Road to the 2024 Elections in India-1

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 02 Mar 2023 12:46

This practice will be enforced until a law in this regard is made by the Parliament, Justice KM Joseph reading out the judgment said.
If the BJP Govt have a spine, they can frame a new law to appoint the CEC and ECs. If non-existence of a law is the problem, a law can be made. I don't know the reasons, but the current BJP Govt have no idea on how to deal with the judiciary. May be the INC had some kind of way to work with/work around the Judiciary.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Mar 2023 13:02

Sachin wrote:This practice will be enforced until a law in this regard is made by the Parliament, Justice KM Joseph reading out the judgment said.
If the BJP Govt have a spine, they can frame a new law to appoint the CEC and ECs. If non-existence of a law is the problem, a law can be made. I don't know the reasons, but the current BJP Govt have no idea on how to deal with the judiciary. May be the INC had some kind of way to work with/work around the Judiciary.

this is a classic example of mission creep.

emboldened, motivated, and ideological

unmistakably BIF, both in origin, and in execution.

A Deshmukh · Post by **A Deshmukh** » 02 Mar 2023 13:12

Govt should go after the SC judges. I am sure some of them are corrupt and Govt would have evidence. Impeach a judge or two.

williams · Post by **williams** » 02 Mar 2023 13:36

A Deshmukh wrote:Govt should go after the SC judges. I am sure some of them are corrupt and Govt would have evidence. Impeach a judge or two.

Govt can simply ignore what the Supreme court said and not implement it. They can simply say that Executive branch can only execute what is legislated in the parliament and will not follow what the Judiciary legislates in the court. In fact they can pass a law in the name of preserving fragile democracy where the law of the land should be legislated by the representatives of the people and not unelected judges.

ritesh · Post by **ritesh** » 02 Mar 2023 13:56

The whole judiciary system needs to be overhauled, sooner the better

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 Mar 2023 14:27

Enact a law that will override collegium system also. If SC wants a law let us give them a law passed by the Parliament.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 02 Mar 2023 14:50

That was NJAC which SC buried... We should call them Shishupala Court near on.

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 Mar 2023 14:58

yesterday only a handle posted on twitter, while attending a hearing, steno of judge commented he (journalist) has a large following on twitter and influencer, judge said I am also there, journo asked pls state ur handle i will follow, judge said no I want to be a ghost only

A Deshmukh · Post by **A Deshmukh** » 02 Mar 2023 15:11

pass a law, that any "law" passed by the SC needs to be ratified by the Parliament before being implemented.
this will take care of any future activism.

williams · Post by **williams** » 02 Mar 2023 15:37

A Deshmukh wrote:pass a law, that any "law" passed by the SC needs to be ratified by the Parliament before being implemented.
this will take care of any future activism.

Supreme Court cannot pass laws they can only pass judgment which then becomes precedent. So something as big as the appointment of the Election Commission is not in the purview of the Court. Parliament needs to act now to save the constitution.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 02 Mar 2023 15:50

We are heading towards a big Parliament vs Judiciary show down. Better take up the challenge when you have numbers in the Parliament than leave it for later. At some point there wont be enough numbers in Parliament even if you want to put up a fight.

Prem Kumar · Post by **Prem Kumar** » 02 Mar 2023 16:16

If history is anything to go by, the Modi sarkar will make a few noises but do nothing. Excuses are available anyway - this is election year & we can't get distracted, blah blah.

They just don't have the spine, in spite of 303, to cut the judiciary down to size. Just like they didn't reform the media, the textbooks or the civil service, which are all bedrocks of the C-system. None of the UPA crooks even saw the inside of a prison.

When many of us (who are core Modi supporters) say that he is squandering 2 historic mandates by being a Prithviraj Chauhan, this is what we mean

A quote from Subhashithaani, translated from Sanskrit:

There are 3 things you should never leave unfinished: extinguishing a fire, repaying a debt & sparing an enemy

IndraD · Post by **IndraD** » 02 Mar 2023 17:22

This is Big

In the committee appointed by SC Other than two Infosys members one member of the committee to investigate Adani is Somasekhar Sundaresan is a board member of the British anti-India NGO Oxfam.

