Indian Railways Thread (Dec 2015)

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Oct 2023 11:05

Zynda wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 06:26 Not sure if vsunder saar still visits here...what ever happpened to running VB & other trains @130 kph between SBC & MAS. Last I heard, JTJ-AKK has been cleared for 130 but JTJ-Whitefield line is still at 110 onlee...SWR had said that July of 2023, 130 kph operations will be possible. I hope at least by this year end, increased speed operations is possible on the entire line.

Zynda ji,

AFAIK, speed limitations are due to the curvature in the tracks at certain points that imposes speed restrictions for safety reasons. This may not be so easily solvable

maybe that's where the delay is coming from and hopefully they are working to solve it.

That said, at times, trade-offs may be the better way to go....

ritesh · Post by **ritesh** » 19 Oct 2023 22:15

venkat_kv wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023 01:26
chetak wrote: ↑18 Oct 2023 22:46

ritesh ji,

One agrees wholeheartedly with you but there are few points to consider:

Goa is excellently connected via sea, road, and air and their main industry is tourism and iron ore exports

Various financial strata of visitors have adapted to their own affordable means of transport

Railways in cashmere is a political issue. Cost is not of any consequence or consideration to this govt

But with a new double rail line to goa, tourism would certainly get a big boost, especially if the new VB type of trains were to run on that line
Ritesh Saar,
I think it was Vsunder Saar and Arshyam Saar who pointed out the SC committee withdrawing environmental clearance for the project to double the lines. Sure, we can argue that the govt have pushed ahead, but they haven't taken on judiciary unless required in the most pressing issues.

viewtopic.php?p=2496440&hilit=vsunder+court#p2496440
viewtopic.php?p=2496450#p2496450

vsunder Saar, talks about the issue of the locals thinking that doubling is done for adani to move his coal stocks and the tiger reserve issue is also raised.
arshaym garu has also linked a swarajya magazine report on the same. All of these factors along with the ones Chetak Saar has mentioned with respect to Goa compound to delay trains and not just a single factor of rail minister not pushing his weight around me thinks Saar.

But if you are discussing about some other rail line, then moi would like to tender apology in advance for unwanted confusion.

Ram ram ji. Pls no apologies, just trying to put forth some really felt pain areas.

Aside, if a single state with less than 10th of the route length is opposing this, then why not just bypass it? Such highjacking hinders movement of people and good to other states.

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 20 Oct 2023 15:30

EDFC - DANKUNI - SONNAGAR SECTION CONSTRUCTION BIG UPDATE

GoI will execute since no PPI partners can be found

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 20 Oct 2023 17:59

rajkumar wrote: ↑20 Oct 2023 15:30 EDFC - DANKUNI - SONNAGAR SECTION CONSTRUCTION BIG UPDATE

GoI will execute since no PPI partners can be found

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 21 Oct 2023 17:32

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 23 Oct 2023 15:04

Son Nagar-Andal Multi tracking Project

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 25 Oct 2023 03:08

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 25 Oct 2023 20:23

What a fantastic Officer of the Indian Railways...

bala · Post by **bala** » 27 Oct 2023 10:19

The non-AC variant train is an upgraded version of L.H.B coaches with semi high speed locomotives on either ends in push-pull configuration. Each engine made by Chittaranjan Locomotive Works (CLW) is rated around 5500 HP for a total of 11000 HP. ICF makes the coaches and is being trialed in this YT. The train is called Vande Sadharan. Better aethetics and better colors.

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 27 Oct 2023 15:24

Southern Dedicated Freight Corridor: Why It Must Be Prioritised After EDFC and WDFC...

https://swarajyamag.com/infrastructure/ ... c-and-wdfc

bala · Post by **bala** » 28 Oct 2023 20:02

A full run of Vande Sadharan with 22 coaches and push-pull engines at Tikekarwadi, Solapur on transit to Western Railway Zone..

tandav · Post by **tandav** » 30 Oct 2023 11:42

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/visakh ... 803797.cms

The spate of collisions, accidents and derailments in IR shows the limits of chalta hain type attitudes and the nation deserves better.

