2021 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

[sudarshan]

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Thank you for the perspective and correction ji. No matter how many fake media images and reports I see and am disabused of, I still tend to fall for the next one. Rule of thumb - always cross-check. I did wonder why the numbers in the second pic didn't correspond to the number of tents in the first one, but swallowed down my skepticism thinking "different angle."

[Sachin]

Delhi-ites still not bothered? Talk about "land acquisition" for real estate.

A few colleagues of mine work out from Delhi/NCR region. As per them things are pretty much normal in Delhi city side. Nothing like non-availability of essential commodities or huge traffic blocks. So looks like there is also a foul play by the usual culprits - main stream media - to paint a larger than life picture of this protest. And I am sure GoI also would now have a better understanding of the ground situation and any action/in-action from their side seems to be based on some logical reasoning.

I think this forum is on a very different tangent than what the govt thinks.

Me too had got the PDF, but yet to make a detailed reading. But what is your thought on GoI plan? My gut feelings is that GoI does NOT want to alienate the Sikhs as a community, but will stick to its guns when it comes to the farm laws.

Second one can be from anywhere in the world. and not really that many people.

You are right; and to be frank even the local temple festivals in my home town brings in more people to a similar small area . The use of fake images etc is also showing that frustration has set in the 'farmer broker's ranks'. Their bluff is now being called, and perhaps they also know that violence (from their side) would discredit them further.

[sanjayc]

A few colleagues of mine work out from Delhi/NCR region. As per them things are pretty much normal in Delhi city side. Nothing like non-availability of essential commodities or huge traffic blocks. So looks like there is also a foul play by the usual culprits - main stream media - to paint a larger than life picture of this protest.

I live in Delhi. There is zero effect of these protests. Nobody in Delhi is giving a rat's ass. Daily life is completely normal.

[vimal]

If Delhi is affected then it’s Kejri’s bottom that’s going to be on fire. He will support from far but nobody wants a fire too close to home. All cynical politics of showmanship.

[SRajesh]

Given the level of violence seen in US will the instigators replicate the same in Delhi!!
My concern is if Trump is removed they could try an replicate same in Delhi on the 26th to force Modiji's hand
Soros/leftist/jihadi gang must be itching to cause mayhem and somehow create loss of life
I am sure powers-to-be have taken note of the violence(Mr Doval the smart cookie that he is and with Mr Jai and Shahji are keeping a close eye)

[madhu]

who is funding on this scale.

this is not an organic or even an indigenous protest for sure

COmmunist potty of india one of the funder. Who else ?
Some days back there was a news AIBEA supporting farmers. But no one asked what is the relation between Bank people and Farmers?
Do u guys know in karnataka all bank employees has to contribute 4% on gross this time for bankers pay settelment. Why so much huge money is rised? Where does it goes?

[IndraD]

what are lessons for India from US chaos?
One straight lesson is social media platforms like twitter/FB becoming Frankenstein monster , use of AI & targeted ads to influence voting pattern and use of SM to mute one side while glossing over the other.

[IndraD]

https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/violenc ... t-america/
Liberals lit the fire that burnt America: What India can learn from the Capitol Hill fiasco

In the USA, what we saw in the past few months could perhaps be considered as a prime example of the Left burning the country down to ashes and the worst face of radical democratic thought. With Donald Trump being the great disrupter in American politics, it did not really come as a surprise when ANTIFA, encouraged and egged on by the Liberal politicians and newsmen, proceeded to burn the country down.

While the apparent trigger was the death of George Floyd, and the merits of his death remain an issue for the USA to solve, the ultimate aim of the protests were extremely different. A disruptor had won, unseating the high and mighty cabal of the Left, and the people wanted blood.

For the Left, a democracy only works when their own people occupy the seat of power and the moment that momentum is disrupted, all bets are off. While ANTIFA thugs went around murdering Trump supporters, unleashing violence of the roads, rioting, looting stores and unleashing anarchy, the politicians and media persons not only pandered to the riotous mob, but also defended their unbridled violence.

So while Donald Trump wanted to ban ANTIFA, Left politicians and the media fanned the violence and even justified the carnage that was being left in the wake. With months of violence, what precipitated was the final break-down of patience and the result was for the world to see.

