Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby saip » 27 Mar 2019 02:44

ramana wrote:UBCN There is a tweet by a Paki expressing sorrow at a Thundarr being lynched by a trigger happy Chinese SAM (H16) Will link it.

FWIW:

https://twitter.com/AliKhatna/status/11 ... 75520?s=19


Sad news guys.
Our JF-17 was downed by our own surface-to-air missile system today in Multan.
LY-80 SAM(export variant of HQ-16) which we acquired recently from China proved to be fatal against ourselves.
Pilot lost his life.
May his soul rest in peace.
#OnThisDay

And appropriate cartoon
https://twitter.com/optivelocity/status ... 11232?s=19

Ramana, his profile says he is ex-muslim (and so wajblcutl) then also supports balochi freedom. So can we trust his tweet?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 27 Mar 2019 02:56

The mijjile might not know how to tell fliend flom fiend, but dont' they have any quasi-humanoids giving the LAUNCH order? What made them think there was a hostile a/c in the sky - and lock on to it before launching? Did they put Gen. Bandar-e-BananaKhata in charge of SAMs AND their radars? There is much more to this story, obviously. Even UBCN cannot come up with a consistent explanation. :eek:
The only explanation is that they used a Thundaar to simulate a Yindoos attack for SAM training, turning off the IFF or maybe broadcasting cricket commentary, Shoaib Chukhtar vs. Sehwag. The SAM was supposed to lock on, but not fire.
Gen. Bandar said:
Let's Test The Red Button and hit his middle shtump, Rafeeq! PHYRR!!!

BUT.. why close the airport? Did the Thundaar fall precisely on the airport? And why the gunshots?
This is pathetically thin. There MUST be a more colorful explanation involving Goats, Jarnails, Burkhas, F-16s and zam-zam cola. :mrgreen:
Aha! Here it is. duh! Should have been obvious!
The killer in the story is that the Thundaar pilot must have got the Mijjile Warning in his cockpit. But then why didn't he follow PAF procedure like in the F-16-with-MiG-on-tail incident, and IMMEDIATELY eject? And therein lies the rest of the story.
He did. The plane, hit by mijjile, fell on airfield. Or maybe the plane fell elsewhere and the mijjile fragments fell on the main concourse, killing a couple of Jarnails.
The pilot landed somewhere on the perimeter. pakis shot him as he came down, for target practice. Also following procedure. Q.E.D.
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Y I Patel » 27 Mar 2019 04:26

Babaji’s poetry, overflowing with Veer Ras. I am getting addicted.

I also feel bad about the impact of the poetry being lost because the targets can’t read...

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ramana » 27 Mar 2019 05:45

I take it as data.
Info is next step.
Assessed and corroborated is next.
Finally it becomes intelligence

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby williams » 27 Mar 2019 07:14

Mihir wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:If you go by this video the 1st fighter is crashing to earth as a Lawn Dart and 2nd fighter turns away after the hit and then a few seconds later the 2nd fighter is hit and is coming crashing to the ground. So Abhinandan got the f16 and turn around when the Amraam got him. Then there separation of a few km between the f16 and mig21

Where are you guys seeing two fighters crashing in the video? I see one that is crashing, and one that is circling slightly above it, leaving a brief contrail.

I am confused. Didn't the whole episode happen in the night?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Thakur_B » 27 Mar 2019 07:15

^^ no. Between 0900 to 1030 Hrs.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 27 Mar 2019 07:31

baloch freedom fighter tweets are way more trustworthy than isi paid 50centers.
do a test - say a huuuuge explosion took place in a sialkot ammo depot in a reply thread to someone in the media (they are heavily followed by isi info wing to flood with replies to any bad news)

30 mins from then, someone will post a video from a moving car, with ghazals playing, saying all is naarmal in sialkot and nothing happened to the dirty yindu lies. or someone will say he is having naashta in a dhaba right next to the ammo depot.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 27 Mar 2019 09:05

https://twitter.com/IAFsite/status/1110418494674350080

video of idf air strikes on gaza. at 0:29 a roof has a similar balakot type hole and no visible external damage.

various israel units at conclusion of their training, seem to undertake a long night hike to masada to get their berets
here a air defence batallion , the conscripts look to be in 18-20 yo band

https://twitter.com/IAFsite/status/1101940947355660288

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby MeshaVishwas » 27 Mar 2019 11:14

:rotfl:
Read the analysis on The Wire.
Apparently IAF does not know how to program the bombs to attack hill tops.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nash » 27 Mar 2019 11:42

https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 8238693376

Chowkidar Narendra Modi
‏Verified account @narendramodi

मेरे प्यारे देशवासियों,

आज सवेरे लगभग 11.45 - 12.00 बजे मैं एक महत्वपूर्ण संदेश लेकर आप के बीच आऊँगा।

I would be addressing the nation at around 11:45 AM - 12.00 noon with an important message.