Privatization of IR should be taken on priority mostly it appears that the signaling and track management issue

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 30 Oct 2023 17:33

bala · Post by **bala** » 02 Nov 2023 08:48

Indian Railway engines are steadily improving. The WAG-9 is one of the most successful locomotives of Indian Railways serving freight trains for over 27 years. To get a more modern freight engine the Indian Railways brought in Alstom for WAG-12 which is produced in Madhepura, Bihar. This is a twin engine efficient engine with 12000HP.

Now the engineers at CLW, took the WAG-9 and attached two of them together to create new 12000HP Locomotive of Indian Railways dubbed as WAG-9Twins. The styling and color match the WAG-12 version.

More here in YT

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Nov 2023 22:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSeT3IaxMf0

BRAND NEW RAKE OF VANDE SADHARAN SKIPPING BADLAPUR 1ST RAKE..

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Nov 2023 02:25

Another interview of Ashwini Vaishnaw, mantriji.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Nov 2023 09:41

How and why did the IR get involved with a scheme like "surge pricing"....

Also, why such high costs for the tolls on the highways, why these sleazy schemes to mercilessly squeeze the paying class......

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 19 Nov 2023 10:36

chetak wrote: ↑19 Nov 2023 09:41

Also, why such high costs for the tolls on the highways, why these sleazy schemes to mercilessly squeeze the paying class......

sarcasm ???

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 19 Nov 2023 11:15

Atmavik wrote: ↑19 Nov 2023 10:36
chetak wrote: ↑19 Nov 2023 09:41

Also, why such high costs for the tolls on the highways, why these sleazy schemes to mercilessly squeeze the paying class......
sarcasm ???

Atmavik ji,

truth.

When you spend >1000 on toll fees alone, and haven't even covered a thousand kilometres on the road... it rankles

and in a city like bangalore, you have to pay a hefty toll to even get to the airport.... why not shift the toll booths a few kms ahead. Isn't the airport a given part of the city's facilities, especially when given the revenue the city generates for the govts, both state and centre

and most of the highways and road infrastructures in bangalore were built by a itchy fingered politico from andhra, partnered with the local politicos who had their hungry snouts buried deep in the public trough

bala · Post by **bala** » 19 Nov 2023 11:28

Chetak saar,

I agree with the observation of high toll fees being charged. As traffic increased they should have brought it down progressively.

When Vajpayee started the four lanes of highway, things were well laid and smooth and people did not mind paying for a good ride. Overtime, these highways became crowded and suddenly the Highway dept decided to upgrade them. In an operating highway they dug up the system to make underpass for cross roads (this should have been designed in the initial highway implementation!). What a mess this creates for which toll is being collected as usual. The people are being shafted for poor roads, everything is down to a crawl. Why are they charging toll during the upgrade. This is true everywhere, adding lanes to existing conjested highways, such a nightmare for driving. Indians are also not provided with regular well placed pit stops for food/fuel/rest on these highways. The highway furniture (direction) is lacking in many places. There isn't a standard that one can expect after paying such high tolls.

I hope Gadkari reads this and makes some changes.

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 23 Nov 2023 06:46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_qz3w525A&t=1s

Gudur-Bitragunta Railway 3rd Line Project #flyoverbridge

looks like Krishnapatnam will be connected with Renigunta with a small DFC. Adanis have big plans for this Port in AP.

@vsunder saar is this correct ?

arshyam · Post by **arshyam** » 23 Nov 2023 07:17

It's already done and operational since 2019. It features a 6km+ long tunnel as well.

You can see the line on the IR Map here: https://indianrailways.gov.in/index/index.html (search for Venkatachalam or Obulavaripalli - these are the junctions where this line crosses the GQ lines out of Chennai toward Howrah/Delhi and Mumbai.

