Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

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"Modi must be defeated because Western powers don't want a Modi3.0 since he will ensure that India becomes a super power so it will make sure he is defeated, RSS is also against Modi, so we must hope that Modi loses" Senior journalist Mani.

This is one reason why we must vote for Modi and only for Modi.....




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chetak wrote: 08 Apr 2024 16:12 "Modi must be defeated because Western powers don't want a Modi3.0 since he will ensure that India becomes a super power so it will make sure he is defeated, RSS is also against Modi, so we must hope that Modi loses" Senior journalist Mani.

This is one reason why we must vote for Modi and only for Modi.....


WATCH VIDEO

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Apologies for the tamil only audio
Modi must lose otherwise he will make India a superpower? What kind of a joker is this "senior journalist" Mani?
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and now we know why pinarayi vijayan, the KER CM, was objecting to DD screening ‘#TheKeralaStory’



The #Idukki diocese of Syro-Malabar #Catholic Church has directed all Sunday class students from classes 10 to 12 to watch the film ‘#TheKeralaStory’



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chetak wrote: 08 Apr 2024 11:51
Yagnasri wrote: 07 Apr 2024 22:27 21st-century class war ideas.
Yagnasri garu,

has anyone understood or investigated or can explain the disproportionate and malignant influence that yecch-ury and his commie ecosystem have over the dimwit .....
CPI and CPI(M) are the tools of the Indian establishment and external controllers of that. CPI(M) slightly fell out as it stood with China against Bharat earlier. Since INC and the Chinese communist party now seem to have some understanding with some MOU or Agreement the CPI(M) as the main supporter of China in Bharat will enjoy a very close relationship with INC and the family. Plus Yechiri is part of Lootian/Khan Market gang for decades. That is also there.
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Sharing some interesting bits. There is a list circulating in social media alleging that it is the leaked survey done by Congress. As per the list BJP alone getting 345 seats, total NDA seats is 408. It generally matches with the various opinion polls released recently.
Link given below.

https://twitter.com/addheeraj/status/17 ... IkQMw&s=19

Have a look at @sreeramjvc in X about the posts on BJP 's growth in Tamil Nadu, Telangana and Odisha. He made most of the predictions much earlier and now they matches with the latest opinion polls. Almost unbelievable growth in vote share for BJP in these states !! Southern states +Odisha and West Bengal are considered by many as
the sole significant anti BJP front, now BJP is conquering these states too. Link below.

https://twitter.com/sreeramjvc/status/1 ... 7OmEg&s=19



In Kerala, @savvyasaachi in X is saying that former cinema star Suresh Gopi is leading in Thrissur by 2 percent in a sample survey done by his team. He says Christians are also thinking of voting for BJP. But Cong and CPM can work together to defeat him. Several people in the field are saying that vote transfer between Cong and CPM unlikely or very limited this time as both are eager to maximise their seats. He says in 4 places it is very close triangular contest and BJP likely to be in second place. Several polls suggest 1 to 4 for BJP. Kerala is considered next to impossible for BJP and from now onwards BJP will be starting to grow. Link below.

https://twitter.com/savvyasaachi/status ... eS2Ug&s=19
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prahaar wrote: 08 Apr 2024 13:57 A lot of what can pass as incompetence can also be malicious. Not entirely for the reasons (we mortals) feel are reasonable or achievable. Kasab or his handlers knew that 26/11 will not result in Ghazwa but that did not deter them for brutally murdering hundreds of people. Similarly, what we pass off as RaGa incompetence or his handlers' lack of understanding is not advanced state of incompetence but malice. The hatred or anger regarding Bharat in general and Hindu culture is conspicuous.
Yeah you sort of have a point. Basically the western deep state is a slightly sophisticated Paki personality that will go down in time due to hubris. Raga is just a expendable pawn in the game. Lucky for us that we have the leadership of MAD in this point of our history to save us from these Pakis. :D
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Yagnasri wrote:CPI(M) slightly fell out as it stood with China against Bharat earlier.
CPI were Russian stooge, where as its off-split CPI(M) was a Chinese stooge. Ultimately both were not very pro-Indian from the very outset. But how CPI(M) became the stronger of the two perhaps needs more analysis. CPI is actually the first to be formed, but its off-shoot actually grew bigger. Today's CPI is more of a poor joke with jobless husband & wife duo Daniel & Annie Raja just loitering around aimlessly.
Plus Yechiri is part of Lootian/Khan Market gang for decades. That is also there.
There could be some more benefits which Yechuri may be providing for INC. Carrot also has been in New Delhi for quite some time, but does not have much networking skills. Carrot is supposed to be seen in New Delhi markets with bag to buy groceries. Not because he is simple & humble, but because he has nothing else to do in New Delhi.
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williams wrote: 08 Apr 2024 21:15
prahaar wrote: 08 Apr 2024 13:57 A lot of what can pass as incompetence can also be malicious. Not entirely for the reasons (we mortals) feel are reasonable or achievable. Kasab or his handlers knew that 26/11 will not result in Ghazwa but that did not deter them for brutally murdering hundreds of people. Similarly, what we pass off as RaGa incompetence or his handlers' lack of understanding is not advanced state of incompetence but malice. The hatred or anger regarding Bharat in general and Hindu culture is conspicuous.
Yeah you sort of have a point. Basically the western deep state is a slightly sophisticated Paki personality that will go down in time due to hubris. Raga is just a expendable pawn in the game. Lucky for us that we have the leadership of MAD in this point of our history to save us from these Pakis. :D

williams ji,


The dimwit's increasingly toxic utterances in public and his open frustration at things not going his way because his own people do not believe him or even trust him to be able to deliver on seats. People not willing to contest on congi tickets, and others using ludicrous excuses to leave the party have unhinged him. khadge is as useless as tits on a bull, and venugopal is no better, he has no trusted advisers to watch out for him as all his high profile well wishers have been forced to leave the party by vested interests keen to feed his paranoia and have their day in the sun ....

folks like scindia, deora, rpn singh, jitendra singh et al have all moved on due to the machinations of a few who have created a political moat to control him by reducing access to him.

he may be afraid that the BIF will abandon him, whereas in actual fact, they already have :mrgreen:
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One more post about Andhra and the utterly inexplicable behavior of BJP central leadership. Perhaps some sharp BRFites can confirm why this alliance has been forged w/ TDP, as I still do not get this, as it seemingly looks like self-destructive behavior. Some context+points:

- TDP is just a periyarist, caste-supremacist outfit masquerading as a political party. They have two main mouthpieces, both of them are extremely intolerant of BJP & Hindutva or even nationalism, champion left/communism.
- Despite forging the "alliance", they continue to either ignore or spew venom against Modiji, and are busy promoting Congress, Rahul Gandhi and his great manifesto.
- Not long ago, CBN sent some of his close confidantes to BJP. It has now become apparent that these people had heavily funded Congress in the recent Karnataka polls while staying in BJP. Yet, these people were rewarded by BJP central leadership w/ MP tickets. At the same time, many folks who were party loyalists have been sidelined and denied opportunities.
- BJP central leadership appoints CBN's relative as party prez. She has turned state BJP into a puppet of TDP. Rather than grow the party like it was done in Telangana/TN, she has surrendered the party to CBN, who is once again running the show.
- There is continuous mockery of BJP and esp Madhavi Latha is now a target on SM by TDP's supporters. Why do that ? They can't even support BJP when it faces MIM, so where is the "alliance" ?
- Not sure as to who will benefit from this alliance - TDP has decided who from BJP needs to participate in Andhra MP elections, and has ensured many upcoming leaders like Swami Paripoornananda are denied tickets and stalled the growth of the party for foreseeable future.

It appears that BJP leadership fell into a trap set for it by Congress-TDP combine to stall the growth of BJP in Andhra for foreseeable future, by playing to their obsession of "400 seats" and inviting them to an "alliance". But I could be entirely wrong and there could be some grand strategy at play that is not overtly evident.
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Congoons have decided to go full scorched earth this time without holding anything back. Their manifesto and RaGa's statement about wealth survey and (forced) redistribution is straight up Pol-Pot and Mao level communist insanity. RaGa has become like one of those perverted movie villains who, after getting rejected by the object of his desire decides to kill her instead of letting her be with someone else. He has decided to punish the Indian people for rejecting him multiple times by destroying the country if he can. The INC always figures out a way to plumb new depths right when you think they have sunk as low as they can. Truly evil party.
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OmkarC wrote: 09 Apr 2024 11:38 One more post about Andhra and the utterly inexplicable behavior of BJP central leadership. Perhaps some sharp BRFites can confirm why this alliance has been forged w/ TDP, as I still do not get this, as it seemingly looks like self-destructive behavior. Some context+points:

- TDP is just a periyarist, caste-supremacist outfit masquerading as a political party. They have two main mouthpieces, both of them are extremely intolerant of BJP & Hindutva or even nationalism, champion left/communism.
- Despite forging the "alliance", they continue to either ignore or spew venom against Modiji, and are busy promoting Congress, Rahul Gandhi and his great manifesto.
- Not long ago, CBN sent some of his close confidantes to BJP. It has now become apparent that these people had heavily funded Congress in the recent Karnataka polls while staying in BJP. Yet, these people were rewarded by BJP central leadership w/ MP tickets. At the same time, many folks who were party loyalists have been sidelined and denied opportunities.
- BJP central leadership appoints CBN's relative as party prez. She has turned state BJP into a puppet of TDP. Rather than grow the party like it was done in Telangana/TN, she has surrendered the party to CBN, who is once again running the show.
- There is continuous mockery of BJP and esp Madhavi Latha is now a target on SM by TDP's supporters. Why do that ? They can't even support BJP when it faces MIM, so where is the "alliance" ?
- Not sure as to who will benefit from this alliance - TDP has decided who from BJP needs to participate in Andhra MP elections, and has ensured many upcoming leaders like Swami Paripoornananda are denied tickets and stalled the growth of the party for foreseeable future.

It appears that BJP leadership fell into a trap set for it by Congress-TDP combine to stall the growth of BJP in Andhra for foreseeable future, by playing to their obsession of "400 seats" and inviting them to an "alliance". But I could be entirely wrong and there could be some grand strategy at play that is not overtly evident.

OmkarC ji,


she is neither his friend, supporter or well wisher.

she has been chosen for a reason and that reason is family enmity. She knows better than most, how to cut this snake in the grass down to size.

naidu is old and toothless and he is desperate to settle his next generation, and that makes him vulnerable, just like onion in MAH. The only person who can help him achieve this goal is Modiji and Modiji is neither the forgiving nor the forgetting kind

the BJP waited until jagan went after him just to show him his aukat and that upset the naidu supporters. There are many in AP who are not naidu supporters, so no one gives a jack about him being jailed

the small rise of naidu will keep jagan in check and all the more willing to work with the center, even if it is only to spite naidu

the BJP owes this creep naidu nothing and everyone in AP/TG knows that very well. They may like it of leave it, because he matters little, and moreover, the center is certainly not banking on naidu but it is the other way around, with jagan out to finish him
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Here's my two cents on the AP scenario:

BJP's vote share in last elections was less than 1% and it is highly unlikely to improve on that if it goes all alone, with the uninspiring local leaders it has. The central BJP leaders are viewed by most AP people as having cheated AP post bifurcation. So, even the central leaders won't be able to inspire people of AP to vote for BJP. The alliance with TDP may help them win a few seats in Loksabha and assembly. Otherwise, they have no chance of winning from anywhere in AP either for assembly or Loksabha.

For TDP, this time it is a net-negative to have an alliance with BJP. It will lose the small percentage of Muslim votes it now gets. Its cadre are also unhappy with the alliance. TDP needs alliance with Pawan Kalyan's Janasena that had some 5-6% vote share in the previous elections. I suspect Pawan Kalyan wanted to include the BJP in the alliance and TDP had no option but to agree because it desperately wanted an alliance with Janasena. Janasena could have gotten more seats for itself, but it sacrificed its share to BJP.

In the end, BJP is the only gainer in this alliance. Sure, there was opposition from TDP for BJP clowns like GVL Narasimha Rao, Somu Veerraju and Vishnuvardhan Reddy, as they are seen as coverts of YCP in BJP. I don't think there will be any transfer of votes from BJP to TDP. TDP to BJP vote transfer will happen from TDP voters who hate YCP more than the BJP. Others may just sit out. It remains to be seen how much vote transfer happens between TDP and Janasena. The main communities that support these two parties were against each other in the past.
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nachiket wrote: 09 Apr 2024 12:10 Congoons have decided to go full scorched earth this time without holding anything back. Their manifesto and RaGa's statement about wealth survey and (forced) redistribution is straight up Pol-Pot and Mao level communist insanity. RaGa has become like one of those perverted movie villains who, after getting rejected by the object of his desire decides to kill her instead of letting her be with someone else. He has decided to punish the Indian people for rejecting him multiple times by destroying the country if he can. The INC always figures out a way to plumb new depths right when you think they have sunk as low as they can. Truly evil party.

