Social Problems in Punjab and their Strategic Impact

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 10:23

They are targeting our diplomatic personnel and naming them as "killers" on wanted-posters:

So for anyone who says "don't pay attention to them" -- I think it's time we pay attention, because they are escalating to worse and worse levels.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 10:37

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 12:16

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 18:26

How did Nijjar get Canadian citizenship?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 18:50

9 out of 11 most wanted gangsters in Canada's province of BC have Punjabi names:

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-police-agenci ... -1.6012781

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 04 Jul 2023 21:50

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 05 Jul 2023 00:32

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 05 Jul 2023 19:30

Breaking: Unconfirmed reports that Khalistani terrorist Pannu has died in a road accident in US. Confirmation awaited.

I have a feeling that Khalistani handlers are eliminating them to either drive them crazy enough to attack Indian consulates or cleaning up because of some other investigations

https://twitter.com/MumbaichaDon/status ... 3745548288

BhikuMhatre @MumbaichaDon
“Pink Shabana" will be devastated again! बेचारी must be so worried now about well-being of her Close FRIEND Gopal Chawla. Why?

GRAPEVINE IS....

#Khalistani Terr0ri$t Gurpatwant, Singh Pannu has died in a road accident in #USA

He was BRAVELY hiding since last few days after his close associates were gunned down by Unidentified Gunmen in last 2 months.

जष्न after official announcement!

If true....must say that COINCIDENCE this time was just too early! Only 1 day after attack on Bharat's Consulate in San Francisco.

I'm just worried that now US shouldn't accuse Bharat of Internal Interference....like Canada!

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 05 Jul 2023 21:18

vijayk wrote:Breaking: Unconfirmed reports that Khalistani terrorist Pannu has died in a road accident in US. Confirmation awaited.

4th Khalistani to die from unnatural causes in 2 months. Hardeep Singh Nijjar, Avatar Singh Khanda & Paramjit Singh Panjwar before that.
2 Jihadi leaders killed in Feb-Mar, from under the noses of the ISI (as was Panjwar).

Mossad at its finest did not achieve this.

VKumar · Post by **VKumar** » 05 Jul 2023 21:35

Mossad cannot compare with Karma

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 05 Jul 2023 21:36

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/khal ... us-reports
Speculation Mounts Over Fate Of Khalistan Radical Gurpatwant Singh Pannu Amid Rumors Of Death On Social Media

https://www.bhaskar.com/local/punjab/am ... 85069.html

Notorious Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannu has died in a road accident in America. Pannu was underground for a long time. According to information, Pannu met with an accident on US Highway 101.

But counter

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 3083069441

Indian Media is running unconfirmed news on the basis of social media rumours that Khalistani SFJ Terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun is dead in a road accident in US.

Officials I spoke to say he has been underground for quite some time fearing for his life after prominent Khalistani terrorists were killed worldwide inspite of protection from Pakistan ISI.

This could also be a tactic by Pannun to gain sympathy and funding. No matter what, he is a source of lot of entertainment for Indians. As of now he isn’t answering his calls. Let’s wait and see if he comes out of his rat hole soon. Watch this space for more soon.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 05 Jul 2023 22:59

I wonder when a PIL will be filled in the Indian Supreme Court asking GoI to stop killing terrorists

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 06 Jul 2023 05:52

Tanaji wrote:I wonder when a PIL will be filled in the Indian Supreme Court asking GoI to stop killing terrorists

There was already a protest held outside R&AW headquarters by Dal Khalsa

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 06 Jul 2023 08:11

Tanaji wrote:I wonder when a PIL will be filled in the Indian Supreme Court asking GoI to stop killing terrorists

Don't worry, we will have to wait for the leftist cabal and opposition parties baying for proof that GoI eliminated the terrorists!

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 06 Jul 2023 08:13

vijayk wrote:Breaking: Unconfirmed reports that Khalistani terrorist Pannu has died in a road accident in US. Confirmation awaited.

Like the Congis asking - where is the proof that he died? Show us the body of Pannu!