Once Trump supporters occupied Capitol Hill, the same politicians and media persons who were justifying ANTIFA violence, began to rue the death of democracy in America and how, the violence at Capitol Hill was the legacy of “fascist Trump”.

This phenomenon, however, did not occur in a vacuum. Truth be told, it has become the favoured tactic of the Left and the mainstream media. Their conduct has proved definitively that they are not averse towards violence, they are only opposed to it when their footsoldiers are the ones who have to suffer the consequences for the violence they themselves unleashed. In fact, I would go out on a limb and say that the Left wanted this.

When the Left unleashes violence, they are perfectly aware that violence is a two-way street. When people are pushed to a corner with months of carnage, the retaliation could possibly be brutal and imminent. For a cabal that seems to orchestrate large-scale violence, this possibility, this imminent possibility, was well evident. Therefore, it stands to reason that when the Left unleashes violence, part of their grand plan is to provoke a reaction so they can then paint their political opponents as the terrorists wanting to burn the country down when it was them who lit the fire.

There are important lessons that India can learn from this. The first and foremost being that anarchy on the streets will have consequences. When people see that a particular section of the country is allowed to hold cities at ransom, block highways and bring normal life to a halt because their demands haven’t been met and yet, no action is taken against them and they are allowed to run rampant, then other sections of society will also attempt the same.

It is only a matter of time before complete anarchy erupts if one section of society is constantly permitted to get away with holding cities at random. That is why it is so important that anarchy such as the farmer protests and Shaheen Bagh is not permitted to continue for long. Because it has debilitating effects on the health of a nation. If people come to believe that blocking highways is how one has his demands granted by policymakers, then voting and elections take a back seat.

When that happens, we do not have a democracy anymore. The Left should also be aware that actions have consequences. If they justify lawlessness and anarchy in the name of civil rights protests, it is only a matter of time before their opponents take the same route. And they may not like the results when that happens.

[Ambar]

India needs to be very very vigilant the next few months. Our enemies have always taken advantage in times of global turmoil , be it after the fall of Berlin wall and the first intifada in Palestine or after the fall of the Soviet Union or after 9/11 or 2008 when US was going through a transition of power. The increase in infiltration in Kashmir shows that unlike in the past Pakistan is not willing to wait until summer to push the canon fodder, and Xi Jinping's message to his armed forces that they need to be ready for war any second . We may have 2.5 front to deal with in the coming days where 0.5 front has already been active for over an year now.

[darshan]

Concerned people may need to step up their campaigns and support across the board. Whether that's supporting patriotic news outlets to engaging others to not allow 0.5 to succeed. One lesson learned from 2002 is riots being used to hamper bigger goals. While Modi and Shah have witnessed that fire and have learned all the lessons, citizens themselves should be prepared to handle any riots, be resourceful, and be vigilant to stay alive. There are many lessons still not learned from 2002 and Delhi riots.

[ManSingh]

I think this forum is on a very different tangent than what the govt thinks.

Me too had got the PDF, but yet to make a detailed reading. But what is your thought on GoI plan? My gut feelings is that GoI does NOT want to alienate the Sikhs as a community, but will stick to its guns when it comes to the farm laws.

I don't know for sure. I think the original response ( media calling them Khalistan/commies, ministers blaming China/Pakistan, fanboys on twitter ) could have silo-ed the government response and could limit the govt response to only an internal security angle.

If a resolution is close, this could be the ground work to break out from the straitjacket before communicating the amendments. If not, this could be initial ground work to build a conducive environment for talks and at the same time limit how far the government will back pedal. After all it is hard to be in a state of conflict with the govt if they are willing to talk.

I hope things work out/have already been worked out.

[vijayk]

Saw videos on whatsapp that farmers are leaving the site

[Neela]

Time magazine appreciates UP CM Yogi Adityanath government's work

What is TIme magazine? How reputed is it? Not heard of it ...sorry.

[Mukesh.Kumar]

Time magazine appreciates UP CM Yogi Adityanath government's work

What is TIme magazine? How reputed is it? Not heard of it ...sorry.

Must be from same group that makes Ghari Detergent Powder.

