Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
If I were Israel, I will continue till Gazas realize that Arab-Turkey, Pakistan, Qatar support is empty words with nothing concrete. Hamas should suffer0 enough body count, that Gazans activity seek peace and ban Al Jazeera themselves.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Hamas's objective in starting this, was to bring Palestinian statehood to the forefront - it has bene put on the backburner, as the various Arab regimes were in the process of normalizing ties with Israel.
Hamas could only hope to this by incurring as many civilian casualties as possible. In that regard, Israel is playing to their hands.
50,000 dead Palestinians is a small price if their get their state. One way or the other it does not affect us, since we have always supported a 2 state solution.
Hamas could only hope to this by incurring as many civilian casualties as possible. In that regard, Israel is playing to their hands.
50,000 dead Palestinians is a small price if their get their state. One way or the other it does not affect us, since we have always supported a 2 state solution.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Leaving Hamas is charge of Gaza is the biggest danger for the Israelis, better to keep the siege till slowly Hamas in Gaza is finished and civilians know no one will save them and best to have West Bank style Government
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
The only country I support in this conflict is mine. In that regard, I think a longer war (with Israel on top at the end) works best for us.
Before this conflict, a separate Palestinian state was dead. There was an emerging alliance of US+Israel+Saudi+Minor Gulf states all taking on
Iran. India would have been a minor player. The other side would have been Iran+Syria+China+Russia, which was not a side we could engage with, without pissing off the US led alliance. Turkey plays both sides as usual.
The US alliance is now dead. It is only US+Israel against the Arab world.
Saudi and Iran have had a rapprochement of sorts, brokered by China. That suits us fine, as we have good relations with both. Net result is
better availability of oil from both countries. My view is that they will squeeze the West on oil, the longer the Gaza war continues. .
Saudi, UAE, Iran, China, Russia are part of BRICS, so we engage at this forum, not as an anti US alliance, which also suits us.
We can be an honest broker between the Arabs and Israel, to get some kind of solution. We are probably the only country trusted by both and where our PM and EAM enjoy Gravitas across the world.
All the left/ Islamist/ liberals in the West who criticise us on Kashmir and are now supporting Hamas, will be called out. We cannot take on
Ilhan Omar/Jaypal/ AOC etc, but the Jewish lobby can and will. Some on the extreme right, who are strong supporters of Israel, will move closer to
us, seeing India a bulwark against future Islamist militancy.
The more Gazan civilians die, the more will be the appreciation of our approach to Kashmir. The Islamic world will put Kashmir on the backburner, till the conflict dies down for good (I see the start of rail services to Srinagar as the same changer).
US weapon stocks and funds will be too depleted (the longer this lasts) for them to intervene in any meaningful way in Ukraine.
A ceasefire on Russian terms will probably be the best outcome for us, with US them pivoting more strongly to India, to contain a Russia-China-Iran alliance (with no one else in the Middle East supporting them, or seeing a threat from Iran).
A longer war will also shatter the myth built around the Mossad & IDF and probably let us give more weightage to Russian platforms that have been proven in Ukraine (e.g. S-400 instead of Barak).
Before this conflict, a separate Palestinian state was dead. There was an emerging alliance of US+Israel+Saudi+Minor Gulf states all taking on
Iran. India would have been a minor player. The other side would have been Iran+Syria+China+Russia, which was not a side we could engage with, without pissing off the US led alliance. Turkey plays both sides as usual.
The US alliance is now dead. It is only US+Israel against the Arab world.
Saudi and Iran have had a rapprochement of sorts, brokered by China. That suits us fine, as we have good relations with both. Net result is
better availability of oil from both countries. My view is that they will squeeze the West on oil, the longer the Gaza war continues. .
Saudi, UAE, Iran, China, Russia are part of BRICS, so we engage at this forum, not as an anti US alliance, which also suits us.
We can be an honest broker between the Arabs and Israel, to get some kind of solution. We are probably the only country trusted by both and where our PM and EAM enjoy Gravitas across the world.
All the left/ Islamist/ liberals in the West who criticise us on Kashmir and are now supporting Hamas, will be called out. We cannot take on
Ilhan Omar/Jaypal/ AOC etc, but the Jewish lobby can and will. Some on the extreme right, who are strong supporters of Israel, will move closer to
us, seeing India a bulwark against future Islamist militancy.
