Sure, ramana. Will do so.
Hope there are so many Chinese watchers here who can also contribute to such a list.
Sure, ramana. Will do so.
still relies on hynix memory chips from SK.. and presumably uses a more expensive method of "stacking" compared to more advanced techniques from ASML.Gurus can explain better.tandav wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023 23:48 In related NEWS
SMIC manufactures advanced Chips for Huawai despite US Sanctions
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/tech ... index.html
I think SKHynix has a couple of fabs in China. But all these people gaurd their IP much more zeal (actually even parfanoid to the extreme) than the US companies. US companies themselves are extremely secretive but they are not at the level of the leaks being "a national security risk".
What nonsense is that? China's urbanization rate stands at ~65%, and the tertiary education enrollment rate is ~60%. The issue in China right now isn't that there are too few qualified workers, it's that there are too many. Considering even Japan's tertiary education enrollment rate is only ~65%, China is producing too many college grads for its stage of economic development currently. Worse yet, Chinese youth are too used to the old ways of college grad = cushy white collar job in a big city that they're not willing to become baristas or waiters like many Westerners or move to smaller cities or god forbid rural areas to look for jobs.Leonard wrote: ↑12 Sep 2023 01:35 The glittering Chinese growth stat's published world over -- might have pulled the WOOL over "most" of the Western CABAL/Elite ...
The real story is actually what happens in the rural areas ..
What is the level of education, health care, food security, etc etc ..
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/bo ... 44815.html
Some excerpts ...
China’s growth has relied heavily on unskilled labor. Most of the workers who have fueled the country’s rise come from rural villages and have never been to high school. While this national growth strategy has been effective for three decades, the unskilled wage rate is finally rising, inducing companies inside China to automate at an unprecedented rate and triggering an exodus of companies seeking cheaper labor in other countries.
Ten years ago, almost every product for sale in an American Walmart was made in China. Today, that is no longer the case. With the changing demand for labor, China seems to have no good back-up plan. For all of its investment in physical infrastructure, for decades China failed to invest enough in its people. Recent progress may come too late. Drawing on extensive surveys on the ground in China, Rozelle and Hell reveal that while China may be the second-largest economy in the world, its labor force has one of the lowest levels of education of any comparable country. Over half of China’s population—as well as a vast majority of its children—are from rural areas. Their low levels of basic education may leave many unable to find work in the formal workplace as China’s economy changes and manufacturing jobs move elsewhere.
In Invisible China, Rozelle and Hell speak not only to an urgent humanitarian concern but also a potential economic crisis that could upend economies and foreign relations around the globe. If too many are left structurally unemployable, the implications both inside and outside of China could be serious. Understanding the situation in China today is essential if we are to avoid a potential crisis of international proportions.
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Ramana
Here are my thoughts on Condi Rice speech -
Context analysis: This is a talk at Hoover Institute where Rice is giving a lecture to bunch of (foreign relations) students. So she is acting like some teacher to them.
Key lesson topics:
Big power dynamics, expected behaviors
- Big power is someone who can bring the might of economic, technological and military to impose their worldview on others
- A big power must be able to address multiple challenges at the same time. You ain’t a big power if you can handle only one challenge at a time.
- A big power, by definition, must (be able to) impose its ideas and interests on others and make others to accept them
The big powers right now
- USA: got distracted for past decade+ but nothing that cannot be repaired
- China: is a big power. Before Xi, China was not playing at its weight despite US asking it but it is now doing it opposing USA
- Russia: is a declining big power.
Russia:
- Condi calls Putin as dictator but appreciates his pain of fall of SU leaving 25 million Russians as orphans
- Condi thinks team Putin is bunch of idiots (possible)
- Condi thinks Putin vision for Russia is flawed (Russian empire)
While Condi’s definition of US baseline is democracy and capitalism - she doesn’t think/accept Russia as democratic and capitalist.
China
Condi is still thinks China can be accommodated in the world order because China is capitalist even though not democratic
USA
No one asked how come the democratic US is the one who started so many wars? If world is a democratic place; shouldn’t all nations get equal vote/say within the world democracy?
Others - EU
EU is loser in this whole game
Others - India
India has potential. Can bring full meal deal. Democracy, Capitalism, population, economy, technology and military
Others - Global South
Necessary voters in democratic world.
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All in all Condi is presenting pure US point of view and mixing good portion of morals, global power to future satrap princelings
She thinks because democracy is moral value and US is the global power; that gives US moral right to impose its weight around.
But doesn’t accept the same for other global powers - because they aren’t democratic.
4) Which is why it is important for Bharat to
- Keep democratic face
- Keep growing economically
- develop home grown MIC
- focus on technology innovation
All being done by Modi Sarkar.
Modi sarkar also successfully brought/bringing global south on its wings. This is the reason for USA accommodating Bharat.
{India is a quasi great power wrt Global South by her definitions. Dont have to be an all round Great Power like US. Can be partial in select areas.}
Next 10 years:
Bharat should focus on becoming $10T economy; achieve AtmaNirbharata in MIC and at least 1-2 technology innovations and keep rolling out Indian digital infra to global south for free
Few Bharatiya solutions for global south nations:
1. Country based Aadhar & JDAM
2. Country based NMDC type and MUDRA
3. Country based digihealth
4. Country based digiyatra
5. Country based Bharat stack implementation
And make all the country based deployments integrate seamlessly for easy movement of people, money, logistics etc..
