Understanding the US - Again

[Cybaru]

Five sisters seems like good advice. Too bad the Chinese can't take it!

[Mort Walker]

With a dad like that no wonder his son carries on with the widow of his older brother.

[Mort Walker]

Here’s another good resource:
https://www.dsca.mil/tags/india

Notice the limited FMS sales the Biden admin came in. GoI knows this admin is India hostile and holding back purchase of the P-8I & the MQ-9 hasn’t been approved by the US.

[Cybaru]

Here’s another good resource:
https://www.dsca.mil/tags/india

Notice the limited FMS sales the Biden admin came in. GoI knows this admin is India hostile and holding back purchase of the P-8I & the MQ-9 hasn’t been approved by the US.

Lol mort! Congress was notified about Mq9 sale. It is held back on our end of the CCS clearance stage.

[Cybaru]

With a dad like that no wonder his son carries on with the widow of his older brother.

I mean, I can make up stuff and say Trump is banging is daughter the way he touches her and the images show. Do we really want to be here? Let's focus on real differences.

[Mort Walker]

Your previous statement didn’t add value, and anyone can make up stuff, but president’s son did do what was said plus worse.

[Mort Walker]

Here’s another good resource:
https://www.dsca.mil/tags/india

Notice the limited FMS sales the Biden admin came in. GoI knows this admin is India hostile and holding back purchase of the P-8I & the MQ-9 hasn’t been approved by the US.

Lol mort! Congress was notified about Mq9 sale. It is held back on our end of the CCS clearance stage.

Congress was notified, but it’s still not approved by DoD. Then the use of ITAR to inhibit the sale of GE 404/414 engines.

GoI knows this admin & is reluctant to approve any large scale purchase from the US.

[Cybaru]

Your previous statement didn’t add value, and anyone can make up stuff, but president’s son did do what was said plus worse.

The presidents son is not up for elections is he?
Is he part of this administration?
Then how does it matter, who he is banging?

[Cybaru]

Lol mort! Congress was notified about Mq9 sale. It is held back on our end of the CCS clearance stage.

Congress was notified, but it’s still not approved by DoD. Then the use of ITAR to inhibit the sale of GE 404/414 engines.

GoI knows this admin & is reluctant to approve any large scale purchase from the US.

Let CCS clear it and if it doesn't come and gets dropped then you have a point. Till then the ball is in our court.

[Mort Walker]

The MQ-9 was approved by India MoD last May. US DoD would notify like it has with the 6 additional P-8Is (also awaiting CCS clearance) as seen on their website.

The Modi govt. will likely wait to see which admin comes to power in the US before making any large purchases.

[Cybaru]

The MQ-9 was approved by India MoD last May. US DoD would notify like it has with the 6 additional P-8Is (also awaiting CCS clearance) as seen on their website.

The Modi govt. will likely wait to see which admin comes to power in the US before making any large purchases.

Mort,
Okay, so you are also stating that CCS is holding us back with P8Is and not this admin.
MQ9 MOD clearance is early part of the process. Who really know when it clears all stages. I hear an assumption in your assertion.

[Mort Walker]

No. Neither the MQ-9s or P-8Is have been approved by the CCS. However, US DoD has put on notice the sale of 6 P-8Is back in April 2021. No similar notification was given for the MQ-9s because it requires approval from US Dept. of State which hasn't happened very quickly. Along similar lines, US Dept. of Commerce has not given ITAR approval for the sale of the GE 404/414 engines to India. The US is dragging their feet.

The behavior of the Biden admin has given pause to GoI to proceed further, and I doubt CCS will take either of these purchases up until US elections are over.

https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major- ... ed-support

FMS sales are only one part of the puzzle. The Biden admin is trying to set the clock back on India-US relations by 30 years using a number of irritants, but India of 2024 is not that of 1994.

[ramana]

Cybaru and Mort Knock it off.
Will give both of you a month off if you persist.

