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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby uskumar » 18 May 2019 11:38

vimal wrote:
Koenraad Elst is correct, BJP is in the business of gathering Hindu vote on issues that affect Hindus. It is not the party of Hindus or Hindu cause.

All out dhimmi!

Sir one of my reasons for voting bjp is not that they would help Hindu causes, it is to ensure other parties understand that there is greater Hindu consciousness today than ever before. Look at Congress , they being a party of NGO had to shift position to support sabarimala issue. Party who used NGOs to run country has to pretend that it's President is shiv bhakti. That in itself is big deal for me.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 18 May 2019 12:03

People here expect a C-17 to make 9G fighter maneuvers, it will only crash. When building a nation it takes time, there are soo many levers and systems compromised.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby vimal » 18 May 2019 12:07

uskumar wrote:
vimal wrote:
Koenraad Elst is correct, BJP is in the business of gathering Hindu vote on issues that affect Hindus. It is not the party of Hindus or Hindu cause.

All out dhimmi!

Sir one of my reasons for voting bjp is not that they would help Hindu causes, it is to ensure other parties understand that there is greater Hindu consciousness today than ever before. Look at Congress , they being a party of NGO had to shift position to support sabarimala issue. Party who used NGOs to run country has to pretend that it's President is shiv bhakti. That in itself is big deal for me.


I’m amazed at how little it takes to pacify Hindus. Just a little photo-op stunt and we are happy that we’ve moved the needle to the right. Do we even realize that the needle was so far left that it’s basically not moved at all, just an illusion created for vote gathering.

Just in case you want to see the sabka saath sabka vikas model see this tweet from Abhinav Agarwal

"Central OBC scholarships: A Sorry Tale" – @Pranasutra
Scholarship per pre-matric student:
- OBC: ₹47
- minority: ₹1529
Scholarship per post-matric student:
- OBC: ₹1261
- minority: ₹6040
I'm all ears; do tell me again about that "sabka..." naara

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby pankajs » 18 May 2019 12:15

Its all right. We are like that only.

Jai Dimmi Mudi!


Psssss .... One can wake up someone who is asleep but is it possible to wake some one who pretends to be sleeping?
Pssssssssssssssss .... The above is not about that Dimmi Mudi.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby nandakumar » 18 May 2019 12:19

Kati wrote:1. Please forward the cartoons (especially of page-117 of this thread) to as many people as possible, preferably
in Bengal. I started with forwarding to a few people, and looks like it has been a great hit. However, mango people are aware of antics of Mumtaaz Begum, and are silently willing to teach her a lesson.

2. Here are some feedback from the ground level: The main problem of Mumtaaz Begum is that she is a megalomaniac, and wants to
grab 100% of the popular vote. In spite of her being erratic ("paaglee"), foul-mouthed, and lack of sophistication, she had done a commendable job in providing welfare in the rural area which stands out markedly from the situation under the Left Front rule.
This good work (projects like 'Kanya-shree') would have given her 60% popular rural vote anyway, but she , being a megalomaniac, wanted to grab the 100% of the popular vote. She wanted t project herself as the synonym of Bengal (sort of "Indira is India..."), and
this perhaps has become the start of her fall. In the last panchayat election her goonda gang (which once was under the LF) didn't allow
the opposition to place candidates in about 35% of the seats, and this has turned a large segment of the rural population against her.

3. What has miffed the people in Bengal, especially in large metros like Kolkata, Burdwan, Jalpaiguri, is that while she is calling names to NaMo, bad mouthing BJP left and right, yet BJP is restrained in its criticism against her. Just the other day, Mumtaaz Begum insulted
NaMo saysing that "if he couldn't take care of his own wife then how can he take care of the country?" A large chunk of the metro people think that BJP should pay her in the same coin by sludging her own personal past. .... And here the story gets a bit interesting which not many people are aware of.