nachiket ji,

this has direct parallels to the woke and malignant BLM, the LGBTQ and caste led narratives in the US . Their state sponsored influx of 7-10 million undocumented aliens into the US and pappu's fascination with peering into the malignant sino naxal abyss, along with his high hopes of empowering his jihadi vote banks by preferring them above the majority vote bank is a pipe dream and the push back will consume him and his ilk

people are jumping the congi ship not because of the perceived poor electoral prospects but the bleak future they see with abrahamic cults dominating the political, socioeconomic, and NATSEC landscapes. That means that the congis in the power ecosystem are aware of some things that have not yet been made public but has probably been shared privately as "the way forward"

that may explain the BJP's "ab ki baar 400 paar" and their thinly veiled intent to strike at the very root of the constitution to sink any and all thoughts of such cultural and civilizational mayhem being imposed on the people

where exactly does the soreass controlled BIF expect to get its "majority" from, unless extreme street violence is an integral part of their winning strategy to wrest control over parliament and, BTW, isn't that exactly what the unhinged dimwit dynast is advocating in his public speeches, ably aided and abetted by the offshore naxal presstitute media like the guardian
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a_bharat wrote: 09 Apr 2024 13:20 Here's my two cents on the AP scenario:

BJP's vote share in last elections was less than 1% and it is highly unlikely to improve on that if it goes all alone, with the uninspiring local leaders it has. The central BJP leaders are viewed by most AP people as having cheated AP post bifurcation. So, even the central leaders won't be able to inspire people of AP to vote for BJP. The alliance with TDP may help them win a few seats in Loksabha and assembly. Otherwise, they have no chance of winning from anywhere in AP either for assembly or Loksabha.

For TDP, this time it is a net-negative to have an alliance with BJP. It will lose the small percentage of Muslim votes it now gets. Its cadre are also unhappy with the alliance. TDP needs alliance with Pawan Kalyan's Janasena that had some 5-6% vote share in the previous elections. I suspect Pawan Kalyan wanted to include the BJP in the alliance and TDP had no option but to agree because it desperately wanted an alliance with Janasena. Janasena could have gotten more seats for itself, but it sacrificed its share to BJP.

In the end, BJP is the only gainer in this alliance. Sure, there was opposition from TDP for BJP clowns like GVL Narasimha Rao, Somu Veerraju and Vishnuvardhan Reddy, as they are seen as coverts of YCP in BJP. I don't think there will be any transfer of votes from BJP to TDP. TDP to BJP vote transfer will happen from TDP voters who hate YCP more than the BJP. Others may just sit out. It remains to be seen how much vote transfer happens between TDP and Janasena. The main communities that support these two parties were against each other in the past.



a_bharat ji,

no one is looking for vote transfer.

the BJP is looking to keep a chunk of LS seats from consolidating against them by dividing them into less harmless and manageable blocks

jagan wants to throw naidu in the water to drown him, and modi wants to throw naidu into liquid oxygen. Either way, naidu is done for .... “The Liquid won't let him live; the Oxygen won't let him die.”

who was it who famously said: if we don't hang together, we will hang separately :mrgreen:

It's so much easier to hunt your prey if the herd is scattered
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a_bharat wrote: 09 Apr 2024 13:20 Here's my two cents on the AP scenario:

BJP's vote share in last elections was less than 1% and it is highly unlikely to improve on that if it goes all alone, with the uninspiring local leaders it has. The central BJP leaders are viewed by most AP people as having cheated AP post bifurcation. So, even the central leaders won't be able to inspire people of AP to vote for BJP. The alliance with TDP may help them win a few seats in Loksabha and assembly. Otherwise, they have no chance of winning from anywhere in AP either for assembly or Loksabha.

For TDP, this time it is a net-negative to have an alliance with BJP. It will lose the small percentage of Muslim votes it now gets. Its cadre are also unhappy with the alliance. TDP needs alliance with Pawan Kalyan's Janasena that had some 5-6% vote share in the previous elections. I suspect Pawan Kalyan wanted to include the BJP in the alliance and TDP had no option but to agree because it desperately wanted an alliance with Janasena. Janasena could have gotten more seats for itself, but it sacrificed its share to BJP.
In 2019 there was just a 3% vote share difference between YSRCP & TDP+Jansena. Even a small swing against YSR will bring several seats for the
NDA.
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Deans wrote: 09 Apr 2024 16:11
a_bharat wrote: 09 Apr 2024 13:20 Here's my two cents on the AP scenario:

BJP's vote share in last elections was less than 1% and it is highly unlikely to improve on that if it goes all alone, with the uninspiring local leaders it has. The central BJP leaders are viewed by most AP people as having cheated AP post bifurcation. So, even the central leaders won't be able to inspire people of AP to vote for BJP. The alliance with TDP may help them win a few seats in Loksabha and assembly. Otherwise, they have no chance of winning from anywhere in AP either for assembly or Loksabha.

For TDP, this time it is a net-negative to have an alliance with BJP. It will lose the small percentage of Muslim votes it now gets. Its cadre are also unhappy with the alliance. TDP needs alliance with Pawan Kalyan's Janasena that had some 5-6% vote share in the previous elections. I suspect Pawan Kalyan wanted to include the BJP in the alliance and TDP had no option but to agree because it desperately wanted an alliance with Janasena. Janasena could have gotten more seats for itself, but it sacrificed its share to BJP.
In 2019 there was just a 3% vote share difference between YSRCP & TDP+Jansena. Even a small swing against YSR will bring several seats for the NDA.

Deans ji,


if naidu makes a healthy headway in getting a significant number of seats, he will revert to his default position of blackmailing the center, if he can, even if he has to break the alliance and join up with others like it happened in MAH. He is testing the waters in the 2024 LS elections whereas he may actually be looking at the next assembly elections which is due very soon, to consolidate. The BJP is out of contention in both these elections .... His first order of business will be to recoup the family treasury and salt away enough for the many forthcoming generations

he does not differ in any appreciable way from jagan, and both are equally venal and self serving and will make use of any means to climb the greasy pole of power. naidu made the almost fatal mistake of underestimating Modiji, whereas jagan did not.

One thinks that if the results in 2024 are as expected by Modiji, naidu may well be sidelined permanently. If you are foolhardy enough to strike at the king, then you had better not miss

over the years, two significant issues were deliberately played up in AP by jagan, one overtly and the other covertly ...

alleged "special status" for the state and Hindutwa, and both were successfully pitched as emotive and touching the core of telgu pride

there was no way that the BJP could have breached these twin concerns because jagan and the very active BIF had made them both as cultural matters of contention and also pitched them as political points of departure ....

that is why there is so much of hatred for the BJP in AP because they are being blamed for everything and those sentiments are carved in stone. Another reason for the TDP's hatred for the BJP is that Modiji "did not come to naidu's assistance" when jagan kicked him in the nuts and sent him to the government holiday resort in the rajamahendravaram central prison in the east godavari district. How did the TDP clowns even expect any help from Modiji after what naidu had done

If there is a third term, then jagan may get his comeuppance and be served his just deserts. He is as divisive as the dravidiyas, and as separatist in his outlook as the worst of the dravidiyas but he is better behaved than the beedi smoking dravidiya criminals who lead the rag tag remnants of the ltte.

