Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby JTull » 19 Feb 2019 13:46

pushkar.bhat wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:To be fair radio licences were only phased out in 1971 in Britain. They were ostensibly to fund radio programming unlike advertisements in the US


BTW You still have a TV License in UK. Speaking of India - I think we have moved forward on that one.


Britain is not the only one. Japan, for sure, has the same.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Singha » 19 Feb 2019 13:49

fatal impact between 2 surkya kiran during final practice over yelehanka.
3 pilots 2 ejected 1 maybe kia

check livefist.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Haridas » 19 Feb 2019 13:51

suryag wrote:Haridas sir- why couldn’t they fix the problem

^^ basically they need time and money to design a new aircraft. But the program is already kaput on both.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Rakesh » 24 Feb 2019 05:42

SAAW SOON: HAL’s Souped-Up Hawk Trainer All Set To Fire Indian Anti-Airfield Weapon
https://www.livefistdefence.com/2019/02 ... eapon.html

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Neshant » 24 Feb 2019 07:45

Great information on the LCH from designers itself.

Please visit the youtube link and give it a thumbs up. :!:

LCH is going to be an export success.


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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Austin » 25 Feb 2019 10:51

IAF Mig-21 Type 77 versus 2 Mirage 2000 by Air Commodore SS Tyagi

Image

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Austin » 25 Feb 2019 11:36

HAL revives intermediate jet trainer programme to help rookie IAF pilots

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... s-5595606/

An intermediate trainer jet progamme — to help rookie Indian Air Force pilots transition smoothly from basic trainers to advanced jet trainers — which was shelved six years ago after multiple failures is being revived again, and a new improved IJT will fly as early as April 2019, a senior official from the PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) said.

“The IJT project has been revived. The spin problem, which had grounded the aircraft, has been addressed. There will be a flight in April of an IJT,’’ Arup Chatterjee, HAL’s Director (Engineering and R&D), said on Thursday on the sidelines of Aero India 2019.


The IJT, also known as Hindustan Jet Trainer 36, is an aircraft indigenously designed and developed by HAL to replace its own Kiran jet trainers —- which were made from 1964 to 1989 and are now being retired from IAF service on account of their vintage.

HAL, which has also been building a basic trainer to replace its own obsolete HPT 32 trainers, has developed the HTT-40 or Hindustan Turboprop Trainer and is demonstrating it for the first time in public at Aero India 2019.

“The HTT-40 exceeds the preliminary services qualitative requirements on most fronts and offers a technologically advanced product than its competitor,” HAL’s engineering and R&D director said.


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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Katare » 25 Feb 2019 12:11

Actually MoD said they have started the process to close the progam as per SCOD report from January.

May be they changed their mind!

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Kakarat » 25 Feb 2019 12:59

when there were new of HJT-36 program getting closed I was wondering since our plane man IR had hinted that there will be some good news on it shortly, now this clears things.
Have to see what changes have been made to correct the short comings

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Singha » 25 Feb 2019 13:08

it was a mistake to cancel any trainer program. one can never have enough trainer a/c or a/c projects. a growing nation needs lot of projects to flower.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby ks_sachin » 25 Feb 2019 13:36

Singha wrote:it was a mistake to cancel any trainer program. one can never have enough trainer a/c or a/c projects. a growing nation needs lot of projects to flower.

But you gotta be able to use them for training unlike the IJT!!

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Khalsa » 25 Feb 2019 13:46

Austin wrote:IAF Mig-21 Type 77 versus 2 Mirage 2000 by Air Commodore SS Tyagi

what a sheer beauty to read saar. Where is this from ? Source please.

Reminds of an Australian or UK pilot on deputation to French Air Force. He remarked that the french top gun suffered from one critical issue.
Mirages fought against mirages and the ended up getting ignorant about the aircraft capability of other a/c.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby tsarkar » 28 Feb 2019 19:10

Our Air Force One (or Air India One)

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/i ... tion-suite

WASHINGTON, February 6, 2019 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of two (2) 777 Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures (LAIRCM) Self-Protection Suites (SPS) for an estimated cost of $190 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of India has requested to buy two (2) Self-Protection Suites (SPS) consisting of AN/AAQ 24(V)N Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures (LAIRCM), ALQ-211(V)8 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS), and AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing System (CMDS) to protect two (2) Boeing-777 Head-of-State aircraft. This potential sale would include: twelve (12) Guardian Laser Transmitter Assemblies AN/AAQ-24 (V)N (6 installed and 6 spares); eight (8) LAIRCM System Processor Replacements (LSPR) AN/AAQ-24 (V)N (2 installed and 6 spares); twenty-three (23) Missile Warning Sensors (MWS) for AN/AAQ-24 (V)N (12 installed and 11 spares); five (5) AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing System (CMDS) (2 installed and 3 spares). Also included in this sale are Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDEWS), LAIRCM CIURs, SCAs, HCCs, and UDM cards, initial spares, consumables, repair and return support, support equipment, Self-Protection Suite (SPS) engineering design, integration, hardware integration, flight test and certification, selective availability anti-spoofing modules (SAASM), warranties, publications and technical documentation, training and training equipment, field service representatives; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated cost is $190 million.