Ashokk · Post by **Ashokk** » 30 Nov 2023 16:09

In a first, Indian Railways allows MNCs to deploy indigenous Kavach anti train collision system on network

India's capability to deploy the Kavach automatic train collision avoidance system is set to receive a boost with approval being given to global companies, Germany's Siemens and Japan's Kyosan, to install it on the Indian Railways network. Railway Minister Ashwini Vaishnaw announced that Kavach deployment will increase to 5,000 kilometers per year by the 2025-26 financial year, up from the current 1,500 kilometers annually, according to an ET report.
Tenders for the installation of Kavach over 3,000 kilometers were awarded in December last year, and progress is on schedule with 98% of the radio survey on the routes completed so far. The Railway Minister stated that bids for installing Kavach on another 2,500 kilometers of railway networks will be awarded soon.
According to a TOI report, by March 2025, the Delhi-Mumbai and Delhi-Howrah railway routes, considered the busiest, will be entirely fitted with the anti-train collision system Kavach. As per Vaishnaw's update on Kavach's advancement, currently, 1,659 km of railway lines have the system installed, with an additional 500 km set to be covered by March next year. Over the subsequent three years, the aim is to extend this safety measure to encompass at least 5,000 km of tracks.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 29 Jan 2024 00:57

This is nine months old, looking forward to the next release:
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePa ... ID=1913114

Indian Railways has recorded the best ever performance in its recorded history in terms of the output from the Freight Business in the Financial year 2022-23. As per the preliminary data IR has achieved an originating Freight loading of 1512 MT i.e an incremental loading of 94 MT over the previous best of 1418 MT achieved in FY 2021-22 with a growth of ~7%.

The freight transport unit i.e NTKM (Net tonne Kilometre) of Indian railways have also clocked an impressive growth rate of 10% to breach the 900 Bn mark for the first time to reach 903 Bn NTKMs in the FY 2022-23 as against 820 Bn NTKMs achieved last year.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 29 Jan 2024 21:20

Hope fr-ind cooperation extends to such infrastructure projects as well.

Mukhi · Post by **Mukhi** » 02 Feb 2024 10:18

Gyani Log and @vsunderji

Will you be kind enough to shed some light on the three new rail corridors of about 40K to come up. Been searching net to find more details but nothing specific found.

Much Pranam.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 02 Feb 2024 18:51

^^^ Yes, there are three DFCs planned. East Coast DFC from Kharagpur to Vijayawada/Nidubrolu. East West DFC from Kharagpur to Bhusawal and Surat linking with the WDFC being built. North South DFC from Itarsi to Vijayawada. No DPRs have been released, though DPRs were scheduled to be released last year. Here are the putative maps of the three DFCs

https://dfccil.com/Home/DynemicPages?MenuId=325

A bypass line around Itarsi has been commissioned two months ago from Powarkheda on the Bhopal to Itarsi line to Jujharpur on the Itarsi to Nagpur line. The southern DFC will start at Jujharpur. This bypass line jumps over the Khandwa to Itarsi line via a rail flyover, no crossings. Passenger trains like Duronto and Rajdhani that do not halt at Itarsi go on this line and so too freight that needs to avoid a very busy Itarsi yard with severe detention. A mirror bypass line is also being constructed east around Itarsi forming a full ring road around Itarsi. Itarsi to Jhansi is now tripled with the most difficult section through the Vindhyas being tripled and commissioned in November. This 23 km section through the Budni--Barkhera ghat involved 7 tunnels and took 5 years. It passes through the Ratapani tiger reserve where Bhimbetka prehistoric caves and cave paintings also lie. See my Ram Mandir post. In fact you have to cross the Delhi--Itarsi---Chennai line past Obaidullahganj to head for the entrance to Bhimbetka and its many wonders a UNESCO site. IR built a number of animal overpasses as this section is called Cat Death Alley as many tigers are killed by getting hit by trains on this very busy North-South line carrying traffic from Delhi to Mumbai/Hyderabad/Chennai. Also a spring and pond was built powered by a solar powered pump so that the big cats can have water even during droughts and do not have to cross tracks anymore. Parts of the track are fenced. No construction work including tunneling was allowed at night and so progress to excavate the tunnels, do the earthwork nd build 14 major bridges took 5 years. The third line streteches beyond Jhansi all the way to Delhi, but parts between Jhansi and Agra Cantt are under construction. The main issue is a bridge across the Chambal river between Dholpur and Morena which should be over next month finally and will pave the way for tripling between Jhansi and Agra Cantt. Between Agra Cantt. and Mathura there is a problem at one block section due to a temple. Mathura to Delhi is 4 lined and parts of it were dedicated to the nation by Modi a few days ago. Vijayawada to Gudur/Chennai is almost tripled with only Vijayawada---Tenali---Nidubrolu---Bapatla left for tripling. The main problem was a very long viaduct over swampy ground between Gudur and Manubolu which was finally opened to carry the third line in October. Land is a big problem in coastal Andhra and so the DFCs stop at Vijayawada and one hopes the third lines will take over the freight traffic from Vijayawada to Chennai.