4. TMC and Mumtaaz herself want to project that she is single, and gives her life to Bengal. (perhaps she wants to project that she is married to the cause of Bengal.) While being a student of Islamic history, she fell in love with a Muslim guy (some say her own classmate), and got married to her. Her converted name is truly "Mumtaaz Begum" (though jokingly people use this term to address her, not knowing her past, just to indicate her extra love for the minorities.) Ask taxi drivers around the neighborhood of Mominpur / Fanci Market area of Kolkata, and they would show the red-brick house of the muslim guy to whom Mumtaaz was married. Apparently, her "husband" dies due to sudden illness. This "marriage" was kept very secret, because she conceived a child before getting married. That child was put up for adoption. Who adopted that child? Her own brother. This adopted son of Mumtaaz' brother, i.e., now officially her nephew is none other than Abhishek Banerjee, TMC's number-2 person, and MP from Diamond Harbour seat. Mumtaaz moved heaven and hell to make sure that Abhishek got a cake walk in that seat. Abhishek is also the prez of Yuva TMC (the youth wing of TMC). Mumtaaz' right hand man Subrata Bakshi was entrusted with the job to make the "nephew" win by hook or by crook. Mango public think that BJP can easily go for a personal attack against Mumtaaz using her own past if she can rake up NaMo's wife issue.

5. After her "nephew" Abhishek got elected as the party MP, and became number-2 in the party leadership right behind Mumtaaz, she started pruning all top and senior leaders. Thus Mukul Roy was shown the door who once was the number-2, and used to be called TMC's moneybag. Other senior leaders like Shubhendu Adhikary ("badshah" of East Midnapur district), Gautam Deb (of north Bengal) etc saw their wings clipped by Abhishek Banerjee. There is a good amount of resentment within the party. Leaders like Soumitro Khan, Anupam Hazra have left the party, and now contesting with BJP tickets. If BJP manages to cross the 30% vote share then an avalanche of defection will start from TMC to BJP.

6. People are fed-up with the action replay of LF's goonda-raj under Mumtaaz' regime. They really hope that BJP can get about 12 to 15 seats to teach this paaglee a good lesson. (More seats are unlikely given the wide-spread rigging. However, people are confused why the state BJP is not filing cases in the courts against EC's inactions since rigging and intimidations are so rampant.)

This would sound credible if there are other nephews and nices and she favours only one of them to the exclusion of everyone else. Otherwise it is just partiality for one's own family- a common enough failing for most politicians.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby banrjeer » 18 May 2019 12:30

vimal wrote:
chetak wrote:sadhvi pragya was to have held a road show and a public meeting in the burhanpur area of the khandwa parliamentary constituency on friday.

Both events were called off at the last minute.

party leaders cited "health" issues.


Koenraad Elst is correct, BJP is in the business of gathering Hindu vote on issues that affect Hindus. It is not the party of Hindus or Hindu cause.

All out dhimmi!


if that was the case then they would not have rebuked her.

I think Elst is referring to the Advani era, the mandir was a stepping stone to unify some votes. The freedom to call Godse a patriot is similarly a "hindu issue" bur not a greater cause. mandir and Sabari are similar

Hindus have not tended to rally directly around a greater cause it has been an amalgam of symbolic issues like beef tallow in cartridges,

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Kati » 18 May 2019 12:45

^^^
@ nandakumar

Mumtaaz Begum has six brothers - all pretty much goondas, and the family runs a smooth mafia raj. She has many other nephews and nieces..... But only the Abhishek is the chosen one.

[A little bit about the mafia raj run by Mumtaaz Begum's brothers: They have usurped about 40 - 45 prime real-estate properties in Kalighat Temple area (where each kottah can runsinto crores) through muscle / intimidation from elderly couples and/or NRI families who have no one to look after the properties. One of the brothers, - Kartik is a well known local muscleman, and controls the local auto - taxi union. Two brothers started hotel business in Odisha as soon as Mumtaaz became CM. The reason she has been the most shrill voice against NaMo's DeMo is because the brothers lost cash worth about 25 crores.]

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby aylamrin » 18 May 2019 12:46

Kati wrote:4. TMC and Mumtaaz herself want to project that she is single, and gives her life to Bengal. (perhaps she wants to project that she is married to the cause of Bengal.) While being a student of Islamic history, she fell in love with a Muslim guy (some say her own classmate), and got married to her. Her converted name is truly "Mumtaaz Begum" (though jokingly people use this term to address her, not knowing her past, just to indicate her extra love for the minorities.) Ask taxi drivers around the neighborhood of Mominpur / Fanci Market area of Kolkata, and they would show the red-brick house of the muslim guy to whom Mumtaaz was married. Apparently, her "husband" dies due to sudden illness. This "marriage" was kept very secret, because she conceived a child before getting married. That child was put up for adoption. Who adopted that child? Her own brother. This adopted son of Mumtaaz' brother, i.e., now officially her nephew is none other than Abhishek Banerjee, TMC's number-2 person, and MP from Diamond Harbour seat. Mumtaaz moved heaven and hell to make sure that Abhishek got a cake walk in that seat. Abhishek is also the prez of Yuva TMC (the youth wing of TMC). Mumtaaz' right hand man Subrata Bakshi was entrusted with the job to make the "nephew" win by hook or by crook. Mango public think that BJP can easily go for a personal attack against Mumtaaz using her own past if she can rake up NaMo's wife issue.