[sanman]

Trump may be inclined to pick Nikki Haley, in order to get himself more votes from her camp:



Nikki Haley is of course NeoCon warmonger, and NeoCons are hellbent on getting themselves into power using her as their sepoy.

[vijayk]

https://unherd.com/2024/01/the-american-crack-up/
The American Crack-Up
The nation remains blinded by a veil of madness

Imagine a time-traveller from any decade in recent memory arriving in America in January 2024: they would encounter a country that would appear to have gone nuts. Millions of migrants stream illegally into the US at the highest rates in history, while the government in Washington prohibits border states from enforcing Federal law. Meanwhile, major cities such as New York, Chicago and Los Angeles are routinely paralysed by angry demonstrators whose causes change from month to month (this month’s cause is “intifada”). Questions like “should doctors perform surgery on children to change their gender?” and “is it ok for the President of Harvard to routinely plagiarise the work of other authors?” are now seriously debated by reputable media outlets.

Americans now find themselves living in an oligarchy administered day-to-day by institutional bureaucracies that move in lock-step with each other, enforcing a set of ideologically-driven top-down imperatives that seemingly change from week-to-week and cover nearly every subject under the sun

Today, power flows from the top down, from a set of fantastically wealthy billionaires, to a national administrative class, and to a new layer of non-profit administrators, foundation executives and NGOs, which in turn employ a floating class of hundreds of thousands of grant-makers, organisers, case-workers and protesters who serve as the shock troops of the Democratic Party. In this role, they regiment the party’s identity-driven interest groups while receiving large amounts of funding from the billionaire class and the Federal government — thereby enabling the Party to serve as the broker between the oligarchs and the “disenfranchised” poor.

fter 2008, America’s rich continued to get wildly richer while the middle class lost ground, along with the poor. Unsurprisingly, income mobility has fallen radically, from 90% for children born in 1940 to less than 50% for children born in the Eighties. American life expectancy — perhaps the most basic gauge of how people are actually doing — is also experiencing a sharp decline, despite (or because of) the fact that America adopted a universal health care system more than a decade ago. What these grim statistics still fail to capture, though, is the feeling of utter, disorienting madness that pervades so many sectors of American life these days, from universities to corporate boardrooms to social media, where people seem to find themselves advocating causes which they are often at a loss to explain.

Barack Obama, like Bill Clinton before him, saw an opportunity to rubbish Republicans by making Democrats the party of the rich in the name of the poor. The policy of aligning the Democrats with the wealthiest Americans, while taking from the middle class and rewarding the poor with symbolic identity politics victories, was Obama’s creation — hardly a surprising coinage from a BLM-promoting Harvard Law School graduate who once told an intimate that the two things he wanted, as he left the White House, were a private jet and a valet. Obama’s continuing influence as a tone-setter for the Democratic Party, and within the Biden administration itself, should not be underestimated; there’s a reason why he became the first (healthy) former US President since George Washington who refused to retire to his farm (or the equivalent), instead keeping a large mansion in the heart of Washington.

Yet the unending stream of obvious policy failures that America’s elites have authored, both domestic and foreign – from the country’s immigration, income and education crises, to its failures in the Middle East and Ukraine — can hardly be blamed on old-fashioned bigots, of whom there are thankfully few in Washington. In reality, the identity-based vitriol of the country’s political, academic and media elites is not shared by most normal Americans — who actually have to live with each other on a daily basis. Which in turn suggests that the national obsession with race and group identity is a tool being employed from the top down, to fracture the possibility of democratic opposition to large concentrations of wealth and the rule of the bureaucrats.

In 2019, the last year for which statistics were available before the George Floyd riots, a total of 13 unarmed black men were killed by police throughout all of America, according to statistics compiled by the CIA-linked, oligarch-owned Washington Post. According to the Post, the number of unarmed, non-violent black men killed by white police officers in 2019 may have been as low as three, or as high as seven. No doubt both numbers are painfully high — but not nearly as high as the total of 7,300 black American homicide victims in 2019, the overwhelming majority of whom were killed by other black Americans, not to mention the thousands of white Americans killed by black Americans that same year. So perhaps America’s murder problem isn’t mainly the product of racism after all.

