Bharat Rakshak

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 08:39**

Sonugn wrote:
AshishA wrote:There is certainly some mischief being planned when they omit Indian govt and say Indian people. And the CEOs of Indian origin aren't necessarily India supporters. So we have to keep that in mind while we deal with these guys.

Btw what exactly are they going to help with that our govt isn't currently doing? And didn't biden and his guys frown upon the naming of Covid19 as China virus? So why this India variant naming?

I also hope that GOI sticks to PMO route only.
It's a way of saying to allow these "CEO grouping" to send stuff directly to their trusted peers back in India without any sort of PMO oversight else we will write OPeds & through other ways make a claim that the India variant has spread to the world (because PMO delayed US charity & could not contain the disease).

I wouldn’t worry about this too much. If the exporters and importers don’t have clearance from customs, then goods will stay at ports until clearance occurs. Fast track clearance can only come by coordinating with the center. Who knows what these US naxals are exporting to India? In the name of PPE, oxygen concentrators and medicines, they may send guns, ammo and explosives. All goods will have to be examined by the CISF and customs. Fastest way is to coordinate with the central government and have AI or Indian armed forces pick them up.

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 09:38**

Rakshaks, this was inevitable.

Hindu political self-determination is exactly what the Partition AND the Nehru-Gandhi Dynasty were inflicted upon India to suppress.

The global order of Western-led "liberalism" hates this eventuality more than any other group. More than the Chinese. More than most Indian Muslims. Certainly more than the UAE or Saudi Arabia.

They hate it so much they have tried again and again to nip it in the bud. The 1971 Bangla genocide, which they still refuse to acknowledge, was one attempt. Whitewashing the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits was another. In fact, if it wasn't for 9/11 we'd have had an additional 20 years of jihadis freely exterminating our 'beastly people with a beastly religion', even as missionaries waded among the corpses to pick off bereaved survivors in the aftermath. And the Western globalists would have been perfectly fine with it.

The visa ban to Narendra Modi... to date the ONLY (!) recipient of such a sanction from the USCIRF... was yet another such attempt. As of 2004, with the Vajpayee government's defeat, Hindus were marked for permanent suppression. That's why when Rahul Gandhi complained of Saffron Terror, it was to the US Ambassador that he did so. That's why the MMS-Sonia regime was boosted for a 10-year term... RTE, the Communal Violence Bill, Sadhvi Pragya & Col. Purohit, all were steps taken in perfect accordance with Western-globalist policy towards our matrubhumi.

The Trump tenure was nothing more than a brief, temporary reprieve. And not even out of any consideration or conscientious rethinking... even from 2016-20 the implementation of anti-Hindu policies, such as backing 5th-column forces threatening India's internal stability, continued at the level of State Dept bureaucrats.

Still, overall the Trump regime were a distracted bunch (and so were their opponents). There was so much theatre & recrimination happening domestically within America that everything else, including suppression of Hindus, went on the back burner.

Now things are back as they should be from the Western globalists' point of view. The housecleaning is nearly complete. Agenda items that were somewhat neglected for the past 4 years are front & centre again.

There is nothing new about any of what is going on now. It would have happened under any Democrat, and in fact under any Republican President besides Trump.

If Modi went all-in for Trump last year it was not because he actually liked Trump (can you imagine two people more different from each other?) It was because he saw that another 4 years of Trump sarkar might extend that temporary period of reprieve, and give us time to sink the roots of our new political self-determination just a little deeper into the soil of our home country. That's all.

But it didn't happen, and the assault has resumed in earnest. The Western globalists are very frustrated over the Trump-mandated opportunity costs to all their favourite agendas (regarding not only India, but Ukraine, Iran, Syria, Russia & other places). They are moving swiftly, not only to restore regular programming in all these theatres but to try and undo the additional initiatives Trump did undertake... Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Israel, and the UAE among them.

This impatient flurry of activity by the Western globalist neoliberals is actually India's best hope. Impatient adversaries whose focus is scattered along many fronts make all kinds of mistakes. Modi should take his cue from the UAE's Mohammed bin Zayed... a true master of wielding influence from behind the scenes while remaining outside the main arc of fire. Unlike the higher-profile Al-Sisi, Netanyahu & MBS he will come out of this almost unscathed.