According to the book by Dipak Ghosh, she was married to one advocate, Ranajit Ghosh, her neighbour. Everything else is fine.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby LakshmanPST » 18 May 2019 15:16

https://twitter.com/centerofright/statu ... 89344?s=19
It started from Indira Jaising asking who will be the Vacation Judge in SC, next go to SC on election process violation , the EC decisions, then leaks that decisions not unanimous , then doubt the ECI by Khan Mkt Mafia, then Letter by Lavasa - All even b4 the 7th phase done


https://twitter.com/centerofright/statu ... 04128?s=19
This is even before counting starts. The plan seems to be discredit the victory on 23rd May. These buggers can go to any extent to destroy institutions if things are not going their way.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 15:50

namo is spending the day meditating in kedarnath today in a small cave used by monks. will visit badrinath tomorrow.
being namo he also spent time discussing with officials about the local development plans.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby SriKumar » 18 May 2019 16:14

1. 'Development discussion .....'. Good augury I assume ...that he thinks he will be around to follow up on it.
2. Quite the contrast- NaMo in traditional dress befitting that area's culture whereas the support staff is in suit and boot, literally.

It must be quite cold even in May.

Added later: one can see patches of snow in the background, above left
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 16:33

Suyash Bharadwaj
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May 16

Consider the scenario of BJP getting more than 350 as same as Bangladesh beating England.
While BJP getting below 150 as Nepal beating England.
Are these 2 possible?
Yes that are, but it would happen like 1 out of 1000 to 10000 times.
Bottomline - Stop panic, wait for 23 May

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 16:33

Suyash Bharadwaj
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6h6 hours ago

Yogi on his own is getting atleast 40 additional seats, adding to Modi Wave 3.0 & media would have wanted a weak CM who would have struggled against Mahagathbandhan and surrendered to below 15 seats. That is why every other day media walas keep churning hate articles against him.


More Suyash Bharadwaj Retweeted The Emissary
Post Yogi, rapes, Eve teasing of Hindu women in demographically disturbed areas has gone down significantly. Goons who did hafta vasooli, rangdaari are behind bars or killed. There is peace and people are grateful, except ofcourse the criminals and media

Yogi is highly popular.
All credit of Modi Wave 3.0 goes to his strict, authoritative nature made sure all socialist schemes of BJP reached last Mile in 11 months & also ensured Gundaraj ends.
If there was another CM, BJP would have struggled to cross 15.
Now will cross 55+.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby pankajs » 18 May 2019 16:59

Khujli already ready with his excuse ...

https://indianexpress.com/elections/kej ... ys-sheila/
Kejriwal’s Muslim vote remark: People have right to vote for whichever party, says Sheila
On Friday, Kejriwal had told The Indian Express that the Muslim vote “shifted” to the Congress at the last minute during the Lok Sabha polls in the capital.

When asked how many seats he would get in the capital, where seven constituencies voted on May 12, Kejriwal said, “Let us see what happens. Actually, chunaav ke 48 ghante pehle tak saaton seat lag raha tha Aam Aadmi Party ko aayengi. Last moment pe complete Muslim vote got shifted to Congress. Last night, the night before election. We are trying to figure out ki hua kya hai. Poora ka poora Muslim vote jo hai woh Congress ko shift ho gaya. They are 12-13 per cent. (Until 48 hours before polling, it seemed like all seven seats will come to AAP. But at the last moment, the complete Muslim vote got shifted to Congress. We are trying to figure out what happened).”

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Mort Walker » 18 May 2019 17:06

If the INC would jettison the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty and allow internal party democracy, they would be a real opposition party. One that the country needs. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Supratik » 18 May 2019 17:22

A discussion on the WB situation.

https://youtu.be/D7ASoBXlyY0


INC for it to recover has to undergo 180 degree change. Just jettisoning the family and its coterie is not going to do. It has to revisit its core ideology. I am not sure that is possible.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Rudradev » 18 May 2019 17:30

Ship of Theseus.