Same Oxfam which is funding activism against adani in Australia and India https://twitter.com/vijaygajera/status/ ... 64864?s=20

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 02 Mar 2023 17:38

My understanding.

Lets not forget. The real war is the NJAC vs Collegium. I mentioned this before. Judiciary has now fired its guns in the side ECI battle front .

We had Kiren Rijju talking at every chance he got. Even the President of India has made passing comments on the responsibilities of the Judiciary.

So Judiciary now makes a big move citing a loop hole that "no law exists on the appointment of ECI" despite the Constitution envisaging no role for the Judiciary.

Things have come to a head. NOw isnt it true that every law that is passed must be assented to by the President of India. The nature of this change cannot be decided by the Judiciary alone. So net, net there is only one final arbiter here - The President of India. Not the PM. Not judiciary. Not the ECI. Definately not the LOP. ( And clever how the panel of sitting judges left CJI out on this one in the hope that he will be the final arbiter. He cannot be even if SC thinks that they can take it to him in the end)

Joseph and others can do whatever they want. But expect the government to bring in the President after attempts by Kiren Rijju.

Too bad this has to come now just as 2024 warms up. Judiciary also knows that if Namo comes again, NJAC would fall on them. I believe Namo would have tried amicably first before letting Kiren Rijju take matters to a more harsher stance.

The worst case scenario here is that the mandate of the people gets nixed by the judiciary. We then enter a constitutional crisis .
If we dont see Judges breaking ranks and factions being formed , which then allows govt to work with sections of the Judiciary, we are in trouble.

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 02 Mar 2023 18:36

^^
Neelaji
The question is does it have to a new law or an ordinance will suffice??
To nix this can a suo moto PIL be filed to quesion the validy of the present LOP(given the party not meeting required numbers)
Is there a law or rule regarding the LOP appointment as (correct me if I am wrong) this is equivalent to a Cabinet Ministerial Rank!
If the Rastrapati signs an ordinance can it be challenged in SC on its validity as he/she is the supreme head

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 02 Mar 2023 18:38

And the question of Judiciary saving Democracy by canceling election results!! That will be first for India

In what results scenario should we expect that:
1. An overwhelming BJP majority meaning more 400 seats
2. NDA just Crossing the line
Because if the BJP loose or less than last election but comfortable majority(including the alliance patrners) this does not matter does it??

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 02 Mar 2023 19:21

As we saw in the US, challenging results virulently is enough to discredit the elections irrespective of the numbers. The groundwork for the same is going on and we are seeing their plan rollout in steps. Even if they cant overthrow 2024 results, plunging the country into violent unrest and clashes to damage our systems, economy and image will be taken by these forces as a victory.

In fact, they are not blind to see BJP & NAMO's huge popularity is impossible to overcome. The expectation is not a win in 2024, its beyond their reach, but to increase the cost of victory for NaMo manifold and make it bitter. They are consciously and intentionally playing a malicious lose-lose game, motivated by hatred towards India and Hindu civilisation itself.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Mar 2023 19:26

Cyrano wrote:As we saw in the US, challenging results virulently is enough to discredit the elections irrespective of the numbers. The groundwork for the same is going on and we are seeing their plan rollout in steps. Even if they cant overthrow 2024 results, plunging the country into violent unrest and clashes to damage our systems, economy and image will be taken by these forces as a victory.

In fact, they are not blind to see BJP & NAMO's huge popularity is impossible to overcome. The expectation is not a win in 2024, its beyond their reach, but to increase the cost of victory for NaMo manifold and make it bitter. They are consciously and intentionally playing a malicious lose-lose game, motivated by hatred towards India and Hindu civilisation itself.

What happens to the nominated EC now? Has this been set aside?
What is the first step now?
Pass a law on EC or some other strong message to SC?

