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The "Honour Killing" Disease In Pakistan Claim Another Victim- This Time In Pakistan Occupied Kashmir :D

Couple murdered in Muzaffarabad in likely 'honour killing'

In this day and age of 24/7 Media and globalization, couples being murdered by family members under the so-called name of "honour killing" is giving a "bad name" indeed to "Pakistan culture " all over the world. In Pakistan, "falling in love" is a taboo, likely to get you killed . Parents usually betroth their daughters to first or second cousins and rarely to strangers . So, if a daughter's fate is already decided upon by the parents , without her daughter's input on this important matter, and if the daughter strays away or elopes in a "love marriage" she becomes a target for so-called honour killing. One would think that the disease of "honour killing" is restricted to uneducated or semi educated families . Not so. ! This Pakistaniyat concept is well and alive in upper circles as well as among Non Resident Pakis :mrgreen:
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JohnTitor wrote:^^ I think there is confusion about acknowledging Jadav as a citizen.

I was referring to how best it would have been for Jadav on a personal level. Remember that he is being tortured because he is Indian. The question is would he have had to endure that torture if he wasn’t seen an an Indian?

That doesn’t mean to say we don’t do whatever is needed to bring him back.
so just if India hadn't acknowledged him as a citizen, pakis would have stopped being being pakis and would have let him go ?

they wouldn't have already known/guessed his country of origin unless MEA confirmed it ?
(this takes the cake) they wouldn't have wondered from where this stateless person originated ? surely if he was in Iran that country must have records of him arriving on an Indian passport or should we have simply started emulating pakis in calling nights day and assume the world is being fooled.
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Pakistan must be blamed for Mistreatment of Kulbhushan Jadhav's family: Pakistani Media



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Seems my tweet about the Palestinian ambassador to Pakistan Walid Abu Ali attending a rally on Friday organized by the Difah-e-Pakistan Council along with JUD chief Hafiz Saeed (to condemn Trump's Jerusalem policy) has created ripples across the border in India

Mainstream of Hafiz- Ur- Suar ( Training In "Diplomacy") :roll:
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One More Confirmation That There Is A "Civil War" Like Situation In FATA :evil:

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1200 elders from #Fata are killed, jet bombard their homes, killed their children and destroyed their homes, and they're asked to take Pakistan flags and say Zindabad, who can say like that in such situation? asks Mahmood Khan #Achakzai #No2FataMerger
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^Hafiz Suar for P(rime) M(onster) of Bakistan!

It will be great to see international terrorist addressing the UN as representative of Bakistan! Only a terrorist can represent a nation of terrorists.
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Interpol Being Unnecessarily Dragged In Paki Domestic Affairs :roll:

Imran Farooq murder: Interior Ministry approves FIA's request for red warrants of suspects
The Interior Ministry on Friday approved a request by the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) for red warrants of three suspects in the murder of Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) leader Imran Farooq.Following the approval, FIA will contact the International Criminal Police Organisation (Interpol) to send out red warrants for three prominent MQM-London members — Anwar Hussain, Iftikhar Hussain and Kashif Khan Kamran. The FIA will also contact the Interpol headquarter in France to ask for assistance in the ongoing murder investigation. In the past, Pakistan has tried to "use" Interpol and Scotland Yard as well to settle its score with Altaf Bhai and MQM. No less than Imran Khan was asked to use his "London influence" to get Altaf deported. All has come to nil. This is yet another attempt - as election time is appearing :mrgreen:
According to the approval notice, a copy of which is available with DawnNews, the FIA has been requested to carry out an "in-depth scrutiny of the documents so as to gauge its legal and technical strength, before filing an application for issuance of red notice with the Interpol". Interpol has no mandate to investigate a country's domestic political situation, which this is !
The agency has been directed to ensure the arrest of the three suspects and have them brought back to Pakistan as soon as the warrants are issued.
Earlier this month, an anti-terrorism court had issued non-bailable arrest warrants for MQM founder Altaf Hussain during a hearing of Farooq's murder case in Adiala Jail.
Farooq, aged 50, was on his way home from work when he was attacked in Green Lane on September 16, 2010, outside his London home. A post-mortem examination had revealed that he died from multiple stab wounds and blunt trauma to the head.A five-and-a-half inch bladed kitchen knife and a house brick used in the attack were recovered at the scene, London police had said in the report.
FIA had registered a case against the MQM founder and other senior party leaders in 2015 for their alleged involvement in Farooq's murder. Mohsin, Moazzam and Shamim were arrested in the same year over suspicion of involvement in the killing.Relevant clauses of the Anti-Terrorism Act and the clauses of conspiracy, assistance, abatement and assassination/murder were included in the first information report. London- the original "mother" of Pakistan has become the de-facto capital of Pakiland . Paki politicos looting Paki Exchequers of billions and billions of dollars are either investing their loot in London real estate or surrounding countryside ( Ganja, Dus Percenti, Mush( ? )Tareen of PTI,) or using the financial capital of the world as a conduit to investing elsewhere. On the other hand, London has also become the political refuge of all strips of Paki politicos ( Nawaz, Zardari, Altaf , Ishaq Dar, Mush, Rehman Malik ) to either escape Paki laws for their mis-doings or take advantage of the British Legal System to escape being deported )
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"Indian Prank Calls" Upsets Isloo Police