The BJP is fishing in murky waters but then, they are the ones who control the tides for now, but unlike all the others, they are playing a very different game of "ab ki baar 400 paar"
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chetak wrote: 08 Apr 2024 19:02 and now we know why pinarayi vijayan, the KER CM, was objecting to DD screening ‘#TheKeralaStory’



The #Idukki diocese of Syro-Malabar #Catholic Church has directed all Sunday class students from classes 10 to 12 to watch the film ‘#TheKeralaStory’



[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GKo9xPga4AA ... =large[img]



and now .....


After Idukki diocese, Syro Malabar Catholic Church’s Thamarassery diocese screens The Kerala Story, says nothing wrong in screening movie that isn’t banned



https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 0-amp.html

Amid criticism from the Congress and the CPI against the national broadcaster Doordarshan for screening the Bollywood movie, the KCYM unit of the Thalassery archdiocese sought to know why they were scared.

"Dear politicians, why are you scared? To whom are you trying to appease?" said an FB post of the KCYM unit of Thalassery archdiocese, apparently taking a dig at the Congress and the CPI.

It also congratulated the Idukki diocese for screening the movie and announced that the film would be screened at various parts of the archdiocese.

As news of the screening of the controversial movie hit headlines, the Idukki Diocese on Monday came out with an explanation, claiming that the movie was shown to "create awareness about love relationships and its consequences and dangers".

Fr Jins Karakkat, the media in-charge of the Idukki diocese, said they conduct an intensive training programme for children every year during vacation.

Specific topics are selected for the programme, and books are prepared for it, he said.
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SRajesh wrote: 07 Apr 2024 15:04 To Chetakji and all the Mualanars: A question
The West especially certain EU countries taking potshots at our Democracy Yada Yada
Dont you guys think that a times has come for Frank Speak by EAM ( He does give back no doubt but I mean this with a proper historical backgorund)
Say for example:
1. Germans : to remind them that in our country Majoritarinism is not of the kind that was practised in Germany between 1930-46 regardless of Islamic onslaught and destruction waged on the majority populace they have not gone for a Final Solution a la German type.
2. Sweden : Yes our trade with Russia is not tinged with Blood Money and nor are we using it for keep the populace gullible ( far cry in the present Digital world) and our stand on reaming nuetral in the Rus-Uk Conflict is based on principles and not on Trade
3. Ukraine : probably the same
AS far as old Colonialist are concerned the less said is the better!!
And lastly to Uncle
more than 11 of the Indian Kids Murdered on Sleepy Joe's watch(someone correct me if I am wrong in the count) and question the Foreign Office Sparewheel to answer on this than on a Level Playing field 1000's of miles away

SRajesh ji,

Majoritarianism has always existed the world over and is the natural order of things, but for well known reasons it was never such a big problem elsewhere as is wilfully being made out to be in India where it has malignantly bloomed with a cancerous life of its own. This is because the Hindu majority has awakened and are beginning to assert themselves, fighting for their subverted rights and civilizational dignity that had been so callously snatched away and sacrificed willy-nilly at the altar of fake sickularism, as manipulated by the machinations of the departing britshits and their padres who even interfered in the writing of the Indian constitutions using paid for puppets to do their bidding.

This Hindu majoritarianism upsets the order that the then super powers had long decreed, post WWII, in a geopolitical world as seen by them at the time. The Awakened Hindu and Hindutwa is a black swan and they know enough to fear it upsetting their fragile world of carefully constructed geopolitical hierarchy and the associated privileges that flow with such an exalted and self given status (the security council is one such example of a carefully constructed geopolitical hierarchy) It is only the Hindu majoritarianism that is specifically the one that upsets all of them, not sunni or shia or sikh, or christian or malsi or fish or frog or chicken or even kangaroo majoritarianism because it is the confident and assertive Modiji and the incomparably erudite Jayshankarji who is showing them up, every which way they turn, forcing them to look into their own mirrors and see their own sanctimonious and ugly visage

Majoritarianism is also new stick that the woke commies, jihadis, and naxals have conjured up to beat us with, and "inclusivity" comes with its own sell by date and a very short shelf life.

it took the amrikis quite a few decades to even elect their first catholic president JFK and now their second catholic president joe biden is in the WH

forget obummer, almost all of the rest were WASPs (excluding Martin Van Buren, 1837-1841) and JFK probably embodied the centuries of protestant-catholic warfare in europe, and one that continues to this very day.

What happened to majoritarianism there, specially when no one carefully even mentions it in other contexts ...

and how many blacks in the EU parliament ...


the "great" germans were led like sheep to the slaughter, not once but twice, in the short space of just half a century to their own destruction and yet, it is the germans who know best the the Indian civilization, culture and the history in all its complexities, majesty and its undoubted glory and it shames them that some kaalu civilization had overtaken them in terms of knowledge, culture, philosophy, art, religion, literature, math, medicine, economics and most importantly LANGUAGE -- SANSKRIT (which caused the britshits make the fabrication of the fake and malicious aryan invasion theory and its consequences in false narrative of the so called "dravidiyas" and their hate filled imaginary nadu) so very many centuries before they clambered down naked from the tree tops where they lived eating insects and slept to escape the wild animals that stalked them

europeans are hypocritical of anyone who has ever been colonized because they are all deeply racist, as well as, supremacist. Does this even begin to explain why portugal and so many other EU countries import so many black footballers to play in their national clubs and national teams

A former "colony" rising after 300 odd years (give or take) of subjugation, deprivation, loot, and pillage, to be in a position to overtake their economies, is a nightmare to all of europeans, especially when the rise has taken only 70 odd years without any "marshall plan" to prop us up. They don't even have the basic culture of being grateful to acknowledge the millions of Indian soldiers who fought for them in both the world wars

Why would India even expect anything from such low life barbarians

EU is a failed experiment because of fiercely competing sub national interests which have otherwise been enemies for centuries and the huge free loading culture that goes on in the name of EU law and parliament, and also, the euro is a failed currency and brexit was a fatal body blow to the EU, a gut wrenchingly humiliating slap administered publicly by their ancient enemy, and all the more insulting, because it put the stamp of failure on their EU foreheads for all the world to see.