If it jettisons La Famiglia and also fundamentally revises its core ideology.... then IS it INC anymore?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 18 May 2019 17:30

Round Sevyn.

Comin' this very Twenny-Nynth Day of Vaishakha.

Fifty-Nyne Places at da Altar.

Time for dat Knockout Punch. Da Undisputed Champion versus .....uhhhhhh....who ??

Main questions:

- Da Nawth: With BJP having likely picked up 22-23 seats already in the region, will HP+PB+Chandigarh (8 seats contested by saffron) help it power along to match the 29 seats from 2014 ?

- East UP/West BH: Will the great works and popularity of NaMo in and around da Holy City - dat Shining Jewel on da banks of Holy Ganjeez - power the BJP to a sweep in this belt ?

- WB: Will final nailz be driven into the TMC coffin ? Will dis coming day seal the decline and fall of Dee Dee over the next few years ?

- MP: Will the western Indore belt continue to deliver a strong clutch of seats ? Is Mamaji (Uncle Chou) on point with his A-game ?

O ye of little faith, place thy trust in Lawd Ram and Lawd Vishwanath. Dey be both on call at dis time of reckoning. Jus' don't dial da wrong numba.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ricky_v » 18 May 2019 17:48

Ha ha, if the trend of posing blacks as random gods continues, the above in lingo and all will bear fruition;cheers.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby chetak » 18 May 2019 18:05

Rudradev wrote:Ship of Theseus.

If it jettisons La Famiglia and also fundamentally revises its core ideology.... then IS it INC anymore?


INC is an international enterprise with powerful but shadowy stakeholders.

who do you think would be the replacement.

certainly no one dharmic or even nationalistic

waiting in the wings are long entrenched bif pasand ropers and rolers who have been specifically inserted and set up exactly like marionettes

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Rudradev » 18 May 2019 18:29

INC is the local face of the Shadow Quadrant, nothing more or less.

Thing is, if it gets rolled up, SQ will find another face. They've already been looking for others for a while now. Bill Clinton visited CBN, plus who knows whom else in AP/TG. Hillary visited Mamata in WB, DMK leadership in TN.

The question for us is: is it more beneficial to have myriad local pipsqueaks (Pappu, CBN, KCR, Jagan, Stalin, Mamata, Kejriwal ityadi) vying with each other and undercutting each other for the funds & favour bestowed by SQ? Or is it better to have one most-favoured and most credible minion stand out amongst them, for the SQ to select as a "best bet"?

I think the 1st option is better. Had there been one remotely credible character of national stature among the pipsqueaks who SQ could bet on to challenge Modi... we would right now be looking at a post-election Indian Summer that put the Arab Spring to shame. Regardless of the May 23rd results.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 18 May 2019 18:33

Even the die-hard hater Shekharagupta throwing in the towel in the nick of time:

https://theprint.in/opinion/akhilesh-yadav-mayawatis-biggest-challenge-in-up-transfer-of-votes/237051/

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby rahulm » 18 May 2019 18:49

Meanwhile, a little country called Australia, also went to the polls this weekend.

What’s interesting is the handful of channels Oz has, leftist media (they all are here ), opinion polls and the legal satta bazaar all predicted an ALP (Labor) win.

The Coalition’s bombshell triumph comes after repeated polls placed the ALP ahead of the Morrison Government, and the Prime Minister’s demise appeared assured.


An analysis of odds offered by Ladbrokes, Sportsbet and TAB reveals punters believe Mr Shorten is well on his way to winning government, installing Labor as short-priced favourites in 59 of the nation's 151 electorates.


The elites got it wrong. The people got it right.

The American media got it wrong with Trump, the Indian and western media got it wrong with NaMo and now the Aussie leftist elites got to wrong.

Just something before counting starts in India.

Scott Morrison clinches unlikely victory over Bill Shorten in bombshell election result

What the betting markets tell us about the seats set to fall on election night

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby ShyamSP » 18 May 2019 19:14

Mort Walker wrote:If the INC would jettison the Nehru/Gandhi dynasty and allow internal party democracy, they would be a real opposition party. One that the country needs. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.


There is no PVNR so it is better to let it die natural death. BJP should focus on cleaning up INC in the Hindi belt which they failed to do so. They should take services of CBN/KCR/Mamata.

Rudradev wrote:INC is the local face of the Shadow Quadrant, nothing more or less.