Do watch the address on television, radio or social media.


May be we finally know something about it.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby disha » 27 Mar 2019 11:58

https://twitter.com/narendramodi/status ... 8238693376

Chowkidar Narendra Modi
‏Verified account @narendramodi

मेरे प्यारे देशवासियों,

आज सवेरे लगभग 11.45 - 12.00 बजे मैं एक महत्वपूर्ण संदेश लेकर आप के बीच आऊँगा।

I would be addressing the nation at around 11:45 AM - 12.00 noon with an important message.

Do watch the address on television, radio or social media.


I am log'ed in to follow this. Just one question I have right now. Do I run to the bank? Or Modi is going to announce that India has taken out all of Bakistani nukes?

On serious speculation, both Hafiz Suar and Masood Azhar have been very very very quiet since last 2-3 weeks. No bravado. Nothing. The news media went on and on about "proof of balakot", and bakistani airspace closure. But nothing more than that.
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby suryag » 27 Mar 2019 12:02

2000 demo????

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 27 Mar 2019 12:15

Sources telling ABP not related to Dawood and Masood Azhar

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby AdityaM » 27 Mar 2019 12:16

modi has collectively wasted billions of minutes. its past 12 now, and billion people are waiting for him to start

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby williams » 27 Mar 2019 12:17

It has to be national security. CCS met today.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby MeshaVishwas » 27 Mar 2019 12:22

suryag wrote:2000 demo????

:rotfl:
Good one

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 27 Mar 2019 12:23

Now its 24* 1 Billion Minutes, why the delay?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Dilbu » 27 Mar 2019 12:32

Did we pest-e-shaeed some one valuable?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby nits » 27 Mar 2019 12:35

time given was 11.45 and its close to 12:30 - 45 minutes of delay :(

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby arshyam » 27 Mar 2019 12:36

About to start now... watching WION live tv.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 27 Mar 2019 12:37

Modi annouces India tested an Asat weapon

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 27 Mar 2019 12:37

Maybe he meant Isloo Standard Time. Literally getting into the skin of the enemy. Otherwise its a collective 38 *1.3 bn~ 50 bn miniutes wasted

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby ryogi » 27 Mar 2019 12:38

Anti-satellite weapon tested!!
Jai Hind!

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby arshyam » 27 Mar 2019 12:38

ASAT test. Wonder why now...

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby williams » 27 Mar 2019 12:39

Mission Sakthi!

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby chandrasekaran » 27 Mar 2019 12:40

Obviously something should have happpened during or post Balakot. Perhaps Cheen tried some tricks ?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby williams » 27 Mar 2019 12:41

Did they shoot an enemy Satellite?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby arshyam » 27 Mar 2019 12:41

chandrasekaran wrote:Obviously something should have happpened during or post Balakot. Perhaps Cheen tried some tricks ?

Yeah, I think so too. But since he's announcing the test, hope he talks about the timing a bit. Otherwise will be spun as a political act timed for the elections..


EDIT: Quoted message for clarity
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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby arshyam » 27 Mar 2019 12:42

Not to mention the usual suspects complaining about space debris, etc...

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Cain Marko » 27 Mar 2019 12:43

ASAT test itself can't justify such an announcement. Can it?

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby arshyam » 27 Mar 2019 12:44

Anyway, hnair saar has started a new thread about this, let's move this discussion over there.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Mukesh.Kumar » 27 Mar 2019 12:44

X-Post from Missiles thread.

Mukesh.Kumar wrote:That's great news. Finally time to send a signal to Lizard.

Congratulations!!!!

Jingo khush hua :D :D :D



Great news, but why is the PM announcing this? What's the political significance of this? Amazing that it is, why should it come from the PM just before the elections?

