International Aerospace Discussion - Jan 2018

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Rakesh wrote: 22 Aug 2023 05:44 A potential first-of-its-kind fighter-jet purchase could be a sign Saudi Arabia isn't happy with what it's getting from the US
https://www.businessinsider.com/reports ... -us-2023-8
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This is more about Germany and little about USA.

India should also steer clear of projects where Germany is a partner.
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https://twitter.com/RyszardJonski/statu ... 74521?s=20 ---> The US State Department has approved the sale of 96 AH-64E #Apache attack helicopters to Poland. The sale amount can be up to $12 billion and also includes armaments: 1,844 x Hellfire, 460 x JAGM, 508 x Stinger MANPADS, 7,650 x APKWS-II. Until the ordered helicopters are delivered, the United States Army will make available to Poland an indefinite number of second-hand machines from Army resources.

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Rakesh wrote: 23 Aug 2023 17:56
NINETY FOUR??..

That's gotta be some sweetheart deal right or does US think it's worth the discount to have these machines at/near the Russian border

Considering 8 of them cost us a billion and two years to negotiate this certainly seems like a big get for the Polish.
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https://twitter.com/RealAirPower1/statu ... 95664?s=20 ---> Simply outstanding.

A French Dassault Rafale captured by the incredible mario_de_pian (on Instagram).

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Rafale: Dassault Aviation's three challenges for the end of the year
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-fi ... 74239.html
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Israel's Rafael said they had developed a hyper sonic missile interceptor, named Sky Sonic. Missile unveiled at Paris airshow June,2023. Got order worth 10 billion dollars(40 billion NIS). Not sure if it is domestic or export orders.

It can intercept hyper sonic missile upto the speed of Mach 10. This 2 stage missile uses hit to kill at 20 to 70 km altitude. Rafael uses the word revolutionary to describe the missile.
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So stealthy that it can't be found even after a crash...

F-35 Can’t Be Found After Pilot Ejected
The USMC F-35B may have traveled in a ‘zombie state’ after the pilot ejected, leaving its whereabouts unknown.

A strange situation is unfolding in South Carolina. An F-35B pilot ejected from their aircraft today around 2:00 PM local time in an area north of Joint-Base Charleston. The pilot landed under parachute in a Charleston neighborhood and is in stable condition, but the advanced stealth fighter they ejected from is nowhere to be found.

The F-35B originated from Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, a master F-35B base for the USMC. It was part of a two ship flight, with the other F-35B landing safely at MCAS Beaufort. There is no information on what led up to the ejection. Based on FAA data, the search for the aircraft is underway in the Lake Moultrie and Lake Marion areas, Senior Master Sergeant Heather Stanton from Joint Base Charleston told the press. But here's the kicker: the DoD is saying the F-35B was put on autopilot prior to the ejection.

While it sounds totally bizarre, fighter aircraft continuing on their way in a 'zombie state' for prolonged periods, and even coming to rest on the ground intact, long after their pilot left the cockpit, is not unheard of. The most famous instance of just such a situation was the "Cornfield Bomber," an F-106 that landed on its belly in one piece after its pilot punched out back in 1970.

A Soviet MiG-23 flew all the way from Poland to Belgium without its pilot after they ejected from the jet shortly after takeoff back in 1988.
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Manish_P wrote: 18 Sep 2023 11:40 So stealthy that it can't be found even after a crash...

F-35 Can’t Be Found After Pilot Ejected
The USMC F-35B may have traveled in a ‘zombie state’ after the pilot ejected, leaving its whereabouts unknown.

A strange situation is unfolding in South Carolina. An F-35B pilot ejected from their aircraft today around 2:00 PM local time in an area north of Joint-Base Charleston. The pilot landed under parachute in a Charleston neighborhood and is in stable condition, but the advanced stealth fighter they ejected from is nowhere to be found.

The F-35B originated from Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort, a master F-35B base for the USMC. It was part of a two ship flight, with the other F-35B landing safely at MCAS Beaufort. There is no information on what led up to the ejection. Based on FAA data, the search for the aircraft is underway in the Lake Moultrie and Lake Marion areas, Senior Master Sergeant Heather Stanton from Joint Base Charleston told the press. But here's the kicker: the DoD is saying the F-35B was put on autopilot prior to the ejection.