If the russians weren't around for WWII, the whole of europe would be speaking in guttural german and polishing german jackboots for a living but the russians are feared today because of what they did to the germans when they fought and pushed them back and crushed them like never before and no one in europe is happy about the amrikis poking the russian bear, especially when the amrikis live in another continent far away and that distance keeps them relatively safe

The nordics are in a silly class of their own. No one gives a crap about them or their opinions and hence the permanent home that they have found for themselves in all the "peace committees" and "conflict negotiation teams" and remember the absolutely evil part that they played in sri lanka during the ltte war

they have made several concerted bids to gate crash the disturbances in the Indian NE in the form of "conflict negotiators" but were rebuffed each and every time


About "the Indian Kids Murdered on Sleepy Joe's watch" I confess and also regret that I do not have all the info to take an informed position on the matter
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Girgit is terrified and probably want to murder someone.
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SRajesh wrote: 07 Apr 2024 15:04 To Chetakji and all the Mualanars: A question
The West especially certain EU countries taking potshots at our Democracy Yada Yada
Dont you guys think that a times has come for Frank Speak by EAM ( He does give back no doubt but I mean this with a proper historical backgorund)
Say for example:
1. Germans : to remind them that in our country Majoritarinism is not of the kind that was practised in Germany between 1930-46 regardless of Islamic onslaught and destruction waged on the majority populace they have not gone for a Final Solution a la German type.
2. Sweden : Yes our trade with Russia is not tinged with Blood Money and nor are we using it for keep the populace gullible ( far cry in the present Digital world) and our stand on reaming nuetral in the Rus-Uk Conflict is based on principles and not on Trade
3. Ukraine : probably the same
AS far as old Colonialist are concerned the less said is the better!!
And lastly to Uncle more than 11 of the Indian Kids Murdered on Sleepy Joe's watch(someone correct me if I am wrong in the count) and question the Foreign Office Sparewheel to answer on this than on a Level Playing field 1000's of miles away




SRajesh ji,

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chetak wrote: 09 Apr 2024 18:15
Deans ji,

if naidu makes a healthy headway in getting a significant number of seats, he will revert to his default position of blackmailing the center, if he can, even if he has to break the alliance and join up with others like it happened in MAH. He is testing the waters in the 2024 LS elections whereas he may actually be looking at the next assembly elections which is due very soon, to consolidate. The BJP is out of contention in both these elections .... His first order of business will be to recoup the family treasury and salt away enough for the many forthcoming generations

he does not differ in any appreciable way from jagan, and both are equally venal and self serving and will make use of any means to climb the greasy pole of power. naidu made the almost fatal mistake of underestimating Modiji, whereas jagan did not.

One thinks that if the results in 2024 are as expected by Modiji, naidu may well be sidelined permanently. If you are foolhardy enough to strike at the king, then you had better not miss
I agree with your assessment. However, when Andhra has 25 seats (compared to 52 earlier) TDP can at best hope for a dozen and if BJP on its own
has 272+, he will not be a threat. He is also not a long term threat, unlike Jagan - who will be a threat (backed by BIF forces) if he gets 25 seats.
I think the BJPs strategy in all states where they are not the top 2 parties, is to have a strong challenger, so that the ruler does not have delusions
of being able to have his way at the centre (e.g. KCR in Telengana). Where it is the no 2 party, it's in the BJP's interest to undermine the no 3 (e.g. West Bengal or Odisha, or tie up with the no 3, as in Karnataka).
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Deans wrote: 10 Apr 2024 08:11
chetak wrote: 09 Apr 2024 18:15
Deans ji,

if naidu makes a healthy headway in getting a significant number of seats, he will revert to his default position of blackmailing the center, if he can, even if he has to break the alliance and join up with others like it happened in MAH. He is testing the waters in the 2024 LS elections whereas he may actually be looking at the next assembly elections which is due very soon, to consolidate. The BJP is out of contention in both these elections .... His first order of business will be to recoup the family treasury and salt away enough for the many forthcoming generations

he does not differ in any appreciable way from jagan, and both are equally venal and self serving and will make use of any means to climb the greasy pole of power. naidu made the almost fatal mistake of underestimating Modiji, whereas jagan did not.

One thinks that if the results in 2024 are as expected by Modiji, naidu may well be sidelined permanently. If you are foolhardy enough to strike at the king, then you had better not miss
I agree with your assessment. However, when Andhra has 25 seats (compared to 52 earlier) TDP can at best hope for a dozen and if BJP on its own
has 272+, he will not be a threat. He is also not a long term threat, unlike Jagan - who will be a threat (backed by BIF forces) if he gets 25 seats.
I think the BJPs strategy in all states where they are not the top 2 parties, is to have a strong challenger, so that the ruler does not have delusions
of being able to have his way at the centre (e.g. KCR in Telengana). Where it is the no 2 party, it's in the BJP's interest to undermine the no 3 (e.g. West Bengal or Odisha, or tie up with the no 3, as in Karnataka).

Deans ji,


In India, good behaviour by politicos is not a matter of breeding or upbringing, it usually means that some vital part of their anatomy is in the vice like grip of those who wish to enforce the desired "good behaviour".

It's called "pain compliance"

jagan has already been well conditioned to behave. The centre not only has the goods on him, but they may have also laid the supporting foundation on firm legal soil.

The BJP will sort out some of the thorns who are hell bent on troubling them because of unrequited ambition and their inherent sense of entitlement that drives them but that is an agenda for the post 2024 elections time frame.

something very big may have been averted by the sudden clampdown on khujliwal. Modiji is not given to arresting opponents on the eve of crucial national elections. It hurts both him and his image, nationally and internationally. His hand seems to have been forced by offshore snakes slithering around in India's electoral backyard.

the targeted strike on khujli may have been a timely warning of some very drastic actions waiting to be unleashed

or could it be that the BIF may have decided to stay their hand at this time, to wait and watch for a better opportunity, at a time and circumstance of their choosing or making ...