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Mar 2023 19:55

The SoreAss ecosystem (including some in judiciary) want to pin BJP. They want to create a situation to force BJP hand to go for Emergency. They want BJP to take the bait. We have to se how they will handle this.

The people's expectation after very re-election gets higher (which is normal). For example, Farm Laws, Citiznenship law were all practically withdrawl with a clever game of media, external enemies in tandem with internal enemies and Judiciary. This can't be allowed often enough that makes Govt. look weaker and weaker by both opponents and supporters. People will wonder "why should we then vote for BJP". They need to do the pre-work, good media handling and crush the Soreass and Jihadi handles before the agitations not after.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 Mar 2023 20:06

I actually don't think that a panel comprised of the CJI, PM, and LoP is a bad idea. The only problem is the PM and LoP are the product of an electoral process. SC judges are not.

The SC can't demand transparency of one appointment and continue with collegium.

The collegium has to end. Why is it that you cant have something like 5 elected from the exec, 5 from parliament, and the two have to come to a consensus about another 5.

I believe the Italians have something similar.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 02 Mar 2023 20:30

vijayk wrote:The SoreAss ecosystem (including some in judiciary) want to pin BJP. They want to create a situation to force BJP hand to go for Emergency. They want BJP to take the bait. We have to se how they will handle this.

The people's expectation after very re-election gets higher (which is normal). For example, Farm Laws, Citiznenship law were all practically withdrawl with a clever game of media, external nemies and in tandem with internal enemies and Judiciary. This can't be allowed often enough that makes Govt. look weaker and weaker by both opponents and supporters. People will wonder "why should we then vote for BJP". They need to do the pre-work, good media handling and crush the Soreass and Jihadi handles before the agitations not after.

The BIF is looking very hard to provoke a confrontation which can then be used by the BIF to create unrest in India.

The farmers "agitation" and dilli "riots" are now looking like test cases and dry runs that seem to have tested out all aspects of the anarchy, including offshore financing and press coverage.

increasingly beginning to look like something big may be brewing

SRajesh · Post by **SRajesh** » 02 Mar 2023 20:42

^^Chetakji
The question is about what??
The nearest thing is State elections:
Can they create a situation in either MP or Karnatak for anarchy
Karnataka two issues : Tipoo nd Hijab(what with exams)
MP anything??
Rajasthan: border issues , lynching
J&K: statehood and 370
Telangana: again peaceful issues Charminar/Bhagyalaksmi
All India : Adani, NJAC, Reopening Guj riots

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Mar 2023 20:58

Rsatchi wrote:^^Chetakji
The question is about what??
The nearest thing is State elections:
Can they create a situation in either MP or Karnatak for anarchy
Karnataka two issues : Tipoo nd Hijab(what with exams)
MP anything??
Rajasthan: border issues , lynching
J&K: statehood and 370
Telangana: again peaceful issues Charminar/Bhagyalaksmi
All India : Adani, NJAC, Reopening Guj riots

As you move forward, every step will be challenged and Govt. will be pushed around.
If he passes a law against SC ruling, call him Nazi/Fascist. If he doesn't, take over the executive. SC knows Govt. avoids confrontation before election especially due to disastrous media strategy. Their spoke persons are totally useless. Their AG is a useless guy.

K'taka election and Adani will be used.

They won't mss with 370 or Hijab ... they know that these will consolidate Hindu votes

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 02 Mar 2023 21:02

Every one of them and more opportunities as they arise. They want to put NaMo in a situation where action will lead to bigger and riskier confrontations and inaction or half-action will lead to frustration and erosion of the moderately pro BJP and swing electorate.

BJP has to protect its core by expanding it by reinforcing Dhramic Civilisational emotional connect, because in the end thats what BIFs are actually targeting.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Mar 2023 21:17

Wondering if Govt. can refer the judgement to a constitutional committee on the validity of SC's claim to make up new laws or amend constitution without any constitutional basis. The committee should pass severe strictures against SC.