The more Gazan civilians die, the more will be the appreciation of our approach to Kashmir. The Islamic world will put Kashmir on the backburner, till the conflict dies down for good (I see the start of rail services to Srinagar as the same changer).
US weapon stocks and funds will be too depleted (the longer this lasts) for them to intervene in any meaningful way in Ukraine.
A ceasefire on Russian terms will probably be the best outcome for us, with US them pivoting more strongly to India, to contain a Russia-China-Iran alliance (with no one else in the Middle East supporting them, or seeing a threat from Iran).
A longer war will also shatter the myth built around the Mossad & IDF and probably let us give more weightage to Russian platforms that have been proven in Ukraine (e.g. S-400 instead of Barak).
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Abhijit Iyer-Mitra, on Citti YT, is sayig that he feels that it is the Russians that are behind the Hamas attack.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Deans Saar,
PLO is open to co existing with Israel.
Not Hamas.
Second, Hamas is an off shoot of Muslim Brotherhood. Regardless of what people are saying about Israel's hand in its creation.
Muslim Brotherhood is banned in Egypt and Crown Prince MBS had one of it's members dismembered in Turkey.
So if the conflict can be removed from the front pages. Israel can get away with totally dismantling of the Hamas.
PLO is open to co existing with Israel.
Not Hamas.
Second, Hamas is an off shoot of Muslim Brotherhood. Regardless of what people are saying about Israel's hand in its creation.
Muslim Brotherhood is banned in Egypt and Crown Prince MBS had one of it's members dismembered in Turkey.
So if the conflict can be removed from the front pages. Israel can get away with totally dismantling of the Hamas.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Re: what Deans wrote, my reaction is - for the last 2000 years, among the Christians and then also among the Muslims, Jews were on occasion given the privilege of existing, but not the right of existing; and that privilege could be withdrawn at any time. This is true even of the post-Enlightenment much weaker remnants of Christianity: Jews are granted the privilege of existing, not the inalienable right of existing.
The Indian subcontinent is huge, and people of the Indic traditions have made homes in other lands as well; but since 700 AD, the same model is applied to us of the Indic traditions; they grant only the privilege of existing, not the right, and that privilege can be withdrawn at any time. Our size makes us complacent, but like termites attacking the foundations of a house, we too are under constant insidious threat. We also have those who take natural, internal family disagreements and seek external allies in those fights -- how many times it has happened in Indian history! This is always under the guise of some kind of internationalism - whether Islamic, or Leftist/Communist or neoliberal.
Israel is not all nice; and certainly India has a lot of way to go to wipe all the tears of all of its people -- but on the absolute right to exist we cannot yield an inch. It cannot be "you continue to exist in the meantime until we can conquer or convert you". There cannot be "you are far from perfect and so we have the right to conquer or convert you".
That is the common principle that unites Israel and India. So these playbooks of terrorism and of political protests against Israel, we have to observe and learn from.
Moreover, this is going to be an unending struggle, unless we too take up in a serious way 'Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam'. Though now we are in a defensive phase and far from strong enough to sustain an offense.
The Indian subcontinent is huge, and people of the Indic traditions have made homes in other lands as well; but since 700 AD, the same model is applied to us of the Indic traditions; they grant only the privilege of existing, not the right, and that privilege can be withdrawn at any time. Our size makes us complacent, but like termites attacking the foundations of a house, we too are under constant insidious threat. We also have those who take natural, internal family disagreements and seek external allies in those fights -- how many times it has happened in Indian history! This is always under the guise of some kind of internationalism - whether Islamic, or Leftist/Communist or neoliberal.
Israel is not all nice; and certainly India has a lot of way to go to wipe all the tears of all of its people -- but on the absolute right to exist we cannot yield an inch. It cannot be "you continue to exist in the meantime until we can conquer or convert you". There cannot be "you are far from perfect and so we have the right to conquer or convert you".
That is the common principle that unites Israel and India. So these playbooks of terrorism and of political protests against Israel, we have to observe and learn from.