The dimwit's rapidly growing frustrations and the increasingly rash public utterances by the entitled puppet prince and his equally dim witted coterie seem to indicate that all may not be smooth sailing on the regime change front.
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AP to me seems like one of those states like TN, Punjab, and Kerala where both major parties are terrible in their own ways and BJP organization in the state is weak and prospects dim. And unlike say TN there is no Annamalai counterpart in AP who can offer hope for a better future for BJP. So allying with TDP there is basically BJP high command trying to make the best of a bad situation. Whether it actually works or not is a different matter.
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OmkarC wrote: 09 Apr 2024 11:38 One more post about Andhra and the utterly inexplicable behavior of BJP central leadership. Perhaps some sharp BRFites can confirm why this alliance has been forged w/ TDP, as I still do not get this, as it seemingly looks like self-destructive behavior. Some context+points:

- TDP is just a periyarist, caste-supremacist outfit masquerading as a political party. They have two main mouthpieces, both of them are extremely intolerant of BJP & Hindutva or even nationalism, champion left/communism.
- Despite forging the "alliance", they continue to either ignore or spew venom against Modiji, and are busy promoting Congress, Rahul Gandhi and his great manifesto.
- Not long ago, CBN sent some of his close confidantes to BJP. It has now become apparent that these people had heavily funded Congress in the recent Karnataka polls while staying in BJP. Yet, these people were rewarded by BJP central leadership w/ MP tickets. At the same time, many folks who were party loyalists have been sidelined and denied opportunities.
- BJP central leadership appoints CBN's relative as party prez. She has turned state BJP into a puppet of TDP. Rather than grow the party like it was done in Telangana/TN, she has surrendered the party to CBN, who is once again running the show.
- There is continuous mockery of BJP and esp Madhavi Latha is now a target on SM by TDP's supporters. Why do that ? They can't even support BJP when it faces MIM, so where is the "alliance" ?
- Not sure as to who will benefit from this alliance - TDP has decided who from BJP needs to participate in Andhra MP elections, and has ensured many upcoming leaders like Swami Paripoornananda are denied tickets and stalled the growth of the party for foreseeable future.

It appears that BJP leadership fell into a trap set for it by Congress-TDP combine to stall the growth of BJP in Andhra for foreseeable future, by playing to their obsession of "400 seats" and inviting them to an "alliance". But I could be entirely wrong and there could be some grand strategy at play that is not overtly evident.

OmkarC Saar,
A lot of people have opined about your post, chetak Saar, a_bharat, Deans and Nachiket Saar as well. I will try answering your points.
1. The BJP has almost always grown as a party in other states where it has tried to consolidate the rest of the groups that have not been in power as compared to some castes/groups in states. Khattar in Haryana was to get all non-Jat votes on a single plank along with a few Jat votes to get to power. Same thing in UP, all non Yadav-muslim votes with some jatav dalit votes going to mayawati and BJP trying to corner the rest. A vast majority of their CM's /state leaders have been from the non dominant or non power sharing castes.

2. The political equations in the erstwhile undivided AP was that the Reddy's ruled the roost which was upended with kammas when NTR and TDP seized power. This also might have played a role in the elevation of a person from the Raju group (Somu Veeraraju being made the state BJP chief). While he was a decent fellow by any normal political standards, the constant media barrages only made him look like a loud mouth and a buffoon that wanted to torpedo the BJP-TDP alliance post 2014. But if you actually look past the headlines all the points of corruption raised by him were a negative for the TDP during the 2019 elections (these were confirmed by the family of a friend from Vijayawada region who said TDP folks just gorged on sand and local roads deals that even hardcore TDP supporters found a little hard to support regarding corruption on ground).

3. the kaapus have also had a presence in AP region and are financially more powerful in AP than say in telangana. The BJP after 2019 election tried very hard to woo Pawan kalyan as a person with mass following (understandably as he is in the movies) and with BJP organisation skills to get work done to increase the reach of the party. they kept working with him silently in the background.

4. All of that changed sometime end of 2022 beginning of 2023 when Pawan Kalyan was denied entry into Vizag i believe where he was asked to not travel inside or outside a vehicle citing law and order issue and he sat on the bonnet of a car and went around addressing people and later went of profanity laced tirade against YS Jagan govt. There was a news cycle for almost a week showing a resurgent Janasena and that Pawan kalyan would fight the next elections seriously.

5. Then CBN came to meet Pawan and after a closed door meeting it was decided to work together to defeat YS jagan. all of that was limited to words and this is probably the beginning of the drifting between Janasena and the BJP who worked for 2-3 years together when the same TDP media often lampooning Pawan kalyan as somebody that doesn't have a steady policy on anything nor is he a serious politician.

6. It looks like BJP after removing Yeddurappa and loosing Lingayat votes in 2023 elections has focused on the south to get seats by promoting same dominant caste strategy to garner votes. (or any strategy to garner votes and this led to Purandeshwari being made the BJP chief for AP). She is the daughter of NTR and had a falling out with Naidu after he took over the party from NTR in the mid 90's.

7. The BJP wanted to fight it alone from earlier reports, but after CBN's arrest it looks like Pawan kalyan took the decision to align himself with the TDP and has later dragged the BJP into the same alliance as well.

8. the BJP by itself doesn't have any prospects in the state due to the media's negative campaign against the BJP for the past 10 years. an average voter doesn't know what BJP has done for the state in terms of railways, national highways, railway zone and other central schemes. The minister in ys jagan govt Roja goes in an interview and says that YS jagan should be re-elected as he gave free covid vaccines, there is no one to correct her either from the TDP or the TDP affiliated media that this is patently false. but it suits their agenda fine that BJP hasn't done anything for the state.

9. The BJP needs a newer media strategy or at the very least needs to have an affiliated media channel to tell their version of things. TDP and YSRCP have their own media channels that blatantly defend the party's position.

10. Swami Paripoornanda has worked for the past 2-3 years in Hindupuram consitituency only to be denied a ticket as TDP wasn't willing to give up that seat. He said in an interview that of all seats proposed by BJP (BJP wanted 6 MP seats and only Tirupati was given and the rest were changed). Purandeshwari had assured him that his name was sent as BJP candidate for Hindupuram MP constituency, but TDP rejected it saying there are 2-3 lakh muslim voters and we might loose them as saffron clad person would polarize the elections. The TDP pro media had the gall to initially say that TDP just okayed whatever lists the BJP sent and it was BJP that didn't send his name.

11. the reason for allying with pawan kalyan and his janasena party by TDP is not due to goodness in their hearts. in these past 5 years after TDP was numerically decimated in the elections (with TDP getting close to 40% vote and Jana Sena getting 5-6% and YSRCP getting 49-50% in 2019 elections translating to 23 seats for TDP, 1 seat for JSP and 151 to the YSRCP), there has been a ground change in some of the areas. The kaapus seem to come to a conclusion that why should only Kammas and Reddys enjoy power. We too should be enjoying it as we are no less dominant than them and it looks like from initial set of surveys the kaapu leaders have asked their community to support their candidate (as in kaapu cadidate) irrespective of the party he is representing. this is another dynamic at play in this election.
a_bharat wrote: 09 Apr 2024 13:20 Here's my two cents on the AP scenario:

For TDP, this time it is a net-negative to have an alliance with BJP. It will lose the small percentage of Muslim votes it now gets. Its cadre are also unhappy with the alliance. TDP needs alliance with Pawan Kalyan's Janasena that had some 5-6% vote share in the previous elections.