The cure for today’s American Crack-Up is to defuse the affair between our bureaucratic elites and a Big Tech oligarchy that is mediated by the diversity barons of the Democratic Party. The way to do that is to remove the legal protections that have allowed for Big Tech’s monopolies, and which killed off the independent American press, and then to curb the power of national elites by letting individual states make and enforce their own laws, as the US Constitution intended. Once the causes of the country’s current madness are removed, Americans may be able to see their own virtues and weaknesses plainly — and start acting like grown-ups again.

[vijayk]

Trump may be inclined to pick Nikki Haley, in order to get himself more votes from her camp:



Nikki Haley is of course NeoCon warmonger, and NeoCons are hellbent on getting themselves into power using her as their sepoy.

Her voters are neocon Republicans who wants wars and democrats (that too polarzied left wing democrats pumped up by media to defeat Trump in primaries which is preferable than defeating him thru judiciary which is more dangerous). These democrats will never vote for Trump. The neocon Republicans may vote for him or not regardless of Nikki

[AkshaySG]

You choose a VP to either gain or shore up a particular voter base that the you are lagging behind with and in that regards I don't think either Ramaswamy or Haley bring in any significant voters that Trump already has.. Not enough to tip the scales anyway.

I think he will end up choosing either a white woman like Elise Stefanik or Kristy Noem. The female suburban wote going to Biden in Midwest essentially cost him the election.

He is also far too egotistical and scared of anyone with personal power ambitions to choose someone who was a genuine rival in the presidential race imo.

[ricky_v]

a side bonus of the understanding us thread is that also allows one insight into the people living in the us; for example, we have members from the uk, they never have such passionate opinions on political parties, you dont see canadian members strongly come out and say that this party or that party is wrong, you dont see european members voicing strong like or dislike for a political person let alone an entity, you dont see pakistan-based members post, "wait, this horse cok doesnt look right", but the americans? uff, madonne! for them, the entire world is a stage, and they must perform constantly, histrionics, dramatics, tear-filled arguments, snark, cheap shots, name calling, all heckin' based and valid...

we have parties in india that operate on the same basis, but the members will look at it and sneer, and then they employ the same logic overseas, its insane, why? just because indian parties speak in dehati vernacular? that their propaganda is not polished and english-heavy? when this thread was something other than a dust-filled corpse being fingered every fortnight or so, even then the posts were on the same lines, its honestly embarrassing to watch and i never got it, is it something in the american water that makes people so over-expressive, is it because you have a large population of slave descendants amongst your populace, this one is a popular reasoning what makes americans so garrulous, i'll try to find the source

here's the upcoming political machinery that you guys can start preparing for to propagate in the future, with the quintessential american style debates, time stamp 0:42, note that this is published on a news channel, so it is valid content

[Santosh]

I was expecting Nikki to do much better after the anti-Trump candidates within Republican party bowed out in favor of her. But her 18% vote was boosted by Dems hoping to upset Trump in the primaries. This experiment will repeat in NH, altho much worse because NH seems very lenient with rules on who can vote in which primaries. Vivek has already endorsed Trump and Desantis' voter base is closer to Trump than Nikki. And Nikki doesn't bring much to the table. So IMO it would be either Vivek or Desantis for VP. Or someone like Stephanik who tore in to Ivy League presidents.

[sanman]

Her voters are neocon Republicans who wants wars and democrats (that too polarzied left wing democrats pumped up by media to defeat Trump in primaries which is preferable than defeating him thru judiciary which is more dangerous). These democrats will never vote for Trump. The neocon Republicans may vote for him or not regardless of Nikki

During the Iowa primary, there were Democrats temporarily registering as Republicans to vote in the primary against Trump (ie. vote for Nikki)
That's cheating as far as I'm concerned, and there needs to be some kind of minimum membership time before someone can be allowed to vote.