Modi would be wise to keep his head down, ignore all the provocations that will surely come, wait for Biden raj to get distracted by other things, and diligently pursue economic growth by empowering private enterprise & business-to-business relationships. Meanwhile... ensure that his mass base, the poor & lower-middle-class Indians in rural and small-city India, continue to enjoy stability and tangible quality-of-life advancement.

Play defence everywhere else, firmly but without drawing attention. Our time will come, mitron. For now, patience & quiet diligence are our watchwords.

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 15:43**

^^We all have to make sure Namo stays in office, irrespective of our personal grievances against him or against his party men. 2024 elections will be very ugly. We will need to stay behind Namo like a rock and make sure he comes back with a bigger majority than in 2019.

I am sure attacks from abroad (especially US) and from within are going to worsen. When the pandemic subsides the next point of attack will be vaccines and then the economy. And then the PM Cares fund. And then Ram temple. And then EC, SC and other institutions. In 2022 UP elections, lots of vicious attacks will be launched on yogi. Etc etc. All of this will be supported by foreign media with their tragedy *****, propaganda and then spread through social media sites. The same coalition/mafia/cabal that came together to defeat Trump will now be active. A coalition of media, tech companies, US govt, NGOs, DDM etc.

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 16:35**

Modi would be wise to keep his head down, ignore all the provocations that will surely come, wait for Biden raj to get distracted by other things, and diligently pursue economic growth by empowering private enterprise & business-to-business relationships. Meanwhile... ensure that his mass base, the poor & lower-middle-class Indians in rural and small-city India, continue to enjoy stability and tangible quality-of-life advancement.

The forthcoming Russo-Ukraine war will give us some reprieve. Nothing riles us the Bidenwas like Russia.

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 18:04**

Problem is even if Xiden is busy on other fronts our Pappus and Turdesais are plenty that will constantly keep the pot boiling...I don’t believe in “natural justice” for such characters ... really at some point they should bear the full brunt of the law. It’s a Hydra we ignore at our own peril. Examples have to be set so that others desist

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 18:07**

Paul wrote:
Modi would be wise to keep his head down, ignore all the provocations that will surely come, wait for Biden raj to get distracted by other things, and diligently pursue economic growth by empowering private enterprise & business-to-business relationships. Meanwhile... ensure that his mass base, the poor & lower-middle-class Indians in rural and small-city India, continue to enjoy stability and tangible quality-of-life advancement.

The forthcoming Russo-Ukraine war will give us some reprieve. Nothing riles us the Bidenwas like Russia.

Even the Myanmar coup has riled them up. But if Russia pulls off another crimea like tactics, Xiden camp would be enraged.

Posted: **28 Apr 2021 18:24**

AshishA wrote:
Paul wrote:

The forthcoming Russo-Ukraine war will give us some reprieve. Nothing riles us the Bidenwas like Russia.
Even the Myanmar coup has riled them up. But if Russia pulls off another crimea like tactics, Xiden camp would be enraged.

I have a very strong feeling that the amerikis have asked something big of India in afghanistan and that is why the gulfies have all pitched in saying that we are for peace between India and pak.

the pakis have tried to sweeten the pot with bajwa offering both honey and money (trade) to India.

obviously, that ask has not been met by India and hence the show of feral teeth and fangs by the amerikis and ameriki controlled media

this sort of bad behavior towards India has not been shown by the amerikis for decades now.

and that ask has something to be done pertaining to cashmere and that is why niazi bajwa have been emboldened, and fired up enough to put down a string of maximalist conditions for India

beijingbiden's current major headache is to get the US the hell out of afghanistan ASAP, and all else in the region be damned.

why else would doval be negotiating with the ameriki NSA unless the matter has NATSEC implications for India as well as the US.

Jaishankar is more than capable of handling almost everything else

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 07:26**

chetak wrote:
AshishA wrote: Even the Myanmar coup has riled them up. But if Russia pulls off another crimea like tactics, Xiden camp would be enraged.
I have a very strong feeling that the amerikis have asked something big of India in afghanistan and that is why the gulfies have all pitched in saying that we are for peace between India and pak.e

Any guesses saar? If it's boots on ground, I'm for it at least in principle. They pay for supplies and logistics. Bharat Will take care of the rest. It is indias backyard, time to reclaim it.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 08:01**

Boots on the ground will be a disaster. We don't want Indian soldiers succumbing to what is essentially a war of IED and restrictive Rules of Engagement

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 09:09**

As long as TSP exists. No Indian boots on the ground.