[darshan]

Chennai tense as Thowheed Jamaath members protest after their Pakistan-owned HQ was seized under Enemy Property Act
https://www.opindia.com/2021/01/chennai ... perty-act/
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According to the reports, the officers from Custodian of Enemy Property for India, Mumbai, accompanied by revenue authorities and local police, had arrived at Chennai to seal off the Thowheed Jamath headquarters, which is registered as the property of Pakistan under the Enemy Property Act 1968.

The Thowheed Jamaat, whose building is registered as the property of Pakistan, had received several notices from the state authorities for violating the Enemy Property Act. Following no action from their end, officers from Custodian of Enemy Property for India, Mumbai, accompanied by revenue authorities and local police, sealed the office on Wednesday.

Reportedly, the building was initially been granted to Abdul Rahman, the Vice President of TNTJ, for the purpose of running a lungi firm. However, Rahman has been using the building for serving as the headquarters of the TNTJ. In fact, Rahman only holds the power of attorney, since the actual property belongs to Tuba Khaleeli, who now lives in Pakistan.

After the Indo-Pak war of 1965, the Enemy Property Act was enacted in 1968, which regulates such properties and lists the custodian’s powers. Following the claims of heirs of Raja Mohammad Amir Mohammad Khan, on his properties across Uttar Pradesh and Uttarakhand, the Act was amended.
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[chetak]

Time magazine appreciates UP CM Yogi Adityanath government's work

What is TIme magazine? How reputed is it? Not heard of it ...sorry.

earlier WHO had praised yogi and now Time magazine has also recognised and praised yogi.

doesn't it make anyone wonder what's up with these guys

[darshan]

Vaccines? While chinese profit from their virus, Indians get to feel appreciated.

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/NiteshNRane/status/ ... 0548646913

nitesh rane @NiteshNRane
Kokan supports @narendramodiji s Farm Laws!!
Farmers came out in full strength in today’s tractor rally to show their support!!
Hope all the critics watch this before misleading the nation!!

@Dev_Fadnavis @ChDadaPatil @BJP4Maharashtra @BJP4India

[vimal]

https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

I was hoping that this protest keep running for a few more months. Would've helped by employing a lot of jobless youths.
As I said these are very very expensive to sustain; especially with pizzas and massage machines.
Also, there seem to be more cars than humans.

[Bart S]

https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

That is some tractor rally, not the main protest site.

[vijayk]

https://twitter.com/indiatoday/status/1 ... 3874292736

Looks like this idiotic protest ran its course.

Check the video. Few hundreds at most 1000 ... it's all over guys! don't sweat ...

That is some tractor rally, not the main protest site.

According to IndiaToday

@IndiaToday
Thousands of farmers protesting against the new agricultural laws took out a tractor march from protest sites on Delhi borders. Watch the stunning drone shots from the rally.
#Farmers #farmersprotest #tractors #tractorrally #farmlaws2020

[ManSingh]

That is some tractor rally, not the main protest site.

According to IndiaToday

@IndiaToday
Thousands of farmers protesting against the new agricultural laws took out a tractor march from protest sites on Delhi borders. Watch the stunning drone shots from the rally.
#Farmers #farmersprotest #tractors #tractorrally #farmlaws2020

If you are really interested, the rally is Jan 26th ( hopefully won't be needed ). This was a rehearsal where three different rallies ( from three different states ) converged onto KMP. You have posted one of those three rallies( rehearsal ).

[vimal]

https://thediplomat.com/2021/01/the-str ... ment-deal/

EU China mega deal. EU invests $140 billion a year into China. How much does India get?

Even more shocking is that China invests $120 billion into EU.

Just puts things in perspective about how far behind we are from the dragon.

[V_Raman]

We are behind by ~$14 Trillion in PPP - that is the plain truth...

https://www.investopedia.com/insights/w ... economies/

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[chetak]

According to IndiaToday

@IndiaToday
Thousands of farmers protesting against the new agricultural laws took out a tractor march from protest sites on Delhi borders. Watch the stunning drone shots from the rally.
#Farmers #farmersprotest #tractors #tractorrally #farmlaws2020

If you are really interested, the rally is Jan 26th ( hopefully won't be needed ). This was a rehearsal where three different rallies ( from three different states ) converged onto KMP. You have posted one of those three rallies( rehearsal ).