Moreover, this is going to be an unending struggle, unless we too take up in a serious way 'Krinvanto Vishvam Aryam'. Though now we are in a defensive phase and far from strong enough to sustain an offense.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Israel asks India for 100,000 workers to replace Palestinian workers after October 7 attacks: Reports
https://www.thestatesman.com/india/isra ... 38378.html
November 6, 2023
Israeli Builders Association has urged the government to allow companies to hire up to 100,000 Indian workers to replace almost equal number of Palestinians who have lost their work permits amid the ongoing war between Israeli military and Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip, according to a report published by VOA News.
Haim Feiglin of Israeli Builders Association said that they are negotiating with India in this regard and currently waiting for a decision from the Israeli government to approve this.
“We hope to engage some 50,000 to 100,000 workers from India to work across the sector and bring it to normalcy,” he said.
According to the report, there are some 90,000 Palestinians who used to work in Israel before the war began. However, they are no longer allowed to work in Israel following the brutal October 7 attack by militants of Palestinian Islamic outfit Hamas.
This has led to a significant slowdown in Israel’s construction industry, which is reeling under a severe shortage of workforce.
Notably, India and Israel had signed an agreement in May early this year to allow 42,000 Indian workers to work in the Jewish state in the fields of construction and nursing. The move was expected to help Israel in dealing with the rising cost of living as Indian labourers are paid comparatively cheaper wages.
India has the world’s largest working population and tens of hundreds of Indian workers are already working in the Middle East. So far, it is not clear if a new deal will be signed or they will tweak the existing one since it only allows 42,000 workers for both construction and nursing sector.
As per the May 2023 deal that was signed by Israeli Foreign Minister Eli Cohen and his Indian counterpart Dr S Jaishankar, 34,000 workers will be engaged in the construction field and another 8,000 for nursing needs.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Agreed. Israel and PLO can co-exist, but not Hamas and the Nethanyhu govt. Irrespective of the outcome of the war, I think this Israeli govt (the mostPratyush wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023 18:49 Deans Saar,
PLO is open to co existing with Israel.
Not Hamas.
Second, Hamas is an off shoot of Muslim Brotherhood. Regardless of what people are saying about Israel's hand in its creation.
Muslim Brotherhood is banned in Egypt and Crown Prince MBS had one of it's members dismembered in Turkey.
So if the conflict can be removed from the front pages. Israel can get away with totally dismantling of the Hamas.
hardline and anti Palestinian one in Israeli history) is finished. That's not a bad thing for us. Israel's very anti Iran stand for e.g. can destabilize the region and is not in our interest. Similarly, Hamas will not be an influential force for some time, allowing the PLO (which had traditionally good ties
with India) the opportunity to reclaim its space.
As long as civilians are killed, the conflict will remain on the front pages.
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It should not be a situation like migrant workers in Kashmir, without the IA to protect them. These workers may be working among Palestinians who have lost their jobs and can lash out at soft targets like Indians. There will have to be safeguards like medical care, protection etc. Also, it will have to be a deal between private parties only (e.g. Adani can hire Indians for Haifa port) if GOI is involved, it will affect hiring of Indians by Arab govts.
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Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Nobody wants trouble in their own borders. The wealthier Arab governments have their own businesses to protect.Deans wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023 22:03It should not be a situation like migrant workers in Kashmir, without the IA to protect them. These workers may be working among Palestinians who have lost their jobs and can lash out at soft targets like Indians. There will have to be safeguards like medical care, protection etc. Also, it will have to be a deal between private parties only (e.g. Adani can hire Indians for Haifa port) if GOI is involved, it will affect hiring of Indians by Arab govts.
Plus, there is a general consensus that Indian expats are generally law-abiding, add value and contribute to local economies.
Saudi Arabia , UAE , Oman, Bahrain will not be affected.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
As I said, it is a "huge risk" and also "Escalation at a global scale".Deans wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023 22:03It should not be a situation like migrant workers in Kashmir, without the IA to protect them. These workers may be working among Palestinians who have lost their jobs and can lash out at soft targets like Indians. There will have to be safeguards like medical care, protection etc. Also, it will have to be a deal between private parties only (e.g. Adani can hire Indians for Haifa port) if GOI is involved, it will affect hiring of Indians by Arab govts.
