alternatives to address the big transnational challenges, such as climate change, global debt, and terrorism. While Harries does not believe that there is a risk of conflict between great powers, he warns that civil war and proxy wars are a higher risk in the areas surrounding India.
00:25:00 In this section, the speaker discusses India's role in Asia's changing geopolitics. They note that the country has grown to become the fifth-largest economy in the world and the home of a new, influential middle class with different ideas about India's place in the world. Despite ongoing debates about policy and how to achieve a peaceful periphery, the speaker argues that Indian behavior remains consistent and shaped by factors such as geography, history, resource endowment, and interests. They cite examples such as India's policy on climate change and its integration with the world economy, which have both grown alongside India's capability. The speaker also acknowledges the need for India to hold two contradictory ideas in their head when looking at the world, given the country's continental and maritime security issues, and the fact that its largest land boundary dispute is with China. They conclude by noting that the relationship between India and Australia is growing as India works to transform itself and see Australia as a partner that can contribute to this transformation.
00:30:00 In this section of the consultation, Dr. Shankar spoke about India's role in Asia's changing geopolitics and described the new frameworks of cooperation in Asia Pacific and Maritime Asia as open and inclusive. He highlighted the positive improvements in the relationship between India and Australia and expressed hope that they can work together to ensure a peaceful region. He also discussed the multi-directional foreign policy of Prime Minister Modi and India's improving relations with the West. He explained that despite the rise of China and shifts in geopolitics that he was talking about, India's conviction that good relations with the US, the West, and China are necessary for transforming India into a strong and open society. He expressed confidence that Indian foreign policy will continue to evolve with whichever government is elected.
00:35:00 In this section, the speaker discusses India's role in Asia's changing geopolitics. They highlight the consistency of India's actions, regardless of the official terminology used by different governments. The speaker notes that India's closer proximity to the West is an adjustment to today's geopolitics, and they discuss the term "Indo-Pacific" and its usefulness for highlighting the United body of water and the rim lands in the region. They also express their concern about the potential for naval dominance to overshadow the importance of armies in the region. In relation to Australia's initiative with the United States and the United Kingdom to operate nuclear-powered submarines, the speaker notes that there are different opinions in India and that elements on the right may envy such capabilities. Overall, the speaker emphasizes the importance of taking a prudent and discriminatory approach to strategic decision-making in Asia's changing geopolitics.
00:40:00 In this section, Owen Harries discusses the India's role in Asia's changing geopolitics. He highlights the classical dilemma between forward policy and defensive reactive policy, and how the situation in the South China Sea changes this calculation for many countries across the region. He notes that while there have been negative reactions to China's Bastian strategy, India has been on the positive side, as it opens up space for others. Harries also touches on the controversy surrounding the allegations made by Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau against the Indian government in the murder of a Canadian citizen and activist on Canadian soil. He acknowledges that he doesn't have the intelligence agencies' perspective but says that the governments have been cautious and careful not to tarnish their relationship with evidence or leaks from the media, which suggests they want to protect the relationship and are looking for a cooperative solution. Harries also discusses the recent terror attacks by Hamas on Israel, resulting in over 700 casualties and over 100 hostages, which again underscores the need for cooperation in the region.
00:45:00 In this section, the interviewee reflects on their initial reaction to the terrorist attack in Gaza and expresses concern for their friends in Israel. They discuss how the attack could potentially impact the political landscape in the Middle East and the course of Israeli internal politics. There is speculation that the attack could hinder the progress made towards a new Middle East characterized by improved relations between Israel and some Gulf states. However, the interviewee does not completely write off the possibility of positive developments in the future, but acknowledges that the attacks may temporarily postpone progress. They also mention the potential impact of the upcoming American election cycle on the US's involvement in the region. Overall, they believe that despite the challenges, the shifting interests of various parties in the Middle East may ultimately lead to the continuation of the previous positive developments.
00:50:00 In this section, Owen Harries discusses India's role in Asia's changing geopolitics, including the basic interests involved on both sides and the failure of the US system to work as intended. Harries asserts that the US system is designed to fail, and that it has coped with multiple crises and defeats throughout its history. He is not overly concerned about the direction of the US politics, but acknowledges that it may be difficult to deal with some of the tactical stuff. Harries then turns to India's military relations and discusses the trend towards increasing defense imports from the West and domestic manufacturing. He notes, however, that some of the main platforms are still Russian, and that there may be an increase in indigenization as well.
00:55:00 In this section, the speaker discusses various elements that have shaped India's role in Asia's changing geopolitics in recent years. He notes that Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting dependence on China have led India to consider diversifying its sources beyond the West and Indigenous. However, the speaker claims that the transformation of India's strategic culture, particularly the influence of Hindutva ideology, is not as significant as it may seem. The speaker further explains that India's practice is more consistent than the change, and S. Jaishankar's external affairs ministry is acceding to Australia's bilateral relations as the most common interest shared by India and Australia. The speaker suggests that India and Australia should collaborate in building resilience, providing public goods, and engaging in development initiatives in Maritime Asia.
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isubodh wrote: 22 Oct 2023 23:10
NRao wrote: 22 Oct 2023 21:49 Yesterday, on PGuru, Sumit Peer claimed that Russia is negotiating a deal between India and China that the other will not intervene in PoK and Taiwan.
That's only China will benifit, for one I don't think India will attack to recapture it.
India would benefit in the sense that China will be free to turn its attentions more toward Taiwan/Pacific/USA, and away from us.
That likewise increases our leverage with the Americans.