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 06 Jul 2023 13:49

'Killed' in road accident, Khalistani terrorist Gurpatwant Singh Pannun issues 'new' threat video from UN HQ

https://www.firstpost.com/world/watch-k ... 33532.html

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 06 Jul 2023 16:23

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 07 Jul 2023 04:08

bharathp · Post by **bharathp** » 07 Jul 2023 05:46

news could have been planted by folks who want to know his whereabouts - now it shuold be a bit more easier to locate him

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Jul 2023 02:26

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Jul 2023 02:48

New provocations are now happening.

https://twitter.com/CBCTerry/status/1677634397585940483

https://bnn.network/breaking-news/socia ... officials/

Today, the Bharat Mata Mandir, a Hindu temple in Brampton, was defaced with a poster being put up there:

Similar signs are being put up around the area.

Khalistanis in the area have declared it to be a "Warzone" - meaning that they reserve the right to wage war here.

To people on the forum saying "don't pay attention to this" -- this problem seems to be getting worse, and not subsiding on its own.
To the people on the forum saying "Canada will get bitten by allowing snakes to grow in its yard" --- no, it's not all of Canada which will get bitten, but rather people from certain communities will be targeted by the Khalistanis who will bite them.

It seems like the 1980s are now coming back.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 09 Jul 2023 19:09

Punjab is pretty safe from such politics, Canada on the other hand might see 1980s causing Canadian government to act and then these Khalistanis will start demanding Khalistan in Canada along with Islamists demand of Sharia.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 09 Jul 2023 19:48

Khalistanis and Indians face off at protests outside Indian consulate

Khalistanis beat up Indian counter-protester:

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/statu ... 6584571904

Khalistani being arrested for beating up Indian:

https://twitter.com/pun_fact/status/1677926947706351616

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 09 Jul 2023 20:09

We should burn the Pakisstani and Khalistsni flags as a protest in front of Paki embassy in pig fat. Advertise it all over

hgupta · Post by **hgupta** » 10 Jul 2023 05:07

SBajwa wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023 20:09 We should burn the Pakisstani and Khalistsni flags as a protest in front of Paki embassy in pig fat. Advertise it all over

We should find out any assets these scumbags own in India and seize them. That would serve quite a kick to their gonads.

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 10 Jul 2023 09:18

Gurpatwant Singh Pannu, the leader and main activist for SFJ ("Sikhs for Justice") has issued a call for Sikh troops from Punjab regiment to "dump the tiranga" (Indian flag) during their participation in the French Bastille Day parade on July 14:

https://twitter.com/JagjeetInCAN/status ... 8303730691

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 12 Jul 2023 01:08

https://sundayguardianlive.com/investig ... y-milewski
Khalistan movement is headed for a brick wall: Terry Milewski
Indrani Ghosh, July 9, 2023
The Canadian author of the book, ‘Blood for Blood: 50 years of the Global Khalistan Project’, spoke to The Sunday Guardian.
New Delhi
With separatist Khalistani groups planning marches across a number of countries, including the US, UK, Canada and Australia on 8 July to push their propaganda, a former senior correspondent of Canada’s CBC News and author of “Blood for Blood: Fifty Years of the Global Khalistan Project”, Terry Milewski spoke to The Sunday Guardian, comparing the movement to a cur after a car and added that most Sikhs have no interest in it, so the movement is headed for a brick wall. However, as long as the idea remains, Pakistan will continue to wield the stick against India, no matter how feeble they get, he said, adding: “The Khalistanis are very loud indeed right now, but there may be some desperation in that. Their time is running out. Internal wars are sapping their energy.” Excerpts:
Q: Where is the Khalistani movement headed? Do you fear a new era of violent mass bloodbath?
A: No, I think the movement has pushed its luck too far and is now like the dog that caught the car. If you threaten to rain hell on the enemy, you eventually have to do it. The referendum has to conclude one day and it will pretend to show massive support, so Pannun can ride off to the UN with the wind in his sails. Or not. Because it’s not credible. A friend who’s a Sikh in London registered to vote as “Angelina Jolie.” Identity never checked. How many times did people vote? Nobody knows. Where is the independent commission that was supposed to validate the results? Vanished. Then the question is, so what? What about the great majority of the world’s Sikhs, in Punjab? Only 2.5 percent voted for Mann’s SADA last time—in a state that’s 58 percent Sikh! And the BJP got nearly three times as many votes! The election before that, in 2017, SADA got 0.3 percent. A pitiful failure.
Granted, an independent state was not the election issue—but polls on that tell the same story. Pew in 2019 found 95 percent of Sikhs in Punjab said they were proud to be Indians. No interest in a separate state. So, the movement is headed for a brick wall. As long as they are not at the final decision point, they’re relevant, in the news and raising money aplenty. But that can’t go on forever. Once they are exposed as irrelevant, interest, coverage and money dry up.
Q: Is the Khalistan movement still a stick in Pakistan hands, especially now with its rogue persona?
A: Pakistan has always been essential to the movement—but not because it wants the Sikhs to breathe free. It has its own reasons for bleeding India, Kashmir being the obvious one. As long as the Khalistan idea remains alive, Pakistan will take advantage of it. Otherwise, it will be, goodbye. Pakistan is already a client state of China and it depends whether China sees a future in the Khalistan issue. It has other issues. I don’t see Khalistan as being a Chinese vital interest. That could change, but Pakistan would remain the enfeebled stick with which to bleed India. Pakistan is broke.
.......
Gautam