It is beyond stupid.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 10:30**

Plus what's the objective? We should never send troops without a clear objective. IPKF was a lesson we learnt the hard way.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 10:40**

morem wrote:Boots on the ground will be a disaster. We don't want Indian soldiers succumbing to what is essentially a war of IED and restrictive Rules of Engagement

And that's exactly whats happened in Cashmere. Take the fight to them and away from desh. First rule of soopahpawa - fight battles away from home.

Pratyush wrote:As long as TSP exists. No Indian boots on the ground. It is beyond stupid.

As long as India keeps such a reflexively timid mentality (in the guise of prudence no less) of not venturing into its own backyard, TSP will always exist. Time to expand beyond the defensive approach.

morem wrote:Boots on the ground will be a disaster. We don't want Indian soldiers succumbing to what is essentially a war of IED and restrictive Rules of Engagement

What kind of disaster are you seeing in Kashmir? Even Chattisgarh? Take the battle to the jehadi-commie nexus and at least our bloodloss won't be forever.

I'm amazed at this defensive and rather instantaneously parochial approach even on BRF. Its like the idea that "we won't take the battle to you unless you bring it upon us" is genetically engineered into the mindset. And then we want to whine about BIF and whatnot!

Even a fatru country like Turkey understands this, even Iran. What to say of the bigger boys like P5.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 10:45**

Could we please take any speculation regarding Indian involvement in post-US-withdrawal Afghanistan to the Afghanistan thread?

Better yet, perhaps a thread in the mil forum where we can role play this as a comprehensive exercise? What does US want, what does India offer, and what does India get in exchange? What is the specific mission, what are the victory goals/exit conditions, what kind of deployments would be needed to accomplish those goals? Scalable up to what?

Only then can we decide if such a step is even remotely justifiable, let alone desirable from India's point of view. My personal sense is that it's guaranteed political suicide for any GOI to accept, even Modi sarkar. But I am willing to consider counter-arguments.

I suggest not on this thread, though.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 10:47**

arshyam wrote:Plus what's the objective? We should never send troops without a clear objective. IPKF was a lesson we learnt the hard way.

Objective is to fight TSP and Chinis in their (someone else's) backyard, not our own. Build pressure around the CPEC corridor and NWFP and CEntral Asia and see how quickly the pressure in Kashmir and other native hotspots reduces. NEVER SEND troops. WTH is the point of such a humungous Army otherwise? Keep waiting for the enemy to take initiative and clobber us whenever they want to - (Galwaan, Doklam, Kargil, Uri ityadi ityadi), and then cry uncle?

Now is the time. Strike a deal with US + Euros + Afghanistan - money and supplies for boots in Afghanistan. We will take it off their plate. We decide the ROE, we control the operations.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 10:56**

Does US even want that? Would the state department crooks let their favorite pet Pakistan get sandwiched by Indians? No I don't think they would ever want that. Biden administration views us as Russian agents. So they would rather hand over Afghanistan to China rather than India.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 11:21**

Another step for regime change:

U.S. Tells Citizens to Leave India

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 11:26**

We should have Indian boots on the ground in Afghanistan.
there should be pre-conditions like:
Land route from India to Afghanistan thru Kashmir.

We are better off with India-Pak war (of attrition) on Pak-Af border then Ind-Pak border.

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 12:39**

Indian boots on the ground in Afg, would be too much.

Democrats might only be asking for "small" things like negating the "FCRA act".

It\'s just the Americans trying to pull a fast one while GOI seems to be on pandemic backfoot

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 17:55**

India going into Afghanistan will work only if TSP ceases to exist and Taliban has no support from anyone. Thats the pre-requisite for any kind of success.

Unkil was either blind and dumb beyond belief not to see it. Or chickened out at the prospect of a 9-11 type revenge threat hanging on his head for years to come.

Either ways Unkil missed the most obvious trick to set Afghanistan on the right track.