I think all these being done already.
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Our proposal in 2035 to the world should be the baton moves from US to India (a democracy and capitalist and most populous and most importantly non-Abrahamic civilization) instead of China.
On the face of it looks same but there are few firsts:bala wrote: ↑28 Sep 2023 07:05 1) What is she saying about Russia, China, and India
On the first video Madam Rice has not given anything new, at least from the US perspective. It is Rus bad, China bad and they ganged up against US in Ukr. The US thinks their forces are better than the Rus, just ask Scott Ritter and McGreagor about the will to fight and supplies in the US and you get a different answer. She also dismisses those who surround Putin as drunks, idiots and so on. She thinks Ukr people/language are different from Rus. This is a huge mistake considering she speaks Russian. The Ukr population is ethnically Rus on one side and Polish on the other. The in-between conversion relies on Russian. The Ukr think, breath, act along russian cultural lines, these habits are ingrained for centuries.
She thinks China is a rising power and not clear whether it is both economic / military. She briefly mentioned the spat with India that the chinese had. She clearly mentioned that Emperor is a disaster as far as foreign policy goes. No mention of US mollycoddling the chinese, Clinton gifting WTO and rocket secrets to the Chinese, Bush era presided over a China rise that effectively screwed the US (remember CDS). She mentioned 1 child policy and zero covid both of them asinine/disaster for the Chinese. Nothing as far as the US wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.
A rather disappointing lecture with nothing new to add. Condi Rice however gets credit for the 123 nuclear deal that Bush signed with India.
I know tis China thread. However the Deep State needs to be fully understood. The Deep state in its former avatar controlled "Colonialism worldwide". They formed initially in Germany and spread their wings into Britain, Netherlands, Spain, Portugal and France. The BritShitRaj was orchestrated by these Banksters (actual deep state owners) and the deep state made Britain their worldwide headquarters. Their single motive is to control worldwide money supply and worldwide resources. Most of the wars, chaos, illegal activities (slave trade, women trade, drugs, you name it) were controlled by them. The deep state really knows no boundarys (in terms of geographical, political, ethical, laws). They are an entity unto themselves and they make things bend their way. A branch of the deep state penetrated Russia and China. The deep state has fangs in India too. The US has become the inheritors of the BritshitRaj legacy and the deep state primary actors moved into the US. Their aims are the same - usurp wealth from nations, create chaos all around, run all kinds of illegal activities under the radar.Muppala wrote:the deep state itself is divided. She belongs to that old deep state
You nailed it! I have studied in the premium institutes in India and the US and one of the biggest education at least for me is from my own Nation - India. The amount of concepts, ideas, sheer breath of knowledge in various domains would overwhelm a serious scholar of Indian Knowledge system. You know there is a saying that if you were to just understand the Vedas, then that would amount to a handful of dirt from the mountain of knowledge extant in the Universe. But the Vedas are enormous and one can hope to perhaps understand a small portion of it in a lifetime.KL Dubey wrote:Bharat's biggest challenge/task is to educate and inspire its own people about their own civilization.
Where are the USN submarines?
Tertiary education without being trained for critical thinking and expression is pretty much useless. Better to go to trade school. Indian colleges aren't far better when it comes to teaching (on an average) but at least there is a tradition of free thinking and expression which makes a difference.DavidD wrote: ↑25 Sep 2023 14:55 What nonsense is that? China's urbanization rate stands at ~65%, and the tertiary education enrollment rate is ~60%. The issue in China right now isn't that there are too few qualified workers, it's that there are too many. Considering even Japan's tertiary education enrollment rate is only ~65%, China is producing too many college grads for its stage of economic development currently. Worse yet, Chinese youth are too used to the old ways of college grad = cushy white collar job in a big city that they're not willing to become baristas or waiters like many Westerners or move to smaller cities or god forbid rural areas to look for jobs.
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DavidD wrote: ↑25 Sep 2023 14:55
What nonsense is that? China's urbanization rate stands at ~65%, and the tertiary education enrollment rate is ~60%. The issue in China right now isn't that there are too few qualified workers, it's that there are too many. Considering even Japan's tertiary education enrollment rate is only ~65%, China is producing too many college grads for its stage of economic development currently. Worse yet, Chinese youth are too used to the old ways of college grad = cushy white collar job in a big city that they're not willing to become baristas or waiters like many Westerners or move to smaller cities or god forbid rural areas to look for jobs.
So very true, ramana. Totally agree.
The 3rd one is a combination of the first tworamana wrote: ↑05 Oct 2023 10:09 Condi Rice says that two types of states drive US policy: The CEO state i.e business interests and the NS state which is driven by national security
I think she didn't mention the Welfare State i.e. exporting democracy state which drives the State Dept to do regime change willy-nilly.
This Welfare state is what gives a bad name to the US.
I think being alarmed is better than being apathetic and complacent. I don't see alarmed as a negative word here.