But such a deal would have to cover more than just POK, and would have to include entire border including Arunachal Pradesh.
After all, Chinese territorial claims against Arunachal Pradesh are much larger than against Ladakh.
Second China would not like to see India consolidate PoK as next logical will be to consolidate Aksai Hind.
I thought our name for Aksai Chin is supposed to be Gosthana (not that we even use it, officially)
China will agree till the time it has not consolidated Taiwan
That can describe Chinese behaviour on anything. They'll agree on anything until it's no longer in their interest to.
In other words, we have to expect such behaviour from them, as a baseline expectation.
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If the baseline expectation is that they will turn on an agreement at their choosing, then why have the agreement in the first place?
It would be prudent to ask them to first honor existing agreements and go back from their forward locations.
Or, if I was playing 56d chess, go for the agreement and use the Taiwan clash to my advantage at my choosing.
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If China starts respecting existing agreements only then will any new agreements make any sense. Assuming that Putin's mediation story is true, this is pretty much what India would have told him.

And what will Putin do if his "limitless partner" breaks agreements? Nothing.

Its time PGurus fellow stops such kite flying, his channel is increasingly floating such dumbo theories.
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IMO, the only Abrahamic I would make a deal with and be confident is a Jew. The rest Christians, Muslims, and Marxists have built-in mechanisms in their Holy books to break contracts as they please and while making contracts be as untruthful as possible.
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So much for FTAs!! :rotfl:

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https://ecfr.eu/publication/strategic-i ... le-powers/
A taxonomy of middle powers
To build a more strategic approach to interdependence, Europeans have much to learn from the middle powers that are shaping the new order. With slight violence to the diversity of these countries, we have identified four basic groups:

The peace preservationists


Across the Indo-Pacific, the dominant factor reshaping the international order is the rise of China and its global economic, military, and political implications. It is the region in which the systemic competition between the US and China is the most palpable. Many of the countries in this region are therefore peace preservationists – focused on managing the rise of China as a hegemonic power and avoiding war. Indonesia is perhaps the clearest example, defining its own foreign policy strategy as “independent and active” and emphasising non-alignment, neutrality, and stability.