India can do it in theory - money and boots on the ground is not the issue. Erasing TSP first is the issue.

If there was no covid and TSP made another Mumbai/Parliament type attack and the NATO + Quad powers stepped in to hold back China from intervenons, India can do it in retaliation.

In fact I think thats the ONLY way to fix TSP and then Afghanistan.

The real question is who in the world really cares/needs so much to fix TSP and Afghanistan ?

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 18:30**

A Deshmukh wrote:We should have Indian boots on the ground in Afghanistan.
there should be pre-conditions like:
Land route from India to Afghanistan thru Kashmir.

We are better off with India-Pak war (of attrition) on Pak-Af border then Ind-Pak border.

we have nothing much to gain now by sitting in afghanistan except pour money into a corrupt afghan regime that will have close encounters of the final kind with a lamp post, the minute the amerikis leave.

we have the means and the ability to strike deep into afghanistan. The pakis still covet the strategic depth afforded to them but primarily, it the hans who are very keen to enter and swallow afghanistan and make it a vassal state and raw material source. They aim to control the central asian republics from accessing the Indian ocean and kill any chance of oil/gas pipelines from these republics finding a market via the heavily trafficked gulf routes.

The hans are pushing the pakis to front for them, both here, as well as, in cashmere, in a bid to box India in and force it to allow the CPEC access via the Indian hinterlands as well as via the Indian ports. The climate and terrain are infinitely more hospitable here than the hostile route via gwadar

Also, the Indians are much more peaceable and amenable as compared to the pakis

Posted: **29 Apr 2021 18:33**

Cyrano wrote:India going into Afghanistan will work only if TSP ceases to exist and Taliban has no support from anyone. Thats the pre-requisite for any kind of success.

Unkil was either blind and dumb beyond belief not to see it. Or chickened out at the prospect of a 9-11 type revenge threat hanging on his head for years to come.

Either ways Unkil missed the most obvious trick to set Afghanistan on the right track.

India can do it in theory - money and boots on the ground is not the issue. Erasing TSP first is the issue.

If there was no covid and TSP made another Mumbai/Parliament type attack and the NATO + Quad powers stepped in to hold back China from intervenons, India can do it in retaliation.

In fact I think thats the ONLY way to fix TSP and then Afghanistan.

The real question is who in the world really cares/needs so much to fix TSP and Afghanistan ?

Uncle and Britain have always supported the Pakjabis, they dont want an Independent Baluchistan connected to CAR. The Pakjabis job is to be pain for everyone in the subcontinent. US was a friend of the Taliban till 9/11. And helped in the Kunduz airlift- they protected the Taliban at the cost of thier soldiers.

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 03:09**

https://www.rediff.com/news/column/bide ... 210429.htm
Biden's 'mild shock' to Modi
By Ambassador T P SREENIVASAN, April 29, 2021
The trust some people in India had that the Biden-Harris administration would be friendly to India has been eroded already, observes Ambassador T P Sreenivasan.
India's honeymoon with the Biden administration had not even begun when things began to go wrong, casting a shadow on a relationship which had held out many promises.
Commentators jumped to the conclusion that Republican presidents, even President Donald Trump, were more sensitive to India's aspirations and needs. The two sides were quick to grab the low hanging fruit, the Quad, but India, becoming of a shy bride, did not go far enough to call a spade a spade. Instead, Quad became a dialogue, not an instrument of action. Perhaps, President Biden's disappointment came through when India expected help.
Things appeared calm, but the first shock came from the very waters earmarked for intense cooperation. The commander of the US 7th Fleet made a shocking claim: 'On 7 April, 2021 USS John Paul Jones asserted navigational rights and freedoms... inside India's EEZ, without requesting India's prior consent.'
To add insult to injury, he added, 'India requires prior consent for military exercises or manoeuvres in its EEZ... a claim inconsistent with international law... This freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) upheld international law by challenging India's excessive maritime claims.'
The international law being quoted by the US was the Law of the Seas of 1982, which India had signed and the US had not! Admiral Arun Prakash, a retired chief of the naval staff, was aghast at this development. 'In an atmosphere of rapidly warming Indo-US relations, this gratuitous public declaration, coming within weeks of the US-led Quad Leaders virtual meeting and on the heels of a major Indo-US naval exercise can only be seen as an act of breath-taking inanity,' he wrote.
.....
Equally inexplicable was President Biden's reaction to India's request for components of a badly needed vaccine in an unprecedented emergency in India, which has been characterised even by the US media as 'beyond crisis'. India, having estimated that it had sufficient stocks of vaccine for itself, had exported Indian vaccines to as many as 92 countries as part of its vaccine diplomacy. The US reaction was astounding as the expectation was that the US would immediately announce all possible help, leaving the details to be worked out.
But a US state department spokesperson said that the Biden administration's first obligation was to take care of the requirements of the American people and that 'It is not only in the US interest to see Americans vaccinated; but it is in the interests of the rest of the world to see Americans vaccinated'. The reaction in India was not just one of disappointment, but of outrage that Biden acted against India's interests so soon after the formation of the Quad, which had pledged to work together against the pandemic.
.....
Gautam