The committee should not only look into this EC law but all the other laws that they passed or judgements that affected the laws.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_I ... 0to%20them.

The Parliamentary committees are of two kinds – standing or permanent committees and ad hoc committees. The former are elected or appointed periodically and they work on a continuous basis. The latter are created on an ad hoc basis as the need arises and they are dissolved after they complete the task assigned to them.[3]

Examples of ad-hoc committees

Naresh Chandra Committee 2012 Defence reforms
Narasimham Committee 1998 1998 various Banking sector reforms

Govt. should take this opportunity to set up a committee for judicial reforms

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Mar 2023 21:24

Sachin wrote:This practice will be enforced until a law in this regard is made by the Parliament, Justice KM Joseph reading out the judgment said.
If the BJP Govt have a spine, they can frame a new law to appoint the CEC and ECs. If non-existence of a law is the problem, a law can be made. I don't know the reasons, but the current BJP Govt have no idea on how to deal with the judiciary. May be the INC had some kind of way to work with/work around the Judiciary.

Boss don't talk about BJP spine. It is not fair coming from you an admin.

The current Constitution Art 324 clause says CEC is appointed by the President.
So there is a law.
If a new law is made then the Legislature branch submits to the Judiciary over reach.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 02 Mar 2023 21:30

ramana wrote:
Sachin wrote:This practice will be enforced until a law in this regard is made by the Parliament, Justice KM Joseph reading out the judgment said.
If the BJP Govt have a spine, they can frame a new law to appoint the CEC and ECs. If non-existence of a law is the problem, a law can be made. I don't know the reasons, but the current BJP Govt have no idea on how to deal with the judiciary. May be the INC had some kind of way to work with/work around the Judiciary.
Boss don't talk about BJP spine. It is not fair coming from you an admin.

The current Constitution Art 324 clause says CEC is appointed by the President.
So there is a law.
If a new law is made then the Legislature branch submits to the Judiciary over reach.

That's true Article 324 is clear.

what is the option for Govt.? Can they reject it and say they will follow the constitutions.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Mar 2023 21:33

IndraD wrote:This is Big

In the committee appointed by SC Other than two Infosys members one member of the committee to investigate Adani is Somasekhar Sundaresan is a board member of the British anti-India NGO Oxfam.

Same Oxfam which is funding activism against adani in Australia and India https://twitter.com/vijaygajera/status/ ... 64864?s=20

Nandan Nilekani, Infosys and Congress candidate from Bangalore in 2019.

OP Bhat, SBI gave a Rs 7000 crore loan to Dhoot group that is filing for bankruptcy and even under CBI scanner for dubious loans to absconder Vijay Mallaya.

KV Kamath recommended Chand Kochar who is arrested for fraud

Sunderesan is a director of Oxfam which is facing fraud charges and FCRA canceled. And as you point out funded anti-Adani activism.

SC has loaded the panel with anti-Adani members with lots of conflicts of interest.

And retired SC judge.

Same SC says retired judges should not get appointments.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 02 Mar 2023 23:07

vijayk wrote:
ramana wrote: Boss don't talk about BJP spine. It is not fair coming from you an admin.

The current Constitution Art 324 clause says CEC is appointed by the President.
So there is a law.
If a new law is made then the Legislature branch submits to the Judiciary over reach.
That's true Article 324 is clear.

what is the option for Govt.? Can they reject it and say they will follow the constitutions.

The issue is this - In the event that we have a non-nda government at the center, what sort of safety locks will BJP leave to check the exec overreach?

We may be comfortable with BJP doing it, but what about a NACxalite GoI?

What's wrong with ECI in that case being elected by a body from LOp, PM, and CJI?

Do NJAC and then make the CJI consensus based among the existing SC members and institute term limits for SC judges (10-20 years).

Even better than NJAC would be to make the SC panel appointable by LOp and Executive.11 each and then the remaining 11 are appointed by the 22 member committee.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Mar 2023 02:07

Cyrano wrote:That was NJAC which SC buried... We should call them Shishupala Court near on.