‘Indian’ man floods Islamabad police with phone calls saying ‘Jai Hind’ :D
NEW DELHI. The Islamabad Police today filed a complaint against an unidentified person they said is Indian, for making frequent phone calls to their control room and asking them to raise 'Jai Hind' slogans, reported Pakistan's The Express Tribune.
The caller reportedly flooded the phone-lines of the Islamabad Police control room on December 25 and demanded he be put on the phone with senior police officials. He allegedly even issued threats to the officers who took his call. RAA plat to "get even" :roll:
Initially, the cops couldn't ascertain the nationality of the caller through his language, but they were offended by him constantly saying 'Jai Hind' and therefore assumed he is Indian. Islamabad police, the best trained in the "whole of Pakistan" the world :D not trained enough to identify Yindoos on the phone. Heads must "roll" :shock:
Later, the caller claimed that he was speaking from India and that his name was "Zashe", ( Mossad? and therefore "Jewish plot" :roll: ) said the Tribune. :roll:
"The calls started coming in around 3:30 in the morning. The caller wanted to speak to the Inspector General of Police and the Deputy Inspector General. When his requests were turned-down, he intimidated us with objectionable language", :lol: must be in Hindi or Urdu for sure. same in both languages ! :mrgreen: said sub-inspector Shabbir Ahmed, who was deployed in the control room.
"He told us to raise 'Jai Hind' slogans," Ahmed added. Was he "authorized" to speak to Paki media :roll:
As the caller line identification of the control room was dysfunctional, (like the police :D ) the officers-in-charge had to take help from the Pakistan Telecommunication Company Limited (PTCL) to trace the caller's number. PTCL reportedly confirmed that the calls were coming from India.
Isloo Police should get its act together :mrgreen:

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What to talk of a live call from India? Now a days, Pakistan is afraid of shoes, sleepers, mangal sutra, bindi, sari and what not? They see nuclear bomb in everything. They may now, be afraid of breathing airs that flow to their side from Indian side. Cowards, as they are!Rajendra Prasad Sinha
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Only In Pakistan: A National Security Advisor Warns / Dictates To Nawaz Sharif - An Ex Prime Minister Of Pakistan :shock:

Nawaz Sharif - Naseer Janjua meeting inside details revealed
LAHORE - The mystery regarding an unusual meeting between the National Security Adviser (NSA) Lt Gen (retd) Nasser Khan Janjua with deposed premier Nawaz Sharif seemed to resolve as sources have revealed the inside details of the extra ordinary meeting lasting over 5 hours.
Tribune has reported that NSA Naseer Janjua has advised him to avoid civil-military confrontation in view of looming security threats. Nawaz told not to "rouse the aawam" by his speeches !
The meeting, according to sources, was part of backdoor developments in connection with the future of the Sharif family in mainstream politics.
The huddle, which reportedly stretched over five hours, was also attended by Maryam Nawaz, a close confidante of the ruling family of UAE and Chaudhry Munir, (the new entrant into the "family business"!) the father-in-law of Maryam’s daughter.
Insiders said Janjua briefed Nawaz that the country was under threat from both the US and India, and the next few months were critical. Pakistan, he said, could come under attack :roll: [in the backdrop of US President’s Donald Trump’s changing policy for South Asia].
Nawaz, sources added, was advised to tone down his rhetoric and not be a divisive [political] force in the country at this critical time. Or else....... fill in the blanks :mrgreen: [/size]
Meanwhile, sources close to Punjab Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif claimed that one of close friends of the Sharif family, Sheikh Saeed had played a key role in making his visit to Saudi Arabia possible through his contact with Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the US.
The meetings in Riyadh will likely focus on the woes of Sharif family and the possible role the Saudi royals could play in creating a common ground between them and the military establishment.Sources claimed that now Pakistan’s “reliable friends” were engaging with Shehbaz as he is likely to become the next prime minister of the country. Additional pressure will be applied from the Saudi side. The quid pro quo, IMO, being that the Establishment will make every effort to ensure that Shahbaz (not Imran !) will be selected as PM :D
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Neelum-Jhelum project enters final stage

LAHORE: The 969-megawatt (MW) Neelum-Jhelum Hydropower Project – a hydel power generating scheme of strategic importance – is in its final stage of completion, a press release issued by the Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) said on Friday.

It further listed completion of dam and start of water filling in the reservoir, completion of water way system comprising 51.5-kilometre long tunnels, installation of turbines, generators, transformers and other electro-mechanical equipment in the powerhouse, and dry testing of electro-mechanical equipment, as the infrastructural operational ‘milestones’ achieved.

“The transmission line by the NTDC is expected to be completed by the end of this month, while water filling (pressurisation) of water way system will commence during first week of January 2018,” the release said.

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According To This Report, The Saudis Have Decided To Bail Out Pakistan. Once Again !

