Avarachan is a respected and old time member of the forum.
Please tone down the aggression and counter his viewpoints in a more civil tone, if you disagree with the gist of it. As a long standing member yourself, that is definitely expected of you. No more terms like BS etc.
I hope you get better, I hope its nothing serious?
About the KL exceptionalism part, let me point out what I mean.
For one, KL doesn't have only the co-existence types. It has a high proportion of evangelicals who are very toxic to "pagan" faiths. Second, as the recent example of the KL bishop shows, there is a strong organized network of "you scratch my back, I scratch your" organized groups India wide, who will do whatever possible to hold onto power.
IMHO, the RSS/BJP guys are absolutely right in terming it as a conspiracy to wipe out/convert native faiths who are antithetical to organized religion.
From day one, the entire left-organized religion nexus has gone overboard to do everything to bring down the current Govt.
Fake outrage, fake media reports et al. Hardly a day goes by when some effort by some organized group is not made to "vote against communal forces in 2019" etc is not made.
Many of these groups are arrogant beyond belief. They openly state that since the Constitution "allows" them to convert, they have every right to do so and will continue doing it, no matter how offensive it is to Hindus. When Hindus mention this, they are given screeds on how pathetic Hindus are, dalit, this, atrocity that. Any attempt by Hindus to rebut it aggressively in turn is shouted down via media etc & all sorts of NGOs get involved to legally attack individuals who speak up.
Second, the organized faith guys are very powerful and have done all it can to make its political views clear. Many of the guys involved again have KL backgrounds. We all know who is one of the biggest landowners in India & where a lot of the foreign funding goes.
Third, the rampant violence against RSS guys and the outrageous bigotry shown against Hindus is something outrageous. They routinely get murdered, cow heads get paraded in parades, again this sort of toxic behaviour is not par for the course anywhere else as riots occur or the administration is forced to get involved and arrest those engaging in such actions. Its amazing to see that even in states where there were INC administrations for a long time, these sort of political murders didn't occur as a normal course and such outrageous actions were relatively rare for the sort of provocation they represented was not taken lightly.
To any Hindu org from rest of India, these indicators clearly show the dice is loaded against them in KL & there is indeed a very organized network which can be pulled in against them.
Its very understandable that Hindus who are caught up in the exigencies of day to day living and have caste/local/personal networks to protect them from local/physical intimidation, feel insulated from all this, and ignore it. But at the macro level, its clear there is an issue. Any non KL guy can clearly see the "blinkers" on when the conversation turns to these aspects.
For instance, most of us grew up in similar climes with friends/even family members from other communities and religions. In that sense, there is nothing really exceptional about KL folks having similar backgrounds. I see some of you believe in this being unique to KL, it is not. Let me assure you that anyone who thinks this is unique to KL is mistaken. For people who grow up in several parts of the north or other states in the south, for instance, it is very common to have all sorts of other community folks co-located. Even more so, if you happen to work in some sort of Govt organization and have a Govt quarters or colony. It was so common to grow up with people from differing classes/backgrounds and most of us remain in touch. Its only that as we grow older, the tendency to accept "anything goes" reduces by a significant amount. There are multiple families with some 2-3 family members who are from different religions on account of marriage or even historical conversions or just because of the manner in which native faiths co-existed or shifted gears. Mixed Hindu/Sikh/Jain families for instance who also have Christian family members and in rarer cases, even Muslim ones and Parsis (by marriage).
Fourth, I don't think that it was merely some fear of British involvement that made our folks so indoctrinated and prevent discussion of any past history or the tendency of some political faiths to hijack societal mores for their parochial needs. IMHO, the truth is people like JLN and others who had a disproportionate power on our decision making, had a lot of inbuilt disdain for their fellow Hindus and native faith. It was the faith, of poor, superstitious and lower class people. Quite similar to how many middle class Indians today sneer at their hired help and their "antics". Temple going, faith in idols, all this was gauche and primitive. The time had come to ditch all this and move towards an enlightened sense of brotherhood away from all this primitivism, Marxism was the new messiah. After all capitalists were exploiters. Then there was the political aspect, wherein Indira struck a deal with the left to share power as long as they supported her, she was quite willing to pack the entire Govt apparatus with Marxists and Leftists. For these people, Hinduphobia is a way of life. Greek astrology is fascinating. Indian astrology is primitive superstition. Jesus is fact. Ram and Krishna are mythology. There is no common standard utilized.
All this stuff is par for the course amongst our so called decision making elite. And of course pandering to the worst excesses of organized faiths was another dogma borne out of a superiority complex, as if beggars giving coins to the elite who had the backing of the Vatican or the western Govt was something to pat themselves on the back about.
All this muddle headed thinking has done, is divide the communities with a lot of toxicity. After 2014, social media has only brought out a lot of contempt in the open. I am sorry to say this, but its incredibly rare for many folks to see Modi for what he is trying to achieve as versus through the lens of "their" religion. No matter what he does, he is abused in the filthiest of terms and Hindus by extension are name-called to an incredible degree. When countered, the response is, "oh, it wasn't meant for you Hindus, it was only for BJP/RSS/Modi/Hindutva". However, all these tricks are IMHO no longer passing muster. The bigotry and sense of superiority that has been inculcated by the conversion mills is now very obvious. Two examples about how rampant all this is: Nurses from north/central/north east India refusing to work in Hindu homes - "pictures of idols, not acceptable". A so called Nurse pointing to Uttarakhand earthquake and chortling "we were told about this in our gathering, this is what happens, all the temples have been destroyed". IMHO, Hindus by and large are very pacifist, and dare I say it, apathetic to an incredible degree. Yet, with such views openly aired and with social media making it very easy for folks to see what is exactly spoken at a "spiritual outreach" community gathering, the anger is now more and more taking a determined and stubborn form.
IMHO, RSS/BJP are just passive bystanders who often benefit from this widespread feeling of outrage, and this polarization will only continue until and unless those pushing conversions and the constant demonization of Hindus start taking a serious gander at the long term consequences of their behavior. What they don't seem to understand is that BJP/RSS are very centrist and grounded in a live and let live ethos. However more and more Hindus who are at the receiving end of minority exceptionalism, regard the BJP/RSS as just all talk, and no action. When more and more groups emerge outside the core BJP/RSS disciplined pantheon, then we really have an issue, they will really not give a darn for what 80 year old in Nagpur tells them about how to behave with dignity and decorum. Furthermore, doing what has been historically done, cracking down on Hindu groups while giving a free pass to the organized side, won't be acceptable either. People are no longer as docile and respectful of their "elite betters" as they once were. Social media itself shows how our intellectuals, our betters are now ridiculed when they seek to tell the lumpen how to behave.