Indranil wrote:I am asking this for the past 6 months. What is the need to import 110 fighters.
Everything you have said is accurate. But this is the plan as per the Chief. Why, is a mystery. My only guess is diversification and risk reduction. But even that does not make sense.
The economy is in the shitter. From which magic hat they are going to cough up the cash for this is a mystery. But the process is indeed moving forward. The Chief has said it, the Raksha Mantri has said it, the Defence Secretary has said it...even the Peons working in the MoD have said it.
While the process will move forward, I personally do not believe it will reach contract signature. The monetary value of the deal is just too much for India to cough up. That realization will dawn upon the decision makers, as the process moves along. At that point, the MoD will have some hard choices to make.
Air Force chief outlines plan to solve shortage of fighter squadrons
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05 October 2019
Dismissing rumours that India is buying 36 more Rafales from France, Bhadauria stated: “Our plan is for building 114 MRFA in the SP model. There is no separate plan for this (36 more Rafales)."
Now if you ask the Tier 1 industry experts on BRF, as to the why for 114 MRFA...this is what you will hear --->
1) Interoperability vis-à-vis the United States
2) Strategic Engagement vis-à-vis the United States
3) Bulwark against the marauding Chinese (thanks to the saving grace of the United States)
4) Teach India how to do mass production of cutting edge technology (gift from the United States)
5) Roll other sectors of the economy and job creation (you guessed it....thanks to the United States onlee!)
6) Downpayment to the US for jet engine tech (this point is harped on repeatedly on BRF, flogged like a horse!)*
*Remember Point #6 Indranil...OK?)
Basically 114 "American" MRFA will take the Indo-US relationship to that next mystical and erotic level. They are confident that the F-18 and F-21 are coming. After all, it is foolishness for India to tie herself to a nation (France) that got exhausted in the Libya campaign!
But...But...But...a counter to Point #6! The Tier 1 industry experts will pooh pooh the below as fake news onlee!
US-India co-development flop show forces new approach to DTTI
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27 October 2019
MoD and Pentagon officials have drawn lessons from the earlier DTTI failures. A key reason was that, in entering co-development projects, New Delhi and Washington had divergent motivations, with neither side focused on co-developing usable products.
An example is the co-development of “jet engine technology”, for which both sides constituted a joint working group (JWG) in 2015. On Thursday, Lord admitted that this had been suspended because, “We could not come to an understanding of what exportable technology would be useful to the Indians. And we did run into a challenge in terms of the US export control.”
In fact, there was little that India could ever contribute to this “co-development”, with US entities already masters of aero engine technologies, while Indian scientists and technologists were at an early stage of the learning curve, struggling to develop the Kaveri jet engine. What the Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) wanted was US solutions for unsolved technology challenges, such as high temperature alloys and single crystal blades for the “hot end” of the Kaveri.
Meanwhile, the American side expected that working with the DRDO would create a relationship that would lead to building US aero engines in India. US engine makers like Pratt & Whitney, or General Electric, would never part cheaply with intellectual property (IP) that had cost billions to develop over decades. Nor would Washington grant export control licences for critical engine technology. The best that could be hoped for was the transfer of manufacturing line blueprints for building engines in India. That would advantage American fighter vendors in on-going procurements of fighter aircraft for the Indian Air Force and Navy.
India’s MoD understood this would provide a controversial back door into India’s aircraft procurement cycle. New Delhi has also understood that US engine-makers are guided by commercial, not strategic, considerations. Although India remains a strategic partner, US defence industry, which resides in the private sector, would not hand over “hot end” technology to score a success in DTTI.