Why Sharifs have gone to Saudi Arabia, inside details revealed
Dec 29, 2017
ISLAMABAD - The abrupt departure of Punjab Chief Minister Shehbaz Sharif to Saudi Arabia has triggered speculations about a possibility of another NRO (National Reconciliation Ordinance) for the Sharifs, at a time when elections are around the corner.
This was followed by the mysterious departure of PML-N lawmakers Khwaja Saad Rafique and Pervaiz Malik to Saudi Arabia – both are considered close aides of Nawaz Sharif who himself is set to board a plane Friday along with his daughter, Maryam Nawaz.
Informed diplomatic sources toldPakistan Today that Saudi Arabia is not going to play any role in adding to the political crisis of Pakistan. They said that the Saudis would play a role for political stability, continuity of democratic system, and will urge :roll: the elder Sharif to put an end to targeting the military and judiciary. So, the Saudis have agreed to the "dirty job" !
“Sharif family will be advised to show restraint and allow a smooth transition of power. Pakistan is all set to enter a crucial phase as the early harvesting phase of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) is consolidating next year,” the sources said. So, Sharif is not likely to be "part of the early harvesting... of CPEC", guess he will be watching "the harvesting" on Saudi TV. Too bad, so sad :twisted:
The sources disclosed that Saudi Arabia wants Pakistan to rise as a robust economic force as economic and political stability are the need of the hour. They also said that the kingdom will also announce a hefty economic package to Pakistan help meet its economic challenges. Not to worry, Raheel is there :mrgreen:
“This economic package would not be for the ruling party. Saudi Arabia is helping the state of Pakistan as the bond between the two countries is not limited to certain individuals, but it is a bond between the brotherly states. It also reflects the trust and faith Saudi Arabia has in the state of Pakistan, its government and people,” the diplomatic source told Pakistan Today on anonymity. The quid pro quo is of course, the of the shelf Islam Bum at the disposal of the Saudi State, and the mercenary nature of the Paki Army in Saudi, to protect the Royal Saudis and their throne, in case of a surprising uprising :mrgreen:
It is pertinent to mention here that the economic package is a part of an understanding reached between King Salman and Pakistani leadership during the recent visit of Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi and army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa, wherein both dignitaries had urged the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to help Pakistan meet its imminent economic woes. So, it was a "begging delegation"- not disclosed at that time for obvious reasons - to replace the economic squeeze being imposed by Massa. No wonder, the Pakis are stubbing their noses at POTUS !
The request for assistance from Saudi royal family included the provision of oil on deferred payment mode besides financial assistance. The "whole cycle" is going to repeat itself again, albeit under New Paki Management !
As the country is all set to enter the election year with a heavy development programme, Pakistan is facing economic challenges, including repayment of $ 6 billion to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and other foreign creditors in the next six months. When will the "act of juggling" the huge debt going to stop? . Will there be a day of reckoning?. When will Pakistan stop living beyond its known sources of income ?
In addition to this, Pakistan’s trade deficit has reached $12.1 billion in the first four months of the current fiscal year due to increasing imports of the country, which have put further pressure on the foreign exchange reserves.
Pakistan’s exports were registered at $7.1 billion during July-October of 2017, whereas imports touched $19.2 billion. Although Pakistan floated $2.5 billion Euro Bonds in the international market last month to boost the reserves, the economic experts suggested that Pakistan will again have to go to the IMF if there is no immediate financial injection. The rupee slide also has been witnessed recently that led to an increase in the country’s total loan. The Pakis can also rely on the generosity of the Saudi Sheikhs ( the Ummah factor !) . China, the taller than mountain fliend, is not in the business of bailing out it "staunch ally" :twisted:
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Opposition Leader Questions Pakistan's Subservience To Saudi Arabia :mrgreen:

Khursheed Shah raises questions over Sharif brothers' visits to Saudi Arabia
Leader of the Opposition Khursheed Shah, while holding a press conference in Lahore on Friday, raised questions over Nawaz Sharif's impending visit to Saudi Arabia."Today, the nation is watching. The people are interested in knowing why Shahbaz Sharif is in Saudi Arabia and why Nawaz may be visiting soon."
According to a party source, Nawaz may depart for the Gulf kingdom on Saturday. His younger brother is already in the Gulf state on an “official” visit. The chief minister had been flown by a special plane of the Saudi government on Wednesday. He is believed to have levelled the ground for the visit of the elder Sharif. The "clever brother" living up to his reputation :D
"Now if something comes to pass and Saudi Arabia intervenes, then it would be shameful that Pakistan — a nuclear power — cannot make its own decisions," Shah said. :lol: Saudi Arabia wants Bum. Saudi Arabia gets Islamic Bomb. Saudi Arabia wants Raheel, Saudi Arabia gets Raheel !
"We should have our own policies and our own rule of law. We should be making our own decisions and it makes me sad that we look to others for support," he added. The Pakjabis of Pakiland are great "boot lickers". Shah is a Sindhi ! :mrgreen:
Answering a question regarding Nawaz's visit, Shah said, "It looks like the matter may be moving towards forgiveness and that a National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO) may be on the horizon, which is sad.""If such a situation arises, I think we would have to send our judiciary big locks to shut the courts and go home."
The opposition leader also spoke about the Inter-Services Public Relations' (ISPR) reaction to Khawaja Saad Rafique's comments on the army's chain of command."I have heard the minister for railway's speech. I do not think that it warranted such a major reaction from the ISPR," Shah said.
Director General of ISPR Major General Asif Ghafoor on Thursday had criticised Rafique's remarks regarding junior officers' apparent lack of commitment to the army chief's orders and said, "The statement was extremely irresponsible and unwarranted, as it targets the chain of command. The Pakistan Army is a disciplined institution and the army chief's orders are followed without question." :((
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Another Hindu Woman Abducted In Sind :evil:

The same drama will resurface: Production in court . Will attest willing conversion to Malsi and "love" with her new husband . Case closed !
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With Ganja Out Of Favour, The Paki Establishment Takes Imran's Advice And Gets Tough On Qatari As Well As Emiratis Out On Houbara Hunting :mrgreen:

Another Arab party in Sindh on 'illegal' hunting trip: official
A royal guest from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) reached Thar on Friday to hunt rare species in the area, an official of the Sindh Wildlife Department told Dawn.
However, District Game Officer (DGO) Ashfaque Memon said Emirati politician and member of UAE royalty Mohammed Bin Khalifa Al Maktoum seeks to hunt without securing official permission to do so. Although, the Gulf Arabs treated Pakis as dirt ( call them "Hindu Muslims" an insulting term, the Pakis still kow tow to them !
Memon said Mohammed's royal entourage had landed at the Chanri Airport in Badin and proceeded to Thar. His group had set up camp at the Jat Tarai village near Diplo. He also said Rangers personnel had been deputed to provide security to the royal guest.The DGO said the visiting party was in grave violation of rules and regulations as it was using a hunting permit issued to one of his relatives, Sheikh Ahmed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum. The Arabs pump money into the local economy !
Memon disclosed to Dawn that he was being pressurised from certain quarters to allow the party to hunt. He, however, vowed not to bow to pressure. He said his department had already been in touch with police and other authorities to dislodge the encampments set up by the royal guest.
Earlier in the month, eight people, including four Arabs and a senior district council official, had been arrested in Balochistan for illegally hunting the endangered houbara bustard near the Pak-Afghan border in Nushki district. The Shamsi Air Force Base, in the same desert area leased to the Amreekis by Mush following 9/11 , from where drones were flying to spy on Pakistan, was originally built by the Arabs for their hunting pleasure :mrgreen:
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Sukkur Airport Lounge Converted into a Shadi Hall by Opposition Leader[*][/url]

[*] Temporary Basis Onlee, Not Permanently :D [/color]
Despite the security situation in Pakistan – especially at airports – the opposition leader from National Assembly Syed Khurshid Ahmed Shah converted Sukkur airport’s passenger lounge into a party hall. Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) and Airport Security Force (ASF) took no action against this situation.
On the December 27th, a large number of guests arrived from different parts of Pakistan to participate in Benazir Bhutto’s 10th death anniversary. All of the flights landed at Sukkur Airport.
Syed Khurshid Ahmed Shah arranged a special lunch for his friends and other members of the party on the occassion
An eye witness choosing to stay anonymous told ProPakistani that the passenger lounge was divided into different parts. All the central leaders of Pakistan People’s Party, Senators, MNA and MPA attended this lunch. They seemed happy on breaking the law. He added, The preparations began on December 26th. People were entering the lounge and other sensitive areas without any security checks. On December 27th, the celebrations commenced at 11:00 am and continued till late evening without any breaks. Sukkur and adjoining areas are PPP territory, no matter which Govt "rules" at the Federal Level :mrgreen:
The witness said that the regular passengers were harassed and forced to sit on a side in the lounge and were not even allowed to use the restrooms during the event.
A higher official of CAA told ProPakistani that over the last 10 years, this has become a routine. Syed Khurshid Ahmed Shah arranges party at the airport lounge and if somebody tries to stop them he or she faces a very hard time. The official said,
This is a 10 year old practice of Khurshid Ahmed Shah and nobody has the authority to stop him. Sukkur is the city of opposition leaders so no one dares annoy him
Only in Pakistan :D [/size]
The officer also told that Sukkur airport becomes very busy due to special flights and VVIP charted flights on December 27th. The airport hangars are packed with commercial planes.It is worth mentioning that Pakistan Air Force (PAF) also uses Sukkur airport for transportation and other operational usage. This kind of a security lapse is dangerous and miscreants can take advantage of the lax security in this situation. Deep State surely to issue a "cease and desist" order after reading this :twisted:
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Falijee wrote:Maulana Diesel "Against" Merger Of FATA With KP

JUI-F holds rally against merging of tribal areas into KP
Of course, Fazlur Rehman has a vested interest in keeping FATA as it is because he 'rules' there. He will be supported in this by his rival otherwise, Mullah Sandwich.
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See this:
Gambhir had come to limelight after delivering India's stinging response to Pakistani leader's speech at the UNGA last year. This year, she went a step ahead and described Pakistan as “Terroristan” in her speech at the General Assembly.
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sunnyP wrote:And we still vote for these terrorist lovers at the UN.
Palestine Envoy Shares Stage With Hafiz Saeed In Pak, India Says Will Take Up Strongly
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And so the Palestinians demonstrate why their being tarred with the appellation of being the original modern day Mohammadden Terrorists was not undeserved by the action of the Palestinian “Ambassador” to the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Waleed Abu Ali, attending a rally organized by the Difah-e-Pakistan Council, an umbrella group of 40 Mohammadden belief based extremist groups in Pakistan, headed by the United Nations Designated Terrorist and one of the Masterminds of 26/11 Mumbai attack, Hafiz Mohammad Saeed.

So much for Palestinian gratitude for India’s support last week at the United Nations General Assembly for the resolution opposing the US move of shifting of their Embassy to Jerusalem.