While it sounds totally bizarre, fighter aircraft continuing on their way in a 'zombie state' for prolonged periods, and even coming to rest on the ground intact, long after their pilot left the cockpit, is not unheard of. The most famous instance of just such a situation was the "Cornfield Bomber," an F-106 that landed on its belly in one piece after its pilot punched out back in 1970.

A Soviet MiG-23 flew all the way from Poland to Belgium without its pilot after they ejected from the jet shortly after takeoff back in 1988.
Joint Base Chareleston- "Help us find our missing stealth plane. " :(

Meanwhile, local Congresswoman Nancy Mace- "Now that I got that out of the way. How in the hell do you lose an F-35? How is there not a tracking device and we’re asking the public to what, find a jet and turn it in?" :shock:
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Mukesh.Kumar wrote: 18 Sep 2023 15:39
Manish_P wrote: 18 Sep 2023 11:40 So stealthy that it can't be found even after a crash...

F-35 Can’t Be Found After Pilot Ejected

Joint Base Chareleston- "Help us find our missing stealth plane. " :(

Meanwhile, local Congresswoman Nancy Mace- "Now that I got that out of the way. How in the hell do you lose an F-35? How is there not a tracking device and we’re asking the public to what, find a jet and turn it in?" :shock:
Surprising that the jet didn't show up on radar after ejection. I thought that would compromise the radar returns as well as the aerodynamics.
Probably the jet flew into the ocean. If so then they will need some time to locate it..
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https://x.com/SA_Defensa/status/1704463 ... 30712?s=20 ---> The Austrian Air Force has opted to select the KC/C-390 as the replacement for their C-130K fleet. The Austrians had been seeking a replacement for their 3 aging C-130Ks, with the options being between the American C-130J and Brazilian KC/C-390.

https://x.com/embraer/status/1704462574941843686?s=20 ---> Austrian Ministry of Defense selects the C-390 Millennium as its new military transport aircraft.

Austrian Ministry of Defense selects the C-390 Millennium as its new military transport aircraft
https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug ... t-aircraft
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“Blocked from F-35, Saudi Arabia Contemplates Acquisition of 100-200 Rafale Fighter Jets”
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/rafa ... rance-f35/
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Just in: I2U2- India, Israel, US, UAE announce new joint space venture; Will use space-based observation data and capabilities.

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Russia's 6th Generation MiG-41 Targets First Flight This Year..



Anticipation builds as the MiG-41, a groundbreaking aircraft possessing truly space capabilities, is set to make its maiden flight this year. That this superior machine is on the brink of being commissioned and is expected to join the ranks of the Russian Air Force within the next 2-3 years.

As per the insights from Russian journalists, the MiG-41 stands unparalleled in its class. The time is ripe for the MiG-41 to step into the limelight and replace the venerable yet still potent MiG-31.

Russian reports suggest that the MiG-41 will operate in near-space conditions, achieving speeds exceeding Mach 3. The aircraft is said to be capable of launching satellites into low orbits, intercepting hypersonic missiles, and performing various other feats. These bold assertions have led the US to dub the MiG-41 a “fantasy”. While it’s premature to definitively categorize the MiG-41 as either a figment of imagination or a bluff, there seems to be significant progress within the Russian PAK DP project.

The MiG-41 is classified as belonging to the 5++ and potentially even the 6th generation of aircraft. Its avionics are not solely designed for manned flights. Given the lack of necessity for a human to endure overloads, provision has been made for unmanned operation.

The apparent paradox of achieving near-hypersonic speeds while maintaining effective stealth technology remains an intriguing enigma. It is well-documented that upon reaching speeds of 3000 km/h, conventional stealth coatings tend to deteriorate rapidly, making the aircraft highly visible on radar. The subsequent repairs to restore stealth capabilities are predictably costly. This leaves one wondering how the design team was able to address this seemingly intractable issue.
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America Witnesses German Jet Fighter for the First Time

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OBh0U8XqREw
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France Budgets €11.7 Billion For Dassault Rafale Investments
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... nvestments
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Cyrano wrote: 21 Oct 2023 17:42 France Budgets €11.7 Billion For Dassault Rafale Investments
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... nvestments
19 Oct 2023
^^^ from the above article...
France continues to invest in its combat aircraft capabilities, particularly the Dassault Rafale, as the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) will not be operational until 2040-45.
FCAS will not be fully operational till the 2050s and this is as per the Dassault CEO, Eric Trappier.