[williams]

I was expecting Nikki to do much better after the anti-Trump candidates within Republican party bowed out in favor of her. But her 18% vote was boosted by Dems hoping to upset Trump in the primaries. This experiment will repeat in NH, altho much worse because NH seems very lenient with rules on who can vote in which primaries. Vivek has already endorsed Trump and Desantis' voter base is closer to Trump than Nikki. And Nikki doesn't bring much to the table. So IMO it would be either Vivek or Desantis for VP. Or someone like Stephanik who tore in to Ivy League presidents.

It is hard for Nikki to do anything in this situation. Trump made some good move in his previous tenure to make sure the Supreme Court is loaded with conservative Judges. And that led to the reverse of Roe V. Wade. He has captured the while Evangelical votes. For the Republican primaries that is all you need. So I am betting Nikki will bow down after South Carolina.

Democrats should have convinced Biden to retire and should have choosen some one else. Unless Trump gets a conviction in one of the cases or if a miracle happens with interest rates and inflation, Biden is toast. I would simply say India should prepare for Trump second term already.

[Yagnasri]

I am not sure if Neo Cons per se have any vote base. They are basically parasites in both the party with doner class and MIC money support. So Nikki does not bring anything other than moneybags, etc, to the table. She may soften the opposition to DT from the deep state. But she may make the entire 2nd term of DT as useless as Biden. But DT's main USP is not going to a new war in his first term and so on. But he also gave great funding to the Pentagon. So other than people with too much greed, the MIC complex need not worry on account of funding from DT admin.

That being said, DT is all in one, and there will be no No.2 in his admin. He will make Nikki as another Kamala Harris.

[AkshaySG]

a side bonus of the understanding us thread is that also allows one insight into the people living in the us ...

You touch on several lines of thought that I have also had when viewing this thread or any other forums/discussions where Indians discuss American politics.

However I would like to provide a counter argument to some of the points .

1. The reason why we don't hear much from British and Canadian resident Indians (apart from the obvious point that there is just a lot more Indians in US as compared to the other two )is that politics in those countries has been much more dormant to the point where at times there has been no credible opposition. Labour has not been in power since 2010 and their last gov was a damp squib Gordon Brown while Stephen Harpers Conservative party was pretty tame by American conservative standards ... So there just isn't the hate ,chaos , outright hostility between the two main parties in Can,UK,Aus as opposed to US. Brexit has brought some of it back in UK and Canada is heading that way too , So I assume we will hear a lot more from those two pretty soon

2. The US federlism gives way more power to states and as a result way more differences arise between a conservative and liberal ruled state as compared to any of the 3 countries . Living in California vs Mississippi has 10x more constitutional and governing differences than Yorkshire vs London or Alberta vs Ontario .

3. From an Indian perspective as compared to UK,Can (primarily Punjab based ) the US got a much more diverse diaspora (huge numbers of Telugus,Tamils ,Gujjus and decent numbers from everywhere else ) that also shows up in the political parties and movements they get affiliate themselves with in America .

[vijayk]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pop-goes-t ... _lead_pos7
Pop Goes the DEI Bubble

Have we reached peak DEI? The unraveling of “diversity, equity and inclusion” initiatives had already begun—five states banning DEI programs; Google, Facebook and others cutting DEI staff; Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard—well before Harvard President Claudine Gay was demoted.

Author Christopher Rufo, echoing 1960s student activists, called the rise of DEI a “long march through the institutions”—a 50-plus-year ideology infiltration into universities, K-12 schools, government, media and corporations with the goal of telling us all how to live. That’s why I enjoy that the word “rot” is back in style to describe what is happening inside the walls of academia.

Like everything based on the writings of Karl Marx—seeing oppressors and colonial struggles everywhere—DEI was doomed to fail. The uniformity of thought known as intersectionality, fostered by DEI, meant all oppressed people must support all others who are oppressed. But that idea burst on Oct. 7 when Hamas raped, murdered and kidnapped Israelis. Many liberals, especially Jewish ones, couldn’t support genocidal “colonized” terrorists. Pop! The long march is in retreat.