This is not a govt that walks back its legitimately passed laws

consultation simply does not mean that the govt MUST talk and AGREE only to special interest groups demands.

Consultations also means that the govt listens, accept fully or partially or REJECTS in toto any and all points made during such "consultations". This is an elected govt with a massive mandate given for a very specific purpose.

just because one calls for a meeting does not mean that one has to listen and agree to some entitled jokers determined to protect and insisting on legitimizing a life long sustained income stream and ensuring that such rights get passed on to their next generation(s) in perpetuity.

The rest of India gets a say too, no

Where are they represented and by whom

RTE was passed quietly and furtively and that has had/is having/will continue to have a devastating effect on the majority community.

the BIF led malevolent NAC was working on the "communal violence bill" when the entire edifice including the shabbily built minority house of cards came crashing down.

what was being attempted by the sardar and mafia led UPA "govt" was treason, no other word for it.

now there is a direct interference from entities like soros and others like him for Modi to contend with. It was the very same NGOs that ware pushing for the "communal violence bill"

It would have been like going back to the mughal and britshit rule where the privileged few ruled over the vast multitudes of docile, law abiding, hardworking, tax paying and foolishly divided dharmic and sheep like Hindus led by some latter day termites like gandhi and neverwho.

shaheenbagh was the trailer. A refined shaheenbagh with additional bells and whistles (lessons learned) has manifested with the intention to peak during the visit of boris johnson so as to garner the attention of the international press.

dhat teri, plan chaupat ho gayi

minority rights have been weaponized in India by the BIF, even though the very word "minority", its definition and the concept of "minority" remains unspecified in the Indian constitution is also a BIF ploy.

There are frenzied BIF interests at play here, desperate to keep India mired in it's long term colonially inspired great game plan of keeping the Hindus tied down and India poor. They all need the India market without the India competetion. They need all of Modi's reforms to be shelved as well as the ability of the Modi govt's ability to pass any more such laws and reforms damaged for good.

CAA was a devastating blow to them and UCC will be the annihilating kiss of death.

Personally, I think that there is a plan to try and resettle, at some point, all the roper refugees in India, no matter from where they come from.

Food is in abundance here, reasonable infrastructure including paid healthcare is available widely, and a foolish, manipulable Hindu population which will continue to cough up taxes to help resettle all the roper malcontents being driven out of their legitimate lebensraum. This may even be the prophesied ghazwa e hind in a modified form.

the gulfies/arabs are house cleaning, even as their oil is running out and revenues start to drop. They want all their malcontents out because soon, they will not have enough money to look after their own people. There is a reason, despite very strong criticism, why all the gulf countries, especially the "kingdoms" have refused to accept any roper refugees.

everyone is aware of what happens when malcontent "minorities" start to rampage and weaponize their tribal presence as well as their exclusive socio religious demands, as is happening in India, uk, france, and many other EU countries.

europe has just about had it with the massive invasion of military age males under the guise of "refugees" and the euros are very apprehensive of allowing further "contamination", just like the govts of canada, australia, europe, and the US are seeing the advantages of keeping these scum out.

brexit was largely about regaining britshit control over outside labor/migration being allowed a free run in the UK exclusively and forcibly controlled by laws made by the EU.

[Tanaji]

I think this forum is on a very different tangent than what the govt thinks.

Thanks ManSinghji for the link.

As you are aware this PMO is more hands on than others in the sense that it keeps more of a keen eye on its ministers (micromanage one wants to put it). That has been evident in the reports ever since BJP took office.... I think this may be a part of that effort.

Obviously PMO is involved given the sensitivity of the issue but is not involved in direct talks IMO. PM won’t come in until a solution is within reach as that is the last resort for various reasons.

Meanwhile, the eighth round is under way

https://indianexpress.com/article/india ... e-7136344/

[srin]

I think both sides are waiting for the other side to use force, to sway the public opinion to their side. The Govt has been smart, and has kept talking to them, waiting it out. I'm a bit nervous about 26th though.

[Sachin]

Meanwhile, the eighth round is under way

From certain main stream media which has been 100% AGAINST Modi & the BJP there seems to be a plan that central government would consent and give the rights to enforce the three laws to individual states. For example; Punjab CM's stance that the Act will not be enforced in Punjab would get legal validity. But on the other hand with BJP ruling many of the states now, the Act will be enforced in pretty much whole of India .