So the Rafale has a very strong future. Dassault is right now working on F4 and there is already confirmed talks on F5 and subsequent variants. The French have no choice, but to keep the Rafale up to date. It is their only combat aircraft with a viable future.
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Interesting details on how Iron Dome works/behaves:

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Rakesh wrote: 06 Sep 2023 19:37 Rafale: Dassault Aviation's three challenges for the end of the year
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-fi ... 74239.html
05 Sept 2023
Rafale: The fighter that broke all records – How sales took off
https://www.naftemporiki.gr/finance/wor ... -poliseis/
05 Sept 2023
The Rafale "meets the needs of the armies that buy it, and the geopolitical situation is in France's favor because there are more countries that do not want to buy either American or Russian aircraft and thus accept the high-value French offer," the CEO said. French defense industry.
"We can clearly see that we have a 'Rafale hour' and what I can say is that this 'Rafale hour will last,'" Eric Trappier said.
In the short term, export sales of the Rafale will surpass those of the Mirage 2000 (286 aircraft sold). With the addition of 18 Rafale to Indonesia and 26 Rafale Marine to India, a total of 311 such aircraft will have been sold.
^^^The red bolded part is not corrrect.
Dassault Aviation still has several serious prospects in Colombia, Serbia, Iraq, Qatar and Egypt. The only drawback is that the French defense industry does not have the manpower (commercial, legal, etc.) to carry out many export campaigns in parallel.
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Thus undercutting Eurofighter Typhoon in the MRFA contest, which they were not going to win anyway...

UK and Sweden agree to cooperate on Gripen E international sales
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... onal-sales
17 Oct 2023
However, success in the international fighter market has been a struggle for the Gripen E after sales to Brazil. The market is dominated by the Lockheed Martin F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.
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Only the blurb below is available. Rest is behind a paywall.

Saudi Arabia ready to order 54 Rafale from Dassault Aviation
https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-fi ... 81123.html
22 Oct 2023
Thunderclap in the Middle Eastern sky. The Rafale, the flagship of French military aeronautics, is of interest to Saudi Arabia, which nevertheless traditionally sources its supplies from the United States (Boeing F-15) and from Great Britain (Tornado then Eurofighter, two combat aircraft designed within the framework of European cooperation with Germany, Italy and Spain). According to corroborating sources, Riyadh has officially asked Dassault Aviation to send it a costed proposal for the acquisition of 54 Rafale. The aircraft manufacturer has until November 10 to respond, we confirm to La Tribune Dimanche.
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Google translation of the article below is quite funny. The French are really proud of their Rafale.

Will the Dassault Aviation Rafale F4 really be sold in the amount of 54 units to Saudi Arabia?
https://www.avionslegendaires.net/2023/ ... -saoudite/
22 Oct 2023

Another article (from last year)...

The Dassault Aviation Rafale beats all its European and Russian competitors!
https://www.avionslegendaires.net/2022/ ... et-russes/
27 Oct 2022
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France maps out Rafale exports for Saudi, India, but future fighter tension with Germany lingers
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11/fra ... y-lingers/
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History repeats itself!

Dassault earlier walked out of the Euro consortium (which gave birth to the Eurofighter Typhoon) and created the Dassault Rafale.

Now Saab has walked out of the Tempest program. Never partner with the Britshits on anything!

https://x.com/GarethJennings3/status/17 ... 77206?s=20 ---> Sweden confirms that involvement in the Tempest is now officially dead. "We walked away from tri-lateral studies with UK and Italy about a year ago and launched a national study. I will not answer questions why it didn’t work with the UK and FCAS." - Official

https://x.com/GarethJennings3/status/17 ... 22538?s=20 ---> For those who think Europe can't support two next-gen fighter programmes, we may be about to get three! "It is not decided if we will build a system, develop a system with others, or acquire a system. We can say it will be done both nationally and with partners."
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^ Was expected.

They will simply buy American.

Surprising for a country which has turbofans building tech and experience.
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China's iSpace company does test flight of reusable methane-lox rocket:

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Ariane's SUSIE under development



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SpaceX will launch the Space Force's mysterious X-37B space plane on a Falcon Heavy rocket Dec. 7

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Chinese rocket startup lands rocket vertically:

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SpaceX starship launch in about 30 minutes. SpaceX tweeted "All systems go". Live launch:

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