IMO, this conflict has gone way past "Hamas" vs. "Israel". It is not even close. Just think: Bharat supports Israel, and South Africa has withdrawn their ambassador!! Talk of a crack.
A full/better discussion belongs to the Geo economics/politics thread.
As for your concerns, I do not think Palestinians will be allowed to work within Israel. Also, from what I can see the Arabians have fractured along a single line. So, I am not at all worried about "Arab govts". In fact, if at all, Indian labor would be welcomed in Saudi Arabia (for Neom) and the IMEC (replacing Chinese).
What I would like to see is an accelerated pace for all these decisions. Pay more, but get them done quickly. Time is of the essence, not cost. IMO.
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This would only work if Israel and most specifically the Netanyahu right coalition also seek peace. I do not think either side is at that point.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Al Jazeera is a ba$tard of the CIA.
I am very surprised that Iran was left out. Any reason why?
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
1. Bolivia
2. Honduras
3. Turkey
4. Colombia
5. Chile
6. Bahrain
7. Jordan
8. South Africa
9. Chad
have withdrawn their diplomats from Israel.
2. Honduras
3. Turkey
4. Colombia
5. Chile
6. Bahrain
7. Jordan
8. South Africa
9. Chad
have withdrawn their diplomats from Israel.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
UAE is setting up a Field Hospital in Gaza. GCC is making a move
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
There could be some minor repurcussions. Arab sheikdoms may try to armtwist India by saying Indian expats in The Gelf would be asked to go back to India. In secular states like KL there would be a loud hue & cry, especially as the RoP folks and the commies now pretty much grovel in front of the Arabs and consider them as mai-baap. And if Israel does want Indian labour; they may also not prefer them from RoP. RoL, or Hindus may get a better chance.
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^ How welcome are the pakis in these countries? They would come at cheaper rates as compared to Indians
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^^^ When Pakistanis were seen as prone to radicalization, UAE banned or reduced work visas for Pakistanis in favor of Indians. Indians, and in particular Indian Muslims were not seen to radicalize.
The best thing for India in this regard would be for jihadi fervor to sweep Pakistan.
The best thing for India in this regard would be for jihadi fervor to sweep Pakistan.
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^ intrigued by the 'When'. Has the situation changed since..
'Beggar' pakis are not welcome to Saudi.
Recent news was about KSA cutting down 90% of the authorised pilgrimage agencies of Pakistan.
'Beggar' pakis are not welcome to Saudi.
Recent news was about KSA cutting down 90% of the authorised pilgrimage agencies of Pakistan.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Hence, it should be done quietly. Let Israel use private agencies to recruit non Muslims from India. Israel is only too aware of how radicaized some ofSachin wrote: ↑07 Nov 2023 12:12 There could be some minor repurcussions. Arab sheikdoms may try to armtwist India by saying Indian expats in The Gelf would be asked to go back to India. In secular states like KL there would be a loud hue & cry, especially as the RoP folks and the commies now pretty much grovel in front of the Arabs and consider them as mai-baap. And if Israel does want Indian labour; they may also not prefer them from RoP. RoL, or Hindus may get a better chance.
our peacefuls can be. Govt can simply say there is no restriction on Indians working anywhere and we don't monitor.
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“Beared” “Cuntries” “Voilent”.
If he writes like this, no wonder he gets rejected. In this day and age, not using a spell checker speaks volumes…
No doubt Pakis get rejected, but I strongly suspect the quality of the average abdul has decreased significantly as well.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
Israel defense minister: 'Gaza is the biggest terrorist base ever built by man'
Hyberbole. Pakistan is #1 - biggest and oldest terror base. Will grant that Gaza is bigger than Canada.
Hyberbole. Pakistan is #1 - biggest and oldest terror base. Will grant that Gaza is bigger than Canada.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
From SM and live conversations I had, I don’t think Hamas / Palestinian goal is 2-state solution. They & their supporters are unanimous and adamant in going back to the 1948 rejectionist position, demanding that the whole of undivided Palestine (from the river to the sea) should be theirs, since they never agreed to the UN partition mandate in 1948.Deans wrote: ↑06 Nov 2023 09:34 Hamas's objective in starting this, was to bring Palestinian statehood to the forefront - it has bene put on the backburner, as the various Arab regimes were in the process of normalizing ties with Israel.