BTW Pakistani F-16's use a version of the same EWS
https://www.aviationreportglobal.com/20 ... s-from-us/

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby JTull » 28 Feb 2019 20:25

tsarkar wrote:Our Air Force One (or Air India One)

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/i ... tion-suite

WASHINGTON, February 6, 2019 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to India of two (2) 777 Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures (LAIRCM) Self-Protection Suites (SPS) for an estimated cost of $190 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.

The Government of India has requested to buy two (2) Self-Protection Suites (SPS) consisting of AN/AAQ 24(V)N Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures (LAIRCM), ALQ-211(V)8 Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS), and AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing System (CMDS) to protect two (2) Boeing-777 Head-of-State aircraft. This potential sale would include: twelve (12) Guardian Laser Transmitter Assemblies AN/AAQ-24 (V)N (6 installed and 6 spares); eight (8) LAIRCM System Processor Replacements (LSPR) AN/AAQ-24 (V)N (2 installed and 6 spares); twenty-three (23) Missile Warning Sensors (MWS) for AN/AAQ-24 (V)N (12 installed and 11 spares); five (5) AN/ALE-47 Counter-Measures Dispensing System (CMDS) (2 installed and 3 spares). Also included in this sale are Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suites (AIDEWS), LAIRCM CIURs, SCAs, HCCs, and UDM cards, initial spares, consumables, repair and return support, support equipment, Self-Protection Suite (SPS) engineering design, integration, hardware integration, flight test and certification, selective availability anti-spoofing modules (SAASM), warranties, publications and technical documentation, training and training equipment, field service representatives; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistical and program support. The total estimated cost is $190 million.


BTW Pakistani F-16's use a version of the same EWS
https://www.aviationreportglobal.com/20 ... s-from-us/


It is unreasonable to compare the EWS on a fighter to one that is costing $190mln (for 2 aircraft). Either your assessment of them being same-same is incorrect or you're implying India is paying ridiculously high price.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Rishi_Tri » 06 Mar 2019 05:30

Austin wrote:HAL revives intermediate jet trainer programme to help rookie IAF pilots

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... s-5595606/

An intermediate trainer jet progamme — to help rookie Indian Air Force pilots transition smoothly from basic trainers to advanced jet trainers — which was shelved six years ago after multiple failures is being revived again, and a new improved IJT will fly as early as April 2019, a senior official from the PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) said.

“The IJT project has been revived. The spin problem, which had grounded the aircraft, has been addressed. There will be a flight in April of an IJT,’’ Arup Chatterjee, HAL’s Director (Engineering and R&D), said on Thursday on the sidelines of Aero India 2019.


The IJT, also known as Hindustan Jet Trainer 36, is an aircraft indigenously designed and developed by HAL to replace its own Kiran jet trainers —- which were made from 1964 to 1989 and are now being retired from IAF service on account of their vintage.

HAL, which has also been building a basic trainer to replace its own obsolete HPT 32 trainers, has developed the HTT-40 or Hindustan Turboprop Trainer and is demonstrating it for the first time in public at Aero India 2019.

“The HTT-40 exceeds the preliminary services qualitative requirements on most fronts and offers a technologically advanced product than its competitor,” HAL’s engineering and R&D director said.



Was reading somewhere that BAE Systems has helped with redesign of tail section to get over the spin and stall related issues. If IJT has to fly in April, it may in all probability be undergoing Taxi trials right now.

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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Karan M » 06 Mar 2019 07:47

JTull wrote:It is unreasonable to compare the EWS on a fighter to one that is costing $190mln (for 2 aircraft). Either your assessment of them being same-same is incorrect or you're implying India is paying ridiculously high price.


His point is that we are getting the same AIDEWS as PAF F-16s, only that the Indian package includes the AIDEWS + LAIRCM + MWS + spares & other subassemblies (suitable for a large aircraft).

Very interesting find. :wink:


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Re: Indian Military Aviation - 21 Sept 2015

Postby Rahul M » 06 Mar 2019 11:30

Time for new thread people.


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