Thing is, if it gets rolled up, SQ will find another face. They've already been looking for others for a while now. Bill Clinton visited CBN, plus who knows whom else in AP/TG. Hillary visited Mamata in WB, DMK leadership in TN.

The question for us is: is it more beneficial to have myriad local pipsqueaks (Pappu, CBN, KCR, Jagan, Stalin, Mamata, Kejriwal ityadi) vying with each other and undercutting each other for the funds & favour bestowed by SQ? Or is it better to have one most-favoured and most credible minion stand out amongst them, for the SQ to select as a "best bet"?

I think the 1st option is better. Had there been one remotely credible character of national stature among the pipsqueaks who SQ could bet on to challenge Modi... we would right now be looking at a post-election Indian Summer that put the Arab Spring to shame. Regardless of the May 23rd results.


Bhumiputras are not trust worthy so they tried genetically produced offsprings by introducing alien (foreigner in American lingo) but it is not working. If Modi comes again SQ and INC will be over forever.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby CRamS » 18 May 2019 19:33

I guess its the race for TRP's but Rahul Shivshankar on TimesNow is analyzing polls taking pains to say its not an exit poll :-). These guys can't wait.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby SriKumar » 18 May 2019 19:43

KL Dubey wrote:Round Sevyn.

Comin' this very Twenny-Nynth Day of Vaishakha.

Fifty-Nyne Places at da Altar.
nt with his A-game ?

O ye of little faith, place thy trust in Lawd Ram and Lawd Vishwanath. Dey be both on call at dis time of reckoning. Jus' don't dial da wrong numba.
Yo yo yo....mah homie.
Da Modi mon did da meditashun in the Mahadev cave in Kedarnath. He's got da blessing from Shiva himself.

On a related note, hope yo predickshuns come true. Then it's all cool , mah homie.

But if they do not, then I'll ask the BRF gods, I mean ....mods, to change yo handle from KLDubey back to what it was: KLP Dubey (i.e. KLPD*), 'cose that's wot yo predicshuns will seem like. *KLPD- check urban dickshunary.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby rpartha » 18 May 2019 19:45

Hillary visited Jayalalitha at that time as the calculation at that time was, in case if BJP fails to get majority then someone close to them can become PM and Jaya is considered for that. Remember Cho speech in front of Modi and Advani 8n Chennai. So as usual US wanted to establish that connection...of course it can be for anything else too

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby komal » 18 May 2019 20:20

When will the first exit polls be released?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby KL Dubey » 18 May 2019 20:39

SriKumar wrote: Da Modi mon did da meditashun in the Mahadev cave in Kedarnath. He's got da blessing from Shiva himself.

On a related note, hope yo predickshuns come true. Then it's all cool , mah homie.

But if they do not, then I'll ask the BRF gods, I mean ....mods, to change yo handle from KLDubey back to what it was: KLP Dubey (i.e. KLPD*), 'cose that's wot yo predicshuns will seem like. *KLPD- check urban dickshunary.


All dat be gud with me, snoop. Jus' keepin' ma fingaz crossed fo' now. We figga out da rest layta. Bless you sah and you have a wundaful day.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Anujan » 18 May 2019 20:46

UlanBatori wrote:I have decided to see things from the perspective of RaGaji
Starting with this :((
Indian election: Voters struggle to warm to misfiring Gandhi

Defeat could end the political dynasty he represents, report Hugh Tomlinson and Saurabh Sharma


{Warning: that is the only sensible sentence in the f*rticle}


As an ugly Indian election campaign hit a new low, one man kept his dignity last week despite a maelstrom of fury and disgust. Rahul Gandhi, the opposition leader


Riiiigggghhhttt.

What about "Chowkidar chor hai" and "Everybody named modi is a thief". That is "keeping the dignity"?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby LakshmanPST » 18 May 2019 21:35

Alert:Something is cooking in EC/SC to delay or prevent counting or delay announcing results--Last ditch attempt by Cong/commie sleeper cells:))

https://twitter.com/rvaidya2000/status/ ... 55296?s=19

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 18 May 2019 21:46

Anujan wrote: That is "keeping the dignity"?

Ah! This is where the deep analytical abilities of UBCN shine. I too was a bit taken aback by this. But then the Leettal gray cells started clicking.

The article's heading says he has lost all credibility.
Then it says he kept his "dignity".

OK, Pop Pappu Quiz Time. If you have only ur Dignity left, what have u lost?