Hamas could only hope to this by incurring as many civilian casualties as possible. In that regard, Israel is playing to their hands.
50,000 dead Palestinians is a small price if their get their state. One way or the other it does not affect us, since we have always supported a 2 state solution.
They are convinced that justice is on their side, and they will eventually win, as the world turns hostile to Israel due to the deaths in the bombing. They believe that sooner or later, public opinion in US will shift in their favor and the GoTUS will have no choice but to change its stance.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
This YT provides more on the ground videos of what is happening. The tunnels in gaza are being targeted, a US aircraft carrier is parked next to Gaza shores, Blinken has issued a last warning to Iran to not to get involved, Israeli forces are targeting the underground tunnels. BTW tunnels are a definite gift of China to Hamas, such sophistication of concrete tiles, ventilation, etc are by China construction inc of PLA. Israel has a raised an all-women 72 unit (in islam if you are killed by a woman then you don't get the privileged 72). Many gazans are fleeing to Egypt. Jordan is very clear they do not want the palestinians. Puki Fazlur Diesel Rehman and Haniya are pyare dost hath milaakar pose in Qatar. The Iranians are rushing to Putin and making some deal.
US is packing the place with more ammunition (Aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, Anti missile defense) and men and these don't return without some war being waged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXvQnk0ZRMU
US is packing the place with more ammunition (Aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines, Anti missile defense) and men and these don't return without some war being waged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXvQnk0ZRMU
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
I don't think we should lose sight of the fact that elements within Israeli government including Netanyahu enabled or at least looked the other way on Hamas's rise for quite a while because it eroded the legitimacy of PNA and the two state solution. Now it's come back to bite them big time. I say this because it will color how Netanyahu progresses with the rest of the war.
What this conflict has ensured however is that the Two state proposal is dead and buried for another couple of decades at least.
Imo the war the Hamas/Palestinians are trying to win is no longer on the battlefield but on the TV screens and social media ( A bit like North Vietnam)
If they can convince enough Americans and Europeans that change is needed then it will start eroding the absolute support Israel currently gets.
It will not happen this year or even in 5 years but a similar conflict 10 years down the line may see a very different response from the West
What this conflict has ensured however is that the Two state proposal is dead and buried for another couple of decades at least.
Imo the war the Hamas/Palestinians are trying to win is no longer on the battlefield but on the TV screens and social media ( A bit like North Vietnam)
If they can convince enough Americans and Europeans that change is needed then it will start eroding the absolute support Israel currently gets.
It will not happen this year or even in 5 years but a similar conflict 10 years down the line may see a very different response from the West
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
I think Israel will elect another Ehud Barack type Prime Minister, realizing that the Likud policy doesn’t work. The problem will be that a huge Palestinian faction that invokes the Quranic treaty of Hudaybiyyah, saying that it is at best a truce that they are agreeing to - basically what Chetak posted above. Hostilities will resume whenever the Palestinians feel fit. At the failure of peace talks, the US/European Left will slink away. Count on them to put zero pressure on the Palestinians to accept a reasonable compromise. Israel will lurch back to the right. At the next cycle of violence, it will be a repeat with the Left calling for the appeasement of terrorists.
If a clean energy transition occurs, in a decade Arab countries will have to live by earning their money, not simply by pumping oil out of the ground. Islamic extremism cannot coexist with that commercial, technological economy. That may cause a change.
If a clean energy transition occurs, in a decade Arab countries will have to live by earning their money, not simply by pumping oil out of the ground. Islamic extremism cannot coexist with that commercial, technological economy. That may cause a change.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
This YT addresses the question whether Hamas is finished?
Jaipur Dialogues: How Israel Checkmated Hamas - Aadi Achint on Israel vs Hamas with Sanjay Dixit
// some interesting maps are shown especially Gaza strip. The Israelis are pin-point bombing the tunnels and are using sponge bombs. There is a "lighting map" of Israel and Gaza (no lights here). Some interesting stats are being discussed.