NJAC was a compromise from UPA that got passed as a stop gap. And glad its rejected.

The Constitution has no place for the Collegium and it was even disucssed and rejected in the Constiuent Assemby by Ambedkar who feared it will become a cabal. His fears are realized.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Mar 2023 02:09

As a true believer in democracy if the people elected a NAClite govt then it's the will of the people.
Eventually, the system will self-correct.
That is the beauty of democracy

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 03 Mar 2023 05:17

Opening a front with Judiciary is exactly what BIF would like Modi to do. and I am glad Modi has well left this and will take it up at another day. The current CEC is there till Feb 2025. Another 2 years. Plenty of time after a 2024 win.

Let me give example of Imran Khan to provide a contrast. The guy came with super mandate (absolute backing of establishment) and could have anything but focused on demolishing opposition and not growth. Net results is that the country tanked.

Modi is much smarter. And thank Parmatma for that. If he does what people in BRF expected him to do than he would have lost 2019 elections. Doing things BRfits wants him to do can get him claps from RW but wont get him votes and win from the masses who gets tired of all blusters from anti corruption and similar crusades when they dont see growth. So Modi has focused correctly on growth and delivery. He has focused on the draining the ecosystem slowly too. Media is good example actually. Tightening the NGO Funding, huge clampdown on urban naxals..the list is long and Rome was not build in a day. This will change things in long run and more fundamentally than say putting Sonia Mata behind bars in National Herald case.

My two cents. Focus on practical issues and winning elections. Dont bring the FUD (Fear, uncertainty, destruction) scenario every time.

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 03 Mar 2023 06:38

Another major concern

https://twitter.com/suryakane/status/16 ... 0814528514

Surya Kanegaonkar @suryakane
Atlantic Council’s DFR lab has been at the forefront of training Soros-funded, India-focused “fact checkers.” This thread reveals what many handles have known for long - their voices were muzzled because of a political and religious witch-hunt.

2. On June 8, 2021, an analyst at the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensic Research Lab wrote to Twitter:

“Hi guys. Attached you will find… around 40k twitter accounts that our researchers suspect are engaging in inauthentic behavior… and Hindu nationalism more broadly.”

Matt Taibbi
@mtaibbi

3. DFRLab said it suspected 40,000 accounts of being “paid employees or possibly volunteers” of India’s Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

But the list was full of ordinary Americans, many with no connection to India and no clue about Indian politics. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... DY/pubhtml

https://twitter.com/suryakane/status/15 ... 7877771264

Surya Kanegaonkar
@suryakane
Alerted by the FBI, Facebook tweaked its algorithm to suppress a genuine news story which was electorally damaging for the Democrats. Facebook ran the story through “third party fact checkers” and proceeded to censor it.

Imagine what they can do to its 400m user base in India.

They have to simply ban Instagram and Twitter during election time?

https://twitter.com/suryakane/status/16 ... 4359409664

Surya Kanegaonkar
@suryakane

Amongst the top donors to the @AtlanticCouncil are the @StateDept , @DeptofDefense and the @FCDOGovUK
. Specially, @DFRLab is funded by the US government’s @TheGEC which is headed up by special envoy James Rubin: https://state.gov/biographies/james-p-rubin/.

This is state-sponsored censorship.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FqP9xo0WAAA ... ame=medium

williams · Post by **williams** » 03 Mar 2023 14:15

CalvinH wrote:Opening a front with Judiciary is exactly what BIF would like Modi to do. and I am glad Modi has well left this and will take it up at another day. The current CEC is there till Feb 2025. Another 2 years. Plenty of time after a 2024 win.

Let me give example of Imran Khan to provide a contrast. The guy came with super mandate (absolute backing of establishment) and could have anything but focused on demolishing opposition and not growth. Net results is that the country tanked.