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 04:18**

^^^I think MAD clearly knew that this regime was going to become troublesome when Blinken didn't show up for 2+2 dialog with Austin. Blinken was with Austin in Japan and SoKo for talks in March. Not only is the Quad dead, but the 2+2 framework established by the Obama administration and realized in the Trump administration is also dead.

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 14:16**

A Deshmukh wrote:We should have Indian boots on the ground in Afghanistan.
there should be pre-conditions like:
Land route from India to Afghanistan thru Kashmir.

We are better off with India-Pak war (of attrition) on Pak-Af border then Ind-Pak border.

why do we need a land route to afghanistan.

the pakis looted the nato convoys, demand protection money on a per container basis, and the land route that is being sought by people like you go right across paki land

what great chamatkaar are we going to do by putting ourselves at the mercy of the pakis by allowing them to loot our convoys.

why beg from the beggars. all the trucks "carrying Indian maal" will mandatorily be paki army crore kammandu owned. hamid gul, the ex isi chief and rabid Hindu hater ran a huge transport network of trucks

let the maal go via the long route. whose father what goes. India is never going to support the afghans on a permenant basis or even in the medium term. jehadis are jehadis. soon they wil show their sharia colors

These Indian convoys will carry mostly food and other basic essentials like medicines that the pakis desperately need for themselves.

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 14:36**

It's best to divide the jihadis and turn them against each other. Let the jihadis fight it out. We saw what happened recently in Pakistan. Their own rabid dog became too much powerful and attacked them instead and they had to accept his demands. That's exactly what should happen in Afghanistan. The strategic depth Pakis so much desire should turn into strategic nightmare.

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 17:57**

chetak wrote: why do we need a land route to afghanistan.

let me clarify.
Land route to Afghanistan thru Kashmir: I mean going thru Kashmir to Afghan and not thru Pak.
Useful for commerce beyond Afghanistan - central Asia.

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 19:10**

A Deshmukh wrote:
chetak wrote: why do we need a land route to afghanistan.
let me clarify.
Land route to Afghanistan thru Kashmir: I mean going thru Kashmir to Afghan and not thru Pak.
Useful for commerce beyond Afghanistan - central Asia.

A Deshmukh ji

where exactly is this "Land route to Afghanistan thru Kashmir" that you are talking about

also, which cashmere are you talking about and who, in your understanding, will protect the goods being transported

Indian trucks will be mandatorily unloaded at the Indian border and the load will be shifted to paki owned trucks which will then be transported at exorbitant cost to the paki border with afghanistan, where they will be again offloaded and put on afghan trucks and most of the goods, especially food grains, medicines and other essential stuff will be looted en route and the pakis will claim barefacedly that the taliban did it

no company will insure goods travelling this route ever, no matter how much premium one might be willing to pay so the Hindus take the hit as usual.

best to simply hand over the "goods" directly to the pakis, no

most of India's aid to afgjhanistan is food, medicines and other essential stuff which is also exactly what the pakis so very desperately need and are also trying very very hard to get from India via the wagah border

in this all this azan friendly clusterf(uk, who exactly are you trusting, the perfidious paki, the perfidious cashmeri, or the perfidious afghani.

all three are sharia compliant while you most certainly are not.