The Govt has been smart, and has kept talking to them, waiting it out. I'm a bit nervous about 26th though.

If the 'broker farmers' try any nasty trick on January 26th, I feel that public opinion would go completely against them. Their supporters would then be BIF, Naxal, Peacefool gangs only (who any way are with them from day one). And again my 'sources' in Delhi still say that life is 100% normal in the city and even suburbs like Noida.

Some days back there was a news AIBEA supporting farmers. But no one asked what is the relation between Bank people and Farmers?

AIBEA is 100% commie outfit/union with pretty much every chap below the rank of bank officer getting enrolled there. I know folks who have deliberately delayed their promotions so that they can remain in AIBEA and play politics.

[chetak]

Personally, one doesn't give a rats about whats happening in the US, but what happens if, some day, jack on crack and fu(kerberg decide to do the same to Modi

via@GrahamDavidA

"The nation is now in the surreal position of having a president whom Twitter deems too dangerous to send messages, but who still is commander in chief and controls the nuclear codes."

[Sachin]

Centre-farmers talks remain inconclusive; govt says it cannot and will not repeal farm laws
So today's chai biskoot session is already over. To be frank, I liked the way GoI is sticking to its guns. This could be perhaps knowing the people behind the scenes (BIF, Peacefools, Anti-CAA etc.) and what their next agenda items would be. And GoI is also very much sure that these protestors will also not go for wide spread violence etc. The protestors too seems to be in two minds when it comes to violence and arson (especially considering the behaviour of peacefool organisation during the anti-CAA protest).

[chetak]

Centre-farmers talks remain inconclusive; govt says it cannot and will not repeal farm laws
So today's chai biskoot session is already over. To be frank, I liked the way GoI is sticking to its guns. This could be perhaps knowing the people behind the scenes (BIF, Peacefools, Anti-CAA etc.) and what their next agenda items would be. And GoI is also very much sure that these protestors will also not go for wide spread violence etc. The protestors too seems to be in two minds when it comes to violence and arson (especially considering the behaviour of peacefool organisation during the anti-CAA protest).

these '"farmer" guys are mere pawns and if required, the ready made sacrificial cannon fodder.

if the govt agrees to this repeal of the farm laws, there will be a much larger and even more widespread protests to repeal the talaq law and the revocation of art 370/35A.

and that's only the beginning.

they are ultimately looking for proportional representation to undercut Modi's popularity and to permanently negate the much feared political and cultural awakening of the majority community.

there will be violence as their entire game plan hinges on it

[chetak]

cracks in the MVA

pappu's chamchas are becoming vocal

[darshan]

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[chetak]

Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

08 Jan 2021,
Sayantan Bera

Union Agri Minister said that in a democracy, laws which are passed by a Parliament can only be reviewed by the apex court and the govt will abide by its directions

The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear the case on 11 Jan

The meeting took place in a tense and rigid environment, said Kavitha Kuruganti, member of the All India Kisan Sangharsh Coordination Committee, and part of the 41-member farmer’s delegation which is negotiating with the government. “It is a sad day for democracy that in the middle of the talks an elected government is saying the matter be resolved through the Supreme Court," Kuruganti said.

“The court has already said farmers have a right to protest... and these laws are not just about constitutional validity but also about their implications for farmers. The unions have clearly said that whatever the court might order they are not going to budge until they secure a repeal," Kuruganti added.

Earlier the government had offered to significantly dilute the bills passed by the Parliament through amendments and create a committee to review the bills. Both offers were rejected by farmers. Farmer unions have said that if their demands are not met by 26 January, Republic Day, they will march with their tractors into the national capital.

Since 27 November, thousands of farmers have been protesting on national highways bordering Delhi asking the Centre to repeal the farm bills. With the stand-off continuing for a month and a half, crowds have been swelling at Tikri, Singhu, Ghazipur and Shahjahanpur—on Delhi’s border with Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. Since the protests at Delhi’s doorstep began, about 70 protestors have died in road accidents, by taking to suicide and after falling ill due to a harsh winter.

Farmers fear that by weakening state regulated markets and widening the role of private corporations, the reforms acts will dilute existing state purchase of food grains at support prices.

