I feel like we need a dedicated Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict thread, since we have some involvement there, and it seems to affect our strategic interests.
One final thought on the Armenia/Karabakh question: a huge percentage of the Armenian people, perhaps the majority, has no desire to defend Karabakh and fight for it. They wished for someone who would rid them of this troublesome problem. They have found this someone: Pashinyan
From the point of view of geostrategic logic, the only thing that matters to Russia in Armenia right now is the Zangezur corridor that connects to Iran.
Replies to the tweet are interesting too!
An earlier tweet as well -
I just hope we don't get involved at all if it goes hot again. Other than diplomatic mediation. The North–South Corridor makes the whole Transcaucasian region east of the Caspian less important to Russia economically/geostrategically, and Armenia is no friend to Russia.
However, can anyone explain what is our geo-political advantage in this engagement other than weapon sales? If Russia also doesn't want to get engaged, then are we doing this just to spite Erdogan?
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 13 Sep 2023 14:03
by Aditya_V
We are keeping ATAGS line running, if Iran is transporting it, Russia and Iran are on board, Azerbhaijan and Turkey have thrown thier.lot with Pakistan
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 13 Sep 2023 15:35
by tapan
Aditya_V wrote: ↑13 Sep 2023 14:03
We are keeping ATAGS line running, if Iran is transporting it, Russia and Iran are on board, Azerbhaijan and Turkey have thrown thier.lot with Pakistan
Commerce and more pressure on the caliph and their boot-lickers, not a bad deal
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 13 Sep 2023 18:36
by Najunamar
Also tspanji as was explained in one of the previous videos posted, this is to maintain the North South land corridor open without resort to Azerbhaijan and Turkey...
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 13 Sep 2023 18:38
by Najunamar
This assumes even more significance as an alternative when the new silk roue initiative is considered.
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 13 Sep 2023 23:44
by tapan
Najunamar wrote: ↑13 Sep 2023 18:36
Also tspanji as was explained in one of the previous videos posted, this is to maintain the North South land corridor open without resort to Azerbhaijan and Turkey...
Not quite the conflict, Armenians are getting pro India, just watch the youth and young girls dancing in indian attire. Many of them watch Indian movies (bollywood) and Bharat's soft power has overtaken them.
Armenian Song In Indian/Bharat Style.
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 14 Sep 2023 15:12
by Haresh
bala wrote: ↑14 Sep 2023 08:25
Not quite the conflict, Armenians are getting pro India, just watch the youth and young girls dancing in indian attire. Many of them watch Indian movies (bollywood) and Bharat's soft power has overtaken them.
Armenian Song In Indian/Bharat Style.
I used to work with a Armenia years ago. The subject of the Armenian Genocide came up and we discussed the Partition and the experiences with the peacefuls.
There are alot of very successful Armenians especially in the USA,Cher the singer and the Kardashians. The Kardashians did a program on the Armenian Genocide & their familes experience of it.
Just google "famous armenians" locate their Twitter handles and use it to increase engagement.
We Indians have to be more pro-active when it comes to Information warfare, they have huge amount of followers.
bala wrote: ↑14 Sep 2023 08:25
Not quite the conflict, Armenians are getting pro India, just watch the youth and young girls dancing in indian attire. Many of them watch Indian movies (bollywood) and Bharat's soft power has overtaken them.
Armenian Song In Indian/Bharat Style.
Some messages by Armenians in that video, calling India the land of their ancestors
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 14 Sep 2023 18:08
by ernest
Haresh wrote: ↑14 Sep 2023 16:21
Cher responds to Biden calling mass killing of Armenians a genocide
There is a Vedic Hindu fire temple in Baku, Ateshgah, Azerbaijan. In 1883 Russian Czar Alexander Alexandrovich , known historically as Alexander III who reigned as Emperor of Russia, King of Poland and Grand Prince of Finland, went to Baku to visit the fire temple Ateshgah. He witnessed a full Vedic Agnihotra from the homan pit lit by a natural naphta fire, conducted by Indian Hindu Brahmins. In fact this was arranged just for his majesty's eyes. Till the Czar visited this Fire temple at Baku, Azerbaijan laid neglected, for the violent Islamic influence had driven away all the peace loving Hindus. The fire temple at Baku was built during the reign of the great Indian Emperor Vikramaditya. Vedic Indians are the first fire worshippers. In 1683 a German traveler Kaempfer visited Baku. He noted that there are seven fire holes at the Hindu temple. Originally when the temple was built it had nine eternal flames. This is the spot where Shiva’s wife Devi Sati’s heart fell. Baku and Samarkand were old trading areas, where Indian Ayurvedic medicines were in high demand.
Baku in Azerbaijani language actually signifies a Vedic Devi. The Baku temple is about 18 feet square using the principle of Vaastu. In the center is an Agnihotra havanam or homam pit about 3 feet deep and about 4 feet square. The fire burnt continuously due to the natural gas emitting from the bottom of the pit. In Parsee Atash Kadeh, for the central fire, a high platform like a throne is erected, not a sunken inverted pyramid pit. At the entrance of the temple, there is a foundation stone with inscription in devnagri script, which in the beginning invokes Shiva’s son Lord Ganesha. This inscription contains nine lines. The first row has a bell of the shape found in a Hindu temple. Then a sun, then a homam fire, then a Shiva’s trishul (trident) and a Swastika Vedic symbol. In the inscription, you can see “Shree Ganeshaayanum” in the first line, the Vikramaajeet Hindu calendar year (“Vikramaajeet Saake”) in the second line and “Shree Jwaalaajee” (the fire ball) in the third line. Around the temple there is a large square with 25 rooms. They are closed from outside, so it appears as a compound wall. Every cell has a door but no windows. In one of them is a wall painting of Hindu Deva, Lord Ganesha. Some walls have pictures of banyan trees (found in Hindu temples) and Shiva’s trident. One of these cells is more than 35 feet long like a common dormitory. Some cells have a dome like structure at the top. Two cells were used to tie up the horses of the visitors. In 20 cells there are Sanskrit inscriptions in devnagiri script.
In the Lenin Museum in Moscow, the idols removed from Baku temple, is exhibited. Some statues show Hindu priests in dhoti sitting cross legged doing an Agnihotra fire homam. Some are shown singing kirtans with Hindu musical instruments. They have red dots (tilaks) on their foreheads, which nobody else wears. Some are shown weaving a rug. It has an explanatory tablet in Russian in which they are clearly identified as Hindus. The English translation reproduced verbatim is as follows, “Near the town Baku in the villages of Souratshaanaa and Emidjan where the fire (naphtha) comes from the earth lived the Hindoos, who came from India. They were Brahmans. They made a temple and adored the fire many years. They lived there, but now they are not at Baku. It is said that years before they lived in little rooms and worked for money. They built their cells. They are not the Parsees or the Guebers who adored Zarathushtra”.
Re: Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict
Posted: 14 Sep 2023 22:18
by drnayar
and while you are there ., you might want to talk about the extent of hindu religion, culture and rituals ...in Turkey