If we indeed had a secure and direct "Land route to Afghanistan thru Kashmir" why would we have built the expensive Chabahar Port, in perfidious eyran

Mirror mirror on the wall; history bears witness to what they did to us all

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 20:07**

Uh-oh. I was not clearer. meant Indian Kashmir - ~~PoK~~ Indian Kashmir - Afghanistan route.
No TSP.

Make a deal with US: Indian troops in Afghanistan, if US does not interfere our freeing up of PoK.

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 20:13**

A Deshmukh wrote:Uh-oh. I was not clearer. meant Indian Kashmir - ~~PoK~~ Indian Kashmir - Afghanistan route.
No TSP.

Make a deal with US: Indian troops in Afghanistan, if US does not interfere our freeing up of PoK.

hoo boy.

good luck with that, A Deshmukh ji.

the amerikis have nukes, as do we, the cheeni and the pakis.

so, it's back to a halal clusterf(uk again.

meanwhile, the pakis are trying to make a deal with the US regarding our cashmere.

Moving on.......

Posted: **30 Apr 2021 20:16**

A Deshmukh wrote:Uh-oh. I was not clearer. meant Indian Kashmir - ~~PoK~~ Indian Kashmir - Afghanistan route.
No TSP.

Make a deal with US: Indian troops in Afghanistan, if US does not interfere our freeing up of PoK.

saar that would be dream come true

direct access to afghanistan, tajikistan and entire badakhshan province. good to dream though

Posted: **01 May 2021 03:03**

US PLACING A TRAVEL BAN ON INDIA FROM TUESDAY 04 MAY 2021.

Posted: **01 May 2021 08:41**

Mort Walker wrote:US PLACING A TRAVEL BAN ON INDIA FROM TUESDAY 04 MAY 2021.

Its expected. Especially the double mutant already showed up in at least three places.

Posted: **01 May 2021 08:49**

g.sarkar wrote:https://www.rediff.com/news/column/bide ... 210429.htm
Biden's 'mild shock' to Modi
By Ambassador T P SREENIVASAN, April 29, 2021
The trust some people in India had that the Biden-Harris administration would be friendly to India has been eroded already, observes Ambassador T P Sreenivasan.
India's honeymoon with the Biden administration had not even begun when things began to go wrong, casting a shadow on a relationship which had held out many promises. {There never was this expectation except among deluded folks}
Commentators jumped to the conclusion that Republican presidents, even President Donald Trump, were more sensitive to India's aspirations and needs. The two sides were quick to grab the low hanging fruit, the Quad, but India, becoming of a shy bride, did not go far enough to call a spade a spade. Instead, Quad became a dialogue, not an instrument of action. Perhaps, President Biden's disappointment came through when India expected help. {No wonder such advisors were ruling the roost in UPA!}
Things appeared calm, but the first shock came from the very waters earmarked for intense cooperation. The commander of the US 7th Fleet made a shocking claim: 'On 7 April, 2021 USS John Paul Jones asserted navigational rights and freedoms... inside India's EEZ, without requesting India's prior consent.'
To add insult to injury, he added, 'India requires prior consent for military exercises or manoeuvres in its EEZ... a claim inconsistent with international law... This freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) upheld international law by challenging India's excessive maritime claims.'
The international law being quoted by the US was the Law of the Seas of 1982, which India had signed and the US had not! Admiral Arun Prakash, a retired chief of the naval staff, was aghast at this development. 'In an atmosphere of rapidly warming Indo-US relations, this gratuitous public declaration, coming within weeks of the US-led Quad Leaders virtual meeting and on the heels of a major Indo-US naval exercise can only be seen as an act of breath-taking inanity,' he wrote.
{The USN was playing kabbadi to claim to violate the EEZ. And were returning from a joint exercise in Arabian Sea}
.....
Equally inexplicable was President Biden's reaction to India's request for components of a badly needed vaccine in an unprecedented emergency in India, which has been characterised even by the US media as 'beyond crisis'. India, having estimated that it had sufficient stocks of vaccine for itself, had exported Indian vaccines to as many as 92 countries as part of its vaccine diplomacy. The US reaction was astounding as the expectation was that the US would immediately announce all possible help, leaving the details to be worked out.
But a US state department spokesperson said that the Biden administration's first obligation was to take care of the requirements of the American people and that 'It is not only in the US interest to see Americans vaccinated; but it is in the interests of the rest of the world to see Americans vaccinated'. The reaction in India was not just one of disappointment, but of outrage that Biden acted against India's interests so soon after the formation of the Quad, which had pledged to work together against the pandemic. { I suggest the writer go check with MEA is he still has contacts and clearances.}
.....
Gautam

Posted: **01 May 2021 09:48**

ramana wrote:
Mort Walker wrote:US PLACING A TRAVEL BAN ON INDIA FROM TUESDAY 04 MAY 2021.
Its expected. Especially the double mutant already showed up in at least three places.