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 13 Jul 2023 00:13

Canada failing in its responsibilities:

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 16 Jul 2023 10:56

I am actually in punjab right now, unplanned emergency visit. Not a khalistani flag in sight

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 16 Jul 2023 10:57

I am actually in punjab right now, unplanned emergency visit. Not a khalistani flag in sight

hgupta · Post by **hgupta** » 16 Jul 2023 11:05

Haresh wrote: ↑16 Jul 2023 10:57 I am actually in punjab right now, unplanned emergency visit. Not a khalistani flag in sight

What do the people say about Khalistani there? Especially the Sikhs?

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 16 Jul 2023 11:53

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 16 Jul 2023 12:03

[/img]Nothing!!

It only comes up if you ask, and even then the word jat is used before and after.
People are more concerned about development or the lack of it.

Where I am, the Sikhs consider themselves Hindu and the Hindus consider themselves Sikhs.

My driver is Sikh, ramgharia, not interested in it. Indian flags everywhere

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 16 Jul 2023 12:05

sanman · Post by **sanman** » 16 Jul 2023 12:16

https://www.oneindia.com/international/ ... 85071.html

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 Jul 2023 20:17

Where I am, the Sikhs consider themselves Hindu and the Hindus consider themselves Sikhs.

That is one of the most perspicacious and profound observations I have come across on BRF.

Please elaborate.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 16 Jul 2023 21:31

Haresh wrote: ↑16 Jul 2023 10:57 I am actually in punjab right now, unplanned emergency visit. Not a khalistani flag in sight

I do not know what Khalistani flag is? I know that Nishan sahib (A triangular Kesari/Saffron/Orange/Yellow flag with Khanda in the middle) is the regular flag that you can see at all Gurudwaras. Nishan Sahib was created by the 6th Guru Guru Hargobind ji in 1606 after the martyrdom of the 5th Guru Guru Arjan Dev ji to militarize Sikhs. This was first hoisted at Golden Temple right next to the Akal Takht.

The word nishan in Hindi means "Chinah" or in English "Mark" to denote that a Gurudwara exists here as being a flag on a high pole it can be seen from far away. It was very useful in ancient times during fights with mughals as well as during the partition riots in 1946-1947.

So! Nishan Sahib is not a Khalistani flag but a flag to notify people that a Gurudwara exists here.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 16 Jul 2023 21:34

sanjaykumar wrote: ↑16 Jul 2023 20:17 Where I am, the Sikhs consider themselves Hindu and the Hindus consider themselves Sikhs.

That is one of the most perspicacious and profound observations I have come across on BRF.

Please elaborate.

I do not see a difference between Sikhs and Hindus., Sikh could mean "Students of Sri Guru Granth Sahib" while Hindus could be a larger sect of which all Sanatanis are part off. Before 1980s there was not a word "Hindu" in Punjab it was "Mona" meaning Clean shaven vs. Keshdhari (Turbaned). Mona could be anyone (Sikhs with cut hair too).

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 16 Jul 2023 21:39

Check out this couple with roots in Punjab and Sikkim.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 16 Jul 2023 21:45

Shouldn't that be Sikhim?