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Picklu » 18 May 2019 22:20

BJP is finding it heard to provide polling agents in all booths in WB, an indication of intimidation by TMC goons so that the previously agreed polling agents are backing out.

Have asked EC to relax the norm to find polling agents from outside the area within the same assembly seat.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Sicanta » 18 May 2019 22:21

LakshmanPST wrote:
Alert:Something is cooking in EC/SC to delay or prevent counting or delay announcing results--Last ditch attempt by Cong/commie sleeper cells:))

https://twitter.com/rvaidya2000/status/ ... 55296?s=19


If through SC route, I dont see how. What with recent attempts to malign/cow down the cj, I doubt he will play along.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 22:31

SC is a dead end for them after the #meetoo hit on CJI. Lavasa's show of dissent is a twitter talking point - not much traction beyond that.

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Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 22:32

komal wrote:When will the first exit polls be released?


tomorrow 6PM

but talk show howls will begin around 4pm as a pre-show thing....no exit poll can be released before 6PM though

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby pankajs » 18 May 2019 22:33

Very unlikely that SC will halt the process ... it might entertain petition/challenge that will be taken up after the full court assembles. Challenging elections at the seat level is anyways an old Indian tradition.

What I do feel will happen is #NotMyGovernment or #StoleElection kind of *uncivil* society kind of movement and a major media onslaught primarily in the foreign media to de-legitimize the Modi government. Anyone remembers the *Million Women march" or some such thing in DC when the Orange-head was elected?

Long-shot street *revolution* or subversive activity cannot be ruled out but Indians in general are not a very revolutionary bunch.
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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby CRamS » 18 May 2019 22:34

Guys, all this premature celebrations by some BJP stalwarts, over optimism etc is making me nervous. One only needs to recall Karnataka elections a year back when even on the day of counting BJP was leading at 120 odd, you had laddoos being distributed, only to see all that cheer dissipate just a few hours later when BJP fell short and Sonia Gandhi asked her JDS slaves to stake claim.

In one sense BJP has already 'won' to the extent that entire Lutyen Khan market gangsters are just hoping and praying Pappu touches the 100 mark or so in the hope then that BJP will fall short like in Karnataka, and then then Italian queen Sonia madam can line up all the salves to coronate her Pappu as PM. So BJP has to get absolute majority, but Pappu can become king with just 100. And this is supposed to be Khan market Lutyen view of democracy.

I have lost a lot of respect for that SOB KCR who after calling Pappu a joker is now falling at his feet in the hope that with Pappu as supreme leader, he (KCR) can be his side-kick as deputy. I also wonder if one his gurus, Chinna Jeer Swamy will dump KCR or not for the latter aligning with a dynasty that coined the "Hindu terror" phrase.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 22:36

Rudradev wrote:INC is the local face of the Shadow Quadrant, nothing more or less.

Thing is, if it gets rolled up, SQ will find another face. They've already been looking for others for a while now. Bill Clinton visited CBN, plus who knows whom else in AP/TG. Hillary visited Mamata in WB, DMK leadership in TN.

The question for us is: is it more beneficial to have myriad local pipsqueaks (Pappu, CBN, KCR, Jagan, Stalin, Mamata, Kejriwal ityadi) vying with each other and undercutting each other for the funds & favour bestowed by SQ? Or is it better to have one most-favoured and most credible minion stand out amongst them, for the SQ to select as a "best bet"?

I think the 1st option is better. Had there been one remotely credible character of national stature among the pipsqueaks who SQ could bet on to challenge Modi... we would right now be looking at a post-election Indian Summer that put the Arab Spring to shame. Regardless of the May 23rd results.


totally agree. anyways a lone leopard fighting a tiger has zero chance. a hybrid pack of hyenas, wolves, jackals and wild dogs may do better. if any alpha emerges from the baying pack to lead the legions so be it - may the most treacherous win - its win win for SQ to let the pack fight and see who can rule over the dung hill.

dogs and jackals to harass and bark and distract, wolves to run on the flanks and use their stamina, and hyenas with their lion sized bite to form a fighting line and advance.

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Re: 2019 General Elections News and Discussion

Postby Singha » 18 May 2019 22:41

>> but Indians in general are not a very revolutionary bunch.

neither are americans. good for sit-ins and talkathons and teetar commandogiri.
the only ones heavily armed and ready for a skirmish are the blood n soil types - the people who paraded in full battle dress in charlottesville.


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