P.S. Waiting for int'l mombatti crowd to start crowing about irresponsible arms race, space debris, armament of space, blah, blah. In 10,9, 8, 7, ......

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby mmasand » 27 Mar 2019 12:44

Totally unrelated, but 4 drones are up above Pindi, Faisalabad and Multan.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby disha » 27 Mar 2019 12:50

Cain Marko wrote:ASAT test itself can't justify such an announcement. Can it?


Game changer. Cheen cannot rattle "nukular" toy at India any more. Put it this way, if Cheen steps in to save Bakistan, it has to be prepared to go all the way.

We control the escalation ladder with Cheen and maybe - just maybe - our RLG INS based missile are more Arjun-chaap (precise like Arjun) than Cheen and that will send shiver down the cheeni generals in their mao suit!!

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 27 Mar 2019 13:05

11 raptors == i had this Akhandanand Tripathi aka Kaleen Bhaiya saying MC moment when he discovered "compounder" trying to kill him :shock:

https://www.news18.com/news/india/pakis ... _top_pos_3

New Delhi: A day after the Indian Air Force (IAF) carried out aerial strikes on a Jaish e-Mohammad (JeM) terrorist camp in Balakot, the Pakistani Air Force tried to carry out a similar attack against Indian military targets but failed to do so.

According to news agency ANI's report that quotes government sources, the Pakistani Air Force with its package of more than 20 planes, led by the Americn F-16s along with French Mirage-IIIs and Chinese JF-17, fired 11 H-4 1,000 kg bombs from a 50-km range inside their territory on February 27. The attack was made at military targets at three locations, but failed to hit any of them.


The H-4 bombs fired by the Mirage-IIIs of the Pakistan Air Force are classified as stand-off weapons which can be launched from a distance to aid in quicker evasive manoeuvres of jets that fire them. These bombs are similar to the Spice-2000 bombs used by the Indian Air Force in the Balakot strikes.


“These H-4s are not very accurate and missed their targets,” a government source was quoted as saying by ANI. The official added that in one of the attacks on an army camp in Jammu and Kashmir, the building was protected by a huge tree which managed to deflect the Pakistani bomb.
:eek:

According to the report, senior officers were present inside the campus when the attacks took place in Poonch and adjoining areas.A Board of Officers has been formed to analyse the remains of the Pakistani bombs and other debris from the explosion.

The government sources speaking on condition of anonymity to ANI, said that Pakistani jets missed the target because of the quick response of Indian jets. In haste, the H-4 bombs were let off thereby missing their intended targets.

The most advanced Pakistani fighter F-16s were used for launching the air-to-air missiles against Indian fighter jets, while the Mirage IIIs were used for launching air-to-ground missiles in the attacks.

It was during this aggression that Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman shot down an F-16 plane using his R-73 air-to-air missile fired from his MiG-21 plane.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 27 Mar 2019 14:34

sudeepj wrote:Video evidence of two fighters going down posted on DFI by the mod there..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta9vyYh ... e=youtu.be

Clearly shows two fighters going down.


At 1:15 secs you can see the 2nd fighter most probably Mig 21 Bison is also out of control and going down.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Lalmohan » 27 Mar 2019 14:43

the video of the 'F16 coming all the way down on fire' - i wonder if it is one of the jordanian f16's brought down by ISIS?
they had a captured jordanian pilot who they burned alive in a cage

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 27 Mar 2019 14:51

But then after Pakistan attempted to attack our senior officers we did nothing, we definitely have the rights to attack thier HQ's, no need to announce on radios but a few accurate 1000KG bombs should be given. We took great care to hit a non military target

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby Singha » 27 Mar 2019 14:59

Lalmohan wrote:the video of the 'F16 coming all the way down on fire' - i wonder if it is one of the jordanian f16's brought down by ISIS?
they had a captured jordanian pilot who they burned alive in a cage


the audio track if genuine is not arabic its some urdu/pashtu type words in the end.

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Re: Operation Balakot: News & Discussion

Postby rhytha » 27 Mar 2019 15:39

Baba in his cryptic tweet said ASH-HR-SBRHHR and wait for tommorow.

https://twitter.com/bababanaras/status/ ... 8509730817

BRF should start taking that handle seriously. There will be wrong tweets time and again to even out correct ones for balance, but we need to figure that which ones are to trust.


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