Vijayawada to Warangal---Kazipet is also getting tripled and Kazipet to Balharshah 224 km is almost tripled with just about 30km left. If and when the DFCs are built there will be 5 lines 3 IR +2 DFC from Itarsi---Nagpur---Balharshah----Kazipet---Warangal----Vijayawada. The lesson to be learned from the EDFC and WDFC is that LA is a big hurdle and inimical state governments like Uddhav Thackeray and brigands like Soren who ran Jharkhand can destroy projects. No wonder not a km of EDFC track has been laid in Jharkhand or WB and the EDFC stops at Son Nagar at 1337km instead of going past Dhanbad(Jharkhand)--Asansol and all the way to Dankuni WB.

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 02 Feb 2024 20:29

Amrit Bharat Station Yojana: An embodiment of modern Indian Railways

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 10 Feb 2024 04:34

6 Multi Tracking Projects have been Sanctioned on IR in last days after new budget

1. These are quadrupling Bengaluru to Mysore. Currently there are 130 curves on this stretch that severely restricts VB to a measly 110 kmph from 130 kmph speeds. These curves will be straightened after LA. This will be a mess as Congi govt. will throw a spanner, but if you vote for such people then you deserve crap in your state.

2. Bengaluru to Tumkur quadrupling. Traffic has increased a lot after doubling and industrial parks and HAL rotary wing facility to manufacture helos has come up at Tumkur. Lot of commuter traffic and they need Mumbai like suburban lines into the city. Doubling done in the last 4 years has already reached saturation.

3. Bangarapet to Jolarpet quadrupling. Currently Bangalore Cantt to Whitefield is being quadrupled. SR has done survey for quadrupling Arrakonam to Jolarpet. Chennai to Arrakonam is already quadrupled. Tracks from Bangalore Cantt to Jolarpet has been upgraded to 130kmph and proposal is before Railway Board to up the sectional speed to 130kmph on this section on which the Shatabdi and VB runs between Bangalore and Chennai run at ox cart speed.

4. Sawai Madhopur to Jaipur doubling. This is strange and a no brainer should have been done 20 years ago. Links Jaipur to the Mumbai-Delhi line(Western Railway). Used to be MG when I was a small boy.

5. Lumding to Furkating doubling. First line to be doubled in upper Assam towards Dibrugarh, Tinsukia and also allowing for increased traffic from the new line to Kohima from Dimapur in Nagaland. This doubling is the first on the south bank of the Brahmaputra. Guwahati to Lumding has been electrified and doubled(FEDL) two years ago. Only a small section is left near Guwahati for doubling near Rangapara, under process for a fully electrified doubled line connecting Guwahati and New Delhi and Kolkata.

Incidentally Belagavi to Miraj is now fully doubled with electrification happening which will finish by end April thus FEDL from Bangalore to Miraj and fully electrified line from Bangalore to Pune via Belagavi and Hubbali.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 10 Feb 2024 05:30

NE Railways Status Update

1. Sivok--Rangpo Sikkim Railway 44km. 8/14 tunnels breakthrough. One of the stations Teesta Bazaar is inside a tunnel. There was a massive flash flood at the work site last year, but fortunately workers were evacuated before they drowned. Completion date 2024, but unlikely, maybe next year. Line ends some 30km from Gangtok.

https://www.sentinelassam.com/north-eas ... ted-684820

2. Nagaland Line Dhansiri--Zubza New line 82.5 km

https://nagalandpost.com/index.php/2023 ... l-project/

Dhansiri on IR to Shokhuvi commissioned in 2021. Shokhuvi to Pherima should be commissioned this yar and Shokhuvi to Zubza near Kohima by 2026.