[ManSingh]

If you are really interested, the rally is Jan 26th ( hopefully won't be needed ). This was a rehearsal where three different rallies ( from three different states ) converged onto KMP. You have posted one of those three rallies( rehearsal ).

This is not a govt that walks back its legitimately passed laws

consultation simply does not mean that the govt MUST talk and AGREE only to special interest groups demands.

Consultations also means that the govt listens, accept fully or partially or REJECTS in toto any and all points made during such "consultations". This is an elected govt with a massive mandate given for a very specific purpose.

just because one calls for a meeting does not mean that one has to listen and agree to some entitled jokers determined to protect and insisting on legitimizing a life long sustained income stream and ensuring that such rights get passed on to their next generation(s) in perpetuity.

The rest of India gets a say too, no

Where are they represented and by whom

RTE was passed quietly and furtively and that has had/is having/will continue to have a devastating effect on the majority community.

the BIF led malevolent NAC was working on the "communal violence bill" when the entire edifice including the shabbily built minority house of cards came crashing down.

what was being attempted by the sardar and mafia led UPA "govt" was treason, no other word for it.

now there is a direct interference from entities like soros and others like him for Modi to contend with. It was the very same NGOs that ware pushing for the "communal violence bill"

It would have been like going back to the mughal and britshit rule where the privileged few ruled over the vast multitudes of docile, law abiding, hardworking, tax paying and foolishly divided dharmic and sheep like Hindus led by some latter day termites like gandhi and neverwho.

shaheenbagh was the trailer. A refined shaheenbagh with additional bells and whistles (lessons learned) has manifested with the intention to peak during the visit of boris johnson so as to garner the attention of the international press.

dhat teri, plan chaupat ho gayi

minority rights have been weaponized in India by the BIF, even though the very word "minority", its definition and the concept of "minority" remains unspecified in the Indian constitution is also a BIF ploy.

There are frenzied BIF interests at play here, desperate to keep India mired in it's long term colonially inspired great game plan of keeping the Hindus tied down and India poor. They all need the India market without the India competetion. They need all of Modi's reforms to be shelved as well as the ability of the Modi govt's ability to pass any more such laws and reforms damaged for good.

CAA was a devastating blow to them and UCC will be the annihilating kiss of death.

Personally, I think that there is a plan to try and resettle, at some point, all the roper refugees in India, no matter from where they come from.

Food is in abundance here, reasonable infrastructure including paid healthcare is available widely, and a foolish, manipulable Hindu population which will continue to cough up taxes to help resettle all the roper malcontents being driven out of their legitimate lebensraum. This may even be the prophesied ghazwa e hind in a modified form.

the gulfies/arabs are house cleaning, even as their oil is running out and revenues start to drop. They want all their malcontents out because soon, they will not have enough money to look after their own people. There is a reason, despite very strong criticism, why all the gulf countries, especially the "kingdoms" have refused to accept any roper refugees.

everyone is aware of what happens when malcontent "minorities" start to rampage and weaponize their tribal presence as well as their exclusive socio religious demands, as is happening in India, uk, france, and many other EU countries.

europe has just about had it with the massive invasion of military age males under the guise of "refugees" and the euros are very apprehensive of allowing further "contamination", just like the govts of canada, australia, europe, and the US are seeing the advantages of keeping these scum out.

brexit was largely about regaining britshit control over outside labor/migration being allowed a free run in the UK exclusively and forcibly controlled by laws made by the EU.

Not sure how to respond. You have literally linked farm laws to every issue ( CAA, NAC, RTE, BIF, communal violence bill ).

For the other part, there is no guaranteed income stream even if the laws are repealed. Crops still need to be sown and meet FCI criteria for money to be paid. Farming is a hard and laborious job and not everything produced is procured under MSP.
https://fci.gov.in/app/webroot/upload/Q ... manual.pdf

For the representation part: For good or bad, central governments ( not just NDA ), have consolidated power and taken on a lot of policy making than their domain at the expense of states. Usually it is a good idea given the competence level and agenda of state governments. The drawback is that every conflict must be resolved at the highest levels. The opposition mainly exists to make noise and is unable to perform it's role of checks and balances.