Another article, this time from Indrani Bagchi at Times of India, on the topic:

Palestine's Pakistan envoy shares dais with Hafiz Saeed, India issues demarche
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That cartoon qadri is now active again.
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Guys, before even calling KJ a spy, his background and posting suggest lot more to do about chabahar business. A spy do not carry his real identity documents in enemy territory.

Please do not jump to conclusion just because pakis are shouting a lie 100 times.
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disha wrote:^Hafiz Suar for P(rime) M(onster) of Bakistan!

It will be great to see international terrorist addressing the UN as representative of Bakistan! Only a terrorist can represent a nation of terrorists.
if he becomes PM of pak expect pakis and the paki pasand in India, US, UK etc to do an equal equal with Modi citing him being on the US religious-freedom or whatever list.
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abhijitm wrote:Guys, before even calling KJ a spy, his background and posting suggest lot more to do about chabahar business. A spy do not carry his real identity documents in enemy territory.

Please do not jump to conclusion just because pakis are shouting a lie 100 times.
KJ is payback for kasab.

KJ was in the wrong place (eyeran) doing business when his luck simply ran out.

"Innocent" is not a term understood by ANY malsi.

I fear that KJ will not survive to return though I wish with all by heart that he does.
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Rahul M wrote: if he becomes PM of pak expect pakis and the paki pasand in India, US, UK etc to do an equal equal with Modi citing him being on the US religious-freedom or whatever list.
Chateratis & Dogeratis will bark. Hafiz Suar is an international UN designated terrorist. And that is a fact!
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US may deny millions in aid for Pakistan

Adam Goldman, Mark Landler, Eric Schmitt | NYT News Service

WASHINGTON: When Pakistani forces freed a Canadian-American family this fall held captive by militants, they also captured one of the abductors. United States officials saw a potential windfall: He was a member of the Taliban-linked Haqqani network who could perhaps provide valuable information about at least one other American hostage.

The Americans demanded access to the man, but Pakistani officials rejected those requests, the latest disagreement in the increasingly dysfunctional relationship between the countries. Now, the Trump administration is strongly considering whether to withhold $255 million in aid that it had delayed sending to Islamabad, according to US officials, as a show of dissatisfaction with Pakistan's broader intransigence toward confronting the terrorist networks that operate there.

The administration's internal debate over whether to deny Pakistan the money is a test of whether President Donald Trump will deliver on his threat to punish Islamabad for failing to cooperate on counterterrorism operations. Relations between the United States and Pakistan, long vital for both, have chilled steadily since the president declared over the summer that Pakistan " gives safe haven to agents of chaos, violence and terror."

The United States, which has provided Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid since 2002, said in August that it was withholding the $255 million until Pakistan did more to crack down on internal terrorist groups. Senior administration officials met this month to decide what to do about the money, and US officials said a final decision could be made in the coming weeks.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the sensitive discussions, did not detail what conditions Pakistan would have to meet to receive the aid. It was not clear how the United States found out about the militant's arrest, but a US drone had been monitoring the kidnappers as they moved deeper into Pakistan.

Caitlan Coleman, an American, and her Canadian husband, Joshua Boyle, were freed along with their children in an October raid after five years in captivity. Pakistani troops confronted Haqqani militants as they ferried the family across the tribal lands of northwest Pakistan.

The Trump administration has foreshadowed a cutoff in recent days with harsher language. Last week, in announcing his national security strategy, Trump again singled out Pakistan for criticism. " We make massive payments every year to Pakistan+ ," he said. "They have to help."

Vice President Mike Pence reinforced that message in a visit to Afghanistan just before Christmas, telling cheering US troops that "President Trump has put Pakistan on notice." The reaction of his audience was notable, analysts said, since the Pentagon has historically been one of Pakistan's defenders in Washington because of its long-standing ties to the Pakistani military.

Pakistan, however, has few friends in Trump's National Security Council. Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, the national security adviser, served in Afghanistan, where he saw firsthand how Pakistan meddled in its neighbor's affairs. Lisa Curtis, the council's senior director for South and Central Asia, brought critical views about Pakistan from her previous post at the conservative Heritage Foundation.

In a report she wrote in February with Husain Haqqani, Pakistan's former ambassador to Washington, the two called for the administration to "avoid viewing and portraying Pakistan as an ally." If Pakistan did not take steps to show its commitment to US counterterrorism goals, they wrote, Trump should strip it of its status as a major non-NATO ally.

Such a step would be more punitive than withholding the $255 million in State Department assistance known as Foreign Military Financing, Haqqani said in an interview, because it would deprive Pakistan of access to military equipment. He said Pakistani officials were bracing for some kind of aid cutoff.

Pakistan's military, he said, still views its accommodation of the Haqqani network as in its security interest. To overcome that, the Trump administration would have to pursue other, more punishing measures, either by imposing targeted sanctions on the government or removing it from the list of non-NATO allies.

"Pakistan can withstand a cutoff in American aid," Haqqani said. "It would have to be followed by something else to make Pakistan believe that Mr. Trump means business."

In July, the Pentagon said it would withhold $50 million in military reimbursements for Pakistan because the country had not taken "sufficient action" against the Haqqani network.