3. Line to Mizoram capital(Aizawl) Bairabi to Sairang line 51km. Supposed to be complete March 2024. 24 tunnels and 4 new railway stations en route.

https://swarajyamag.com/infrastructure/ ... march-2024

17 construction workers were killed when a under construction bridge girder collapsed over the summer.

4. Line to Manipur: Jiribam to Imphal line 111km. Has the tallest bridge (with piers) in the world at Noney. Piers are about 141 m tall. Bridge is 80% complete and line is 96% complete. Tunnel 12 on this line at 11.55km is India's longest. Project will complete 2025 or best case end 2024. Welcome at Khongsang, Manipur when the first train arrived.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owCaXMVHbuc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8E_Uzdb8rM

These are the stations all have to be built new: Jiribam(on IR, so an existing station, rest all new have to built from scratch for this new line) , Vangaichugpao, Rani Gaidinliu station at Kaimai, Kambiron, Thingao, Khongsang, Awangkhul, Noney, Tupul, Haochong and at Imphal railway station. The train reached Khongsang that is 55km of the 111 km route is indeed operational. Left is Khongsang to Imphal 56km.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 10 Feb 2024 23:26

Allocation of Funds by IR post budget for FY 2024-2025

The Railways does NOT allocate funds to States. It allocates funds to projects, several of which cut through multiple states. New lines, doubling, electrification, station re-development under Amrit Bharat, increasing sectional speeds to 130kmph, and so on are the main projects. However, one can find from this data, how much of the budgetary allocation is to a certain state, by taking that fraction of a project that lies in a certain state. Based on this data, UP got 19,575 crores the most allocation of funds, while Delhi NCR the least with 2577 crores about. Here is the table with the data which contains the "allocation" to each state. Karnataka stands 11th at 7,524 crores.

https://realtynxt.com/news/unveiling-in ... fy-2024-25

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 10 Feb 2024 23:57

Some Bangalore Area Projects

1. Due to the rapid traffic load in the Bangalore area, automatic signalling is scheduled to be introduced, allowing more trains to be fed into sections than what can be done by the absolute block system. This will increase the system capacity in the Bangalore area. The routes that will be equipped with automatic signalling are:

1. Bangalore City-Yeshwanthpur--Yelahanka 17.75 km

2. Yeshwanthpur--Arasikere 160km

3. Whitefield --Jolarpet 119km(for example ^^^ this section lies in three states, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu and is part of the Chennai-Bangalore trunk line. But the entire section lies in the Southwestern Railway zone)

4. Bangalore--Mysore 138km

5. Baipannahalli--Penukonda via Channasandra 139km

6. Lottegollahalli--Hosur 43km

6 routes, 639km and cost is 874 crores. SWR has already announced this.

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Bangalore--Mysore quadrupling, see my post above. The article talks of straightening the huge number of curves, I said about 130 above in my previous post.

Main cost is LA. 4130 crores allocated, out of which 1100 crores is anticipated for LA. Not going to be easy with a corrupt KA government.

https://starofmysore.com/quadrupling-of ... bengaluru/

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 11 Feb 2024 01:33

@vsunder garu. i see a lot of negative reporting on the railways and especially on the railway Min. despite the massive upgrades that railways has seen in the past 10 yrs people are not happy. is it the usual case of demand out running supply causing shortages?

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 11 Feb 2024 02:19

Negative reporting in what sense?