By the way, ESG, or investing based on “environmental, social and governance” principles, peaked last June, when BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said he would stop using “the word ESG anymore, because it’s been entirely weaponized.” Never mind that performance of ESG funds has been sketchy and that BlackRock had been adding the label “sustainable” or “ESG” to funds and charging up to five times as much. Then a study published in December by Boston University’s Andrew King found “no reliable evidence for the proposed link between sustainability and financial performance.” Pop!

Most offensive to me was DEI’s devious underlying agenda: societal design. Blinded by fanatical devotion, activists were pawns for the cause of reshaping the world into a collective utopia to be run, of course, by progressive, self-identifying elites. That was the “my truth” that Ms. Gay invoked on her exit. Critical theories and Marxist techniques would take power from you and me, using big government as the enforcer.

The new societal design, embedded in DEI and ESG, envisioned idyllic communal progress. History shows this never works because power corrupts. Diversity meant ideological conformity. Equity meant discrimination. Inclusion meant blurring the sexes. Men winning women’s athletic events would be considered normal. It was all theatrics, like the tampons I’ve seen in men’s bathrooms on Ivy League campuses. Somewhere George Orwell is rolling on the floor laughing.

One goal of progressive societal design is to shrink—depopulation. Twenty-somethings now question having children. Net zero and degrowth, both World Economic Forum approved, are pushed via energy myths: carbon bad, cows bad. A plant-based chicken in every pot and two electric cars in every garage. They envy the merit-touting rich, shout “inequality” and wear “Tax the Rich” dresses. They tear down statues to erase history. How did we let this happen?

While Marxism is a means of gaining power to implement societal design, it quickly turns authoritarian. There was very little free speech at Harvard—the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression ranked it last of all colleges last year. Those against the societal-design agenda were shouted down. Dissent was met with accusations of privilege or cancellation. Conform or be cast out. On a larger scale, the Biden administration co-opted social media to censure opposing views.

I, like most Americans, am for diversity, but not when it’s forced or mandated. In a 2017 interview, Mr. Fink admitted BlackRock would use DEI tactics to “force behaviors” of corporations on “gender or race,” including via management compensation. Now that’s power.

This power inevitably leads to a march of intellectual corruption through institutions, which we’ve seen at Harvard, the Biden administration and elsewhere. Does national security adviser Jake Sullivan really care about equity or climate change? It polled well and put him back in power to implement his own societal design via “industrial strategy.”

The good news is that economics eventually outlasts the control freaks. Central planning loses. Real life is about markets that every day transmit trillions of price signals of human desires. Those prices inform production much better than any government bureaucrat or Harvard professor. Societal design—remember Lyndon B. Johnson’s Great Society?—requires government control. I’ll take freedom.

Preferred pronouns are fading. College admissions, and maybe hiring, based on race is illegal. DEI departments are being deconstructed. But while the DEI movement may have peaked, like that Monty Python character, it’s not dead yet. The feverish whining of those grasping for the last reins of power will probably get worse before DEI eventually dies with a whimper.

[Cybaru]

FEC records show that between January 1, 2023, and June 30, 2023, Donald Trump's Super PAC, SAVE AMERICA, made payments to the following law firms in these amounts:

https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/ ... =processed

BALLARD SPAHR LLP - $109,174.55

BEDELL, DITTMAR, DEVAULT, PILLANS & COXE, P.A. – $351,040.77

BINNALL LAW GROUP - $1,031,788.33

BLANCHE LAW - $353,090.03

BRAND WOODWARD LAW – 201,948.00

BRITO PLLC - $68,194.50

CADWALADER, WICKERSHAM, & TAFT LLP - $344,950.21

CONTINENTAL PLLC - $1,929,207.90

DHILLON LAW GROUP INC. - $734,730.8

EARTH & WATER LAW, LLC - $347,820

HABBA MADAIO & ASSOCIATES LLP - $1,503,915.14

IFRAH LAW PLLC - $720,009.28

FINDLING LAW FIRM - $541,456.25

KELLOGG, HANSEN, TODD, FIGEL & FREDERICK PLLC - $1,042,479

CHRIS KISE & ASSOCIATES, P.A. - $2,148,536.58

JOHN F. LAURO, P.A. - $183,859.03

JPROWLEY LAW PLLC - $35,161

LEVEL LAW LTD - $89,721.45

MCGLINCHEY STAFFORD - $290,179.17

MINTZ, LEVIN, COHN, FERRIS, GLOVSKY AND

POPEO, P.C.- $269,424.39

NECHELESLAW LLP - $465,231.34

PARLATORE LAW GROUP, LLP - $136,325.1

ROBERT & ROBERT, PLLC - $1,355,631.17

SECIL LAW PLLC - $191,980.35

SILVERMAN THOMPSON SLUTKIN & WHITE, LLC – $2,183,578.73

SQUIRE PATTON BOGGS (US) LLP – $193,750

TACOPINA, SEIGEL & DEOREO -$ 1,773,126

WEBER, CRABB & WEIN, P.A. - $193,050

Does that add to $20 million in legal fees? I hope they put rules around where money for elections can and cannot be used.


https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/2 ... s-00136984

A Miami Republican who endorsed Trump’s reelection has filed a bill for this year’s legislative session that could allow the state to hand out up to $5 million to the embattled Republican frontrunner for president. The legislation has already won the endorsement from Jimmy Patronis, the state’s Republican chief financial officer, who for months has been publicly calling for taxpayers to pay to defend Trump from criminal charges.

[ricky_v]

You touch on several lines of thought that I have also had when viewing this thread or any other forums/discussions where Indians discuss American politics.

However I would like to provide a counter argument to some of the points .

1. The reason why we don't hear much from British and Canadian resident Indians (apart from the obvious point that there is just a lot more Indians in US as compared to the other two )is that politics in those countries has been much more dormant to the point where at times there has been no credible opposition. Labour has not been in power since 2010 and their last gov was a damp squib Gordon Brown while Stephen Harpers Conservative party was pretty tame by American conservative standards ... So there just isn't the hate ,chaos , outright hostility between the two main parties in Can,UK,Aus as opposed to US. Brexit has brought some of it back in UK and Canada is heading that way too , So I assume we will hear a lot more from those two pretty soon

all your points are valid, but i would argue that the malaise of political discourse in america is something far more mundane and at the same time far more ugly, identity politics. This is the problem plaguing america as a country, in other countries, the discourse is around policies, i would say europe, other anglo countries not names america in this list; in us, it is as nuanced as red team good , blue team bad or vice versa, thus emboldened in their identity, the americans spread forth and spew opprobrium in every discourse, and its not that other countries have not taken cognisance of this nuisance emanating from the us, after the blm protests around the world following the floyd incident, it was a french minister i believe that went on to say that identity politics of the us is like a cancer in the world

mayhaps the members have not yet reflected where their level of discourse is when viewed from an indian political scene perspective, they are currently operating at the level of parties such as bsp, sp and rjd. these parties are seeped in identity politics, though here the identity is of caste so maybe the members look down upon it as backward nonsense, all the while preaching "stamp on gadha / hathi this election, netaji will take care of the rest" but english version

in all this, the common american public suffers, for eg, biden had a scheme of a 1T infrastructure bill, i dont know what happened, only that it never eventuated, or news that opening couple of public toilets in california cost the taxpayers a million dollars, and with all this red tap and crumbling infra, the americans then have the delusion to compare themselves to the chinese infra spend; no discussion on actual policies, only interest in proving that their side is right

last from me on this, i am no authority to issue morality certificates, just some observations on amercian indians while discussing us politics here and in the wider world

[vijayk]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/davos-turn ... lead_pos10

Davos Turns Gently to the Right
Global elites begin to grasp that statism doesn’t work and the world needs America.

https://archive.ph/IOVEh

[sanman]

Trump beat Nikki in New Hampshire

Hehe, I liked how Trump brought Ramaswamy on as his attack dog to tear into Nikki. Trump knows how to delegate.