In the end, BJP is the only gainer in this alliance. Sure, there was opposition from TDP for BJP clowns like GVL Narasimha Rao, Somu Veerraju and Vishnuvardhan Reddy, as they are seen as coverts of YCP in BJP. I don't think there will be any transfer of votes from BJP to TDP. TDP to BJP vote transfer will happen from TDP voters who hate YCP more than the BJP. Others may just sit out. It remains to be seen how much vote transfer happens between TDP and Janasena. The main communities that support these two parties were against each other in the past.


It is this constant press by pro-tdp media that normal people are called clowns and jokers and coverts of YSRCP just because they raised procedural lapses and corruption in the TDP govt. Whenever TDP has aligned with the BJP, it has made a conscious decision to see that the votes it gains are more than the minority votes it looses. that is why they dropped BJP like a hot potato in 2004 and after saying that he would never align with BJP due to Modi and godra, he went back in 2014. if TDP could have won on its own they wouldn't have gone for an alliance. For 10 years the media has been projecting BJP as a devil (this even in 2014 when there was an alliance and this was with CBN's tacit blessings to target the BJP in the state and center), how can you now expect the average TDP supporter to turn up and vote BJP in an election. Should BJP loose any seats this same media will turn around and say that seats given to BJP were wasted. (you can write it down now)

I will just give some instances - in 2016 or 2017 when the alliance was still on Amit Shah was the BJP national president and was coming to Tirupati from Karnataka by road and it was at around 4 or 5 in the morning when stones were pelted on his vehicle. CBN said he was going to look into it and at the end didn't do anything saying after a week that people in AP are disappointed over the non-conferring of special status to the sate of AP, but how did a BJP president itinerary or road map get leaked that people were waiting to throw stones, none of it was asked by the media either.

ii. at the end of last year CBN was arrested by the Jagan govt alleging corruption. the TDP handles in youtube and in the media said that there was no case and CBN will come out in a week, when that disn't pan out the narrative changed to officers and judiciary bending to please jagan for favors and then it was invisible hands directing from Delhi to finish TDP and Modi using all institutions to finish TDP as CBN is the only one who can credibly take down Modi (this kind of guttersnipe comments are passed as analysis by a person just talking and is repeated on a loop till it become defacto truth for most people as there is no counter points). there is a saying that the wife couldn't do anything to her husband so she showed her anger/frustration on the child that is apt here.

iii. the most recent one regarding the alliance - Naidu Saab kept going to Delhi to meet BJP leaders over alliance while the pro-TDP media was busy saying that leader from Delhi are "begging for an alliance" with TDP but Naidu saab is resolutely thinking all options as his decisions are for the people of AP and not for himself or his party or some such balderbash.

It is this kind of divorce from reality that will prove fatal for the TDP party in the long run as all their thinking and attack strategies seem to have been outsourced to media house that are commie and congress pasand in their outlook for national issues.
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Very anecdotal, I was speaking to few AP colleagues and friends, and almost all of them were cursing YSR for bankrupting the govt and not having anything to show for it. Infrastructure is a mess, 3-capitals idea was a mess and lot of people lost money in that craziness. No money to repair roads or other infra and generally were fed up with YSR for not doing anything much and letting the state slide. No major industries/companies have come up and those that were in talks during CBN's time just withdrew.

Not sure if there is an underlying wave of apathy/opposition to YSR, but things don't look good for him this time based on anecdotal evidence.
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He is Rajkumar Anand the only Dalit Minister in Arvind Kejriwal's Cabinet.

Today, Rajkumar Anand has resigned from his post and has accused Aam Aadmi Party of doing Corruption.

AAP is collapsing like a pack of Cards.

The day is not far when people like Raghav Chadda and Sanjay Singh will also come out and expose Arvind Kejriwal and Aam Aadmi Party.



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Chetakji
Chadda Ka Cheddi abhi Ghela nahin howa hain!!
He feels he is safe in London where he is ensconsced since early March.
He maybe taking route of 'King of Good times' aka V Mallya and stay put in Londonistan for a while
Or until the results are out and all the dust has settle
Anyhow there is no parliamentary session and he doesnt need to attend any important meeting ( they have, meaning the Pappis have done all the meeting and Looting to aab kay bacha hain) :lol:
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jagan has already been well conditioned to behave. The centre not only has the goods on him, but they may have also laid the supporting foundation on firm legal soil.
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The BJP will sort out some of the thorns who are hell bent on troubling them because of unrequited ambition and their inherent sense of entitlement that drives them but that is an agenda for the post 2024 elections time frame.

something very big may have been averted by the sudden clampdown on khujliwal. Modiji is not given to arresting opponents on the eve of crucial national elections. It hurts both him and his image, nationally and internationally.

the targeted strike on khujli may have been a timely warning of some very drastic actions waiting to be unleashed
Chetak ji, are you saying that BJP uses the CBI,ED to selectively target the opposition parties ? I find it hard to believe. Can you please suggest some reading material on this subject ? Over one week ago Manorama newspaper in Kerala presented a major news item, saying that whenever the political parties who faces charges of corruption joins NDA the follow up action by investigating agencies go slow or become dead. I expected strong reply from atleast Kerala BJP Twitter handle or from the several pro BJP Twitter handles in Kerala. Nothing happened.

Prashant Kishore also made similar remarks recently. Now, if BJP indeed do that, isn't it very risky ? Some official may come forward in the public alleging that they are under pressure to put or dilute the corruption charges.
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https://twitter.com/Starboy2079/status/ ... 9990815152
How Deep State ecosystem works
Read this thread

On 8th and 9th April, University of Michigan organized a workshop on :
"Social media and society in India"

For this event they invited 20-30 people from India.

Who were those 20-30 people and why they were invited ?

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I encourage posters to bookmark these links for ongoing reference.

Opinion and exit polls:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_p ... l_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_p ... l_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_p ... l_election

Results:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_o ... l_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_o ... l_election

These links provide a complete chronology of the opinion polls, exit polls, and results, all broken down by state.

For the 2014 and 2019 election there are nice charts showing how the polls evolved over time leading up to the election. In both cases, the actual election results gave NDA 50-60 seats more than the opinion and exit poll averages.

For the 2024 election there may be one or two more opinion polls to come before Apr 19. The polls have been showing a steady consolidation of NDA over time, with all three major polls now predicting > 380 seats.
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https://www.firstpost.com/opinion/the-b ... 17542.html
The Biden administration has launched a full-spectrum disinformation war against India, its ‘global strategic partner’
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^^Just FYI, that article is a year old. I don't disagree with the opinions of the author, but a lot of pushback has occurred from Bharat since then.
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KL Dubey wrote: 10 Apr 2024 21:01
For the 2014 and 2019 election there are nice charts showing how the polls evolved over time leading up to the election. In both cases, the actual election results gave NDA 50-60 seats more than the opinion and exit poll averages.