One thing our family encountered this year when attending weddings can be attributed to development reaching smaller places. Bride and groom from east coast and west coast. It was hard to find tickets and connections whether via rail or air. All combinations had to be employed whether via rail, road, or air. Counter intuitive connections were people flying out to Dubai and flying back in to be able to make it to one of the events. I think its also catch up from Covid where a lot of people put off life until later.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 11 Feb 2024 03:37

@Atmavik: Because people generally are unable to read, think for themselves and cannot count. Reporters invariably copy and paste from other sources so that news reports from the NE look identical from the report filed by the stringer from the Assam Sentinel. The local newspapers in Hindi, Kannada etc do a far better job. As Modi said in his parliament speech a few days ago, that had his government followed the Congress plan of railway electrification it would have taken 80 years to electrify the network. Now we are close to 94% electrified and by next year full electrification will happen with a tremendous saving in HS(high speed) diesel. The national newspapers do not have reporters who understand the network and will send nobody to cover projects periodically. Take NE, or Char Dham railway project(at 60% completion and with 8/14 tunnels done, 104 km of a 135 km project is inside a tunnel, amazing) you will see the national newspapers have no reports since April 2023 or October 2023.

The EDFC is complete as of November 2023, that is a truncated EDFC, since LA was not done on time in WB and Jharkhand. Still using 1337km of this double lined EDFC(single lined in Punjab due to land acquisition problems), coal from mines in Jharkhand takes 20 hours to reach even power stations in Punjab via EDFC. Power stations do not have to maintain massive buffer stocks of coal. In 2022 there was a crisis with heavy power demand and power stations almost ran out of coal, none of this will happen anymore as the EDFC is operational.
Mamata and Soren have screwed the EDFC in their states by being slow with LA and now Mamta says LA is complete. But the record is that even in 2019, only 70% of the land was acquired in WB and only 60% handed over to DFCCIL by WB govt. 41 railway projects are at a standstill in WB due to LA state subject. The EDFC iy=tself now no longer will go to Dankuni as envisioned but stop at Andal as soon as it enters the WB border near Durgapur. After that IR is indeed quadrupled and freight will share tracks with passenger trains and local MEMUs.

The WDFC is operational from Dadri to Sanand(western outskirts of Ahmedabad) and thus to all the Gujarat ports. Containers are taking 18-24 hours to reach Gujarat ports from Delhi NCR and the hinterland of Ludhiana and even UP via EDFC and WDFC. This is a significant reduction in time from the 72 hours before.

Anyday now Sanand to Makarpura (Vadodara) 138km will be linked and when that happens freight from NCR Delhi, UP and so on will also be able to reach Vaitarna MH and then onwards to JNPT in 24-36 hours. From Makarpura to Vaitarna the WDFC is complete and freight is running bypassing Surat and other places. Hazira port also is connected to WDFC(petrochemicals). For further savings in time esp. container traffic which is the most traffic on WDFC, it is imperative that the JNPT to Vaitarna section gets completed ASAP.

The problem has happened in Maharashtra. 109km from Vaitarna to JNPT. Two very bad things happened. The Thackeray brigand family(I have no love lost for the father either a cheap goon) threw a big spanner in the land acquisition. Nothing moved for years when they were running the government. Next Tata Construction completely stopped work on the WDFC and were on the verge of being kicked out and the 109km re-tendered. Then their partners Mitsui(on the WDFC all Indian companies have to have a Japanese partner on WDFC according to borrowing rules set up by JICA, so JNPT to Vaitarna companies are Tata+Mitsui+IRCON) put pressure and also Tata threatened to lock the project in litigation, seeing all this DFCCIL relented as this would push completion on an important project to 2027. Tata put all its energy into the new parliament building, and now the new international Jewar airport in NOIDA. This is a sh***ty company with crap engineers and only does coolie level engineering like building doors and frames for Airbus where the coolie is told exactly what to do, try talking to their engineers in Steel, any sort of engineering you can pole them in 10 minutes. So the end run of Vaitarna to JNPT is delayed to end of this year according to most people by the two T's Thackeray brigands and Tata Construction. Here is a recent video in 3 parts, drone from Vaitarna to JNPT, do you think WDFC last part will finish in 2024 as announced with a delayed deadline which has been pushed back 4 times? Get depressed:

Part 1 WDFC(very poor progress, Dahisar to Dombivili)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2XQ5-Afubo

Part 2 WDFC Nilje---Panvel--JNPT( very slow and very poor progress)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn7wlP-WdYI