BTW the US is on a spree of air strikes on Syria (IRGC and others)
Western news outlest like AP, Reuters have ground reporters some of them kissed on the cheek by Hamas leaders.
Jaipur Dialogues: How Israel Checkmated Hamas - Aadi Achint on Israel vs Hamas with Sanjay Dixit
// some interesting maps are shown especially Gaza strip. The Israelis are pin-point bombing the tunnels and are using sponge bombs. There is a "lighting map" of Israel and Gaza (no lights here). Some interesting stats are being discussed.
BTW the US is on a spree of air strikes on Syria (IRGC and others)
Western news outlest like AP, Reuters have ground reporters some of them kissed on the cheek by Hamas leaders.
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
My view (I've lived in Iran and Turkey and done business across the middle east) is that there's a difference in Arab street slogans and what they knowKLNMurthy wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 04:47
From SM and live conversations I had, I don’t think Hamas / Palestinian goal is 2-state solution. They & their supporters are unanimous and adamant in going back to the 1948 rejectionist position, demanding that the whole of undivided Palestine (from the river to the sea) should be theirs, since they never agreed to the UN partition mandate in 1948.
They are convinced that justice is on their side, and they will eventually win, as the world turns hostile to Israel due to the deaths in the bombing. They believe that sooner or later, public opinion in US will shift in their favor and the GoTUS will have no choice but to change its stance.
to be the reality. All those shouting death to America every week outside the mosque, would not want to ban McDonalds.
A solution close to the 2 state one was agreed in the Oslo agreements. The current Israeli govt (some of whose members are as extremist as Hamas)
has no intention of doing that and their goal has been to make 2 states impossible. My sense is that there will be pressure on Israel to make real concessions to the Palestinians and come close to what the Oslo accords envisaged (if not a 2 state solution).
Re: Hamas attack.on Israel. Oct 2023
AkshaySG wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023 18:43 I don't think we should lose sight of the fact that elements within Israeli government including Netanyahu enabled or at least looked the other way on Hamas's rise for quite a while because it eroded the legitimacy of PNA and the two state solution. Now it's come back to bite them big time. I say this because it will color how Netanyahu progresses with the rest of the war.
What this conflict has ensured however is that the Two state proposal is dead and buried for another couple of decades at least.
Imo the war the Hamas/Palestinians are trying to win is no longer on the battlefield but on the TV screens and social media ( A bit like North Vietnam)
If they can convince enough Americans and Europeans that change is needed then it will start eroding the absolute support Israel currently gets.
It will not happen this year or even in 5 years but a similar conflict 10 years down the line may see a very different response from the West
Akshay ji,
The insidious rise of global communism has enabled targeted narrative building and the active foregrounding of the jihadi forces and with the connivance of the subverted academics and the lapdog media to consciously background israel and degrade its support base
The successful storming of citadel amrika by the commies via the biden coup and the capture of hitherto right wing resources has triggered an almost global domino effect that has taken root in the EU and UK leading to the side lining of right wing safe spaces and resources that had once ensured a sobering effect on balancing the onslaught of the commies
just look at the narrative that is forcefully being driven in India to get an idea of what is happening in most countries that are with israel, along with the tone and tenor of the UN resolutions
What is happening now is the effort to dismantle, isolate, subvert, re-educate, reboot and embed the jihadi ideology, in a bid to recreate a secularized version of the ummah.
This is why the undermining and eventual replacement of leaders like Putin, Modi, Netanyahu etc is a major objective of such forces.....
That is also why the US and other UK, EU borders have been opened up, especially to illegal and undocumented migration.
It is a demographic onslaught to pack and nurture divisive vote banks, the very vote banks that threw up jihadi scum like AOC, rashida tlaib and ilhan omar.
It's also the fastest way to seize power by using deliberately undermined democratic processes, like what is happening in India with the beedis in bengal and in assam and the rohingiyas in dilli, hyderabad, and cashmere, not to talk about the happenings in KER and TN...........
According to a new report, at least 200 american colleges and universities illegally withheld information on approximately $13 billion in undisclosed donations from foreign regimes.
Is the ongoing anti israel campus "rage" in the US being fuelled by middle eastern money, with the commies providing the cover fire.....