Posted: **01 May 2021 20:16**

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... tries.html

Not sure what is so surprising, it was inevitable with the number of cases rising. Below is the list of countries that have similar bans already in place since earlier this year. Biden reinstated all these bans after coming in to office.

China
European Schengen areaexternal icon (Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City)
United Kingdomexternal icon (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland)
Republic of Ireland
Brazil
South Africa
India

Posted: **01 May 2021 23:02**

^^^No. It's a consistent pattern by the current US regime.

1. Denial of critical materials for vaccine production. Then flip-flop, and then again no timeline of AZ vaccine release or materials.
2. The bulk of the $100 million in "aid" is slated for opposition state governments and NGOs.
3. A travel ban knowing by then the GoI will have plans in place for current wave, and the ICMR indicates peak of active cases will be around 3.5M.
4. Avoided questions about the travel ban and put Kamala Harris upfront who couldn't even call it a travel ban.

The goal is to create regime change of the BJP government.

Posted: **02 May 2021 00:33**

Time to show what we're made of instead of crying about the rest of the world. Does China care about regime change? Then why should we? Why are we so focused on US and its wishes? The Indian voter votes in Indian elections not the US President. And BJP seems to be gaining ground everywhere in India.

India HAS to INVEST IN INDIA. Every Tom, Dick and Harry springs up from under every brick and want us to buy Rafales, F-35s, Su-35/57/Armata/.... when we have perfectly good LCA, Arjun and so on. If India invests in herself and stops its foolish grovelling the world over to satisfy the greed of politicians and others we will have a stronger more powerful nation.

But India is let down today when people are dying outside hospitals struggling for Oxygen. I do not believe in personalities anymore. I believe in my faith, I believe that Hindus cannot be targeted for their faith - taken out of buses and shot like dogs! They cannot be made to wear yellow badges and treated like animals. I believe that Hindus must rise and unashamedly reach for our destiny - to have a kinder gentler superpower! But we continue to see bumbling by those in charge and apologists covering for their mistakes by attacking others. The current situation cannot be described a success for the current government. People are dying in 1000s. And attacking the US does not take away from the current failures that have led to this human disaster and failure to lead.

INDIA MUST DEMAND MORE FROM ITS POLITICAL CLASS! Please don't make excuses to hide their failures - people die because of their blunders. The answer to our problems must not be sought from overseas but by inward thinking and relying on our own exceptionalism. Only then we will be able to make a better India.

Posted: **02 May 2021 00:45**

End of the day, US is the one responsible for creating chinese monster and enabling chinese monster. chinese didn't start researching viruses as of yesterday. It's US that allowed unfettered access to information and research to chinese from labs to universities.

Posted: **02 May 2021 00:52**

The US needs China for cheap consumer goods based on slave labor. It keeps inflation low while printing a $100 note costs four cents. The US can afford to import goods and services by outsiders while the USD is the international currency.

India has been targeted by the current US regime. Time for regime change in the US starting 2023. Remove Biden-Harris they are responsible for these Covid deaths.

Posted: **02 May 2021 03:42**

I think again the build must come from within. India does not wield influence to control the outcome of US elections and wasting that energy on a friendly nation is a waste of resources. And with elements of white supremacy and America first lurking beneath the surface, we should not fool ourselves. It is not in the Indian interest to make an enemy out of the US as being advocated here.

Instead India must build and work on an India First regime and pose a serious threat to hostile countries in the region. Before tangling with the US India needs to set Pakistan right and to do that it must force an arms buildup (procured domestically) unlike anything the Pukis have ever seen. Bankrupt them by raising expenditure on arms 3-4%.

Bharat Rakshak

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