Part 3 : Dahisar to Gujarat(this is almost done, trials are taking place upto Palghar currently and will finish by March 2024 in a few months)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-0IJu-uVQk

But Parts 1&2 ^^^ are the sections of greatest concern. Videos above are 3 weeks old.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 11 Feb 2024 03:56

^^^ You can see the effect of WDFC. Adani/Mundhra ports saw a huge spike of 48% and broke all records in cargo handling in October 2023. Think, think why did such a singular spike happen, that is the WDFC effect. Of course the article makes no connection, but says Adani ports handled something like 38 rakes a day. If that is one of the Gujarat ports, imagine the traffic at other Gujarat ports which has suddenly increased from what was happening before. This is the DFC effect by just completing the line from all the major container terminals in North India to the Gujarat ports----the WDFC. But will people read, understand, count etc., .....

https://www.indiatoday.in/business/stor ... 2023-11-03

Article says ^^^ in 7 months they handled 27,300 rakes, do the arithmetic(counting) that is 130 rakes per day. So 65 freight rakes come in and 65 rakes leave every day. That is a whopping increase. End of year figures:

https://www.adaniports.com/newsroom/med ... n-dec-2023

^^^ Article states that just Mundhra port is going to surpass 7 MMT in 2024. Compare that to Los Angeles the busiest US port at 11 MMT annually.

Currently 100 rakes run on the WDFC everyday, that is 50 rakes in each direction. WDFC allows double stacked container freight and it is mainly container traffic. EDFC sees a lot of bulk traffic, coal, ore, clinker, cement etc. When the WDFC is complete to JNPT, this figure will rise to 160 rakes everyday and will still increase.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 11 Feb 2024 05:12

I have mentioned Automatic Signalling in my post above. What is it? How does it increase traffic capacity? The following video is a good introduction to Automatic Signalling on the Indian Railways. Automatic Signals are identified with a board with A written on a decal just under the lights on the signal. Axle counters are very important in implementing Automatic signalling and are yellow boxes under the rails. Some form of centralized control of traffic movement will now come up in the Bangalore area to control movement on the 6 routes out of Bangalore. I have listed the 6 routes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8iUDeNAOWM

Atmavik · Post by **Atmavik** » 11 Feb 2024 07:07

Thanks @vsunder sahib.

vsunder · Post by **vsunder** » 11 Feb 2024 07:38

Also think: The Sterlite copper refining plant closed, just when the Indian Railways embarked on its goal for 100% electrification. 21,614km was electrified from Independence to 2014 when Modi came to power. Today 61,000 km (route kms)stands electrified. So in about 9 years close to 40,000 RKM(route kms) got electrified. That means with doubled sections one has to multiply the figure by 2 to get TKM(track kms) and now a large number of sections are doubled as part of capacity enhancement. Bangalore to Mysore doubled, Bangalore to Hubbali and beyond doubled, Bangalore to Mumbai doubled and Chennai to Mumbai doubled and fully electrified.

This entailed a huge demand for Copper wire rapidly. India from a small exporter of Copper, became an importer once Sterlite closed and consequently most of the Copper for OHE wire for this mammoth task of electrification had to be bought from Chile a R. Catholic country and China. In addition Michelle Bachelet from Chile (former Chilean president and UN commissioner for human rights 2018-2022)severely criticized India for human rights violations. Go figure......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Bachelet

Suppose the distance from Chamchamnagar to Peepulganj is 100km by rail, then 100km is route kms. If the track is doubled, then track kms is 200km and one has to also add the extra track at wayside stations for loop lines and sidings, all that goes into track kms. 61,000kms above is route kms electrified, track kms will be much higher due to so many doubled and even tripled and quadrupled lines. For example the entire line from Gudur to Vijayawada is triple lined essentially except for ongoing tripling between Vijayawada---Tenali----Nidubrolu---Bapatla a small piece. Route kms will not take into account the doubled and tripling etc.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 11 Feb 2024 10:25

Re: copper, this from 2018:
https://blog.gorozen.com/blog/how-the-e ... per-prices
and 2019:
https://blog.gorozen.com/blog/copper-ma ... ian-demand