Modi is much smarter. And thank Parmatma for that. If he does what people in BRF expected him to do than he would have lost 2019 elections. Doing things BRfits wants him to do can get him claps from RW but wont get him votes and win from the masses who gets tired of all blusters from anti corruption and similar crusades when they dont see growth. So Modi has focused correctly on growth and delivery. He has focused on the draining the ecosystem slowly too. Media is good example actually. Tightening the NGO Funding, huge clampdown on urban naxals..the list is long and Rome was not build in a day. This will change things in long run and more fundamentally than say putting Sonia Mata behind bars in National Herald case.

My two cents. Focus on practical issues and winning elections. Dont bring the FUD (Fear, uncertainty, destruction) scenario every time.

We have come to a stage where domestic meritocrats are getting their hands tied when they play a big part in India's growth. Both Foreign and domestic enemies of the state are exploiting the weak judiciary and entrenched bureaucracy to their advantage to tie down India's growth. So yes Modi is doing a great job, but the next major thing has to be reforming the judiciary and bureaucracy in a way that will not thwart the meritocrats to bloom. Otherwise, we will keep losing our human capital to other competing powers where there is a stable rule of law and meritocracy. We need to have clean and meritorious judges who are focused on enforcing timely justice instead of answering all kinds of commie-infested PILs. We need to increase bureaucratic competency by incentivizing honesty and hard work while punishing corruption and incompetence. But our Judiciary and bureaucracy are colonial relics that need to be decolonized urgently. Modi has the mandate and the capacity to do this job without thwarting the momentum of development IMO.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 03 Mar 2023 14:16

ramana wrote:
Cyrano wrote:That was NJAC which SC buried... We should call them Shishupala Court near on.
NJAC was a compromise from UPA that got passed as a stop gap. And glad its rejected.

The Constitution has no place for the Collegium and it was even disucssed and rejected in the Constiuent Assemby by Ambedkar who feared it will become a cabal. His fears are realized.

Judges should have no say in appointment of anyone. They should be treated as government servants similar to police whose job is to hear cases and give judgments. Tomorrow police body will say they also want to have a say in appointments. Only people and their elected representatives should have a say in running government and appointments. If judges want to take that role, then they have to win elections and if lost, must be made to lose their post as well. So for the appointment of EC, Leader of Opposition could be considered and also if there is no consensus, then that could go into a vote in the Parliament and not into the hands of judges who are not elected by people, who enjoy the privilege of not removed by people though vote. Since Judges are turning power hungry it is necessary to cut down whatever extra powers they acquired on their own. Their role should be strictly limited to giving judgement and not even adding their personal opinion after judgement. Such personal opinions if given should be treated as indiscipline and such judges debarred from holding office.Democracy cannot be undermined with people losing control when unelected people making decisions on appointment and run elections themselves. Control should always be with the people and their vote. Nothing else.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 03 Mar 2023 14:37

There must be serious debate on Electing High court and Supreme court Judges by people in the Parliament. Its positives and negatives. Also there should be a mechanism to achieve such an election. Even stockholders get to vote on decision making, but we cannot elect Judges with the technology available today need debated in Parliament. With Aadhar linked phones with OTP and even finger scan feature it could very well be possible for online voting. Atleast a mechanism to remove a Judge through voting should exist, more on the lines of feedback system.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 03 Mar 2023 14:53

Let me put out probability of an upcoming danger is this. LoP selected a person from their camp and ready to even ditch election through electronic voting machine. Judge will give consent to such an appointment. Literally vetoing any say for the govt appointed by the people. Then election will be done with paper ballot all kinds of violence could be unleashed. That kills democracy and foreign agents are back in power. So GoI should not consent to such a decision making process. Instead of judge it should be Parliament of India if there is no consensus between Ruling party and Leader of opposition.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 03 Mar 2023 16:01

Rsatchi wrote:^^Chetakji
The question is about what??
The nearest thing is State elections:
Can they create a situation in either MP or Karnatak for anarchy
Karnataka two issues : Tipoo nd Hijab(what with exams)
MP anything??
Rajasthan: border issues , lynching
J&K: statehood and 370
Telangana: again peaceful issues Charminar/Bhagyalaksmi
All India : Adani, NJAC, Reopening Guj riots

Rsatchi ji,

What exactly was the "farmers agitations" about and also the dilli riots that erupted out of the blue because the intelligence guys were sleeping and the cops were diverted by the law and order issues in the light of Trump's visit.