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This is a drama. I will take it seriously when US stops parts for f16 and amraam.
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After having seen it all over decades, I cannot but be cynical.
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Pakistani pilgrims unable to attend Nizamuddin Aulia's Urs after India postpones visa issuance

In a last-minute decision, India has postponed the issuance of visas to 192 Pakistani pilgrims who wished to attend the annual Urs of Khawaja Nizamuddin Aulia, which is to take place in Delhi from January 1-8, 2018, a press release from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said on Saturday.

According to the press release, the move has effectively "deprived" pilgrims from attending the death anniversary of the 13th century mystic, who is revered by many on both sides of the border.

The non-issuance of visas before the Urs ceremony is also a violation of the spirit of the 1974 Pakistan-India Protocol on Visits to Religious Shrines agreement, the press release said.

The decision comes just two days after Pakistan freed 145 Indian fishermen as a goodwill gesture amidst a war of words between New Delhi and Islamabad over the circumstances of the meeting between convicted Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav and his family. Pakistan had allowed Jadhav's wife and mother to meet him on "humanitarian grounds".

In June this year, several Sikh pilgrims travelling to Pakistan for the death anniversary of Guru Arjan Dev as well as Maharaja Ranjit Singh were stopped by the Indian government despite issuance of visas by the Pakistani High Commission in India.

Only 16 pilgrims were able to arrive in Pakistan to attend the death anniversary of Guru Arjan Dev in the second week of June, after India kept more than 200 Sikh pilgrims from visiting over "technical grounds". The handful of pilgrims that managed to arrive came aboard the Samjhota Express instead of the special train arranged for yatrees.

Later in the same month, India stopped over 300 Sikh pilgrims, who wished to attend the death anniversary of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, from crossing the border citing refusal from the Indian Ministry of External Affairs to clear their names for travel.

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Karan M wrote: Jadhav would be tortured and murdered if India had not intervened. He was abducted from Iran as a bargaining chip. When TSP sees India does not acknowledge the chip, they would have disposed of him. India is doing the right thing. They created enough of a gaze on him, that he is now in the public spotlight & by taking his case to the ICJ, its even better. The chances for Mr Jadhav are slim, but a lot sight better than they would have been without the media glare. He would have been tortured regularly.
You're probably right. Either way he would have been tortured. Pakis being pakis, nothing else can br expected.

I just hope we can get him home alive and well. Though as I type this, I find myself lacking in confidence that that will happen. :(
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Ganja Family Privacy Protected By British Police !

Met Police issues warning to Pakistani for filming Hassan Nawaz’s children: report
LONDON: The Metropolitan police issued a warning to a Pakistani national on filming former Nawaz Sharif’s son, Hassan Nawaz’s young children, reported a local media outlet.
This warning was issued after a small film on August 6, containing Hassan Nawaz’s sons aged 5 and 10, started making rounds on the social media. The video was allegedly filmed while Hassan Nawaz was shopping with his wife and kids at London’s Morrisons Supermarket. The filmed was aired on local television channels and carried on several social media accounts without the consent of parents, which is a breach of laws in England that protect minors under 16 in England and Wales. The hand of PTI workers in this alleged violation - cannot be ruled out :D
The maker of the film, Shahbaz Ayub Qureshi, has given a written undertaking to the authorities admitting that filming Hassan Nawaz’s children without the consent of a parent, was contrary to the law of England & Wales and that he would never attempt any such thing again. He said he was not aware that it was an illegal act in England. He also said that he has removed the illegal content from his website and has also requested several social media accounts take it off.
Hasan Nawaz Sharif’s lawyer also wrote to Qureshi and warned him of consequences as the faces of Hassan Nawaz’s children were visible in the footage.Hassan Nawaz Sharif told the newspaper that he has no problem with being filmed but little children should not be dragged into politics.He said that he holds no personal grudge against the person who filmed the kids especially as he apologised and confirmed that a thing like this wouldn’t happen again. British laws can be taken advantage off in the best tradition of Taqqiya ! Why not ask Abbaji ( Nawaz) and his minions still ruling Pakistan not to violate human rights of millions of Pakistanis !
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Paki COAS Tries His Hand At Amreeki - Style PR- Giri :mrgreen:

Pakistan Army chief assures ailing child of support
LAHORE: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Qamar Javed Bajwa on Friday fulfilled wish of an ailing child within two hours.The ailing child, Ahsan Hussain, recorded a video message seeking help from the Army chief.
“I am a student of 9th class. My heart is working only 20 percent. Doctor says I need heart tranplantation which is very costly,” he said in the video.The boy was admitted to Children Hospital in Lahore since December 1. He is suffering from dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM), a condition in which the heart’s ability to pump blood is decreased.
He requested the Army chief to help him. “I am waiting for you.” Within two hours of recording the video message, the COAS responded to the request. On instruction of Qamar Javed Bajwa Corps Commander Lahore Lieutenant General Aamer Riaz visited him at the hospital and ensured him support of the Army chief.The child was later shifted to CMH Lahore for medical treatment. Parents of the kid has thanked the COAS for this kind act. Meanwhile in FATA hundreds and thousands of tribesmen are displaced from their homes , their medical needs are ignored, and foreign NGO willing to help them, are asked to leave !
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Former General Meets His Seventy Two !