Other powers in the region, such as Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan, respond to the rise of China by aligning themselves closely with the US in an attempt to maintain the US-led order that ensures their interests. At the same time, in their economic and technological relationships, east Asian players are all highly dependent on China as a market and as part of their supply chains. They therefore see an absolute imperative in avoiding conflict between the US and China even as they accept they need to de-risk their relations with Beijing to some degree.
The America hedgers

These countries have traditionally belonged to the United States’ sphere of influence but are now trying to hedge against overdependence on the US by engaging with new partners. The energy potential of the two regions of the America hedgers that this paper explores – Latin America and the Gulf – means that they have growing leverage in their relations with larger powers.

The historical interventionism of the US has shaped Latin America’s foreign policy. During the cold war, the US often treated Latin America like its geopolitical “back garden”, pushing back hard if countries of the region risked the slightest flirtation with the Soviet bloc. The resulting policies, as well as the harsh economic adjustment policies of the Washington consensus, left a legacy of authoritarian regimes, polarised societies, and civil conflicts in many Latin American countries. Partially as a result, these societies often exhibit a notable strain of anti-Americanism.

Other prominent examples of America hedgers include key Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) states, such as Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), which have grown doubtful of longstanding US security guarantees. They are now assertively setting their own agendas and pursuing transactional relationships with different global players in what they perceive as a multipolar order. Both Saudi Arabia and the UAE increasingly consider themselves to be major shaping actors that no longer need to accept ‘diktats’ from outside powers. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the resulting global scramble for allies and energy has solidified this view.
The post-colonial dreamers

This group includes former colonies in Africa and central Asia, which, like the America hedgers, are trying to throw off the yoke of their former colonial masters once and for all by building up relations with almost everyone else. Some have long been non-aligned countries and are reinventing this for a new age. Others are trying non-alignment for the first time. Unlike the America hedgers though, many of the post-colonial dreamers lack the wherewithal to challenge their former patrons outright.

The prevailing view in African states is that the existing world order is an expression of the deeper, inequitable power dynamics. Multiplying global crises such as the covid-19 pandemic and the climate emergency have hit Africa the hardest. Unlike the global north, poorer African nations lack the option of running up national debt or creating stimulus packages to buffer global crises. They therefore remain deeply reliant on international aid from all partners to weather such onslaughts.
The polyamorous powers


Unlike the America hedgers and the post-colonial dreamers, the polyamorous powers are not trying to defend their sovereignty against any specific country. As powers with a clear upward trajectory, they are confident enough about their role in the next global order that they are happy to enter into relationships with all manner of partners. Turkey, for example, finds itself in an open relationship with the West, while India is completely untethered and more than happy to play the field.

Finally, in their approach towards the polyamorous powers, such as India and Turkey, Europe must be especially clear-eyed about the transactional nature of any relationship. Europeans should therefore engage with them squarely on the basis of converging interests. Any cooperation with these countries will be temporary by nature and conditioned on a clear sense of mutual benefit. The IMEC provides potential in the fields of energy and infrastructure to build upon as an example.
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A keeper.

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https://twitter.com/Starboy2079/status/ ... 3-eSw&s=19

In the context of the Israel conflict the agenda of the Deep State to induce a third world war between Israel and Islamic countries resulting in mutual destruction is explained by @Starboy2079 in the link above which is an easy-to-read X thread. It may be an exaggeration or false, but worth looking at as other aspects of the Deep State are coming true now as explained by him.

For those who want some background information please read the below.

In the Hamas attack on Israel. Oct 2023 thread 20th page I had written about the plan of the Deep State as explained by @Starboy2079 in X. It may look outlandish, but the continued suicidal moves by Western powers such as denial of religion/spirituality, LGBTQ agendas, open border policies for Islamic extremists etc shows that the Deep State concept should not be easily ignored.

For those who want more information on this subject, several X threads made by @Starboy2079 are provided on that page as mentioned above which explains that communism and LGBTQ are essentially part of the satanic agenda of the Deep State.
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The question is 'to what end?'
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