[chetak]

[Cybaru]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article ... peech.html

Video in the article for those who want to hear it - Full on goonism...

Trump says about Nikki Haley

if she doesn't drop out, she'll end up under investigation for "stuff she doesn't want to talk about"

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1749984852659560829?s=20

[sanman]

Tucker and Rand Paul expose Nikki Haley

also discussed is the role of Fauci & Co in initiating the Wuhan research on Coronavirus which may have killed millions

[vera_k]

Posting link to current standings in the race to be the next President. Feel this is easier to track than 538 or similar.

US Presidential Election 2024 Winner Betting Odds

[sanman]

Is Trump hinting at Vivek for VP?

[Cybaru]

Some interesting stuff

Mitt Romney: “I think the border is a very important issue for Donald Trump. And the fact that he would communicate to Republican senators and congresspeople that he doesn't want us to solve the border problem because he wants to blame Biden for it is is really appalling."

MCCONNELL told a closed meeting of Senate Republicans Wed that the politics of the border has flipped for Rs and cast doubt on linking Ukraine and border.

“When we started this, the border united us and Ukraine divided us.”

“The politics on this have changed,” McConnell then told his GOP colleagues.

This is ALL about Trump.

McConnell referred to Trump as “the nominee” and noted the former president wants to run his 2024 campaign centered on immigration. And the GOP leader said, “We don’t want to do anything to undermine him.”

“We’re in a quandary,” McConnell added.

IMO, as always Republicans and Donald putting the country last and the party first!

[Cybaru]

Threats to drop out! Thuggery and MOB behavior! Nice stuff!

[Cybaru]

Donald Trump's former AG Bill Barr rips his former boss:

“He's a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country's… Our country can't be a therapy session for a troubled man like this."

[Pratyush]

1) Trump election or not is an internal issue for the USA. It has no bearings on India.

2) WRT, Trump and his character. What I have seen from the US political class over the last 30 plus years. Trump is quite refreshing.

The fact that he says the quite part loud. That is hilarious.

3) You can bring allegations of him raping someone 30 or 40 years ago. But as far as I am concerned, it cannot be proven one way or another. After all this time, it's her word against his. Actions of the democratic party right since the appointment of Clarance Thomas, has blunted sexual assault as an issue for me.

4) I am far more concerned about the actions of the USA WRT the rest of the world. Trump was the only US president in the last 30 years, who didn't start any wars. Proxy or otherwise.

[sanman]

1) Trump election or not is an internal issue for the USA. It has no bearings on India.

I think Trump was an exceptionally good president in relation to India. He made no noise when we removed 370.
American Left are increasingly snarling against Modi. Warmongers embedded with them have suddenly rehabilitated Pakistan in order to play more games at our expense.

[Cybaru]

1) Trump election or not is an internal issue for the USA. It has no bearings on India.

It's not about election, it's about character of the person and the results from it. Understanding him will allow us to understand our relationship with US. That is why I posted these. They will have a bearing on every engagement with him.

[AkshaySG]

Wrt Trump every sentence should end with "for now".. There is no ally /no person /no country he wouldn't do a 180 on if it guarantees him safety and popularity

If China is able to turn his head and promise him a few choice things I wouldn't be surprised to see him go against India the next day.

However the US election doesn't even matter 5% as much as our own tbh, If Modi and BJP secure a big majority then it doesn't matter if it's Trump or Biden in West Wing.

Also in my opinion Biden and his admin has been pretty tame on India relative to the rest of the Democratic party... Posters here were predicting some major push backs and big regression in IND-US relations post 2021 and yet it's mostly been par for the course