Former CJCSC Gen Khalid Shamim Wynne dies in road accident near Rawalpindi

30 Dec 2017
SLAMABAD – Former Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gen (r) Khalid Shamim Wynne lost his life in a road mishap near Chakri interchange on Saturday.
According to media reports, the former four-star general who served as the 14th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee was travelling on Lahore-ISB motorway M2 when the tyre of his vehicle burst following which it overturned.
Besides his role as CJCSC, Whynne had also served as field operational Commander of XII Corps in Quetta from 2010-2013, overseeing the insurgency in Balochistan and retired from the armed forces in October 2013.
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Jadhav was never arrested from Balochistan: Baloch leader
Baloch leader Hyrbyair Marri has stated that Kulbhushan Jadhav was "never arrested from Balochistan", in fact he was, "abducted from Iran by Pakistani state-sponsored religious proxies and handed over to Pakistani forces."
"The Indian citizen Jadhav was never arrested from Balochistan. He was, in fact, abducted from Iran by Pakistani state-sponsored religious proxies and handed over to Pakistani forces. There have been numerous such incidents in the past where religious extremists abducted Baloch refugees in Afghanistan or on their way to Afghanistan and sold them to ISI and army," said Marri. Such reports also surfaced during that time !
"In the late 70s and the 80s element of Pakistan-backed Taliban killed innocent Marri Baloch refugees, severed their heads from the body and took pictures to get head money from ISI and the Pakistani army," he added.
"If Pakistan can disrespect an elderly woman who travelled from India to visit her son then it should not need rocket science to imagine what the Baloch prisoners, including women and children, go through at Pakistan army's secret and illegal detention centres," Marri said.
Warning against Pakistan's deception, the Baloch leader added that Pakistan is not a country to be trusted because "we Baloch have experienced and learnt that Pakistan is the poisonous snake that bites the very hand which feeds it."
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 300180.cms

I will not be surprised that in short medium term there will be Palestinian style intifasa uprising in Kashmir after inputs from Palestinian Authority.

I am deeply disappointed with Palestinian behaviour as they can't claim ignorance as name Hafiz Saeed would have jumped out in invitation list.

I think we need to move embassy to Jeruselum now. They have opened their cards and let known which side they are and it is our turn to play.

I am very surprised how Indian enemies are surviving well and good in a nation which is 300 miles wide. It seems that we don't have ground intelligence or capacity to operate surreptitiously in enemy nation.
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ashish raval wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 300180.cms

I will not be surprised that in short medium term there will be Palestinian style intifasa uprising in Kashmir after inputs from Palestinian Authority.

I am deeply disappointed with Palestinian behaviour as they can't claim ignorance as name Hafiz Saeed would have jumped out in invitation list.

I think we need to move embassy to Jeruselum now. They have opened their cards and let known which side they are and it is our turn to play.

I am very surprised how Indian enemies are surviving well and good in a nation which is 300 miles wide. It seems that we don't have ground intelligence or capacity to operate surreptitiously in enemy nation.
the palestinians have always been like this. They (used) to draw strength from our so called powerful minority vote banks who were nurtured by congis and commies.

our "leaders" have always romanced these nut cases and others like fidel castro.

they, our leaders were content to "chato" their vote banks and get re elected.

times are changing.
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Falijee wrote:Paki COAS Tries His Hand At Amreeki - Style PR- Giri :mrgreen:

Pakistan Army chief assures ailing child of support
He is suffering from dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM), a condition in which the heart’s ability to pump blood is decreased. . . On instruction of Qamar Javed Bajwa Corps Commander Lahore Lieutenant General Aamer Riaz visited him at the hospital and ensured him support of the Army chief.The child was later shifted to CMH Lahore for medical treatment.
But, how can shifting to CMCH help the patient? They don't do heart transplants in Pakistan, do they? Cardiomyopathy at this stage of 20% heart capacity cannot be treated by medicines. The Army chief has to swallow his pride and ask GoI for a visa & treatment. Nothing else will work.

I wonder why the Pakistanis don't go to the taller than the tallest mountain friend China for treatment.
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Palestine conveys 'deep regret', recalls envoy who shared stage with Hafiz Saeed.

Palestine has decided to recall its ambassador to Pakistan, Walid Abu Ali, for sharing a stage with Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief and 26/11 Mumbai terror attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan, Palestinian envoy to India Adnan Abu Al Haija said on Saturday.

"The Palestine government has told Ali that he was not anymore its envoy to Pakistan," Haija told PTI.

The top envoy said that Ali has been given couple of days to pack and return from Islamabad.

"We are supporting India in its fight against terrorism and because of that my government decided to directly call our Ambassador to go back home, not to be Palestine ambassador to Pakistan anymore," Haija told ANI.

Earlier in the day, Palestine expressed regret after India strongly condemned the Palestinian envoy's presence at a rally organised by Saeed in Pakistan's Rawalpindi on Friday.

"The Palestinian side has conveyed deep regrets over the incident and assured the Government of India that they are taking serious cognizance of their Ambassador's presence at this event," the Ministry of External Affairs said in a statement.

In a strongly worded demarche to the Palestinian government, India reminded them that Saeed is a UN-designated terrorist and the ambassador's association with the JuD chief is "unacceptable".