Here is what the good guys have to say ( besides advocating for these laws ):

https://indianexpress.com/article/expla ... s-6618594/

But he cautions that sometimes good ideas/laws fail because of bad implementation.

Just to cite an example, late Arun Jaitley had announced a scheme called TOP (tomatoes, onions and potatoes) to stabilise the prices of these farm products through processing and storage. He also allocated Rs 500 crore for it. The scheme was entrusted to the Ministry of Food Processing for implementation.

But even after three years of the scheme, not even 5 per cent of the money promised has been spent. No wonder, the government is back to export bans of onions, fearing a spike in onion prices.

This is contrary to the signal that the government wants to give through the farm bills that farmers have the freedom to sell.

Another good read( on policy making ) which I defer this current impasse to:
https://indianexpress.com/article/expla ... s-6605572/

[ManSingh]

Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

Govt banks on Supreme Court as talks with farmers fail to make headway

08 Jan 2021,
Sayantan Bera

Union Agri Minister said that in a democracy, laws which are passed by a Parliament can only be reviewed by the apex court and the govt will abide by its directions

The Supreme Court is scheduled to hear the case on 11 Jan

The meeting took place in a tense and rigid environment, said Kavitha Kuruganti, member of the All India Kisan Sangharsh Coordination Committee, and part of the 41-member farmer’s delegation which is negotiating with the government. “It is a sad day for democracy that in the middle of the talks an elected government is saying the matter be resolved through the Supreme Court," Kuruganti said.

“The court has already said farmers have a right to protest... and these laws are not just about constitutional validity but also about their implications for farmers. The unions have clearly said that whatever the court might order they are not going to budge until they secure a repeal," Kuruganti added.

Earlier the government had offered to significantly dilute the bills passed by the Parliament through amendments and create a committee to review the bills. Both offers were rejected by farmers. Farmer unions have said that if their demands are not met by 26 January, Republic Day, they will march with their tractors into the national capital.

Since 27 November, thousands of farmers have been protesting on national highways bordering Delhi asking the Centre to repeal the farm bills. With the stand-off continuing for a month and a half, crowds have been swelling at Tikri, Singhu, Ghazipur and Shahjahanpur—on Delhi’s border with Haryana, Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan. Since the protests at Delhi’s doorstep began, about 70 protestors have died in road accidents, by taking to suicide and after falling ill due to a harsh winter.

Farmers fear that by weakening state regulated markets and widening the role of private corporations, the reforms acts will dilute existing state purchase of food grains at support prices.

I haven't seen this viewpoint in other papers. But this is another self-goal, if true. It's suggesting one branch of government ( judiciary ) superior to the other ( legislature ).

[RajeevK]

I haven't seen this viewpoint in other papers. But this is another self-goal, if true. It's suggesting one branch of government ( judiciary ) superior to the other ( legislature ).

The farmers (of a few states) want to repeal the farm laws. The government does not want to, as they feel the laws going to benefit the farmers.
I feel it is just an opinion expressed by a section of the press. I don't think the agitating farmers would like to go to the court anyway, as they only want to discuss stuff other than the content of the farm laws.

[chetak]

@ManSingh ji,

the aazadis funded by the BIF earlier tried for the repeal of the CAA and when that fizzled out, they moved on to the farm bills in the second iteration.

In this process, their deep hatred for the Hindus and the idea of India spilled out in all its malevolent manifestations. The hotheaded among them unwittingly spoke their hearts out and the truth of what was being insidiously pushed in urdu media and madrasas since even before independence was disgorged by the faithfools and it was out of the bag.This surprised a lot of center treading sickular fools among the Hindus because this genie will not be put back into the bottle again.

afzal was hurriedly executed by the congis as was kasab but how many jihadi protestors actually know that or even care

the "farmers" have so far rejected every overture of the govt on the farm laws but have insisted on their total repeal. They have no wiggle room and neither have they left the govt any elbow room.

If the govt gives in, it is the beginning of the end. Huge paki/gulf funded protests against the CAA, art 370/35A and talaq will follow in very quick succession.

These "farmer" guys do not represent ANY farmers or even have the farmer's interests at heart. they are being paid in kind for doing the bidding of middlemen and many punjab politicos.

[vijayk]

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Mr. Rakesh tikait. This was ur view on Farm law when it was passed