For the 2024 election there may be one or two more opinion polls to come before Apr 19. The polls have been showing a steady consolidation of NDA over time, with all three major polls now predicting > 380 seats.
There is always a bias. In 2019 it was bias to be conservative and to adjust for the same, the poll would be dubbed down, that would account for 50-60 seats more than opinion polls
Similarly in 2024 there will be bias for continuation due to all news carry the same views. So this time around the actual number may be less than opinion poll.
Prediction/Extrapolation can't get away from the bias, as the analyst try to adjust.
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Re: Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

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Hriday wrote: 10 Apr 2024 19:55
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jagan has already been well conditioned to behave. The centre not only has the goods on him, but they may have also laid the supporting foundation on firm legal soil.
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The BJP will sort out some of the thorns who are hell bent on troubling them because of unrequited ambition and their inherent sense of entitlement that drives them but that is an agenda for the post 2024 elections time frame.

something very big may have been averted by the sudden clampdown on khujliwal. Modiji is not given to arresting opponents on the eve of crucial national elections. It hurts both him and his image, nationally and internationally.

the targeted strike on khujli may have been a timely warning of some very drastic actions waiting to be unleashed
Chetak ji, are you saying that BJP uses the CBI,ED to selectively target the opposition parties ? I find it hard to believe. Can you please suggest some reading material on this subject ? Over one week ago Manorama newspaper in Kerala presented a major news item, saying that whenever the political parties who faces charges of corruption joins NDA the follow up action by investigating agencies go slow or become dead. I expected strong reply from atleast Kerala BJP Twitter handle or from the several pro BJP Twitter handles in Kerala. Nothing happened.

Prashant Kishore also made similar remarks recently. Now, if BJP indeed do that, isn't it very risky ? Some official may come forward in the public alleging that they are under pressure to put or dilute the corruption charges.


Hriday ji,


The guys caught in the scams are being/will be investigated and even the courts do not/can not give them relief because of the proof and evidence produced by the agencies. “You do the crime, you do the time”

There is no smoke without fire

some BJP ministers in the states have gone down pretty hard because of corruption. They are, all the rest, scared crapless about the MAD triad, as they well should be, on such matters.

The cases against the people who join the BJP do not go away and no cases are closed except those investigated and closed with the knowledge of the courts. That may be one or two minor cases in a raft of about 25-30 charges already filed against these guys, if at all any are closed ...

cases against himanta biswa sarma are still open and pending

the BJPs opponents can only wish that there is indeed an industrial size washing machine that is being "used" to whitewash pending cases against the corrupt new people who join from other parties

what one meant by "targeted" strike against khujli was that he needed to be picked up as an exemplar, to show that this govt was more than willing to join battle, irrespective of how the optics would play out nationally or internationally.

no one has yet explained why a hafta seeking street goonda and a serial political history sheeter who abuses one and all with malicious abandon and apologised in the SC in multiple cases of defamation filed against him would excite such vocal and public sympathy from the amriki, german and the UN authorities.

What drove them to do it and what was their interest in this magsaysay adorned nefarious scum (come to think of it, it may well be because of the magsaysay award that they are forced to defend him, because the amriki fraud and rockeyfeld foundations are directly involved in funding this criminal and the amriki govt is duty bound to protect their reputations as they are parts of the deep state)

such a case has not been seen before in the annals of diplomatic practice that such concern is being shown to a petty potty mouth punk from a shady party that has broken all records in corruption under his unscrupulous leadership of "khattar imandari"


and I say again: There is no smoke without fire

AS was imprisoned by the congis and was in jail for over a hundred days. He was exonerated by the courts of all charges and is now taint free.

he did not say a single word about the "injustices" meted out to him.

whenever and no matter how many times Modiji was summoned by the CBI or whatever, he presented himself on time and on the day that he was summoned. He was the GUJ CM and no one ever heard him say a single word about vendetta

BTW, prashant kishore is very smartly getting himself hundreds/thousands of crores worth of national prime time TV exposure, free advertisement for himself, and vital brand recognition for the political party that he is going to launch in bihar and it is costing him nothing.

That is prashant kishore's game.

don't underestimate him but he overestimates himself because he has seriously pissed off a great many political leaders and some of them may be actually out to get him

jagan is "connected". His backers got through to the WH and got someone there to get an amriki satellite diverted to cover the possible location of his father's helo crash site to see it it could help locate the emergency distress signal of the crashed chopper

even the mamamia mafia could not tame the guy, but Modiji and Amitbhai did.

jagan has reached his sell by date.

Hriday ji, have you heard the saying: the early bird gets the worm ....

don't you think that the bird and the worm would have diametrically opposite points of view about that very same "meeting"

that's realpolitik for you ....
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Re: Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

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https://www.newsweek.com/2024/04/19/mod ... 88654.html
Modi's Moment: How Narendra Modi is Changing India and the World
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=okYfcDEbv ... e=youtu.be

Ladhak issue on how they are trying to stir up a new front
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Re: Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

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isubodh wrote: 10 Apr 2024 21:48
There is always a bias. In 2019 it was bias to be conservative and to adjust for the same, the poll would be dubbed down, that would account for 50-60 seats more than opinion polls
Similarly in 2024 there will be bias for continuation due to all news carry the same views. So this time around the actual number may be less than opinion poll.
Prediction/Extrapolation can't get away from the bias, as the analyst try to adjust.
I didn't mean to say NDA will get 450 seats this time. I was just stating the end results for the last two election.

I doubt that it was just "pollster bias", since not all pollsters have the same bias. As I have explained before, the vote share error margins are 3-5% in these polls. For the last two (and upcoming) LS elections that is still OK since most seats will be won by decent vote share margins. Despite that, a good number of seats are still in the error margins. Often in these cases, the party with the greater momentum prevails, which is why there is a 50-60 seat gap. This is also the reason to see the chronology of the polls, how they are changing with time...it shows who is gaining momentum as the elections draw nearer. Simply dismissing this as bias is not scientific.

For VS elections, these polls are nearly useless. They will still correctly predict easy victories, but cannot reliably predict closer contests. Many contests are won by very thin (<1%) margins, and the typical sampling size is low in relation to the size of the electorate.
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Re: Lok Sabha Elections 2024 - World's largest elections - Desh Ka Garv [World's envy]

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Chetakji
Why do I get a feeling that MAD and EAM are playing totally different game??
Am I right in assuming that the targets are :
Unkil and Lizard
Rest are just added extras
And to achieve that they need 400 par for various bills that might ultimately target the two
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