"Government of India has strongly conveyed to the Palestinian side that the Palestinian Ambassador in Pakistan's association with terrorist Hafiz Saeed, who is proscribed by the United Nations, at an event in Rawalpindi on 29.12.2017, is unacceptable," the statement read.

Palestine further assured that in view of its bilateral ties with New Delhi, it will not engage with terrorists who seek to destabilize India.

"They have said they will deal with this matter appropriately. It was also conveyed that Palestine highly values its relationship with India and stands with us in war against terrorism and will not engage with those who commit acts of terror against India," said the MEA.
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SSridhar wrote:After having seen it all over decades, I cannot but be cynical.
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You & me - Both!

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Will Pakistan "Run To" China, Saudia And Roos For Help :roll:

Pakistan struggles to thwart US advances
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan is struggling to thwart US advances amid speculations that Washington could unilaterally decide to take direct action against the alleged militants’ hideouts on the Pakistani side of the Afghan border, diplomatic sources said.Senior officials at the foreign ministry told The Nation that Pakistan was making efforts to stop the US from hurting Pakistan’s sovereignty.One official said: “They are very assertive and hardly ready to listen [to our point of view]. This is a very delicate situation. We are trying to placate them.”He added: “Pakistan of course will not allow the US military to land inside Pakistan and take action [against the militants] but at the same time we cannot afford to lock horns with the sole global power.” It seems that Pakistan has already approached the "Head Of The Two Holy Mosque" ( AKA Saudi Arabi) for help . And maybe, behind the scene, diplomatic steps are taken to appease Massa. Not to forget that unless, US finds a way, to supply its troops in Afghanistan, not using Pakistan, Pakistan will always have "that card to play" :mrgreen:
Another official said Pakistan was prepared to “cooperate” with the US except the joint operation proposal.“Their [the US] tone is threatening but we still hope good sense will prevail. The civil and the military leadership are not ready to tolerate direct US action inside Pakistan . We are hoping the US will not impose it, and if they do, we will decide the future line of action. We have faced drone attacks in the tribal areas but the possible landing of US forces will be a real test of our patience. Every effort is being made to avoid this situation,” he maintained. Pakistan cannot afford to "let go" / sacrifice their non-state actors . They will keep the pot boiling to ensure that an India - friendly regime in Afghanistan does not become a permanent thing :twisted:
This week, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said his country was prepared to work with Pakistan to defeat terrorist organisations.In an article published in the New York Times, he wrote: “That country [Afghanistan] cannot become a safe haven for terrorists, as it was, in the days before the September 11 attacks. Pakistan must contribute by combating terrorist groups on its own soil.”The secretary of state, who visited Pakistan in October, said Pakistan “must demonstrate its desire to partner with us .” To counter US pressure, Pakistan is becoming more closer to China, and sending feelers to Russia as well . ( The litmus test IMO will be the on-off , off on planned visit by Putin to Pakistan. Has not happened yet !)
Pakistan’s military said it had already done enough and it was the US and Afghanistan’s turn to “do more”.
Former interior minister Senator Rehman Malik said the money Pakistan received from the US was reimbursement for the support Pakistan provided to the coalition for its fight against al-Qaeda.“It is not aid but committed coalition support fund, which has been blocked many times by the US ,” he said. Obviously, US Taxpayers' money will be approved after due verification, specially if fictitious and padded bills are presented to them :twisted:
“Pakistan is still hosting millions of Afghan refugees, which is a direct burden. We should not ignore the unholy alliance of India and Afghanistan intelligence agencies. The anti-terror war needs a united effort not confrontation. The US must acknowledge our efforts,” he remarked. The days of Afghanistan being a "strategic backyard" of Pakistan are over . Pakistan cannot even now count on the support of the Pashtun tribals , who are up in arms against the Army operations in their lands, and Paki attempt to fence the artificial Durand Line, dividing their homeland !
International Affairs expert Huma Baqai For every anti India Abdul, there is a Paki Ayesha ready to mouth the same opinion said the Pakistani nation would not accept the US troops inside Pakistan .
Baqai said the US should come out of India’s influence and support Pakistan’s sincere efforts to curb terrorism
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Pakistan Invokes "The 1974 Pakistan- India Protocol On Visit To Religious Shrines " :roll:

Pakistan regrets non-issuance of Indian visas to Zaireen
Pakistan has regretted the last minute postponement and non-issuance of visas by India for the visit of 192 Pakistani Zaireen to participate in the Urs of Hazrat Khawaja Nizamuddin Aulia (RA) in Delhi, reported Radio Pakistan . Spokesperson of foreign office Dr Muhammad Faisal, in a statement today, said the visit was to take place under the provisions of the 1974 Pakistan-India Protocol on Visits to Religious Shrines and is a regular annual feature. A message has to be sent to Pakistan, that it cannot be "business as usual ". Anyway, the Umra route is always available. Hopefully, no visa problems on that sector :mrgreen:
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Falijee wrote:Pakistan Invokes "The 1974 Pakistan- India Protocol On Visit To Religious Shrines " :roll:

Pakistan regrets non-issuance of Indian visas to Zaireen
the visit was to take place under the provisions of the 1974 Pakistan-India Protocol on Visits to Religious Shrines and is a regular annual feature.
Getting is visa is a privilege and not a right. The role of any agreements between two nations only facilitate that privilege under which their citizens apply but are not guaranteed acceptance.
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