They were two different and distinct toolkits but they closely coordinated with each other, feeding into one another, as well as, feeding off one another. Funding, supply chains, and master minds were different.

Both were manufactured out of thin air by the BIF led congis and paapis and sustained big time via congi ecosystem in punjab and paapi ecosystem in dilli.

the khalistanis, who incidentally are never too far from the congi ecosystem pitched in using their 'langar system", funded by the abrahamics and a parody of the sikh malsi brotherhood took shape.

women and children were deployed and that effectively put paid to any meaningful police action to break up the rapidly developing situation

So, what were those riots and agitations all about, would you know... ESPECIALLY WHEN, NO ONE IN THE COUNTRY SPOKE AGAINST IT OR EVEN OPPOSED IT IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY and I am not even mentioning the traitorous pAAP and seditious khujliwal

that is exactly how the next situation is going to play out, and anything, but anything at all can spark it off.

The process, product and the battle logistics have all been tested out. The BIF foot soldiers are being readied for combat.

Working capital is already in place. So much of gold smuggling, massive ingress of drugs and weapons are not being done because people in India are each getting married 10 times to 10 different women.

There is a toolkit stash already in place and the big bad boys like soros are limbering up, oiling themselves, and warming up to grapple with the Hindutwadis and wrestle India away from Modi and his civilizational parivar.

If they could sustain the "farmer's agitation" from 9 August 2020 – 11 December 2021, with chaos during the red fort flag raising and all that, imagine what they could do now, especially after Modi took a stance to keep clear of the ukraine war and not side against russia.

All the "pillars of democracy" were with the BIF, even in those days, and the nationalists fought a lonely battle. Now, a much larger BIF force is massing on our economic borders and the paki cheeni combo will play their part as well

The BIF desperately need to trim India's sails, and push her back economically, by at least a decade, or two, or three....

They are scared of an Indian sun rise, one that they cannot control, channel, or even direct as per their will.

The narrative of the cheenis and their "Century of humiliation" or "hundred years of national humiliation" is what is being shoved at the whites by the vengeful hans, and rammed unrelentingly down their western throats.

The BIF have, for tens of decades, tried to alter the narrative of India's history to blackout our "centuries of humiliation" (plural) and every white and malsi knows exactly what has done to India and her civilizational by them and their vile, greedy ancestors.

The whites and malsis, as per their culture, nature, and book, probably fear the very same being done to them, in the not so distant future.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 03 Mar 2023 17:47

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Mar 2023 02:35

https://twitter.com/ABoni8/status/1631726861289148416

It's Indian journalists that asked Blinked questions on minorities, freedom of speech, BBC, suspension of NGOs ... We have vulture activists .. See the smile on face when they ask it
link 1 : https://twitter.com/ABoni8/status/1631706100478382080

link 2 :

AB @ABoni8
2 Journalists that were selected by @SecBlinken frm India were from CCP media Maha Sedequie @ndtv and Suhasni Haider from @the_hindu .
Does Blinken knows they are Chinese mouthpieces in India but hate for India and itch of regime change makes strange bedfellows:)
@DrSJaishankar

AB @ABoni8
Geeta mohan like all other congress journalists raises minority issue with Blinken. No one raise minorities doing STSJ of Hindus with Tony

Kanhaiya, Kishen, Rohit, Umesh and list is endless. @FinestYew check Blinken's response to that question at 46.35

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@SecBlinken says to @Geeta_Mohan that Gautam Adani and George Soros was not discussed and raised by India @DrSJaishankar
Sec Blinken hints at state visit of @narendramodi to Washington DC sometimes in near future